S06.E02: Those Things Hidden In Plain Sight

[WendyCR72]

Sorry, gang! My only excuse for no thread is time has lost all meaning.  😛

Airing on November 18, 2020:

Goodwin announces a new ED Chief, and the choice doesn't make everyone happy. Dr. Manning takes a stand for her patient and finds herself dealing with the repercussions. Dr. Charles tends to family affairs.

Snark away!

[Guildford]

Oh Will, your petty little foot stamping whine about not getting the job is one of the hundreds of reasons you didn't get the job.

Added to not following DNR's, getting mixed up with the mob, running illegal drug injecting rooms, ignoring patient wishes, punching other doctors, hauling your girlfriend in because she just OD....jeez man buy a mirror and take a good hard look at yourself. You are a trainwreck.

 

[preeya]

So it now looks as if APRIL is now the de facto head of the ER. ChiMed is a total joke!

[Crashcourse]

4 minutes ago, preeya said:

So it now looks as if APRIL is now the de facto head of the ER. ChiMed is a total joke!

Yes, April is running things now.  She's got Choi's nuts in her purse. 

This show is a total joke. 

[SuzieQ]

I find Will an interesting character but there's no way in hell he should be chief of anything!!  He's unstable, a hothead and not a team player in the least.  Why would he even be considered?  Oh yeah.......................................he wasn't!😂

[Sake614]

April (and then Choi) were both insufferable last night. April DEMANDING a doctor either bow to her wishes or find another doctor who will? And then going to Choi and saying ‘get rid of him’ only to have him do just that?? Then to top it off, she insists that the girl’s mother be allowed into a COVID wing to be with her dying daughter. I get it, no one should have to die alone, but hundreds of thousands of people did and are still doing just that. Why didn’t she insist the wife from last week be allowed to sit with her dying husband? Why was that any different? 
 

then we have Will being all butt hurt because he didn’t get the chief job. I was so happy when Sharon told him he wasn’t even under consideration for the job lol!  And Natalie pushing a CO because he insisted on following protocol snd cuffing a presumed violent prisoner. Perhaps she isn’t violent. Perhaps she is. But he only knows what he’s told and is simply doing his job. And yeah, Natalie probably did get off easy because she’s a white woman. But I really wish she hadn’t because it sets a bad precedent. She SHOVED a police officer who was trying to do his job, then blocked him from getting to the patient/prisoner. Okay he outweighed her by a good 70 lbs snd could easily have just lifted her up and moved her. But that’s not the point. And I’m tired of everything being acceptable because it’s Natalie.

daniel, your ex has an ulcer. So maybe you don’t want to aggravate her right now? Geez, he’s a damn doctor. You think he’d know better!

Gah! This show just gets worse every damn week. 🤬

[spunky]

So Natalie assaults an officer and nothing happens,  her patient who did the same thing now has to go back to prison and won't be able to see her child. I  wonder why?

Choi was already insufferable before he became cheif of the ED, he's going to be even worse now. Will is right micromanaging is never an effective form of management.  Did April get promoted to assistant chief of the ED? She sure as hell is acting like it. 

Will whining about not being promoted is reason number 2,853 why he wasn't considered.  Dr. Marcel who was actually assaulted by Dr. Choi, should be the one whining. 

I much rather see the growing bromance between Dr. Marcel and Dr. Charles, than the forced Mancel romance they're trying to feed us. Based on the last scene I'm suspecting that Crockett may try to harm himself at some point in the season. 

[Quark]

Natalie and April are completely nuts.

[Crashcourse]

3 hours ago, spunky said:

Based on the last scene I'm suspecting that Crockett may try to harm himself at some point in the season. 

I didn't watch much of last season, mainly because I got sick of April and Natalie and Will, so I missed the story about Crockett.  What's his problem?

[greyhorse]

Did I miss in the premier when Lanik announced he was leaving?  Doesn't help that I hardly could recognize him with the surgical cap on, but I had no idea that he was leaving.  So it was a surprise when all of a sudden Maggie was getting Will's hopes up that he would be named the new chief.

Obviously Goodwin and Choi had to have met prior to the announcement, so not sure why Will was all "Oh...you two talked LAST week about being named chief?"  It's not as if Choi was supposed to tell Will last week that he was going to be chief, right?

That said though, I feel for Will.  He's a smart doc.  But yes, he's got issues and some people aren't meant to lead.  But I don't understand why Goodwin has to twist the dagger all around by telling Will that she never even once considered him for the job.  Why?  What's the point of that?  Let him down easy.  No need to make him feel even worse.

Did we see Goodwin in person in episode 1?  In this episode, all we see of her is on Zoom/Webex calls.  I wonder if the actress herself is high risk and that's how they're keeping her on the show this season during filming?

Not really caring about Daniel's other ex-wife and the daughter we didn't know about I think until maybe last year?  I liked the one that went a little nuts that was involved with Connor, I forget exactly what the diagnosis was but I seem to recall it was some kind of metal poisoning?

What's the point of showing Crockett shirtless staring at the ceiling in bed while April and Choi were commiserating on the roof?  Is the show implying he's thinking of her?

[statsgirl]

There are 2,874 reasons why Will shouldn't be chief.

There are 2,875 why Choi shouldn't  -- the additional one being April.

[Avabelle]

1 hour ago, greyhorse said:

That said though, I feel for Will.  He's a smart doc.  But yes, he's got issues and some people aren't meant to lead.  But I don't understand why Goodwin has to twist the dagger all around by telling Will that she never even once considered him for the job.  Why?  What's the point of that?  Let him down easy.  No need to make him feel even worse.

Will is awful for all the reasons already stated but Natalie and Choi are just as moronic and incompetent. I feel for him. Although he never faces any real lasting consequences for his actions he’s still called out a lot more then the other two morons. Natalie is constantly rewarded for her moronic, irresponsible and insane actions. 

[spunky]

3 hours ago, Crashcourse said:

I didn't watch much of last season, mainly because I got sick of April and Natalie and Will, so I missed the story about Crockett.  What's his problem?

His 1 year old daughter died of leukemia 7 years ago. The only person who knows about it is Natalie and that's because she was meddling in his business. 

Edited November 20, 2020 by spunky

[Crashcourse]

28 minutes ago, spunky said:

His 1 year old daughter died of leukemia 7 years ago. The only person who knows about it is Natalie and that's because she was meddling in his business. 

Ok, thanks!  Poor guy.

That's just like Natalie.

[spunky]

34 minutes ago, Crashcourse said:

Ok, thanks!  Poor guy.

That's just like Natalie.

I agree poor guy.  Natalie is such a busy body. 

[mommalib]

I can't think of too many characters on tv I have ever disliked more than Natalie. She was white privilege personified in the episode. At least I got to see Natalie crazy ass in handcuffs.

April is insufferable as always and I guess Ethan is gonna be her little bitch.

Will is so lacking in self awareness that it never crossed his mind the multiple possible reasons he didn't get that job. 

Edited November 20, 2020 by mommalib

[LittleIggy]

The point of showing Crockett shirtless is fan-service. At least it is for me! High point of the episode! 😏 That and a Dr. Abrams appearance.

[CanuckFan]

Why aren't they wearing masks all the time? Even when they are not with COVID patients, they should be wearing masks.

[sweetandsour]

I never watch parts of Chicago Med twice before I delete episodes from my dvr, provided I understood and saw/heard correctly what happened.  However, I definitely watched that Zoom call between Goodwin and Halstead twice because it was hilarious!  So often these doctors (and nurses) are doing appalling things and acting in appalling fashion, but half the time, it miraculously works in their favor and further incentivizes their shitty behavior, and the other half, they vaguely get in trouble, but not in a way that ever really lasts.

So I really did find it, on this show, to be a breath of fresh air that there were consequences.

I don't blame Goodwin for eventually telling Halstead she never considered him.  I think he needed to hear that (even if he disagreed) and she needed to set him straight.  He approached her guns blazing in his questions, like he had the chief job taken or stolen from him and like she, in a superior role, was supposed to justify herself to him.  There were two moments in the conversation where she was being easy on him or otherwise "gracious" - when he asked her why they picked Choi and she said "when we went through our list of names ..." without saying anything that prompted him to think he wasn't on the list.  And then when he said he wished he had been considered more seriously, she definitely had a look on her face, but she did not tell him at that moment, "no, we didn't consider you at all - let alone more seriously."  It was only when he outright said "the job should have been mine to lose, so why?" and kept pushing the idea that his tenure was so important that I think she knew he's still going to be so lacking in self-awareness, breeding a lot of hostile resentment thinking he was cheated.  She tried to be diplomatic and he shot it all down, so she dropped the anvils on him since he was arguing with anything else.

He and his ego are lucky that Goodwin didn't go through his personnel file with him as further demonstration because he's done a looooooooot of inappropriate things throughout his oh-so-important tenure.  He conveniently forgets, but his wins don't erase his repeated lack of professionalism that isn't even documented every time it rears its ugly head.

The only thing I would have agreed with Halstead on, if he'd said it, was, "Choi's done a lot of unprofessional things, too, and he's consistently repeating his mistakes, with little to no maturity growth.  That's how everyone here is."  Which is why they shouldn't have hired a chief from existing internal ED candidates, mwahahaha.

Otherwise, a very typical Chicago Med episode, all the way down to Nurse Doris existing only to stir up the pot in the peanut gallery and then slink away.

When is Ian Harding going to come back and take Natalie as an indefinite hostage down in a well somewhere?

Edited November 21, 2020 by sweetandsour
lol, dvr, not dvd

[amarante]

On 11/20/2020 at 10:53 AM, CanuckFan said:

Why aren't they wearing masks all the time? Even when they are not with COVID patients, they should be wearing masks.

I am having a hard time dealing with the utter incoherent use of masks. It is not just this show but all of the shows which are set during "real time" pandemic life.

The characters will wear masks but then take them off when they are in the same room with people having a conversation. WTF - that is the opposite of recommended advice.

I realize that it is because they want to have the actors' faces fully visible but it seems to be counter-productive in terms of modeling behavior.

Of course most of these shows are fairly boring so I amuse myself by attempting to figure out how production is handling social distancing. At first there were going to be issues in terms of actors getting "physical" but there doesn't seem to be any fewer scenes like that. 

On an episode of The Good Doctor Richard Schiff was shown quarantine at home with his wife - who is really his actual wife so I assumed that the actors were going to isolate themselves for the duration as part of the plot point. But he was back at the hospital interacting in the next episode and then announced he had COVID. 

[WinJet0819]

April was, again, as annoying as ever. Telling a resident doctor what to do, and then calling Ethan a hard-ass for following the strict COVID guidelines. There are plenty of people that want to physically be there with their loved ones, and it's just not possible, right now. It's just the cold hard truth. April needs to step back and respect the rules.

Natalie actually pushed a corrections officer, but, alas, another slap on the wrist. No arrest, no reprimand, no suspension, and no termination. Her file has to have a number of these incidents where she's faced ZERO discipline.

And yes, Will has a borderline record. He's gone against DNRs, and made reckless decisions. But it could also be argued that if they're going to use his decision to be in a relationship with a recovering addict, that could be considered discrimination. Who he falls in love with should have no bearing on how capable he is as a doctor and running an ER. And Ethan's not any better. He physically assaulted another doctor twice because of relationship drama that he brought to work. That should never happen, and that should be a big red flag when considering him for a promotion. And of course, Sharon didn't discipline him. Just gave him a soft warning. He constantly brought his relationship drama to work, as he's allowed his feelings for April cloud his judgement in the workplace. In this last episode, he let April talk him into sending the resident outside of the COVID ward, when it was she who was out of line. He's also too judgmental of patients and/or family and has been wrong most of the time. His military experience is nice, but it's not everything. If he can get away with physically assaulting another doctor, and have his name considered, Will should have been considered, as well.

On 11/19/2020 at 5:08 PM, Avabelle said:

Will is awful for all the reasons already stated but Natalie and Choi are just as moronic and incompetent. I feel for him. Although he never faces any real lasting consequences for his actions he’s still called out a lot more then the other two morons. Natalie is constantly rewarded for her moronic, irresponsible and insane actions. 

Choi physically assaulted Crockett, twice, including throwing a punch. He should not even be considered for a promotion just because of those incidents. In the real world, that gets you fired as no hospital would tolerate that.

[jabRI]

What was on Crockett's bedside table that raised the red flag? Or just the fact that he was wide awake at 3am?

[dsteele]

It's been bugging me that April's face seemed unnaturally bright when she is wearing that hood and hazmat suit. Didn't seem like others wearing one were quite as visible. So this episode I paid more attention to the shots when she had the hood on and... bingo! If you look closely when the camera catches her from a lower angle you can see a row of LED lights inside the hood just above the clear part of the visor. Somehow I doubt that is standard issue for a hazmat suit.

And all this time I thought it was just because she has such a glowing personality. 😂

[greyhorse]

13 hours ago, amarante said:

I am having a hard time dealing with the utter incoherent use of masks. It is not just this show but all of the shows which are set during "real time" pandemic life.

The characters will wear masks but then take them off when they are in the same room with people having a conversation. WTF - that is the opposite of recommended advice.

I realize that it is because they want to have the actors' faces fully visible but it seems to be counter-productive in terms of modeling behavior.

Of course most of these shows are fairly boring so I amuse myself by attempting to figure out how production is handling social distancing. At first there were going to be issues in terms of actors getting "physical" but there doesn't seem to be any fewer scenes like that. 

On an episode of The Good Doctor Richard Schiff was shown quarantine at home with his wife - who is really his actual wife so I assumed that the actors were going to isolate themselves for the duration as part of the plot point. But he was back at the hospital interacting in the next episode and then announced he had COVID. 

Yeah, I mentioned it last episode too.  But at this point, it is what it is.  I don't think people watch tv looking to actors as examples and role models of proper mask wearing etiquette.  Everybody already KNOWS what to do.  It's whether or not people sitting at home CHOOSE to do the right thing.

8 hours ago, WinJet0819 said:

April was, again, as annoying as ever. Telling a resident doctor what to do, and then calling Ethan a hard-ass for following the strict COVID guidelines. There are plenty of people that want to physically be there with their loved ones, and it's just not possible, right now. It's just the cold hard truth. April needs to step back and respect the rules.

Natalie actually pushed a corrections officer, but, alas, another slap on the wrist. No arrest, no reprimand, no suspension, and no termination. Her file has to have a number of these incidents where she's faced ZERO discipline.

And yes, Will has a borderline record. He's gone against DNRs, and made reckless decisions. But it could also be argued that if they're going to use his decision to be in a relationship with a recovering addict, that could be considered discrimination. Who he falls in love with should have no bearing on how capable he is as a doctor and running an ER. And Ethan's not any better. He physically assaulted another doctor twice because of relationship drama that he brought to work. That should never happen, and that should be a big red flag when considering him for a promotion. And of course, Sharon didn't discipline him. Just gave him a soft warning. He constantly brought his relationship drama to work, as he's allowed his feelings for April cloud his judgement in the workplace. In this last episode, he let April talk him into sending the resident outside of the COVID ward, when it was she who was out of line. He's also too judgmental of patients and/or family and has been wrong most of the time. His military experience is nice, but it's not everything. If he can get away with physically assaulting another doctor, and have his name considered, Will should have been considered, as well.

Choi physically assaulted Crockett, twice, including throwing a punch. He should not even be considered for a promotion just because of those incidents. In the real world, that gets you fired as no hospital would tolerate that.

I don't fault April.  She has more experience than this young doctor.  Too often I think these new medical school graduates think that because they have an MD behind their name, that they know it all.  The nurses around them have more experience them and they should be able to take some suggestions without being offended.

One thing I've been wondering.  Will said that he had the most experience out of anyone there in the ER.  This is season 6?  (Hard to believe).  These docs were all residents when the show started.  Will was the first to graduate because I remember he was considering leaving but of course decided to take an attending job otherwise he'd be off the show.  When was that?  Couldn't have been any earlier than season 3 I'm guessing.  So he's been an attending for maybe 3 years max?  I don't recall the show making a big deal of Choi graduating and presumably Natalie is no longer a resident either?  I guess we just assumed that they all became attendings without needing to say so.  So Choi has been an attending for maybe 2 years?  And now he's CHIEF?  Ridiculous.

[amarante]

4 hours ago, greyhorse said:

Yeah, I mentioned it last episode too.  But at this point, it is what it is.  I don't think people watch tv looking to actors as examples and role models of proper mask wearing etiquette.  Everybody already KNOWS what to do.  It's whether or not people sitting at home CHOOSE to do the right thing.

 

I would hope no one is looking for role models on these shows.

However I just find the lack of consistency to be confusing since I am not sure what is attempting to be done. What is the point of wearing a mask only to whip it off as soon as one is close to another person? 

I realize I am over-thinking it but it would seem to make more sense to ignore the pandemic completely rather than to have masks worn in an illogical manner. The reruns are going to be unwatchable - at least in my opinion. At least The Good Doctor handled it legitimately by doing two shows IN during the pandemic and then setting the rest of the season in a mythical time when the pandemic is no longer besieging the country and so is an inconvenience which needs to be handled stupidly - with inconsistent safety measures.

Edited November 22, 2020 by amarante

[greyhorse]

1 hour ago, amarante said:

I would hope no one is looking for role models on these shows.

However I just find the lack of consistency to be confusing since I am not sure what is attempting to be done. What is the point of wearing a mask only to whip it off as soon as one is close to another person? 

I realize I am over-thinking it but it would seem to make more sense to ignore the pandemic completely rather than to have masks worn in an illogical manner. The reruns are going to be unwatchable - at least in my opinion. At least The Good Doctor handled it legitimately by doing two shows IN during the pandemic and then setting the rest of the season in a mythical time when the pandemic is no longer besieging the country and so is an inconvenience which needs to be handled stupidly - with inconsistent safety measures.

Agree.  I think the show wants us to believe that because the doctors get the forehead temperature check and then walk through the weird green decontamination room (maybe that's UV light?) which I don't know of any hospitals that do such a thing, that the doctors within the back part of the ER are all safe and virus free.  But yes, it's silly.  Paramedics bringing in somebody from the field have masks on, while the doctors do not.  We just need to suspend reality a bit and just let them handle it however they want.

(I think I heard that SVU filmed an entire show where the actors wore masks all the time?  Is that true?  I've also noticed that Fire and PD don't really mention the pandemic at all, but I guess it's because they're not a medical show.)

So are we to believe that the daughter dies without knowing that the mother got sick with Covid too?  How sad.

[dmfordo]

I thought Crockett was shown being wide-awake at 3:00 AM because when Dr. Charles asked how he slept, Crockett said he slept like a baby.  This was when Dr. Charles either cornered him in the hall or when they had their "session."

[Emma9]

 

On 11/20/2020 at 7:16 PM, sweetandsour said:

I don't blame Goodwin for eventually telling Halstead she never considered him.  [...]  She tried to be diplomatic and he shot it all down, so she dropped the anvils on him since he was arguing with anything else.

Agreed, it's like someone pushing for explanations and 'closure' during a breakup and then acting shocked when they hear unflattering things. Don't ask questions you don't want the answers to.

 

10 hours ago, greyhorse said:

I don't think people watch tv looking to actors as examples and role models of proper mask wearing etiquette.  Everybody already KNOWS what to do.  It's whether or not people sitting at home CHOOSE to do the right thing.

I do think pop-culture portrayals might be a factor in how seriously some take the necessity of it. Although I don't know what percentage they comprise, there are definitely people who are 'path of least resistance' about it; they don't attend rallies or give clerks a hard time about wearing masks into stores, but still feel like it isn't that big a deal and don't go out of their way to wear them when it isn't mandated - particularly in circumstances just as shown here, like between friends/coworkers or taking off the mask to speak. So it would seem to be lending weight to that mindset.

Edited November 23, 2020 by Emma9

[tinkerbell]

I dont understand,  are staff at a hospital required to see the psychiatrist on staff? That sounds like a terrible violation. Therapists are not supposed to have dual relationships. Your colleagues are not supposed to be patients.

And speaking of Charles,  how does his ex get to decide to take their daughter to another state without his consent?  And how does the ex wife's doctor talk about her medical condition to her ex-husband? HIPAA regulations still apply, even when someone works at the hospital. 

Edited November 23, 2020 by tinkerbell

[Ailianna]

6 hours ago, tinkerbell said:

And speaking of Charles,  how does his ex get to decide to take their daughter to another state without his consent?  

Addressing only this point, if it isn't in the custody agreement that she has to talk to him and get his permission, then she can do what she likes.  She doesn't even have to make accomodation for visitation, if it isn't in the agreement.  This sort of thing actually happens a lot in some relationships where the parents don't both agree to co-parent, and one parent moves away, then the other parent can't visit/have the child over as often, and then the first parent can even claim the non-moving parent is "abandoning" the child.  The end of the relationship sucks, but some people will definitely use their children as weapons.  Other people think that their right to "move on" overcomes the rights of the child and non-custodial parent to have a close relationship.

[jabRI]

As for the ex, she may have given Crockett permission so her daughter was kept informed, we don't know.  Also, she was only looking into moving to Phoenix, it's not a done deal.

[amarante]

In terms of the confusing portrayal of masks p, this article sums up my confusion regarding the inconsistencies. I think that is what I find most distracting. 
 

https://www.vulture.com/article/network-tv-masks-covid-stories.html?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Vulture - November 24%2C 2020&utm_term=Subscription List - Vulture (1 Year)

[SnarkySheep]

On 11/19/2020 at 11:23 AM, SuzieQ said:

I find Will an interesting character but there's no way in hell he should be chief of anything!!  He's unstable, a hothead and not a team player in the least.  Why would he even be considered?  Oh yeah.......................................he wasn't!😂

Sure, IRL that would be true. But at Med, literally ALL his colleagues have also done super questionable things, yet retain their employment.

Remember Maggie forging Natalie's signature so she could take her dying (and contagious) boyfriend home?

And apparently Sharon forgot that golden boy Choi just this past spring attacked Marcel over the kiss with April? IMO that alone would have Choi disqualified. 

On 11/23/2020 at 1:17 AM, tinkerbell said:

I dont understand,  are staff at a hospital required to see the psychiatrist on staff? That sounds like a terrible violation. Therapists are not supposed to have dual relationships. Your colleagues are not supposed to be patients.

I don't know, but yeah, that would be weird. Despite his official job capacity, I can't imagine anyone at Med wanting to spill their guts out to Charles, then pass him every day in the hallway knowing that he knows everything about you.

When I was a teen, I attended a Catholic high school. We had confession regularly, but as we got older, the school would bring in "priest strangers" as naturally nobody wanted to tell all their secrets to Father Sees You Every Day.

[SnarkySheep]

On 11/22/2020 at 3:14 AM, WinJet0819 said:

Natalie actually pushed a corrections officer, but, alas, another slap on the wrist. No arrest, no reprimand, no suspension, and no termination. Her file has to have a number of these incidents where she's faced ZERO discipline.

I get that this whole storyline was an effort to showcase the ways that racism can affect people's everyday lives and all that. BUT, I think this was a really poor example. No way that the officer would have dismissed charges against Natalie simply because she's white. But even if the officer did for whatever crazy reason, the HOSPITAL wouldn't just it go without some kind of official punishment, if not outright dismissal.

Come on, seriously.  Imagine ANY workplace where an employee physically attacked another employee simply because they didn't like the official rules that the employee had to carry out. Even that bit with Natalie talking to the other female doctor afterward, with the doctor jokingly calling her "Wonder Woman" like it was just a hilarious little incident was ridiculous.

[tinkerbell]

On 11/24/2020 at 3:51 PM, amarante said:

In terms of the confusing portrayal of masks p, this article sums up my confusion regarding the inconsistencies. I think that is what I find most distracting. 
 

https://www.vulture.com/article/network-tv-masks-covid-stories.html?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Vulture - November 24%2C 2020&utm_term=Subscription List - Vulture (1 Year)

THat article perfectly sums up what I've been feeling about face mask portrayals on TV shows.  I DVR shows to watch later, and, while it's really depressing, and not entertaining, to watch shows about the pandemic that we are currently dealing with, I also find myself irritated by tv characters who take off their masks to talk to people. 

[RedbirdNelly]

I know not to expect reality from this show but

* Will thinking he had a shot a chief despite nearly getting fired not that long ago, was bizarre to me

* Will expecting to be named as chief as just some surprise announcement with no advance heads up was bizarre to me. Goodwin isn't going to name you and you hear it for the first time along with everyone else. Of course she talks to the person in advance of the announcement at a minimum to confirm they want the job. It's not a prize the surprise you with. 

[limecoke]

Love the scene of April on the roof looking out over the city, contemplating her superiority over everyone and everything.  Yet somehow she can’t yet singlehandedly conquer COVID. Just give her time. She just needs some time.

[DebbieM4]

On 12/7/2020 at 12:44 PM, RedbirdNelly said:

 

* Will expecting to be named as chief as just some surprise announcement with no advance heads up was bizarre to me. Goodwin isn't going to name you and you hear it for the first time along with everyone else. Of course she talks to the person in advance of the announcement at a minimum to confirm they want the job. It's not a prize the surprise you with. 

That was exactly my reaction.  This wasn't, "Let's all gather round and hear who won the Christmas raffle!"  This was about a serious, highly responsible position.  Certainly there would have been one-on-one conversation(s) about it, not only to make the offer and discuss specifics, but also to see if the chosen candidate even wanted it.   Not all doctors - even very good ones - would.  I know an ED doctor who turned down the same opportunity.  It's an extremely personal and weighty decision.   And even in positions that don't deal so closely with life & death, candidates are more involved in the process than simply showing up for an announcement.

I have to suspend disbelief a lot with this show, but this was really glaring.  It just made Will look ignorant and naive.

[WinJet0819]

On 12/7/2020 at 11:44 AM, RedbirdNelly said:

I know not to expect reality from this show but

* Will thinking he had a shot a chief despite nearly getting fired not that long ago, was bizarre to me

* Will expecting to be named as chief as just some surprise announcement with no advance heads up was bizarre to me. Goodwin isn't going to name you and you hear it for the first time along with everyone else. Of course she talks to the person in advance of the announcement at a minimum to confirm they want the job. It's not a prize the surprise you with. 

 

On 12/13/2020 at 10:05 PM, DebbieM4 said:

That was exactly my reaction.  This wasn't, "Let's all gather round and hear who won the Christmas raffle!"  This was about a serious, highly responsible position.  Certainly there would have been one-on-one conversation(s) about it, not only to make the offer and discuss specifics, but also to see if the chosen candidate even wanted it.   Not all doctors - even very good ones - would.  I know an ED doctor who turned down the same opportunity.  It's an extremely personal and weighty decision.   And even in positions that don't deal so closely with life & death, candidates are more involved in the process than simply showing up for an announcement.

I have to suspend disbelief a lot with this show, but this was really glaring.  It just made Will look ignorant and naive.

 

Will expecting to be named chief was stretching the bounds of reality. But Sharon making it seem like Choi was the top choice also suspends belief, and doesn't make her look too good. He physically assaulted another doctor over personal drama that he dragged to work. At best, that's a demotion and a suspension and you're out of the running for any promotions for a year or two. And that was less than a year ago, and Sharon seems to have forgotten about that. There's also the fact that he's constantly jumped to conclusions about patients, and been proven wrong so many times. Not to mention the fact that his judgement always becomes clouded when it comes to April. He wants to be by the book with everyone else, but when it's April, he'll let her slide. That's a guy you want in a leadership position? I would think not. The show would have been better off bringing on a new character as opposed to going with this storyline with Will and Choi.