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  1. For someone who casually watches the show (out of the 40 or so shows I have queued to record on my DVR, I would rank it in the bottom 10) and has posted a few times in the episode threads - this showrunner change is fascinating schaudenfreude. I never paid attention to the show on SM (outside of this forum) and I certainly never knew any gossip or read CAM's twitter of IG. But wowwwwwww has she made a huge mess of things. I was only aware of her IRL in terms of her aspirational, seemingly quite thirsty elbow-rubbing with stars and being part of their friend groups. I just don't get that whole Amell-Tyler-CAM-Jarrett circle jerk at all. Anyway, I think it's shocking that CAM still has those ITV posts up on her twitter. Even after the damage control that had to be done on her behalf, she didn't take them down. Even if she was told to take them down, she didn't. I don't know how she reacted when she got a "talking-to" from network execs (and I have to imagine they demanded she apologize to ITV personally), but she's left the tweets up. WOW. I wouldn't be at all surprised if she was just as bullheaded when the execs talked to her - probably doubling down on her "pursuit of justice" and that just pounded the nail into her coffin. She didn't just make an impulsive mistake that showed she didn't have the base judgment, knowledge, and maturity necessary to be a showrunner from a business perspective. She probably showed a level of "uncoachability" and hubris that made them think, "there's absolutely no future for us with someone who doesn't listen to the boss." The earlier HR situations, any knowledge about poor creative decisions - the bosses brushed that off - but when they got it directly from her, they were like, in no uncertain terms, "goodbye." I really don't expect to see her working on any live projects for at least a couple of years, if not longer. I think she'll talk about these great ideas she's developing, but they're not backed by anyone to become a reality. She can do her own damage control on her SM to her "fanbase," but that changes nothing about what the industry people think of her. Even though she's done some work on a Berlanti show and he's got a lot of juice and a huge umbrella of projects, I think he would know it's unwise to hire her, even on shows that have nothing to do with Warner Bros. Too many people on his shows have been publicly exposed, so it doesn't behoove him to hire, even as a supporting producer or a rank-and-file writer, someone he's not sure won't make his productions look bad and prompt more questions about hiring and ongoing HR practices. If she and Plec work together again, there's really nothing that could make me watch it. Even if my most favorite actors were in it and the plot was my dream plot.
  2. Probably something super realistic, like a batch of faulty condoms made by the local condom factory and sold throughout the town. It happened on "General Hospital," so it could happen anywhere!!!
  3. Agree with everyone else about the weird pacing of the finale. One of my biggest problems with this show is the constant feeling that the characters are just chess pieces being moved around to serve whatever plotlines are chosen. It injects a level of inauthenticity I can't ignore. Of course, this happens on other shows, too - like the cliche of secrets being kept between people because of [make up some stupid reason for them not to talk about it for five episodes] - but it's so pervasive on Roswell. To the point where I wonder, "did I miss some scenes that bridged from previous events to here?" but the answer is no. All sides of the love triangle continue to confound me. More chess pieces being moved around willy nilly. It doesn't build suspense or anticipation for the future, because I can't imagine future events won't be just as inauthentic. How does anything feel earned this way. Alex's song was fine, but I just shrugged when he went to the not-Rider-Strong dude afterwards. Liz has no professional ethics. Even discounting alien rights as not existing on earth, and even if most/all of her research was based on Noah the dead villain vs. her alive alien bf, there was nothing ethical about giving Steph, a human, medical treatment that had no real testing/trials and was not consented to by her. I suppose it's possible that, even though Steph talked to Kyle like she just woke up feeling way better, Liz talked to Steph about an experimental treatment and Steph said, "let's go for it, I know you're not a doctor here, but what do I have to lose?" But what are the odds that Liz properly represented the lack of testing and nature of the treatment. Zero. A big issue I have with the narrative idea that aliens don't have rights, while this could be technically true, is that it clashes so hard (for me) with the ideas the show espouses about illegal aliens and how they are treated. Liz is also being willfully obtuse about Diego. And I feel like if she later finds out he screwed her over, she would be shocked and outraged like she wasn't already warned about him. I agree Max has a lot of his own issues in decisions he makes and things he does, but he's been one of the weakest parts of the show to me so that bothers me less. I get that this show is probably budgeted to only allow some of the regulars to appear in, say, 10 out of 13 episodes, but they really need to serve the corresponding characters of Kyle and Maria a lot better.
  4. Helena is so mad at Jesse Manes and probably also so tired of hearing what "a Manes man" would or would not do that she's like, "fuck you all, I'll show you what 'a Manes man' would do, and that's die violently, bleeding out of every orifice." I'm not sure what it's supposed to mean that Helena said that same quote as the Maneses about if disaster never strikes, justice will never be served. Nothing? Or something? But I don't remember the nuances of both versions of the quote and which Manes man said which one (so maybe I do need constant reminders of what a Manes man would do ...). That was, like, three episodes ago when they discovered the paper Tripp hid behind the diner bricks, so that's long disappeared from my brain. When Isobel was recovering from going into Mimi's mind at the bar, she was openly knocking back a bottle of nail polish remover. In front of a room full of patrons. ??? Sure, those patrons are also drinking and possibly inebriated, but why on earth would she do that in plain sight? Liz is the worst. She and Charlie Cameron continue the grand and disappointing tradition of brilliant CW women developing something for ostensibly good purposes, but failing to give due consideration to, or even recognize on a basic level, how that could be so easily used for nefarious purposes. (In addition to Felicity and whatever she was doing with Alena a couple seasons ago on Arrow (I honestly cannot remember what that computer program was), Lena and Project Non Nocere on Supergirl.) For me, it really takes the wind of the sails of their brilliance because it's so dumb how naive and tunnel-visioned they are about it. Diego, if you're not going to eat that free churro since you're too busy being a total creeper, at least give it to me.
  5. Sad to see Gregory go, especially since it was on a down note for him. I hope he fully recovered quickly. What a bummer. I love Melissa, and I hope the final two are Melissa and Bryan. I'd love for Bryan to get the win in his third finals, but I won't be too sad if Melissa wins, either. That said, I am so here for Bryan and everything Dad about him. I love all of the dad jokes and his laugh, where his eyes seem to always flick to the side or somewhere else. We all know that the phonetic representation of laughing is "hahahaha," but Bryan laughs like an android who wasn't programmed how to laugh, so he taught himself how to based on what he read on a piece of paper. And I could not be more here for it!!! I also love his even temperament and congeniality towards his competitors. Of course he helped Stephanie (I believe it was her voice thanking him) by carrying something large/heavy for her at the staging for elimination.
  6. Dean is such a giant piece of worthless shit, I just can't with him. I know he's just dug himself a deeper and deeper hole as he's gone along that he no longer has any idea of what's right or wrong, but I hate him. The way he looks at and treats Murphy like she's the one who killed his best friend disgusts me. I need him to get his comeuppance by the end of this season. But on the other hand, I'm sure it's fun for Rich Sommer to play this kind of role since I don't think he usually does. While I will never stop believing that using a guide dog training facility is a good conduit for money laundering and drug trafficking, I think the writers have done a good job connecting a lot of little things together to keep tension across episodes and throw constant twists at the characters. I was waiting for at least one of the characters to try to run away since some people would entertain that as their only way out. I do hope Jess comes back, though. I expect her to pop back up (of her own volition??) when Murphy and Felix need her most. I agree that Dean's going to have a hard time using Murphy's drug cane against her. It must have her prints and DNA all over it, but it has Chloe's, too, and Dean can't prove Murphy was in possession. And even if he could, he wants to keep Chloe out of it. She will find out at least partial truths about him, though, eventually. Maybe not that he killed a young boy, but at least some of his other crimes. I'm hoping that Dean, unable to submit the cane as evidence, gets tempted to sell the drugs himself after he, for instance, gets one last call from Chloe's school saying she cannot come back until he pays off her tuition balance, so he unloads the drugs in desperation to make a good faith payment. (Murphy didn't buy "that much," but maybe Dean is running on fumes when it comes to bills.) But somehow it all bites him in the ass and it turns his mission to bust Nia, Murphy, and associates on its head. Gene will spearhead that discovery. In some way or another, Dean's being behind on the tuition is going to be the catalyst for something in the last few episodes. I can't say I was surprised when Darnell admitted his real relationship with Nia, but since I honestly can't tell how old either of them are supposed to be, I also wouldn't be surprised if that's not actually the truth. Sam is already suspicious as to why Nia let Darnell off so easily, so I think she's going to poke at that as Nia feels more pressured to pretend it's arms' length handling. As the conflict grows, we'll find out it's the classic situation of Nia not being his sister, but his mother. Her mother and his grandmother died young. Nia pretended to be his sister raising him. She just can't turn on Darnell, no matter what, and that leads to some real internal fireworks within her gang as the season ends.
  7. It's my understanding that the potential spin-off is a prequel and takes place soon after the events that made Earth uninhabitable. So I don't think anyone from the parent show will go to the spin-off, at least not without some element of travel back into time or possibly an actor playing a character's ancestor who looks just like them, haha. I think it would be funny if everyone left at Sanctum across all tribes/groups/krus went through the anomaly and came back out 100 years old. Then they can just sit against tree trunks, tired and not very mobile, in peace that has only come about due to their old age and "the 100" years on their bodies. Old Murphy yells at some animal, "Get off my lawn!" THE END. Also, Jordan is so incredibly useless.
  8. I'm not saying she was, but I can believe that RR was a thorn in everyone's side during production. I don't know that it was exactly as the ONTD poster said, but if she was unhappy enough to want to get out of her contract, saying "I want to be released from my six-year contract as the title character" probably wouldn't be enough. But if she makes the producers want to get her out of there, too, they're more inclined to release her. So if she was being a diva and creating production and interpersonal problems, that might not have been just "how she is," but more so how she was purposely behaving to get that contract release. Other actors and actresses have done stuff like this before, I'm sure. The only one that immediately comes to mind is how Jessica Biel was purposely doing risqué photo shoots and things to try to force a dismissal from Seventh Heaven. Of course, there's consequences to this hypothetical course of action. As mentioned above, studios may think twice / not at all about casting her in any prominent roles. The public will get the surface-level diplomacy and leaks from alleged inside sources, but in Hollywood, they'll talk much more freely about the "she said, they said" sides. It's a calculated risk that may or may not pay off - she may find continued success in projects of shorter commitments, or she could end up one of the endless string of young actors who lose traction. I haven't watched OITNB, but I've seen her in multiple movie roles and she always comes off the exact same to me. (Not that The Meg and XXX: Return of Xander Cage were roles of depth, haha.) I honestly didn't see much difference in her as Batwoman/Kate, either.
  9. Tom Welling has openly and unabashedly talked about the toll that filming Smallville took on him. For years and years afterwards, he stayed away from television. I'm not sure if he told his people, no lead roles or no tv at all, but he was so over it. Granted, it took him quite a few seasons to get to that breaking point, but he hated the long days/months and minimal sleep. I think he's even said he would petulantly refuse to get/stay in shape over the summer hiatus and just come back to shoot the new season looking however he looked. He just could not care about putting even more time into the show. Happily, he did have a nice reunion with television as an ensemble character on Lucifer, so yay for that. He initially made sure to negotiate a certain number of episodes only, but came to enjoy the show/set so much that he asked about appearing in more episodes than that original number. Anyway, I don't really have anything to add to the "why" speculation behind RR's departure. I know the party line is it had nothing to do with her previous injury, and while that may be true, it was kind of a yucky indirect reminder of that production assistant's grave injury right before the Batwoman set shut down due to the pandemic. I don't think it was at all calculated for the production team to say that (as if they were trying to give the impression, "set safety is not a problem here and no one worries about that, let alone our previous star"), but I feel quite badly for the young lady who was hurt.
  10. I never want to hear what a "Manes man" would or would not do, ever again in my life. They're saying it so much on this show (at least Alex does it sarcastically). Sure, it's in keeping with the toxic masculinity of that family, but ugh. To take the edge off, I just think about a far more enjoyable version from "Scent of a Woman" during Big Al's monologue at the disciplinary hearing. "You think you're merely sendin' this splendid foot-soldier back home to Oregon with his tail between his legs, but I say you are executin' his SOUL!! And why?! Because he's not a Baird man! Baird men, ya hurt this boy, you're going to be Baird Bums, the lot of ya."
  11. Count me in as another person who had zero sympathy watching Pepper's house of cards come crashing down. Just because she doesn't engage in violence doesn't mean she doesn't deserve every single consequence from her actions, especially because she's stolen from and defrauded so many people in the past and gotten away with it. OK, we get it, she came from humble beginnings and feeling unwanted, but that's no excuse for stealing from people to climb in stature. I never cared that she was sometimes a good friend. And she was never committing fraud to help her friends! Yeah, right! Only as an ancillary act if it benefitted her! So she embezzles money from Kiss of the Spider Woman and doesn't pay Jorge or Josie. How is that helping them! Later she gives Josie a stage and Jorge a screen at the Plant, and then it's all, "ooh, ahh, I can't believe you did all this for me!" ????? In a different type of show, she would have been murdered already. I also found it odd that Jorge's dad took a bunch of money from Pepper. Is he supposed to be such a proud man that he struggles to take it from his son, who does live in the building, but is happy to take money from his son's friend, who doesn't live in the building? Is the difference that Jorge's dad perceives Pepper as having a lot of money, so it's NBD to take some from her? I don't know if this show will be renewed and how its chances look relative to CW's pilot scripts, but if it does come back - the writers need to go back to square one, badly. I keep up with the show bc it's an easy watch, but that's not a positive thing, really. It's easy bc I'm not invested.
  12. Oh, I'm sure some new busybody older woman just moved into Liz's apartment building and Liz left Agnes with her, based on innocuous information the woman revealed about herself and no background check. It'll all turn out fine! From Shane Oman in "Mean Girls" to Liz's calm in the storm who keeps her from being swept out to sea ... at least give Diego some Kalteen bars so he can stress eat.
  13. Malarky rubs me the wrong way for sure - I highly doubt I could stand him in person for any real measure of time, but on this show, he's tolerable for me bc of two main reasons: He is the pretty much the only one acting this way in more than a one-off. I can't handle it when there's too much negativity or gross behavior on reality competition shows based on merit. That's not what I'm there for. His egotistical soundbytes come back around in an unflattering way, and that's funny. He talks about how he'd love to win the Trolls premiere tickets bc his daughter is the biggest fan (of Trolls or Kelly Clarkson - don't remember) and she'd think he was the coolest in the world. Oh wait - she already thinks that! - and then he ends up doing very poorly in the QF. He's at the top of his ranking, shows it all off, puts Eric, Gregory, and Nini in the bottom half, and then look what happens in the EC. I love Bryan V, and also loved how he was holding up Leanne's mom. When people have been through or are going through some shit, and they need/value someone steady and consistent in their lives, I think he's that exact kind of person. Not flashy, kind of corny, totally solid, and never a drain on you even when you're a drain on him. He also soothed my mildly ruffled feathers about the teasing of Nini last week. After they finished the EC and were walking away from the booths, he and Nini were walking together in a way that I have to believe showed they are still friendly and enjoy each other. It was just the two of them, apart from the others. Eric's adoration of his wife hits all the right spots - genuine and accessible. lol which also describes his child's unbothered facial expression hahah.
  14. 110%, I would watch the feature film "Ray Wicks." Indeed indeed indeed indeed. So who are Jake and Amy going to ask to be the godfather of their baby, Nakatomi McClane? Boyle seems like an obvious choice, but I think the chances are good that they'll ask Holt and Kevin. Cheddar's instagram is going to blow up even more once they add pics of him and the baby together.
  15. I don't know how Brian Tee doesn't get furious every time he reads a new script. He probably breathed a sigh of relief at the end of this one, though. "Finally, these assholes break up!" I highly doubt that Colin Donnell watches the show or keeps up with it anymore, but hopefully any sadness he had about being written out earlier this year is gone, after some time away and the continued tomfoolery he left behind. Everyone at this hospital needs to be sent to a series of remedial classes for anger management, conflict management, emotional intelligence, respecting patient wishes, conflict of interest, and minding your own damn business. And when I say series of classes, I mean a minimum of 4 years because that's how much help they require.
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