S05.E22: Reunion Part 2

[luvthepros]

14 hours ago, Emmeline said:

Oh, and he said he had been faithful during their 5 months apart.  

I noticed Malia said NOTHING when they were asked that question.

[luvthepros]

17 hours ago, njbchlover said:

........  That was a pretty screwed up DM that Rob sent to Aesha. ........

 

 

What was the DM that Rob sent to Aesha? I missed that.

 

Edited October 27, 2020 by luvthepros

[dsteele]

13 hours ago, njbchlover said:

Advil PM contains mostly melatonin, which is a natural sleep aid.

Actually, it contains only ibuprofen and diphenhydramine. The latter being an antihistamine that tends to make folks drowsy.

Similar to the effect of watching Sandy on the reunion, which also makes folks drowsy. 😴

[Boo Boo]

If Hannah was supposed to declare her meds, she's at fault.  She was done with being a yachtie, so I would not be surprised if production knew this could be her last season and were looking for the reason to fire her for drama's sake.  Otherwise, how do you explain how others who have done worse -- being impaired while working -- were not fired (Kat under Capt. Lee, Travis under Sandy).

That said, I'm amazed at the ignorance of Andy.  He said something to the effect that no one is prescribed THC for anxiety and he could not be more wrong.  I am in Maryland and got my medical card precisely for anxiety. It's one of several medical reasons for the use of THC that Maryland (and other states that have approved Medical MJ) grants.  I used to take Lexapro and having that prior prescription helped me get the card.  There are a TON of other conditions that the use of THC and CBD help which is why there IS such a thing as medical MJ.  I generally use my medical MJ for sleep.  i have a vape pen by my bedside.  Sometimes I use indica, other times I use the CBD dominant pens.  I actually just ordered a straight CBD vape cart and am interested to see how this helps me compared to the ones with THC.

MJ isn't just for getting giggles anymore.  

(That said, the giggles is a wonderful side benefit to the medical card).

 

Edited October 27, 2020 by Boo Boo

[njbchlover]

1 hour ago, dsteele said:

Actually, it contains only ibuprofen and diphenhydramine. The latter being an antihistamine that tends to make folks drowsy.

Similar to the effect of watching Sandy on the reunion, which also makes folks drowsy. 😴

Oh wow - I thought it contained melatonin - thanks for letting me know!  And, I agree with you about watching Sandy!!  

[Duke2801]

6 hours ago, Lassus said:

Have you met the internet?

Yeah there are some serious cray-crays out there, and social media makes these “Bravolebrities” more accessible to them. I totally believe somebody could have made a death threat against her.  

1 hour ago, luvthepros said:

What was the DM that Rob sent to Aesha? I missed that.

 

He asked if she took any big c*ck lately. 
Such a charmer, he is. 

[Haute Messe]

17 hours ago, njbchlover said:

And, also his popcorn eating!!!  I love Alex!! 

Although he's too nice and drama-free to be on this show.  Can you imagine a season with Alex and Colin as deck crew?  It would probably be a lot of laughs!  

It actually would be a lot more enjoyable to watch than this dreck. The less said about Sandy and her minion the better.

4 hours ago, luvthepros said:

I noticed Malia said NOTHING when they were asked that question.

Hah, it was the ONLY time she had nothing to say.

I thought that Jess came off looking a lot more sane in the reunion than on the show, and Bugsy had way too much to say.

Regarding THC, I think it depends a lot on your body chemistry how it affects a person. It makes my heart race and gives me an instant panic attack - I use Ativan if needed for anxiety, which is a benzo like Valium. Same as whether Adderal or RItalin calms an ADHD person down or acts like speed in others.

Finally, I cannot fathom why Andy kisses Sandy's arse and he basically sucks.

[Madhattter]

I’m really getting frustrated and annoyed by the many inconsistencies between the things we’ve seen on Below Deck regarding medication, the handling of food by someone other than the chef, etc., and the same things on Below Deck Med. It’s bad enough that Sandy constantly contradicts herself (Malia, get out of the kitchen now/Malia is so great in the kitchen with Tom; Kiko, you should not be so emotional/Tom’s tantrums are part of being a good chef, etc.....), but why is there such a stark difference between how things are handled between both shows—and why does Andy not seem to recognize or acknowledge this given that both shows are on Bravo. In addition to the often cited situation with Kat and her anxiety medicine, which did not seem to warrant firing her, nor was there any mention by ANYONE at the time about her having registered the medicine with the bridge. About an hour ago, Bravo was airing an episode where Kyle the deck hand has an allergic reaction to uni. While Captain Lee is sitting there, the Bosun Kelly and deckhand Nico proceed to break out a first aid bag and give him something akin to Benadryl. They even mention it will make him drowsy. Unlike Malia and her claim of needing to call a nurse on shore to get permission to get the Benadryl, no such call seemed to be made by the Below Deck crew. Are these just things we never saw? Or does Captain Sandy have a very different style and way of doing things than Captain Lee—-I know, rhetorical question.  

Aside from the drugs, Sandy’s ridiculous answer that only the chef is allowed to touch food an prepare it for the guest. Yesterday, the season with Rocky was airing and she was making a quesadilla for the guests while Chef Leon slept. No issue with a stew preparing food there.  And then there’s Malia, acting as Tom’s assistant, touching all kinds of food. Sandy certainly rationalizes things to fit what she wants or who she likes, from moment to moment. 

And I guess it’s par for the course that Sandy’s little protege Malia would show the same lack of consistency with the truth when it serves her purposes. When asked on social media—and on the reunion last night—why she didn’t have the decency to approach Hannah directly about the Valium, say to her, hey, I don’t know if you’ve reported this, but if you don’t, you’ve put me in a position that I have to, Malia said it was not her business to know what medicine Hannah was taking. What? Am I in an alternate reality. It’s not your business when you could have talked to her decently, but it is your business to rummage through Hannah’s stuff and send a photo to the captain.  

When asked why she didn’t mention the Valium when she first told Sandy about Hannah “freaking out” Malia said at the time she didn’t know what was going on, if Hannah really had Valium. But when Hannah asked her if she had found Valium for Hannah during her “freak out” Malia said yes.  Soooo, what’s your answer now Malia? Do you and Sandy think we all just turn off our common sense when you give your version of things?

I’m really glad this season is over, because it’s providing me with outrage and aggravation I don’t need.

Edited October 27, 2020 by Madhattter

[luvthepros]

2 hours ago, Duke2801 said:

Yeah there are some serious cray-crays out there, and social media makes these “Bravolebrities” more accessible to them. I totally believe somebody could have made a death threat against her.  

He asked if she took any big c*ck lately. 
Such a charmer, he is. 

I never liked Rob.

[aghst]

Malia said she took evidence of Hanna's pen first to production, not to the captain or anyone else who's involved in enforcing maritime law.

They put it on Sandy, but they could certainly have cooked up ways to amp up the drama.

 

[Jack Sampson]

19 hours ago, nytonc said:

So Malaria and/or Sandy, Queens of Maritime Law, said that anything that alters your state of awareness is forbidden. What about all the alcohol this bunch of drunks pour down their gullets when they have a night off?  Even if they’re between charters, there could be an emergency on board. What happens then?  Are Malaria’s superpowers immune to alcohol?  Will she save the boat from incarceration? 

Jess, shut the fuck up. You’re a moron. 

Post of the decade!!

What about the coke Malia was supposedly doing on the nights out?  Or last season when the guys were drunk and not responding to an alarm?

17 hours ago, 65mickey said:

When Captain Lee was on WWHL a few weeks ago Andy asked him about a crew member having prescription meds. on board. He sated that he had no problem with this if it was prescribed by a physician for the crew member. He went on to say that it as would be far worse to withhold meds from someone who needs them and that it wasn't his call as he wasn't a doctor. Now we have Malia and Sandy saying that you cannot work on a boat while taking Valium. Even Bugs said that was not correct but it needs to be logged in.  Why did Andy let Sandy get away with lying about the cabin assignments and also not questioning Malia and Sandy about how Malia came to be in possession of Hannah's Valium and CBD pen? Either Andy is a terrible moderator who can't remember to ask the questions that most viewers want answers for or he is trying real hard to protect Sandy and Malia. Probably both. 

Andy is a cokehead just trying to keep viewers/money/coke flowing.  He's hoping that everyone will forget or hate-watch by next season.  We'll see if he's right.  Sandy and Malia are his favs so he'll protect them as best he can.

9 hours ago, 65mickey said:

Yes I have and I am sure that she got nasty comments but did anyone threaten to kill her over this? We know that she has a penchant for twisting the truth. 

Most of the Internet "death threats" turn out to be fake.  But it's instant sympathy so it's a widely used tactic from a cold, calculating mind.

[Neurochick]

21 hours ago, nytonc said:

So Malaria and/or Sandy, Queens of Maritime Law, said that anything that alters your state of awareness is forbidden. What about all the alcohol this bunch of drunks pour down their gullets when they have a night off?  Even if they’re between charters, there could be an emergency on board. What happens then?  Are Malaria’s superpowers immune to alcohol?  Will she save the boat from incarceration? 

So glad someone brought that up.  Sandy is supposed to be sober.  She should know the dangers of alcohol.  What percentage of the crew has worked hungover after a night out? 

Sandy is supposed to be sober.  She should have talked to Hannah personally.

If they bring back Shady Sandy and the Snitch, I won't be watching.  90 Day Fiance is a much better show, and that's a shame.

[spunky]

Jess was the real MVP.  She was calling out Sandy and Malia left and right. "Let me shut up so you can talk to yourself." Sandy didn't have a comeback for that one. We know Bravo won't ask her back because she's not a snake. Rob is gross and a manipulator. 

[Boo Boo]

14 hours ago, lizajane said:

Regarding THC, I think it depends a lot on your body chemistry how it affects a person. It makes my heart race and gives me an instant panic attack - I use Ativan if needed for anxiety, which is a benzo like Valium. Same as whether Adderal or RItalin calms an ADHD person down or acts like speed in others.

 

No question!  For me, I have to be careful about how many hits I take.  I can go from relaxed to anxiety attack b/c I don't like the feeling of being too high.

Edited October 28, 2020 by Boo Boo

[Boo Boo]

14 hours ago, luvthepros said:

I never liked Rob.

Same.  He's a humorless dud to me.  He takes a great photo, so I understand how he could model, but on video, I don't see the hot.  I'm sure like men who just want to date a model, there are women that want to date the model who posed with Taylor Swift.

[CaliforniaLove]

14 hours ago, Neurochick said:

So glad someone brought that up.  Sandy is supposed to be sober.  She should know the dangers of alcohol.  What percentage of the crew has worked hungover after a night out? 

Sandy is supposed to be sober.  She should have talked to Hannah personally.

If they bring back Shady Sandy and the Snitch, I won't be watching.  90 Day Fiance is a much better show, and that's a shame.

Yeah, and let's not forget Travis's season where she straight up SMELLED booze on him. That was ok though, and not only did he not receive any repercussions for that, she chose him to take over the docking when JWow fell ill. Such a great leader on the boat, and in life! 

[Sage47]

3 hours ago, Boo Boo said:

Same.  He's a humorless dud to me.  He takes a great photo, so I understand how he could model, but on video, I don't see the hot.  I'm sure like men who just want to date a model, there are women that want to date the model who posed with Taylor Swift.

Completely humorless. Flat, dull. And, I don’t understand the modeling thing, he has slightly odd looks. He also talked too much about being a model-very shallow/egocentric. 

Jess came off great at the reunion. She can do way better than douchey Rob. 
 

 

[nokat]

15 hours ago, Neurochick said:

Sandy is supposed to be sober.

Supposed to be. There were a few things she posted that made us wonder.
 

[RoxiP]

I still want to know why Malia thinks it was okay to go through Hannah's things...I don't believe her that it was lying out in plain sight...Hannah is a lot of things but stupid isn't one of them.  Of course Andy would have never asked Malia that kind of question.

[nokat]

17 hours ago, Jack Sampson said:

What about the coke Malia was supposedly doing on the nights out?  Or last season when the guys were drunk and not responding to an alarm?

Andy is a cokehead just trying to keep viewers/money/coke flowing.  He's hoping that everyone will forget or hate-watch by next season.  We'll see if he's right.  Sandy and Malia are his favs so he'll protect them as best he can.

Most of the Internet "death threats" turn out to be fake.  But it's instant sympathy so it's a widely used tactic from a cold, calculating mind.

If someone uses fake death threats for sympathy, that is beyond pathetic.

Now you have me wondering if the whole Pete thing was to shut him up about the Malia and cocaine. Yes, he was a creepy misogynistic and racist arse, but we had a whole season of that on Below Deck with no repercussions.
 

[Milan]

On 10/27/2020 at 5:13 PM, luvthepros said:

I noticed Malia said NOTHING when they were asked that question.

hahaha....you are the first one here that noticed.

Off course Malia was not saying anything because she is a slut.

In the 2 seasons with her in the cast she slept with 3 guys. it seem she can not go dry for a month believe me.....

[Neurochick]

19 hours ago, Jack Sampson said:

Andy is a cokehead just trying to keep viewers/money/coke flowing.  He's hoping that everyone will forget or hate-watch by next season.  We'll see if he's right.  Sandy and Malia are his favs so he'll protect them as best he can.

I agree with this.  I believe that the producers wanted Hannah off the show.  According to Hannah's Instagram account, she's been with her partner for two years.  That means she wasn't up for any "showmance" bullshit.  The producers of this show want Vanderpump Rules at sea and Hannah wasn't playing the game, she had to go.  

[Milan]

I am a offshore HSE advisor with 20+ years of experience. Obviously, offshore there is no alcohol at all, so for me it is interesting to see crew drinking and partying (I am jealous).

There are so many items that are BS on the part of "captain "Sandy and snitch Malia.

They both pretend to be holier than the pope , but there are so many thing that are not right.

A real captain, such as Lee would handle the Hannah drugs much better.

It is very easy. Bring the medication, we register the medication, continue work......end of the story. BE A PERSON SANDY. It is not as if Hannah was doing cocaine.

1. Who gave permission to Malia to make pictures of Hannah's private belongings? Because there was bad blood between the two people involved, Malia could have also planted the drugs there.

2. Why did Malia not talk to Hannah about it, so that Hannah could get the necessary paperwork ready. Sandy is saying that it would not have been a problem if the Valium was registered. Well, REGISTER IT there ant then. It is not like Hannah was a complete stranger to Sandy. And again letting Malia think she is in the position to be a sheriff onboard. Being a snitch is NEVER gonna work, and the entire yachting world has seen Malia and the way she acts. Not good.

3. Playing favourites and letting Malia change cabin arrangements is BS. Malia is not first officer (I hope she never becomes first officer).

4. If Sandy and Malia are talking about Valium and the Safety of the Boat, what about the numerous times the crew cam home not even being able to walk. What about doing a drug and alcohol test on the crew when they show up for work in the morning? They would all be fired.

5. Why did Sandy not fire that one deck hand in a previous season when she smelled alcohol while he was on duty?

6. Why does Malia go to the captain for being called "sweetheart" , yet she calls the deck hands "boys". I mean , this is so pathetic that she had to run and cry to the captain instead of talking to the guy involved there and then if she was so bothered by it. Is it ok for Malia to fuck her way up the ranks like she did in the last season? And now she cannot handle being called sweetheart?

7. If Kiko was not qualified (This is what Sandy is saying), why was he hired in the first place? Yet, Kiko is working as a yacht chef even toady?

8. The Captain being in the galley 95% of the time is very unprofessional, and also asking the guests if the food is good after every spoon they put in their mouth.

9. Didn't Captain Sandy tell Malia to stay out of the galley, yet she REFUSED and was in the galley all the time? Kiko did not get 10% the help Tom received.

 

etc, etc etc

 

I hope we never have to see Sandy and Malia. Disgusting people.

[65mickey]

On 10/27/2020 at 8:26 AM, 65mickey said:

 

The problem with Sandy and Malia is that they are not smart enough to keep their lies straight. That's why they keep changing their stories. 

[Boo Boo]

6 hours ago, RoxiP said:

I still want to know why Malia thinks it was okay to go through Hannah's things...I don't believe her that it was lying out in plain sight...Hannah is a lot of things but stupid isn't one of them.  Of course Andy would have never asked Malia that kind of question.

Exactly.  And unless the editing monkeys are at work, it followed her demand to room with Tom, so it seemed spiteful. 

[Duke2801]

17 hours ago, Milan said:

hahaha....you are the first one here that noticed.

Off course Malia was not saying anything because she is a slut.

In the 2 seasons with her in the cast she slept with 3 guys. it seem she can not go dry for a month believe me.....

Well Tom is the one who cheated. So I guess he’s the “slut”? 
 

 

[Baltimore Betty]

20 hours ago, Milan said:

7. If Kiko was not qualified (This is what Sandy is saying), why was he hired in the first place? Yet, Kiko is working as a yacht chef even toady?

To paraphrase Sandy's own words she said only the good chef's throw hissy fits in the galley, Kiko did not behave like that so Sandy deemed him to be a bad chef...how did Kiko get hired...he is cute, nice and probably a good chef in a different kind of situation but more importantly the producers thought he could be a catalyst for a little drama for being out of his depth.

[PaperTree]

On 10/28/2020 at 1:43 PM, Milan said:

Who gave permission to Malia to make pictures of Hannah's private belongings? Because there was bad blood between the two people involved, Malia could have also planted the drugs there.

I can't find the pic, but originally, the box clearly showed the prescription with Hannah's name and a pharmacy in Sydney printed out.  This must have been on the other side of the valium pack they showed during the reunion.  Sneaky!

IIRC, the Dr.'s name was blurred out.

[PaperTree]

On 10/28/2020 at 1:43 PM, Milan said:

 

I have a better one somewhere, but this should do.

Edited October 30, 2020 by PaperTree

[elsie]

On 10/28/2020 at 10:20 AM, Milan said:

hahaha....you are the first one here that noticed.

Off course Malia was not saying anything because she is a slut.

In the 2 seasons with her in the cast she slept with 3 guys. it seem she can not go dry for a month believe me.....

Gasp! (Cue pearl clutching)

If she were more transparent about it she could sleep with cast, crew, production...who cares? To me it is not the fucking that is the objectionable component of her behavior.

[IndyMischa]

I think the difference in chefs is Sandy thinks crying = weak, while yelling and being an ass = passionate / perfectionist. A lot of people probably feel that way (even if subconsciously). But Sandy the bitchy micromanaging jackass is definitely one. 

Edited October 31, 2020 by IndyMischa
Typos annoy me.

[biakbiak]

1 hour ago, IndyMischa said:

I think the difference in chefs is Sandy thinks crying = weak, while yelling and being an ass = passionate / perfectionist. A lot of people probably feel that way (even if subconsciously). But Sandy the bitchy micromanaging jackass is definitely one. 

Tom was a whiny petulant child more than yelling and acting like an ass. 

[lcarolynl]

In two seasons Malia slept with, at most, TWO people.

Adam has said that their “intimacy”, as he phrased it, consisted of French kissing.

I don’t recall if she and Wes actually closed the deal but two men in two seasons? That sounds like a sexually healthy woman, not a “slut”

Seriously, are we in high school here? A slut?

Of all her reprehensible behavior I can’t believe that in 2020 we’re slut shaming Malia for French kissing Adam before the season started, pursuing a relationship with Wes (maybe having sex with him, I just don’t recall if we know that), and years later, having sex with Tom, her established boyfriend.

[Baltimore Betty]

4 hours ago, lcarolynl said:

In two seasons Malia slept with, at most, TWO people.

Adam has said that their “intimacy”, as he phrased it, consisted of French kissing.

I don’t recall if she and Wes actually closed the deal but two men in two seasons? That sounds like a sexually healthy woman, not a “slut”

Seriously, are we in high school here? A slut?

Of all her reprehensible behavior I can’t believe that in 2020 we’re slut shaming Malia for French kissing Adam before the season started, pursuing a relationship with Wes (maybe having sex with him, I just don’t recall if we know that), and years later, having sex with Tom, her established boyfriend.

If I had to have a real relationship with every guy I kissed...not enough time in one lifetime, lol.  Malia's behavior should be a red flag for any crew member in future seasons of BDM, she has shown herself untrustworthy and that has nothing to do with her smooching a couple guys on the same boat.  Not a team player at all.

[IndyMischa]

15 hours ago, biakbiak said:

Tom was a whiny petulant child more than yelling and acting like an ass. 

He's definitely a whiny toddler too, but I was thinking about snapping at Aesha and throwing the baking pan. I'm sure there are more, but those immediately come to mind. 

[biakbiak]

3 hours ago, IndyMischa said:

He's definitely a whiny toddler too, but I was thinking about snapping at Aesha and throwing the baking pan. I'm sure there are more, but those immediately come to mind. 

He literally stomped his foot and was near tears in front of Sandy over burnt toast. My point is not that he was never angry and an ass it’s just that it was not his only way of acting out so Sandy was not making a distinction between Kiko being “weak” and Tom being “authoritative” in her hypocritical stance about how chefs should act. 

Edited November 1, 2020 by biakbiak

[PaperTree]

Funny how Bravo isn't re-running Reunion Part 2 Monday night.

They hope it will all just go away

[GreyBunny]

Making out with a couple of guys - no big deal.

Making out with one guy while in a relationship with another - ew.

Making out with a guy to get a promotion - disgusting, and makes it harder for other women who want to be deck crew or captain to be taken seriously. Malia is gross.

 

[biakbiak]

18 hours ago, GreyBunny said:

Making out with a couple of guys - no big deal.

Making out with one guy while in a relationship with another - ew.

Making out with a guy to get a promotion - disgusting, and makes it harder for other women who want to be deck crew or captain to be taken seriously. Malia is gross.

 

She and Adam were in a relationship and she first kissed Wes before she even knew that Sandy had asked him to do a fake “promotion” that didn’t come with any different responsibilities or pay.