Elizzikra June 27, 2019 Share June 27, 2019 1 hour ago, discoprincessthe2 said: I basically said this in another thread: More tweets for the fun of it: Also, when this moment happened last night, I was ☠️: I hope things go better for Iris than than they did for Whitney, may she rest in peace. 7 Link to comment
Soup333 June 27, 2019 Share June 27, 2019 11 hours ago, Spectator said: I’ve been thinking about this “bad edit” thing and it got me thinking back to Heather, who was portrayed as being perpetually pissed off that Derek was “smoking”. I think a lot of viewers thought she was overacting. But the show conveniently edited out the fact that Derek wasn’t smoking cigarettes but was, in fact, smoking weed and that he was perpetually high. There’s a HUGE difference and if I were in her shoes and my husband were high during our whole MAFS honeymoon, a time when we were supposed to be really getting to know each other without distractions, I think I’d be annoyed too (especially since it seemed pretty clear that Heather was not smoking anything at all...that imbalance is never much fun for the sober one). But for whatever reason, the show hid all of that and portrayed Heather as a neurotic anti-cigarette loon. I think Heather definitely ranks up there with the top MAFS participants with unfair edits. I’m thinking it was the show’s not so subtle way of retaliating against her for quitting the show early. I had forgotten all about this guy. While this past episode was on I searched Twitter for mafs and happened to see a tweet by him. It only caught my attention because it wasn't about the show at all and I was wondering why it was included in the search. It was political and he's an asshole (not because of his political beliefs but just the stuff he tweets) and I'm surprised he still uses his mafs twitter handle. 2 Link to comment
aphroditewitch June 28, 2019 Share June 28, 2019 22 hours ago, Spectator said: I’ve been thinking about this “bad edit” thing and it got me thinking back to Heather, who was portrayed as being perpetually pissed off that Derek was “smoking”. I think a lot of viewers thought she was overacting. But the show conveniently edited out the fact that Derek wasn’t smoking cigarettes but was, in fact, smoking weed and that he was perpetually high. There’s a HUGE difference and if I were in her shoes and my husband were high during our whole MAFS honeymoon, a time when we were supposed to be really getting to know each other without distractions, I think I’d be annoyed too (especially since it seemed pretty clear that Heather was not smoking anything at all...that imbalance is never much fun for the sober one). But for whatever reason, the show hid all of that and portrayed Heather as a neurotic anti-cigarette loon. I think Heather definitely ranks up there with the top MAFS participants with unfair edits. I’m thinking it was the show’s not so subtle way of retaliating against her for quitting the show early. imagine what their edit would have done to Kate if she had left the way people wanted her to. We never would have known about the "repulsed and dead inside" comment Luke made. 2 Link to comment
aphroditewitch June 28, 2019 Share June 28, 2019 11 hours ago, Soup333 said: I had forgotten all about this guy. While this past episode was on I searched Twitter for mafs and happened to see a tweet by him. It only caught my attention because it wasn't about the show at all and I was wondering why it was included in the search. It was political and he's an asshole (not because of his political beliefs but just the stuff he tweets) and I'm surprised he still uses his mafs twitter handle. He apparently tweets a lot of hateful stuff about women. Heather was smart to get out early even though she got so much heat about it at the time. 6 Link to comment
Yeah No June 28, 2019 Share June 28, 2019 On 6/23/2019 at 8:42 PM, configdotsys said: Isn't in just your opinion that Jasmine got a bad edit? Or was portrayed as someone that she is not? I don't mean that in a snarky way but your opinion that Jasmine got a bad edit is based on what you think/believe based on what you have seen on this show. My opinion is based on what I have seen on the show. I don't watch television thinking, "Well, they're showing this person being nice/rude/whatever but maybe they are just the opposite so I'm not going to believe what I am seeing." I think Jasmine's "bad edit" was based on very, very little information that I believe was generalized beyond its overall importance in the scheme of who she is (which I think was intentionally done by the show). Meanwhile Will's lack of affect allowed the show to portray him in a more positive light than he deserved, which allowed the audience to project nothing but good qualities on him. I don't remember all the incidents now but throughout the season there was evidence to show that Will was not the guy he seemed to be to many people, but I think the negative with him was minimized by the show so of course the audience minimized it or didn't even see it at all. That, plus Jasmine herself seemed unwilling to air his dirty laundry on TV, or the show didn't broadcast it if she did. Even at the reunion episode she was putting on a facade and refrained from throwing him under the bus or saying much to make him look bad. I think she felt that some people would look down on her for that so she tried to keep it classy. Unfortunately that allowed the show to hide Will's faults all the more, which didn't allow the audience to understand why Jasmine responded to him the way she did. Like the impression they gave of him wanting to help kids. Personally I think he showed a lack of realism in the way he wanted to achieve that, and perhaps Jasmine's reaction should more appropriately be seen in that context. On 6/24/2019 at 12:39 PM, aphroditewitch said: No , it is not solely my opinion since things that happened at the reunion and after the show confirm Jasmine was given a bad edit. Thanks, as you know I agree with you and pretty much everything you've said on this subject in this thread. 1 Link to comment
humbleopinion June 28, 2019 Share June 28, 2019 https://www.distractify.com/p/matt-gwynne-married-at-first-sight 🤞. Matt specializes in detailing the roofs, naturally. No ladder needed. 1 Link to comment
humbleopinion June 28, 2019 Share June 28, 2019 https://www.distractify.com/p/keith-iris-married-at-first-sight Gah, these two cannot be photographed poorly.. Awful music in the Insta, so sub it with harp and birds chirping... 3 Link to comment
Elizzikra June 28, 2019 Share June 28, 2019 Quote Matt specializes in detailing the roofs, naturally. You gotta use the gifts God gave you! 2 Link to comment
gonecrackers June 28, 2019 Share June 28, 2019 I take these still together updates, even after the show confirms, with a grain of salt - give it a good year & we'll what happens once the contract expires. 1 4 Link to comment
ShowFan June 29, 2019 Share June 29, 2019 So I have a hypothesis...what if Iris doesn’t turn out to be that virgin? She could have done plenty of other things. For all I know she could have used the back door and still be claiming technically virginity. The quietest waters are the deepest. 1 1 Link to comment
aphroditewitch June 29, 2019 Share June 29, 2019 12 hours ago, ShowFan said: So I have a hypothesis...what if Iris doesn’t turn out to be that virgin? She could have done plenty of other things. For all I know she could have used the back door and still be claiming technically virginity. The quietest waters are the deepest. Possibly. Or it could be something like engaging in dry humping. Link to comment
discoprincessthe2 July 1, 2019 Share July 1, 2019 (edited) On 6/27/2019 at 10:25 PM, aphroditewitch said: He apparently tweets a lot of hateful stuff about women. Heather was smart to get out early even though she got so much heat about it at the time. Case in point: I think he also got into it with someone else from the Miami season over Twitter. I don't recall whether it was Sonia or Lillian. Edited to add: It WAS Lillian: Someone posted this response: This dude also dropped a rap single after the quickie divorce called "Honeymoon". Edited July 1, 2019 by discoprincessthe2 1 Link to comment
aphroditewitch July 1, 2019 Share July 1, 2019 26 minutes ago, discoprincessthe2 said: Case in point: I think he also got into it with someone else from the Miami season over Twitter. I don't recall whether it was Sonia or Lillian. Edited to add: It WAS Lillian: Someone posted this response: This dude also dropped a rap single after the quickie divorce called "Honeymoon". He is truly pathetic. 8 Link to comment
lids July 1, 2019 Share July 1, 2019 I think I just saw Iris in a Zales commercial before a 90 Day Fiancé episode on YouTube. Not sure everyone gets the same ad. Models and 27-year-old Musicians desperate for marriage? This season is a little suspect. 2 Link to comment
watchingtvaddict July 1, 2019 Share July 1, 2019 1 minute ago, lids said: I think I just saw Iris in a Zales commercial before a 90 Day Fiancé episode on YouTube. Not sure everyone gets the same ad. Models and 27-year-old Musicians desperate for marriage? This season is a little suspect. The previews show Iris questioning why Keith signed up for this... but I am sure Keith could ask Iris the same thing. They're both attractive and I'm sure they don't have any issues dating. 1 Link to comment
aphroditewitch July 1, 2019 Share July 1, 2019 1 hour ago, lids said: I think I just saw Iris in a Zales commercial before a 90 Day Fiancé episode on YouTube. Not sure everyone gets the same ad. Models and 27-year-old Musicians desperate for marriage? This season is a little suspect. If they went on this show hoping for a boost, then they are foolish. Few people from reality shows break into the industry and fewer still achieve true success. It is not going to happen for someone from MAFS. 1 hour ago, watchingtvaddict said: The previews show Iris questioning why Keith signed up for this... but I am sure Keith could ask Iris the same thing. They're both attractive and I'm sure they don't have any issues dating. We can say that about anyone on the show. I wonder why Greg is there. One would think that he would have had a lot of people from his church trying to date him or fix him up with someone they know. 5 Link to comment
Soup333 July 3, 2019 Share July 3, 2019 On 7/1/2019 at 11:51 AM, aphroditewitch said: He is truly pathetic. His timeline is disgusting and so is he. I’m blocking him just so he never pops up again. Heather made the best decision. I can’t even imagine what misogynistic crap he unleashed on her during their short marriage. It would probably be in the experts,/show’s best interest to get someone to research the candidates’ social media accounts before they’re cast. 8 Link to comment
aphroditewitch July 3, 2019 Share July 3, 2019 23 minutes ago, Soup333 said: It would probably be in the experts,/show’s best interest to get someone to research the candidates’ social media accounts before they’re cast. They probably do check and cast someone with offensive posts because they are hoping for drama. The Bachelorette cast a guy with a history of racist tweets for Rachel Lindsay's season. https://jezebel.com/racist-tweets-from-current-bachelorette-contestant-have-1795703434 1 Link to comment
Happyfatchick July 13, 2019 Share July 13, 2019 On 6/26/2019 at 11:23 PM, Spectator said: ...the show hid all of that and portrayed Heather as a neurotic anti-cigarette loon. I think Heather definitely ranks up there with the top MAFS participants with unfair edits. I’m thinking it was the show’s not so subtle way of retaliating against her for quitting the show early. Derek was just nasty, there was that. I’m curious about Deonna. Seems to me like this chick has a much higher personal evaluation than the one I would give her. I don’t understand how or why Greg (is he Greg?) keeps chasing after her admiration. She’s cold as ice. 1 Link to comment
crazychicken July 13, 2019 Share July 13, 2019 Nick from Miami just posted that he was in a horrible life changing accident in January and has a long road still ahead. Link to comment
ShowFan July 13, 2019 Share July 13, 2019 47 minutes ago, crazychicken said: Nick from Miami just posted that he was in a horrible life changing accident Omg that’s awful! I hope his family are looking after his doggies 3 Link to comment
valdawn July 13, 2019 Share July 13, 2019 He wasn’t my favorite, but that is really sad. I wonder what happened exactly. 2 Link to comment
Booger666 July 13, 2019 Share July 13, 2019 (edited) What was Nick’s job? Hope he continues to improve. General request: This is the Spoiler thread. Posting links for people to click on doesn’t always work. If you post a link teasing a spoiler can you also please post a summary of the spoiler? Edited July 13, 2019 by Booger666 7 Link to comment
valdawn July 13, 2019 Share July 13, 2019 (edited) Edited to add: Maybe Tom was the yacht guy now that I researched a little. There really isn’t much info on Nick except an article from last year says he relocated to California and does real estate and Airbnb. He always wore shirts on the show advertising his business ( I can’t remember the name now) but I think it was something to do with yacht maintenance or something like that. Edited July 13, 2019 by valdawn Link to comment
wait.what July 13, 2019 Share July 13, 2019 Was Nick the one who slept with his mafs wife,but they kept it "secret"? After he and his mafs wife divorced he quickly married someone else and had kids right away? Or am I remembering wrong? 5 Link to comment
gonecrackers July 13, 2019 Share July 13, 2019 48 minutes ago, wait.what said: Was Nick the one who slept with his mafs wife,but they kept it "secret"? After he and his mafs wife divorced he quickly married someone else and had kids right away? Or am I remembering wrong? Yes that's him - not sure if he ever married the one he had twins with though... he said in the post she's "flying" to see him with one kid at a time since she "can't fly with both yet" - pretty sure that's what was said. So maybe they're not together or just separated right now while he's where he needs to be to recover. Link to comment
Kareem July 14, 2019 Share July 14, 2019 3 hours ago, wait.what said: Was Nick the one who slept with his mafs wife,but they kept it "secret"? After he and his mafs wife divorced he quickly married someone else and had kids right away? Or am I remembering wrong? There’s a story out there that she’s a love and relationship coach who was affiliated with the show and that he was seeing her while ‘working things out’ with Sonja. They had twins. 4 Link to comment
Yeah No July 14, 2019 Share July 14, 2019 Wow, that's some tough news about Nick. I never liked him but would never wish ill upon him either. I'm wondering if the reason he's being sketchy about what kind of job it was and took so long to go public with his injury is because he is receiving workers' comp. and has a settlement pending. I went through that a few years ago and the lawyers tell you not to talk to anyone about it from your old job or on your social media, etc. Depending on the situation he may also have a personal injury case going on as well so that's another reason. 6 Link to comment
Crazy Bird Lady July 15, 2019 Share July 15, 2019 So the newest twist (so far) is that all 4 couples will be living in adjacent apartments, so that everyone will know everyone else's business and will gossip about each other *more* than ever before. Did the "experts" decide to do this for the benefit of the 4 couples? 🤣 That's what they'll claim --but hell no!! It's all about creating more drama, which (of course) gets them more viewers. They don't give a damn about the participants. ☹️ 6 Link to comment
Gurkel July 15, 2019 Share July 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Crazy Bird Lady said: So the newest twist (so far) is that all 4 couples will be living in adjacent apartments, so that everyone will know everyone else's business and will gossip about each other *more* than ever before. Did the "experts" decide to do this for the benefit of the 4 couples? 🤣 That's what they'll claim --but hell no!! It's all about creating more drama, which (of course) gets them more viewers. They don't give a damn about the participants. ☹️ This will be like the married version of Big Brother. I wonder how they will spin it, though: camaraderie, support, blah, blah, blah. You don't have to live in the same apartment building to have that. Link to comment
princelina July 15, 2019 Share July 15, 2019 On 7/13/2019 at 5:52 PM, gonecrackers said: Yes that's him - not sure if he ever married the one he had twins with though... he said in the post she's "flying" to see him with one kid at a time since she "can't fly with both yet" - pretty sure that's what was said. So maybe they're not together or just separated right now while he's where he needs to be to recover. He just said she was bringing one at a time to visit since she can't travel with 2 - I took that to mean in the car, and I thought it seemed like they are together. Link to comment
gonecrackers July 15, 2019 Share July 15, 2019 1 hour ago, princelina said: He just said she was bringing one at a time to visit since she can't travel with 2 - I took that to mean in the car, and I thought it seemed like they are together. Yeah, thanks, he did say "bring", not fly... surprised they don't have more help so she can get to him with the kids. Link to comment
humbleopinion July 15, 2019 Share July 15, 2019 Betcha MAFS wishes Derek Schwartz would stop using his twit connecting him to the show.... https://www.marketwatch.com/story/president-donald-trump-labeled-as-racist-in-chief-after-his-latest-tweetstorm-2019-07-14 Link to comment
silverspoons July 16, 2019 Share July 16, 2019 14 hours ago, Crazy Bird Lady said: So the newest twist (so far) is that all 4 couples will be living in adjacent apartments, so that everyone will know everyone else's business and will gossip about each other *more* than ever before. Did the "experts" decide to do this for the benefit of the 4 couples? 🤣 That's what they'll claim --but hell no!! It's all about creating more drama, which (of course) gets them more viewers. They don't give a damn about the participants. ☹️ It is either to save money? or maybe it was too hard to find 4 airbnb rentals for 2 months in NC? This is the smallest city they have filmed in. It is much easier to find rentals in Large cities like Boston or Philly or Chicago since they have a higher demand for short terms rentals for people on business. I know I have when I rent a home we travel for medical care, it is easy in a big city like Phoenix , next to impossible in Salt Lake which I would consider closer to match to Charlotte. I do think living close together will be easier for some like Elizabeth, Amber and Keith and harder for others like Matt and Deonna. Link to comment
Elizzikra July 16, 2019 Share July 16, 2019 4 hours ago, silverspoons said: It is either to save money? or maybe it was too hard to find 4 airbnb rentals for 2 months in NC? This is the smallest city they have filmed in. It is much easier to find rentals in Large cities like Boston or Philly or Chicago since they have a higher demand for short terms rentals for people on business. I know I have when I rent a home we travel for medical care, it is easy in a big city like Phoenix , next to impossible in Salt Lake which I would consider closer to match to Charlotte. I do think living close together will be easier for some like Elizabeth, Amber and Keith and harder for others like Matt and Deonna. I don't know about airBNB - I didn't look, but Charlotte is a decent sized city with a large university (UNC-Charlotte). I can't imagine they couldn't find four rental properties for three months that would have sufficed. I'd rather they didn't put all four couples in the same building. I like seeing them interact occasionally but I think having them in such close proximity really continues the artificiality of the situation. It's unavoidable on the honeymoon - the avoiding real life - but I like seeing them get as close to their "normal" as soon as possible. 1 6 Link to comment
lids July 16, 2019 Share July 16, 2019 I figured they decided to put the couples in the same building because it saves on production time and cost. When they had to shoot each couple in each home throughout the city, the shooting schedule had to have spanned multiple days. At one point last season we saw Dr. Pepper counseling Kate on the phone while Dr.P ate dinner or something. The therapist don’t live in the cities the participants live in. They fly in for the shoot schedule. The crew must be driving for hours to get to each person’s house, especially when they live on opposite sides of the city. Then they have to set up cameras which takes an hour or so, then the counseling session. Then the individual pov reactions to the sessions. Then taking down the equipment. Then driving to the next location and doing it all over again. The therapists must be exhausted (as well as the crew). No wonder they look tired all the time. With them all in the same building, I imagine the shoot setup will be a lot easier. They may even try to use on nondescript apt for all the interviews. Regardless, there’ll be way less driving and scheduling conflicts. leading the therapists to be able to spend more time with the couples. And this may just be me, but, I live in an apartment building and I barely ever hang out with my neighbors. I don’t know why the couples would have to see each other. They may live on different floors and they go to work, so they may not even pass each other in the elevator. 5 Link to comment
Crazy Bird Lady July 16, 2019 Share July 16, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, lids said: I figured they decided to put the couples in the same building because it saves on production time and cost. ...With them all in the same building, I imagine the shoot setup will be a lot easier. And this may just be me, but, I live in an apartment building and I barely ever hang out with my neighbors. I don’t know why the couples would have to see each other. I do. The production crew and (yes) the "experts" will require them to get together on a regular basis since they're "neighbors and friends" with so many unique experiences in common (or some such). ☹️ Quote They may live on different floors and they go to work, so they may not even pass each other in the elevator. They will almost certainly be located in a block of 4 residences that are facing and/or adjacent to each other. I wonder if they will also be forced to go on a shared mini-moon, like the one A.J. objected to so very obnoxiously last time?? [Yes, A.J. was definitely out of line --but imho so was MAFS forcing all the couples to spend their vacations in the same house!] Edited July 16, 2019 by Crazy Bird Lady 2 Link to comment
Ilovepie July 16, 2019 Share July 16, 2019 31 minutes ago, Crazy Bird Lady said: I do. The production crew and (yes) the "experts" will require them to get together on a regular basis since they're "neighbors and friends" with so many unique experiences in common (or some such). ☹️ They will almost certainly be located in a block of 4 residences that are facing and/or adjacent to each other. I wonder if they will also be forced to go on a shared mini-moon, like the one A.J. objected to so very obnoxiously last time?? [Yes, A.J. was definitely out of line --but imho so was MAFS forcing all the couples to spend their vacations in the same house!] Yep. This exactly. It's just for more drama. These people ARE NOT FRIENDS. They might become so, but they also might not (Recall Jon's disdain for Ryan, and everyone's for Luke. I also can't see Dallas Amber hanging too much with Danielle). It's just going to create an environment where couples that are doing well will feel superior, and those that are struggling will wonder what is wrong with themselves (or their spouse). I'm sure the producers were remembering when Tristan threw out Mia, and thought "Imagine if the other couples would have been outside the door when he threw her suitcase in the hall....they could have comforted her/confronted him - TV Gold!".......or some such shit. No doubt Iris, Deonna and Elizabeth will be there for Amber when we see whatever Matt did that makes her cry so much in the previews, and we're going to have to see the guys asking Keith multiple times if he has deflowered Iris yet........blech........ 1 Link to comment
watchingtvaddict July 16, 2019 Share July 16, 2019 I think they might be following the Australian MAFS as the couples live in an apartment complex during shooting. I only watched one episode but the drama was crazy. And a few people were accused of cheating/flirting with husbands/wives so they're probably doing to up drama see if another couple has better chemistry AND to save on filming cost and time. 1 Link to comment
discoprincessthe2 July 17, 2019 Share July 17, 2019 (edited) . Edited July 17, 2019 by discoprincessthe2 Link to comment
discoprincessthe2 July 17, 2019 Share July 17, 2019 22 hours ago, Crazy Bird Lady said: I do. The production crew and (yes) the "experts" will require them to get together on a regular basis since they're "neighbors and friends" with so many unique experiences in common (or some such). ☹️ They will almost certainly be located in a block of 4 residences that are facing and/or adjacent to each other. I wonder if they will also be forced to go on a shared mini-moon, like the one A.J. objected to so very obnoxiously last time?? [Yes, A.J. was definitely out of line --but imho so was MAFS forcing all the couples to spend their vacations in the same house!] Speaking of AJ, he responded to this IG post in the comments section: Quote aj.voll That's much better than putting them all in the same 4 bedroom 2 bath single family dwelling in the for the "mini-moon" 😂😂😂😠. 3d112 likesReply 6 Link to comment
discoprincessthe2 July 17, 2019 Share July 17, 2019 (edited) 22 hours ago, Ilovepie said: Yep. This exactly. It's just for more drama. These people ARE NOT FRIENDS. They might become so, but they also might not (Recall Jon's disdain for Ryan, and everyone's for Luke. I also can't see Dallas Amber hanging too much with Danielle). It's just going to create an environment where couples that are doing well will feel superior, and those that are struggling will wonder what is wrong with themselves (or their spouse). I'm sure the producers were remembering when Tristan threw out Mia, and thought "Imagine if the other couples would have been outside the door when he threw her suitcase in the hall....they could have comforted her/confronted him - TV Gold!".......or some such shit. No doubt Iris, Deonna and Elizabeth will be there for Amber when we see whatever Matt did that makes her cry so much in the previews, and we're going to have to see the guys asking Keith multiple times if he has deflowered Iris yet........blech........ Kate could have used having Kristine (or maybe Jasmine) nearby to comfort her after dealing with Luke's BS. Kristine may have even wanted to tell Luke a thing or two. That's the only time I can think in recent memory that the spouses would have benefitted from living near each other. Side note: I don't think Jepthe cared much for Ryan from Boston either! Edited July 17, 2019 by discoprincessthe2 6 Link to comment
humbleopinion July 17, 2019 Share July 17, 2019 (edited) https://popculture.com/reality-tv/2019/07/17/married-at-first-sight-iris-keith-discuss-intimacy-concerns-virginity-reveal-exclusive-clip/ Cal: I'm not tripping about the sex...um, maybe Iris and Keith are...you so called "expert" I+K are matchy matchy like Greg and Deonna.... I like the brand new, clean, light grey couch...unlike the ugh couch Tristan was glued to ..... Edited July 17, 2019 by humbleopinion Link to comment
humbleopinion July 17, 2019 Share July 17, 2019 https://radaronline.com/videos/married-at-first-sight-iris-finds-condom-box-keith-room-fight-sneak-peek/ Have Iris count the number of condoms from his luggage and see if the number squares out to a full box plus the 3 left in the box.... Didn't he take the ones from the bowl in the honeymoon suite? Link to comment
discoprincessthe2 July 18, 2019 Share July 18, 2019 (edited) Edited to add: I heard about this, but I finally found the tweet: Amber, what are you doing?! 😮 Edited July 22, 2019 by discoprincessthe2 1 Link to comment
Lusterleaf July 25, 2019 Share July 25, 2019 Does anyone follow MAFSFan on Instagram? She posted a spoiler about Amber and Matt . 3 Link to comment
Soup333 July 25, 2019 Share July 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Lusterleaf said: Does anyone follow MAFSFan on Instagram? She posted a spoiler about Amber and Matt . Was it something that Helen Keller or Stevie Wonder could have seen coming? 8 3 Link to comment
Ilovepie July 25, 2019 Share July 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Soup333 said: Was it something that Helen Keller or Stevie Wonder could have seen coming? Ha Ha Ha! Yes it was. Since this is the spoiler forum, I will say that MAFSfan is saying they are dunzo. What I found more interesting trolling MAFSfan's IG was the information about Courtney and Jason. The assertion is that Courtney's timeline for leaving Jason and hooking up with the new man does not work according to Courtney's IG posts......and yes, I feel shame for spending this much time on these Z list basic cable people........... 3 2 Link to comment
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