MAFS Social Media, Spoilers & Speculation

[gingerandcloves]

23 hours ago, Ilovepie said:

Prepare yourselves: MAFSfan posted an Instagram story with photos of one of the couples together, and it’s not who you would think. Surprise, surprise- it’s Jamie and Beth. This should be interesting how we go from name calling and table flipping to a yes on D-day......

I wish I could say I was surprised, but I'm not. I think they are extremely toxic together, but some couples feed off of that drama and adrenaline. Will they make it long term? No way.

[Ilovepie]

1 hour ago, gingerandcloves said:

Will they make it long term? No way.

I completely agree. I just hope they pull the plug before it gets even worse. If familiarity breeds contempt, where does this leave them to go?!?

[discoprincessthe2]

22 hours ago, Retired at last said:

I still think that most of the couples will stay "married" on D-Day and then split at the reunion. It's 3 more months of pay and they really don't have to live together.

Does Beth really need the pay? Her daddy can always float some money her way. 😉

As for Matt, he may be able to use the pay, but what about housing? Even if Amber doesn't put Matt out, I doubt he'd want to move in with her in her own house. 

18 hours ago, Retired at last said:

It just seems that they ALL stay married at D-Day now, even though many of them say they want a divorce  at the Reunion, so I am just assuming they are getting paid for staying together at Decision Day, which really doesn't seem to be that anymore. And, yes, I know there are couples who know right way, but most of them stay married.

The Philly season bucked that trend. (Shoutout to Will and Kate!)

By the way, MAFS Fan's spoiler didn't surprise me. From the couple of times I've seen Jamie and Beth on Unfiltered, it sounded like they were still together (unlike Matt!)

Edited August 19, 2019 by discoprincessthe2

[Ohwell]

10 minutes ago, discoprincessthe2 said:

The Philly season bucked that trend. (Shoutout to Will and Kate!)

Yes, Kate got a backbone and Will didn't let Jasmine flip his switch.

[Liberty]

43 minutes ago, discoprincessthe2 said:

Does Beth really need the pay? Her daddy can always float some money her way. 😉

Additionally Daddy cannot be happy with the way Jamie has treated his precious/perfect daughter, which would hasten his opening of the vault. 

However once a business person understands they do not need to be together to fulfill contractual responsibilities, it also makes sense to collect a check while living separately.  We've seen several couples live separately before decision day, but appear together for the final episode.

What's Beth's big buck job, account executive?

Edited August 19, 2019 by Liberty
Clarity

[watchingtvaddict]

I wonder if Jamie and Beth will feed us some BS line about “the stress of filming” making their relationship seem so toxic ala Steph and AJ. Although it was clear at the time of filming AJ was mad at production not Steph. 

[Crazy Bird Lady]

1 hour ago, watchingtvaddict said:

I wonder if Jamie and Beth will feed us some BS line about “the stress of filming” making their relationship seem so toxic ala Steph and AJ. Although it was clear at the time of filming AJ was mad at production not Steph. 

...which is, I think, the reason that couple is still together. 

I never thought they should divorce on D-Day, personally, because there was obviously love between them and they enjoyed each other's company.

___________________________________________________________

But that was last season. 

Jamie & Beth, and Mat & Amber, should already have "opted out".  There is no "happily ever after" in the future for either of those couples.

[Empress1]

18 hours ago, Liberty said:

Additionally Daddy cannot be happy with the way Jamie has treated his precious/perfect daughter, which would hasten his opening of the vault. 

I know Elizabeth's relationship with her dad is creepy, but he'd be right to be upset about how Jamie has treated Elizabeth. No one who loves me would be cool with hearing that my husband had verbally abused me.

7 hours ago, Crazy Bird Lady said:

Jamie & Beth, and Mat & Amber, should already have "opted out".  There is no "happily ever after" in the future for either of those couples.

Agreed. It's like Kate and Luke. Kate should have walked when Luke said he was repulsed after they slept together. If the best you can hope for is "I'm no longer repulsed by you," you've already lost. If the best you can hope for is "He stopped staying out all night and leaving his ring behind" or "He stopped calling me a c*nt," you've already lost. As Boston Jonathan said, sometimes you've just gotta take the L.

[Crazy Bird Lady]

My predictions for tonght's show:

Iris's mother will be the big attraction, with her huge, friendly, frank personality. Keith will do his best to keep his distance from her (--because there are definitely some things he doesn't want to discuss in her presence)! But Iris's mother will prevail, and Iris's (other) "big secret" will be revealed.

[Cue "Hall of the Mad Mountain King" here:] 

Jamie & Elizabeth will have at least one huge fight, with lots of f-bombs and b-words c-words and maybe s-words. Then (of course) they'll have make-up sex, probably after "expert" intervention.

Greg will be happy around family, and Deonna might even get turned-on enough by that to permit sex again. 

Matt won't be able to come up with any close family members, and will most likely get into a fight with Amber's twin and/or other family members (which will probably be the only reason Amber declares they aren't having sex for a minute or two...)

Edited August 21, 2019 by Crazy Bird Lady
correct date

[humbleopinion]

Next Unfiltered will have Somber(Amber), TitsAhoy, and PastorUselessAdvice....

Cal will need a blindfold or  Liz a blanket to cover her mammeries for those 2 to be together for a studio panel....

[humbleopinion]

https://madamenoire.com/1095707/jephte-shawniece/

Look at Laura Deniece's hand on Kiki's paw, the matching yellow kicks, Jephte's new do...

If you don't say awww...we can't be friends...

[Kiss my mutt]

Well at least Beth was dressed this episode. 

[discoprincessthe2]

This tweet contains a link to an interview with Iris where she addresses the question of "sexual maturity".

[gonecrackers]

18 hours ago, humbleopinion said:

https://madamenoire.com/1095707/jephte-shawniece/

Look at Laura Deniece's hand on Kiki's paw, the matching yellow kicks, Jephte's new do...

If you don't say awww...we can't be friends...

Superficially, they're an adorable family.

Truly, the dog & baby are adorable.

But, Shawniece... from what I've read she gushes all over Jephte (who since he cheated on her while she was pregnant is pretty much dead to me) on SM but this is not reciprocated, unless it's about her being a mom. He's not in love with her & never really has been. He just wanted kids with one woman.

He'll walk as soon as he's done using her as a baby receptacle.

And he looks like shit without his dreads.

[Kiss my mutt]

I’m disappointed Beth didn’t run outside and step up to that bear. 

[Ohwell]

That bear would have taken one look at that flat ass and hightailed it into the woods. 

[ECM1231]

21 hours ago, humbleopinion said:

https://madamenoire.com/1095707/jephte-shawniece/

Look at Laura Deniece's hand on Kiki's paw, the matching yellow kicks, Jephte's new do...

If you don't say awww...we can't be friends...

Awww, how adorable is little Laura Deniece. I would not have recognized Jephte except for the context. He looks so different without his dreads.  Good for them for buying a house. Shawniece fought so hard for her marriage. I hope both of them are in a good place. 

[Liberty]

With too much time on my hands I did a google search and.....

OMG

Amber Bowles really does teach Language Arts at Community House Middle School. Shaping the values and grammar of the next generation.

I even had enough time to look at the pay schedules for teachers, and could not really find a Column/Step combination that Ms. Bowles would be eligible for that paid $80,000.  She must be getting a hefty stipend for being on the School Leadership Team.

I had thought she demonstrated too many behaviors that demonstrated she was not currently a teacher, but I was wrong 😣

Edited August 30, 2019 by Liberty

[Yeah No]

19 hours ago, discoprincessthe2 said:

This tweet contains a link to an interview with Iris where she addresses the question of "sexual maturity".

I read the interview, and Iris says absolutely nothing to convince me of her "sexual maturity" in it.  Like the audience, Keith isn't basing that opinion of her on her lack of sexual experience, but her entire attitude.  Even in this interview she says things to confirm that immature attitude.  She expects Keith to "break down her walls" by showering her with words of affirmation or whatever.  She sees herself as the princess in the tower that the valiant knight has to come rescue.  Barf, go back and watch your Disney movies little girl.  This man wants a grown up, not a Pygmalion project.

[GenY]

Btw, there have been a few teachers on this show including the cheater Jephte. 

[gonecrackers]

1 hour ago, GenY said:

Btw, there have been a few teachers on this show including the cheater Jephte. 

Yup, so true.  The only credit I'll give him is he expressed concern over Shawniece's lap dance because of being a teacher.

4 hours ago, Yeah No said:

I read the interview, and Iris says absolutely nothing to convince me of her "sexual maturity" in it.

She spoke of being uncomfortable expressing herself sexually with Keith, on camera, because of her work with kids, so I'll give her that one.

[lovetowrite73]

4 hours ago, Yeah No said:

I read the interview, and Iris says absolutely nothing to convince me of her "sexual maturity" in it.  Like the audience, Keith isn't basing that opinion of her on her lack of sexual experience, but her entire attitude.  Even in this interview she says things to confirm that immature attitude.  She expects Keith to "break down her walls" by showering her with words of affirmation or whatever.  She sees herself as the princess in the tower that the valiant knight has to come rescue.  Barf, go back and watch your Disney movies little girl.  This man wants a grown up, not a Pygmalion project.

She also said that basically he didn't romance her. We all have our love languages and when they aren't being spoken, the relationship goes nowhere.

[Liberty]

I have a question.

If Matt is out philandering how come the camera crew has not documented that?

[LillysPad]

2 minutes ago, Liberty said:

I have a question.

If Matt is out philandering how come the camera crew has not documented that?

I don't think there is a crew by them 24/7.

[Liberty]

1 hour ago, LillysPad said:

I don't think there is a crew by them 24/7.

I'm with you, not 24/7, but certainly in the evening and when they go out for events.  They seem to have a crew on duty when the couples go to bed at night.

Production seems to have an idea about Matt's alone time from his first event, and Poseur Cal certainly addressed his adventures.

Edited August 30, 2019 by Liberty

[LillysPad]

6 minutes ago, Liberty said:

Not 24/7, but certainly in the evening and when they go out for events.  They seem to have a crew on duty when the couples go to bed at night.

Production seems to have an idea about Matt's alone time from his first event, and Poseur Cal certainly address his adventures.

MAFS seems to run this program so different that other shows we watch. Not sure why.

[cinsays]

17 minutes ago, LillysPad said:

I don't think there is a crew by them 24/7.

if they can show Amber pacing the room while he is out wherever late at night, they can show where he is at that time if they want to.

[LillysPad]

1 minute ago, cinsays said:

if they can show Amber pacing the room while he is out wherever late at night, they can show where he is at that time if they want to.

I totally agree with you,  It would be nice if Raven pulls out a video for us next week. 

[gonecrackers]

16 minutes ago, cinsays said:

if they can show Amber pacing the room while he is out wherever late at night, they can show where he is at that time if they want to.

The apartments had cameras that could capture them whenever. The film crew isn't with them 24/7 & probably are human-like & even have to eat & sleep. 

I do think the couples get 'off' time, but it's not much. Matt's making the most of it of his nights sans cameras.

What I do wonder is, where are the cameras when Matt & Jamie don't come home during the day, or hours that they would normally film. Do they not have filming requirements or can the people just disappear for extended periods of time?  What's up with that, I wonder.

[Ilovepie]

8 hours ago, Yeah No said:

I read the interview, and Iris says absolutely nothing to convince me of her "sexual maturity" in it.  Like the audience, Keith isn't basing that opinion of her on her lack of sexual experience, but her entire attitude.  Even in this interview she says things to confirm that immature attitude.  She expects Keith to "break down her walls" by showering her with words of affirmation or whatever.  She sees herself as the princess in the tower that the valiant knight has to come rescue.  Barf, go back and watch your Disney movies little girl.  This man wants a grown up, not a Pygmalion project.

I didn't get that from this interview at all. I actually thought what she said was pretty thoughtful. She said that her role was to show Keith that she is open to building intimacy and his was to be vulnerable with her so she feels comfortable. She then says that he is not being vulnerable, nor is he sharing his thoughts or feelings which in turn makes her feel that he is not really in this. I think that's valid. Keith is handsome and he is laid back, but he is not putting forth much effort here other than being "patient", and the virgin story line has overshadowed the fact that he just hasn't been very honest with her.......

It also seems like Keith knew she didn't want to do the fishbowl game and dice game because they agreed off camera to keep that stuff private; so for him to then do a TH and call her immature was a betrayal of sorts. I wonder what the producers would have done if she had just straight up refused to play or had looked at the camera and said I think this should be private.  I absolutely think the producers on this show retaliate against participants who don't play along, and I'm not sure that would have benefited her either.

[Yeah No]

5 hours ago, Ilovepie said:

I didn't get that from this interview at all. I actually thought what she said was pretty thoughtful. She said that her role was to show Keith that she is open to building intimacy and his was to be vulnerable with her so she feels comfortable. She then says that he is not being vulnerable, nor is he sharing his thoughts or feelings which in turn makes her feel that he is not really in this. I think that's valid. Keith is handsome and he is laid back, but he is not putting forth much effort here other than being "patient", and the virgin story line has overshadowed the fact that he just hasn't been very honest with her.......

It also seems like Keith knew she didn't want to do the fishbowl game and dice game because they agreed off camera to keep that stuff private; so for him to then do a TH and call her immature was a betrayal of sorts. I wonder what the producers would have done if she had just straight up refused to play or had looked at the camera and said I think this should be private.  I absolutely think the producers on this show retaliate against participants who don't play along, and I'm not sure that would have benefited her either.

I think Iris is full of shit.  She wants everyone to think she is so mature and talks all this crap but it doesn't convince me, or Keith obviously.  What she says did not add up to me.  WTF has she done to show that she's open to intimacy?  Nothing - In fact she has done just the opposite.  By harping on being a virgin non-stop she has pretty much sent him in the opposite direction.  She is so overly attached to that image of herself she has made him feel like he could never "break down her walls".  He knows she's not ready for a mature relationship (let alone a sexual relationship) if she acts like that.  Why would he want to "romance" or share his innermost thoughts and feelings with someone he sees as a child?  And IMO she does act like one.  I see the same immaturity he does.  I wouldn't want to enter into a mature relationship with someone I didn't think was up to it either.  So I don't blame him.  He doesn't want to lead her on - To me that shows he has character.  He has sized her up and knows she's not for him.  So why belabor it?

As far as the fishbowl went, I think the way she acted about it was childish.  A mature person that just wanted to keep those things private wouldn't be acting like she did.  Danielle amd Bobby come to mind.  Danielle obviously was very uncomfortable doing the fish bowl exercise and didn't really participate.  But then again she didn't give off the impression that she was Tom Hanks in "Big" either.  Meanwhile I think Iris did.  And THAT is what Keith was reacting to, IMO.

[Elizzikra]

4 minutes ago, Yeah No said:

I think Iris is full of shit.  She wants everyone to think she is so mature and talks all this crap but it doesn't convince me, or Keith obviously.  What she says did not add up to me.  WTF has she done to show that she's open to intimacy?  Nothing - In fact she has done just the opposite.  By harping on being a virgin non-stop she has pretty much sent him in the opposite direction.  She is so overly attached to that image of herself she has made him feel like he could never "break down her walls".  He knows she's not ready for a mature relationship (let alone a sexual relationship) if she acts like that.  Why would he want to "romance" or share his innermost thoughts and feelings with someone he sees as a child?  And IMO she does act like one.  I see the same immaturity he does.  I wouldn't want to enter into a mature relationship with someone I didn't think was up to it either.  So I don't blame him.  He doesn't want to lead her on - To me that shows he has character.  He has sized her up and knows she's not for him.  So why belabor it?

As far as the fishbowl went, I think the way she acted about it was childish.  A mature person that just wanted to keep those things private wouldn't be acting like she did.  Danielle amd Bobby come to mind.  Danielle obviously was very uncomfortable doing the fish bowl exercise and didn't really participate.  But then again she didn't give off the impression that she was Tom Hanks in "Big" either.  Meanwhile I think Iris did.  And THAT is what Keith was reacting to, IMO.

Iris’s “secret” was what made me really question her ability to be intimate on a mature level. That was the perfect opportunity for her to be intimate but not sexual - and she completely missed it. 

After her conversation with Amber, I’m not sure Iris will ever be confident that someone is with her for who she is after she has sex with someone. She gives sex a lot of power and weight - like it’s the only thing men care about and if they want to have sex with her right away (or you know, ever) they aren’t interested in the “real Iris” - only sex. I think if she ever does marry someone and has sex with him, she is going to be forever plagued by wondering if they are staying with her for her or staying for sex. Which is a pretty antiquated view of both men and romantic relationships.

[Yeah No]

2 minutes ago, Elizzikra said:

Iris’s “secret” was what made me really question her ability to be intimate on a mature level. That was the perfect opportunity for her to be intimate but not sexual - and she completely missed it. 

Yes, that too!  And you know, I don't think that if it was just that she was uncomfortable talking about personal things on camera that Keith would be acting this way.  She could have confided more personal stuff to him when the cameras were off, but she most likely didn't or Keith wouldn't still be talking about her emotional immaturity.

5 minutes ago, Elizzikra said:

After her conversation with Amber, I’m not sure Iris will ever be confident that someone is with her for who she is after she has sex with someone. She gives sex a lot of power and weight - like it’s the only thing men care about and if they want to have sex with her right away (or you know, ever) they aren’t interested in the “real Iris” - only sex. I think if she ever does marry someone and has sex with him, she is going to be forever plagued by wondering if they are staying with her for her or staying for sex. Which is a pretty antiquated view of both men and romantic relationships.

Yes!  And she uses the virginity thing to avoid getting closer to Keith, so why do some people think it's his fault that they're not getting closer?  She won't LET him!  She doesn't just avoid sex that way, she avoids intimacy of any kind including emotional.  She is only going to push men away with that attitude.  SHE ends up being the one to reduce the entire relationship to sex by being obsessed with thinking the guy is only looking for sex.  And by doing that she sabotages the entire relationship.  It's like she keeps swinging this huge chastity belt in his face every time he tries to get closer, fearing that all he wants to do is get in her pants.  Meanwhile, that's HER paranoia.  He just wants to get closer to her as a person.  It's not all about sex for him, I am sure.  He seems like a more sophisticated and principled guy than that (unlike Matt).  So after weeks of having that shoved in his face every time, why is it any surprise that he gave up?

[Yeah No]

IMO, Iris is an "emotional relationship virgin" as much as a physical one.  She has obviously never been in a mature romantic relationship, so someone like Keith scares the living daylights out of her.   That's why she is doing her level best to keep him at an arm's length both emotionally and physically by throwing up blocks with her constant harping on her virginity.  I still think she is full of shit about showing Keith she is open to being vulnerable.  SHE is scared to death of being vulnerable to a man she fears is too much for her to handle in just about every way.  I don't think Keith should be expected to be her therapist to help her work through this, so I don't hold it against him that he doesn't want to sign on for that role.  Plus even if he tried what are his odds of success?  She has more issues than even Deonna, who is showing signs of being self-aware enough to know she has to get over some things, and is working toward that.  She at least has enough emotional maturity to be ready to do this work and to recognize that Greg is worth it.  Iris can't even begin to appreciate Keith.  He's way over her head and she's too busy projecting all her dysfunctional beliefs about men onto him.  She also thinks she is a lot of things she is NOT, which makes her pretty much impossible to work with at this point.  She has far more to work through than Deonna, IMO.

[Koalagirl]

According to my DVR, Deonna will be on Wednesday’s Unfiltered episode.  I think this is her first appearance.  At least we’re spared Amber’s and Elizabeth’s rompers.  Pastor Cal and Jamie (the husband) are also on.

[Ohwell]

Are the Unfiltered episodes filmed after Decision day?

[Crazy Bird Lady]

1 hour ago, Koalagirl said:

According to my DVR, Deonna will be on Wednesday’s Unfiltered episode.  I think this is her first appearance.  At least we’re spared Amber’s and Elizabeth’s rompers.  Pastor Cal and Jamie (the husband) are also on.

This should be interesting! 

And just maybe, Deonna will explain why she's never been on Unfliltered before, even though everyone else has.

[humbleopinion]

Do not blame the aqua and pink rompers...it's their tits and lady bits that do not need to be seen on teevee...albeit basic cable teevee...

[retired watcher]

On 8/30/2019 at 4:56 AM, Liberty said:

With too much time on my hands I did a google search and.....

OMG

Amber Bowles really does teach Language Arts at Community House Middle School. Shaping the values and grammar of the next generation.

I even had enough time to look at the pay schedules for teachers, and could not really find a Column/Step combination that Ms. Bowles would be eligible for that paid $80,000.  She must be getting a hefty stipend for being on the School Leadership Team.

I had thought she demonstrated too many behaviors that demonstrated she was not currently a teacher, but I was wrong 😣

You don't get paid extra for being on a leadership team. I was on my school's before I retired. More work, same pay.

On 8/30/2019 at 3:48 PM, LillysPad said:

I don't think there is a crew by them 24/7.

At one point Amber said Matt only comes home when the camera crew is there.

[retired watcher]

On 8/31/2019 at 11:24 AM, Crazy Bird Lady said:

This should be interesting! 

And just maybe, Deonna will explain why she's never been on Unfliltered before, even though everyone else has.

Afterbuzz speculated she hasn't been on because she is pregnant.

[nutella fitzgerald]

6 hours ago, retired watcher said:

Afterbuzz speculated she hasn't been on because she is pregnant.

I suppose they would know; wasn’t it an Afterbuzz podcaster who got knocked up by a MAFS divorcé a few seasons ago?

[Retired at last]

If Deonna is pregnant to the point that it is noticeable, there is no way she would be on the Unfiltered show before Decision day. They would want to save that for the Reunion like they did with Bobby and Danielle.

[humbleopinion]

https://popculture.com/reality-tv/2019/09/04/married-at-first-sight-jamie-beth-not-sexual-being-amid-decision-day-concerns-exclusive/

BougieRouge is not a sexual bean.....

CurledLip accuses his wife of not being sexual...maybe his vanilla bean ween doesn't inspire her.....

[discoprincessthe2]

He looked about as detached as Luke did last season. (Gah, I hate mentioning him again.) 

On a side note, is this Henry in the pic with Danielle Dodd? 🙂

[Elizzikra]

The DC season is, evidently, filming within walking distance of my house!!! The article doesn’t name the show but several comments in the discussion say that it is... keeping my eyes peeled!

https://www.arlnow.com/2019/09/05/223076/

[rungirl46]

[watchingtvaddict]

1 hour ago, rungirl46 said:

I love Deonna's smile. 

[Yeah No]

Quote

But Raven also applied to be on the show & to get #MarriedAtFirstSight too. He wouldn't have done that if he was in love with Amber. UNPOPULAR OPINION: Raven cares as a friend, but acting extra in front of cameras for dating clout going forward #mafs

I don't agree with this person that Raven couldn't still be in love with Amber and apply for the show.  If he's held the torch for her for many years and has "settled' for being her platonic friend he has probably given up on her by now and is actively trying to meet someone.  I was in a situation like that with a guy that was like a "Sheldon Cooper", which is why I wasn't interested in him romantically but if he was anything like Raven I would not have friend-zoned him.  I think it's sad that Amber can't see a nice guy like him in a romantic sense and yet gets pathetic and desperate over an asshole like Matt.  Issues, issues.  She needs therapy as much as Iris does.

[gonecrackers]

I'm not sure where the assumption came that Raven is, or ever was, in love with Amber.  We're seeing a lot of reasons why Amber has had trouble in relationships; many qualities guys would find problematic or even a total turn off.  To me when Raven looks at Amber it's with care, but also pity.

[Yeah No]

35 minutes ago, gonecrackers said:

I'm not sure where the assumption came that Raven is, or ever was, in love with Amber.  We're seeing a lot of reasons why Amber has had trouble in relationships; many qualities guys would find problematic or even a total turn off.  To me when Raven looks at Amber it's with care, but also pity.

We don't really know, and I wasn't assuming that, just saying that we can't assume that he isn't in love with her.  I can't tell by his body language one way or the other.  The pity he shows for Amber doesn't mean that he isn't in love with her either.  In my own personal experience I've never had a straight, single (unattached) platonic guy friend that wasn't at least at one time in love with me, especially when I was that young and attractive.  

P.S.  Beth's guy friend that spoke with Jamie seemed gay to me.

Edited September 6, 2019 by Yeah No