Season 22 Live Feed Discussion

[AryasMum]

6 minutes ago, choclatechip45 said:

I feel like the Tyler situation is different than Gina Marie, the latter had an eating disorder. Tyler just doesn't know how to cook vegan food. They are providing him with some vegan alternatives (vegan nuggets and vegan hot dogs, and I've seen plenty of vegetables). Ian couldn't cook either and Nicole begged people for scraps for him. To me it would be like if production provided Kaysar with his halal meat and didn't know how to cook it. Is that on production or Kaysar not knowing how to cook?  Also, don't they have multivitamins readily available for the houseguests?

As long as Tyler is getting beans, grains, nuts, and seeds as well, it’s probably a lack of how to combine them that’s holding him back. Adding flavoring and spices is challenging if you’ve never prepared them yourself. 

[choclatechip45]

4 minutes ago, AryasMum said:

As long as Tyler is getting beans, grains, nuts, and seeds as well, it’s probably a lack of how to combine them that’s holding him back. Adding flavoring and spices is challenging if you’ve never prepared them yourself. 

Fair, but is that productions fault? I hate production and Grodner, I just don't know if this is something I blame on them. They have a crockpot which should make it easier for all of them. Kaysar made a vegan soup his last night for Dani/Tyler and it looked super simple. Did Tyler ask him how to make it? I doubt it.

Edited September 30, 2020 by choclatechip45

[AryasMum]

Just now, choclatechip45 said:

Fair, but is that productions fault? I hate production and Grodner, I just don't know if this is something I blame on them. They have a crockpot which should make it easier for all of them.

I can’t say it’s exactly their fault, but they fell all over themselves to accommodate Jackson’s never ending food demands, and they’re already providing extras for Nicole. It’s truly not difficult to accommodate Tyler as well. 

[choclatechip45]

1 minute ago, AryasMum said:

I can’t say it’s exactly their fault, but they fell all over themselves to accommodate Jackson’s never ending food demands, and they’re already providing extras for Nicole. It’s truly not difficult to accommodate Tyler as well. 

I thought they stopped providing juices for Nicole. She spent three weeks complaining about it lol. I didn't watch last season what did they provide Jackson? 

 

They are always talking about foods they are asking for in the DR. Besides not providing Kaysar his meat at the beginning of the season (which wasn't right) I assumed they were getting most of the food they were requesting. 

[AryasMum]

10 minutes ago, choclatechip45 said:

I thought they stopped providing juices for Nicole. She spent three weeks complaining about it lol. I didn't watch last season what did they provide Jackson? 

 

They are always talking about foods they are asking for in the DR. Besides not providing Kaysar his meat at the beginning of the season (which wasn't right) I assumed they were getting most of the food they were requesting. 

I’m sure you’re right about Nicole. The problem may be in providing enough of what’s needed. As a vegetarian, I have a long history of  omnivores taking large portions of meat-free options and leaving the vegetarians with few options. For instance, I need tomatoes daily, as well as a few of other veggies. If I’m left only with the least popular veggies, I may struggle with how to combine them in a complete and flavorful way.  I’m more than happy to have a large salad daily, but I need my greens, legumes, tomatoes, other veggies, and seeds, as well as a salad dressing I like.  If I’m left with arugula, asparagus, Brussels sprouts, and black eyed peas, I’m going to struggle.  As tomatoes, onions, carrots, etc., are used by almost everyone, they need to be provided in large amounts.  Same with almond milk, avocados, etc. 

[CrazyDog]

1 hour ago, Nashville said:

Wart envy, maybe?

With some exceptions, that was seriously the most disgusting cast. I just have a visceral reaction of disgust towards McCrae. GAG.

I need brain bleach now. And no, I can't watch that video, lol. I made it 30 seconds.

Though I would actually try habanero ice cream, lol.

I guess regarding Tyler, production hasn't cared in the past about slop making them sick, or contestants having digestion issues, so I'm guessing they don't care much about what he's not eating. It's a little weird to me that *if* the HGs are aware of him being hungry, they could maybe offer some advice or something, or prompt him to eat more beans or carbs, or something. But again, I'm not watching, so I'm not clear if it's a known thing in the house. It's also odd to me that if Tyler/Angela had some concerns about him preparing food, they could have worked out some easy recipes for him. Were they counting on him getting some specific foods or something?

Even when I ate meat, I tended towards low ferritin, so it's something I do have to manage. If he's low on iron, that could definitely be affecting his moods and energy.

[choclatechip45]

4 minutes ago, AryasMum said:

I’m sure you’re right about Nicole. The problem may be in providing enough of what’s needed. As a vegetarian, I have a long history of  omnivores taking large portions of meat-free options and leaving the vegetarians with few options. For instance, I need tomatoes daily, as well as a few of other veggies. If I’m left only with the least popular veggies, I may struggle with how to combine them in a complete and flavorful way.  I’m more than happy to have a large salad daily, but I need my greens, legumes, tomatoes, other veggies, and seeds, as well as a salad dressing I like.  If I’m left with arugula, asparagus, Brussels sprouts, and black eyed peas, I’m going to struggle.  As tomatoes, onions, carrots, etc., are used by almost everyone, they need to be provided in large amounts.  Same with almond milk, avocados, etc. 

That's fair criticism. I know Dani complained about people taking the avocados and everyone is eating the vegan nuggets.

I remember Kaysar made a bunch of his meat and Ian was looking for dinner. Janelle told him to take the food out of the crockpot and Ian didn't want too because it was Kaysar's kosher meat. I thought that was super considerate of Ian. 

[Coco88]

Why, oh why, did they hint at the TE?  Watching these hamsters freak and scramble was going to be my source of joy on Thursday night.  Freaking production stinks!  

[choclatechip45]

1 minute ago, CrazyDog said:

With some exceptions, that was seriously the most disgusting cast. I just have a visceral reaction of disgust towards McCrae. GAG.

I need brain bleach now. And no, I can't watch that video, lol. I made it 30 seconds.

Though I would actually try habanero ice cream, lol.

I guess regarding Tyler, production hasn't cared in the past about slop making them sick, or contestants having digestion issues, so I'm guessing they don't care much about what he's not eating. It's a little weird to me that *if* the HGs are aware of him being hungry, they could maybe offer some advice or something, or prompt him to eat more beans or carbs, or something. But again, I'm not watching, so I'm not clear if it's a known thing in the house. It's also odd to me that if Tyler/Angela had some concerns about him preparing food, they could have worked out some easy recipes for him. Were they counting on him getting some specific foods or something?

Even when I ate meat, I tended towards low ferritin, so it's something I do have to manage. If he's low on iron, that could definitely be affecting his moods and energy.

It seems more hush hush. I do remember Tyler instructed Janelle how to cook the vegan taco filling and he was very happy how it turned out. 

Just now, Coco88 said:

Why, oh why, did they hint at the TE?  Watching these hamsters freak and scramble was going to be my source of joy on Thursday night.  Freaking production stinks!  

Dr Will appeared on a video and said think three steps ahead. 

[Growsonwalls]

I think Dani actually has some seriously disordered eating. I thought so on BB8 and think so now. For one, she seems to get very upset if people are enjoying food. She'll make snarky comments or snide expressions when she sees people eating. She won't join in on any communal eating activities. She will however want to hide wine and other alcoholic beverages for herself. She definitely seems to think enjoying food is a sign of weakness. For instance the meals she makes are usually plain rice with no seasoning and plain boiled vegetables. She'll make faces if people suggest seasoning. 

[CrazyDog]

3 hours ago, peachmangosteen said:

Sigh. And earlier, when I turned the feeds on for like 2 minutes before running away screaming because every single person blows, Enzo was telling Kevin he needed to go to Cody and promise he'll never nom him and that he (Kevin) will be a pawn for Cody all season. 

This combined with Production pretty much straight-up telling them about the TE just has me even more sure that I think they need to just cancel this show. It is 100% dead and the only way to save it, starting all over with a completely new Production team, is not possible. Just let it go, CBS!

It definitely needs an overhaul. For awhile, I think there was some fun to the the sameness of the seasons, but it's gone way beyond that now.

IMO, they not only need to (post-pandemic) mix up the casting, but the challenges and the weekly cadence. Mon - Thurs is dull.

Give them challenges in the house, food comps, make them compete for luxuries, anything to mix things up and keep them from laying around all the time. Have them partner up for random stuff to force new relationships.

I'm more interested in the eating habits of the various HGs than the (lack of) activities in the house today.

That being said, as usual, unless the ratings tank, they have little motivation to change.

Edited September 30, 2020 by CrazyDog

[HartofDixie]

1 hour ago, CrazyDog said:

With some exceptions, that was seriously the most disgusting cast. I just have a visceral reaction of disgust towards McCrae. GAG.

I need brain bleach now. And no, I can't watch that video, lol. I made it 30 seconds.

Though I would actually try habanero ice cream, lol.

I guess regarding Tyler, production hasn't cared in the past about slop making them sick, or contestants having digestion issues, so I'm guessing they don't care much about what he's not eating. It's a little weird to me that *if* the HGs are aware of him being hungry, they could maybe offer some advice or something, or prompt him to eat more beans or carbs, or something. But again, I'm not watching, so I'm not clear if it's a known thing in the house. It's also odd to me that if Tyler/Angela had some concerns about him preparing food, they could have worked out some easy recipes for him. Were they counting on him getting some specific foods or something?

Even when I ate meat, I tended towards low ferritin, so it's something I do have to manage. If he's low on iron, that could definitely be affecting his moods and energy.

I just checked her page and she has a vegan lobster roll. I think Tyler needs to catch up on learning to cook vegan. If he goes to jury I hope he has more food options or they get takeout.

 

[Callaphera]

HGs eating habits and nutrition: posts upon posts of discussion and speculation and information.
Actual game: three post, two of which say "this sucks", one that's full of cock-eyed optimism because their souls haven't been beaten to a pulp by Big Brother over the past 20 years.

THIS IS WHAT YOU DID, BIG BROTHER. WE USED TO SHARE RECIPES AND TALK ABOUT HOMEMADE MCGRIDDLES AND UNDERCOOKED PORK. NOW WE'RE DEBATING IF PEOPLE ARE TOO STUPID TO FEED THEMSELVES. 

[Michichick]

I was watching the feeds a bit ago. Memphis cut up some raw chicken and left it sitting out. He was just sitting there in the kitchen, hanging out while his chicken grew salmonella.

[ilovebeaarthur]

5 minutes ago, Michichick said:

I was watching the feeds a bit ago. Memphis cut up some raw chicken and left it sitting out. He was just sitting there in the kitchen, hanging out while his chicken grew salmonella.

Raven’s impact!

[Callaphera]

4 minutes ago, Michichick said:

I was watching the feeds a bit ago. Memphis cut up some raw chicken and left it sitting out. He was just sitting there in the kitchen, hanging out while his chicken grew salmonella.

Gratitude circle for salmonella! 

*pounds on the table and starts shouting*

2 hours ago, choclatechip45 said:

I didn't watch last season what did they provide Jackson? 

Watermelon. So. Much. Watermelon. Also there were some very expensive protein bars that he got boxes upon boxes upon boxes of when he won HoH. Like, enough that they made an entire pyramid of them like you would see in a grocery store display. But mainly the watermelon. He went through at least two a day. There was also speculation that they ended Have Nots super early because Jackson was sneaking food in the shower (he would duck down and then reappear looking like he was chewing) and because he got very very angry without his watermelon - there were rumours that it was because he was taking steroids and I think it was Xannies that he got illegally and went cold turkey off of before going in the Big Brother house.  But the watermelon. When Jackson won HoH, it was like a hidden object point-and-click game: how many watermelons can you find in this picture?

Jackson and his true love (hint: it wasn't Holly Beth or her cozy vagina)

 

[choclatechip45]

3 minutes ago, Callaphera said:

Gratitude circle for salmonella! 

*pounds on the table and starts shouting*

Watermelon. So. Much. Watermelon. Also there were some very expensive protein bars that he got boxes upon boxes upon boxes of when he won HoH. Like, enough that they made an entire pyramid of them like you would see in a grocery store display. But mainly the watermelon. He went through at least two a day. There was also speculation that they ended Have Nots super early because Jackson was sneaking food in the shower (he would duck down and then reappear looking like he was chewing) and because he got very very angry without his watermelon - there were rumours that it was because he was taking steroids and I think it was Xannies that he got illegally and went cold turkey off of before going in the Big Brother house.  But the watermelon. When Jackson won HoH, it was like a hidden object point-and-click game: how many watermelons can you find in this picture?

Jackson and his true love (hint: it wasn't Holly Beth or her cozy vagina)

 

Wow! Yeah that is ridiculous....

That reminds me that Adam from BB9 claims he got caught with Vicodin in the Big Brother House and had to detox. 

[30 Helens]

3 hours ago, AryasMum said:

I can’t say it’s exactly their fault, but they fell all over themselves to accommodate Jackson’s never ending food demands, and they’re already providing extras for Nicole. It’s truly not difficult to accommodate Tyler as well. 

Perhaps they need to have Angela provide Tyler’s meal kits, a la HelloFresh. He’d perk right up. Or, just put a copy of her cookbook in the house! He can cuddle with it when he isn’t using it for recipes.

12 hours ago, CrazyDog said:

And while I'd love to see Labor Day gone during the triple, I'm still annoyed that I'll be denied watching her, or maybe Dani, sulk on the block all week. Thanks 2020 BB.

x100.  More than anything, I’m looking forward to watching National Grouch Day (Oct. 15) stomp and rage around the house after going on the block. At least give me that, Show.

[Luckylondon]

2 hours ago, Growsonwalls said:

I think Dani actually has some seriously disordered eating. I thought so on BB8 and think so now. For one, she seems to get very upset if people are enjoying food. She'll make snarky comments or snide expressions when she sees people eating. She won't join in on any communal eating activities. She will however want to hide wine and other alcoholic beverages for herself. She definitely seems to think enjoying food is a sign of weakness. For instance the meals she makes are usually plain rice with no seasoning and plain boiled vegetables. She'll make faces if people suggest seasoning. 

Completely agree about Dani. Restriction can become dangerous and can spiral. I don’t know  if I started the narrative on Tyler being so hungry and may not know how to make vegan food well because I did say that and do think it is true, however it is not something the HG have specifically said. But connect the dots. It’s obvious to me, yet I recognize disordered eating easily. I don’t think it is as simple as Tyler not knowing vegan dishes, although I do think he is not that skilled at it yet, I do think Tyler has entered the mental struggle that occurs with the high of deprivation of food. His relationship with food is messed up right now on multiple fronts. That said though, he is a strong skilled player and is doing well at the game and is not in any definitive physical danger specifically. But the HGs did notice his weight loss and noted the DR having concerns about it to get medical involved. I think he is purposefully restricting, worries about eating the “right” vegan things, and that he also seems very hungry and not adept at creative vegan food preparation. To my eyes, all of that is happening and he also doesn’t want to let Angela down in any way. He is also locking in to a competitive zone and ready to win this. There was a shift in his energy after jury which started after that week that Bay/Day were on the block.

[Alice Mudgarden]

I posted this observation at the time, but I will never forget the shot of Jackson, sitting in the early morning darkness of the kitchen, holding a bowl and patiently waiting for his watermelon like a Victorian child waiting in line for a scoop of gruel.

If someone were to say "sum up BB21 in one picture" it would be that.

[30 Helens]

2 minutes ago, Alice Mudgarden said:

I posted this observation at the time, but I will never forget the shot of Jackson, sitting in the early morning darkness of the kitchen, holding a bowl and patiently waiting for his watermelon like a Victorian child waiting in line for a scoop of gruel.

If someone were to say "sum up BB21 in one picture" it would be that.

There was another reason I chose not to watch BB21, but now I have two.

[AryasMum]

36 minutes ago, Callaphera said:

Gratitude circle for salmonella! 

*pounds on the table and starts shouting*

Watermelon. So. Much. Watermelon. Also there were some very expensive protein bars that he got boxes upon boxes upon boxes of when he won HoH. Like, enough that they made an entire pyramid of them like you would see in a grocery store display. But mainly the watermelon. He went through at least two a day. There was also speculation that they ended Have Nots super early because Jackson was sneaking food in the shower (he would duck down and then reappear looking like he was chewing) and because he got very very angry without his watermelon - there were rumours that it was because he was taking steroids and I think it was Xannies that he got illegally and went cold turkey off of before going in the Big Brother house.  But the watermelon. When Jackson won HoH, it was like a hidden object point-and-click game: how many watermelons can you find in this picture?

Jackson and his true love (hint: it wasn't Holly Beth or her cozy vagina)

 

Didn’t Jackson also insist on some sort of peanut butter powder that had the protein, but not the fat?  I remember googling it because I’d never heard of it before. 

[Growsonwalls]

 

 

Edited September 30, 2020 by Growsonwalls

[BK1978]

13 hours ago, Callaphera said:

I'm not a steak eater, I like a chateaubriand cooked to a beautiful medium rare once or twice a year (the leftovers makes the best beef dips the second day), but I would take great pleasure in cooking a steak a day to keep Dani and her meat-free alternatives out of the kitchen. 

This post reminds me of what Robert Smith of The Cure said in regards to his hatred of Morrissey, "If Morrissey says not to eat meat, then I’m going to eat meat; that’s how much I hate Morrissey." 

6 hours ago, Growsonwalls said:

Here;s the thing on food restrictions. I think of it like religion -- I'll respect anyone's choices for their diet, but please don't tell me that I have to follow YOUR diet choices. Angela is making it seem like any non-vegan option is amoral. I don't like that.

 

That's how I feel about most most things.  I hate when I am told I am amoral because I do not agree with some fanatic's view of the world. 

I think I mentioned the hipster I used to work with.  He would always go on and on about the virtues of pot and acid.  Which if you want to do that, I am perfectly fine.  But don't lecture me because I do not want to do it because there is a serious case history of addiction in my family and I do not want to join that list.  That is just one example of the many times I have run into a situation like that where people think their world view is morally superior.

1 hour ago, CrazyDog said:

It definitely needs an overhaul. For awhile, I think there was some fun to the the sameness of the seasons, but it's gone way beyond that now.

IMO, they not only need to (post-pandemic) mix up the casting, but the challenges and the weekly cadence. Mon - Thurs is dull.

Give them challenges in the house, food comps, make them compete for luxuries, anything to mix things up and keep them from laying around all the time. Have them partner up for random stuff to force new relationships.

I'm more interested in the eating habits of the various HGs than the (lack of) activities in the house today.

That being said, as usual, unless the ratings tank, they have little motivation to change.

I've said it before, but that is why I enjoyed BBCan.  Granted I have not watched a season since Kevin Martin won, but they would do little things to screw with the players, usually via Marsha the Moose (Which is a talking moose head), and that always made the game fun to watch.

[Callaphera]

12 minutes ago, AryasMum said:

Didn’t Jackson also insist on some sort of peanut butter powder that had the protein, but not the fat?  I remember googling it because I’d never heard of it before. 

Yup. They told Jackson that he could only have it when he was HoH, he pitched a fit, and it magically appeared in the storage room two days later when he wasn't HoH. It might have come out of his stipend but probably not because it was Jackson. I believe that was a one-off request, though. Whether because it lasted the whole season or because he saw a pretty watermelon on the counter, I can't remember. 

Edited September 30, 2020 by Callaphera

[Nashville]

3 hours ago, CrazyDog said:

With some exceptions, that was seriously the most disgusting cast. I just have a visceral reaction of disgust towards McCrae. GAG.

I need brain bleach now.

Sorry; Zuckerman and Aryan used the last of the bleach on their anuses.

(True story - unfortunately)

🤢🤮

[Tuxcat]

They were expecting a fast forward and an eviction tonight.  They got their hopes up for something to happen and then nothing. Which is pretty funny. Enzo thinks tomorrow will be like Thursday. Memphis and Cody  think there is no double this week but maybe two fast forwards next week.

I can't figure out Enzo. I think he's campaigning in an Enzoey way to keep Kevin -- he's pissed David won money. Doesn't want him to get to final 5 and get the pay hike. 

It's possible he's just testing the waters to see how Memphis responds to this idea.

Memphis, Cody and Enzo are talking about how lost David is and how great a player Kevin is -- and for some reason they sort of think they owe it to Kevin.  Talking about how David only came back to this game for followers and other things. Cody said that's not cool. You should come for the game. He doesn't have respect for David. Circular logic talk...   Weirdly Memphis now pulling for David to stay...  

Hmmmm- maybe this was a way of Cody and Enzo convincing Memphis to go for the HOH Thursday - in order to get David out next. If so, it worked. Memphis is cool with this idea. And maybe that's a way to make Memphis vulnerable. 

One thing is clear - They're not expecting a triple so hold out hope that this all still shocks them. But I will hate it if feeds are down Thursday night because we will miss the only drama of the season.

 

 

 

[30 Helens]

3 minutes ago, Tuxcat said:

One thing is clear - They're not expecting a triple so hold out hope that this all still shocks them. But I will hate it if feeds are down Thursday night because we will miss the only drama of the season.

They’ve kept feeds from us every Thursday so far; I wouldn’t hold my breath for a change now.

I heard Memphis say it’s his mission to get David out before F5, because no way is he getting any more money. They’re still pissed about the 10k. (Yet nobody’s ever been mad about Xmas and her 5k)

I think they thought the “3 steps” meant a comp today because Tues/Wed/Thurs= 3 steps, meaning today was step one? All I know is, nothing was spoiled. These guys don’t have a clue.

[Tuxcat]

27 minutes ago, 30 Helens said:

They’ve kept feeds from us every Thursday so far; I wouldn’t hold my breath for a change now.

I heard Memphis say it’s his mission to get David out before F5, because no way is he getting any more money. They’re still pissed about the 10k. (Yet nobody’s ever been mad about Xmas and her 5k)

I think they thought the “3 steps” meant a comp today because Tues/Wed/Thurs= 3 steps, meaning today was step one? All I know is, nothing was spoiled. These guys don’t have a clue.

Every Thursday except for the wall. They eventually let us see that. A lot of people are going to be upset if they don't show the aftermath this week. I think the only person who really might link the clue to a possible triple is Tyler. 

[ByaNose]

27 minutes ago, 30 Helens said:

They’ve kept feeds from us every Thursday so far; I wouldn’t hold my breath for a change now.

I heard Memphis say it’s his mission to get David out before F5, because no way is he getting any more money. They’re still pissed about the 10k. (Yet nobody’s ever been mad about Xmas and her 5k)

I think they thought the “3 steps” meant a comp today because Tues/Wed/Thurs= 3 steps, meaning today was step one? All I know is, nothing was spoiled. These guys don’t have a clue.

I’ve been catching updates from various podcasters and reading the boards so I wasn’t sure or not if they were spoiled. It sounds like they don’t really have a clear idea. Also, I doubt they know it’s two hours on Thursday. I’m sure production always has them on the couch at air time but I doubt they would tell them it’s for 2 hours. I feel a little better now. I wanted some suspense oh Thursday. Thanks for the update. 

[Tuxcat]

Actually Christmas and Memphis just guessed a triple but decided that wasn't it because it would be dumb... LOL

[30 Helens]

2 minutes ago, Tuxcat said:

Actually Christmas and Memphis just guessed a triple but decided that wasn't it because it would be dumb... LOL

Oh, yeah? That’s hilarious. 

They’re talking about movie theater food in the kitchen. Nicole stops at theaters to buy popcorn to take home. Enzo stuffs his pockets with candy and sandwiches to sneak in. Tyler and Angela sneak in a bottle of wine and glasses. I’ve done that, but the wine is prepoured into screwtop water bottles because I have no class.

[CrazyDog]

1 hour ago, Nashville said:

Sorry; Zuckerman and Aryan used the last of the bleach on their anuses.

(True story - unfortunately)

🤢🤮

Oh, damn it, Nashville. WHY. lol

[Callaphera]

BB15 really was the top of the trash heap.

[Summerday]

I can't believe they basically told them it's a triple eviction...wtf? Are they trying to kill their own show? Are they just stupid? I don't get it.

Weren't those Tyler and Angela's exact words to Brett in BB20 when they blindsided him in the double eviction? Something about Angela was one step ahead and Tyler was two steps ahead of Brett. Maybe they wanted to telegraph to Tyler that it's a triple eviction and they thought everyone else would be too dumb to get it...idk lol.

[mertensia]

7 hours ago, AryasMum said:

As long as Tyler is getting beans, grains, nuts, and seeds as well, it’s probably a lack of how to combine them that’s holding him back. Adding flavoring and spices is challenging if you’ve never prepared them yourself. 

If he's not taking multi vitamins he's not getting enough B12. I'm not sure how a deficiency would make him feel or act.

[Christina]

I'm not sure when it started, but around 1:15 a.m. BBT on Cameras 1/2, Enzo told Kevin a story about is father's immigration from Italy and how he didn't speak the language and wasn't treated well, but worked his ass off. It was a nice story about his father.

[Brian Cronin]

6 minutes ago, Christina said:

I'm not sure when it started, but around 1:15 a.m. BBT on Cameras 1/2, Enzo told Kevin a story about is father's immigration from Italy and how he didn't speak the language and wasn't treated well, but worked his ass off. It was a nice story about his father.

His dad passed away, right? Was he alive when Enzo was on BB12?

[30 Helens]

46 minutes ago, Brian Cronin said:

His dad passed away, right? Was he alive when Enzo was on BB12?

His dad passed away 4 years ago, at the age of 61, from leukemia. I heard him tell Kevin about his dad and I agree, it was a nice story. He said his dad immigrated from Italy and was very smart but also shy because of his thick accent. He made his living flipping houses and the family would live in the house while he worked on it. Enzo always hated the houses they moved to because they were ugly, but when it came time to leave, he didn’t want to go because it was beautiful. 

He and Kevin had a really nice conversation about their lives, their experiences playing BB and what it was like to return (Kevin couldn’t believe they asked a potato like him back) and what they’d do with the money if they won (Enzo wants to travel with his kids. It was the idea of having the money to do something like that, something no one in his family has ever had the means to do, that led to the story about his father.) Kevin is thinking of moving to LA. Apparently he is still close to Lydia and visits her in LA often. He used to be a Jehovah’s Witness but is no longer. He talked about a friend who died of leukemia and wasn’t able to be treated for it because you can’t have medicine in JW. 

When I first tuned in to the conversation, he and Enzo were talking about some deal Kevin has offered to all the remaining players. I didn’t catch it all, but I think Kevin has offered to be a professional pawn, someone they can put up every week beside whoever they want to get rid of, and he will cooperate willingly, without drama. I’m not sure how that benefits anyone, because they’ve already been doing that. But he knows there’s really nothing he can do. I feel bad for him. I know he hasn’t been the greatest player this season, but he seems like a genuinely nice person and I wish he had had a better experience.

[Christina]

17 minutes ago, 30 Helens said:

He used to be a Jehovah’s Witness but is no longer. He talked about a friend who died of leukemia and wasn’t able to be treated for it because you can’t have medicine in JW. 

I'm going to make a slight correction to this point, because I have a lot of family who are JW and this is often confused with Christian Scientists who do not believe in medical treatment. JW do not believe in blood transfers and Kevin specifically said his friend refused the blood transfusion. He would be allowed to take the chemo, etc. as a JW. There have been some non-blood products being created and tested, but I'm not sure where those stand.

In my specific family, there have been times when blood was necessary and permission was ultimately granted. In one, my aunt had lost a lot of blood during childbirth and her husband signed for it. She is not penalized by the faith for it, but someone else who gave permission for a blood transfusion for herself was ostracized from some of the other members of her Kingdom Hall.

In another case, the baby needed blood but the parents refused and since the doctor said that blood would 98% keep him from dying, a social worker filed something in front of a judge and the treating physician and two other doctors all testified that the baby would 100% die without it but only be subject to the 2% chance of poor side affects that all people are subject to. The judge signed an order for the hospital to provide the blood and the CPS claim that was opened just for the issue was closed with no further action.

It turns out this is the normal procedure to deal with the issue when children are involved, and at that point, the parents are not punished in any way by other JWs because the decision was removed from them. These types of cases, along with medical treatment regarding Christian Scientists, have been appealed as having their parental rights infringed upon and always ultimately lose. The threshold for the parental decisions to be overruled by a judge is really high, though, like my cousin absolutely dying without it and the chances of living are clear.  In my cousin's case, they are actually relieved that the decision was taken away from them because their son is thriving and they think God's will was ultimately made.

[himela]

Taran said that them knowing that it may be a triple eviction could bring some drama in the house before Thursday and that is something that could become interesting although we will lose that "oh my God!" segment after they hear it's a triple on Thursday. So Taran is actually saying that they know that it's a triple.

[Lamb18]

9 hours ago, Michichick said:

I was watching the feeds a bit ago. Memphis cut up some raw chicken and left it sitting out. He was just sitting there in the kitchen, hanging out while his chicken grew salmonella.

 

9 hours ago, ilovebeaarthur said:

Raven’s impact!

Well his name of the day yesterday was Raven Hill, TN.

[luvbadtv]

7 hours ago, Tuxcat said:

Memphis, Cody and Enzo are talking about how lost David is and how great a player Kevin is -- and for some reason they sort of think they owe it to Kevin.  Talking about how David only came back to this game for followers and other things. Cody said that's not cool. You should come for the game. He doesn't have respect for David. Circular logic talk...   Weirdly Memphis now pulling for David to stay... 

I just saw a quote from Cody saying that he acts dumb in his DRs in order to get more followers.  Hmm, who came back for followers?

[Ananayel]

9 hours ago, BK1978 said:

Give them challenges in the house, food comps, make them compete for luxuries, anything to mix things up and keep them from laying around all the time. Have them partner up for random stuff to force new relationships.

They used to do this! I was talking with a coworker about how to stop this "first HOH forms a massive alliance and no one ever goes against it" nonsense. We came up with the following:

HGs are put into alliances by secret random draw (can't trust that to viewers or production.) No bigger than 4. No HOH for the first show, America picks the two noms (could be restricted to feedsters to motivate people to sign up and prevent editing shenanigans.) After that, normal HOH etc. The secret alliances continue through week 4, the one which kept the most of their members wins something. They dissolve, and now they either have to play for themselves, continue with the alliance they had, or try to make new ones with people they may have been working against thus far. This way, it prevents all the jocks and pretty people running everything from jump. People have to work with people they wouldn't have given a chance otherwise. Or they'll be very unhappy, and try to cause problems, which brings the drama. If anyone blabs about their secret alliance to anyone outside it, they are an automatic nom. Also, get rid of Grodner and Kass.

[peachmangosteen]

14 hours ago, choclatechip45 said:

Also, don't they have multivitamins readily available for the houseguests?

They do.

13 hours ago, choclatechip45 said:

They have a crockpot which should make it easier for all of them. 

They have a crockpot now?! That's awesome. I've never seen them use it though lol. 

13 hours ago, choclatechip45 said:

I thought they stopped providing juices for Nicole. She spent three weeks complaining about it lol.

Yea, they did. For a minute she was making her own orange juice but she's given up because she's too lazy to do it.

11 hours ago, HartofDixie said:

If he goes to jury I hope he has more food options or they get takeout.

They normally get a chef in jury, but I don't know if they'll do that this year with covid.

10 hours ago, 30 Helens said:

Or, just put a copy of her cookbook in the house!

I think they should give them a couple cookbooks. I don't understand why they don't. There's no outside info in a cookbook lol. 

9 hours ago, 30 Helens said:

All I know is, nothing was spoiled. These guys don’t have a clue.

They do though. They know something different is happening and that alone means they're on alert and won't be truly surprised on Thursday. The least Production could do now is not tell them it's a TE before the first eviction or the second. They need to let them believe it's a normal double right up until the end of the second eviction. But since Production is completely incompetent I expect them to open the live show by telling them it's a TE.

32 minutes ago, Ananayel said:

Also, get rid of Grodner and Kass.

This needs to be the first thing that happens in order to save the show but it won't happen so the show will never be saved. It'll just continue to be the same boring, offensive shit year after year until the ratings become so bad they get rid of it.

[Tuxcat]

Do the jury members get to see ALL their good bye messages? On the show, some of them are not shown.

Memphis said something yesterday about his goodbye messages and was under the impression his would help smooth things over -- I can't remember who or what he was talking about but it occurred to me that his messages may not be shown if edited out?

 

 

[Lamb18]

Bean Station, TN (Memphis) was up for a few minutes, but went back to bed. David's not even up yet. He must have had a late night.

48 minutes ago, Tuxcat said:

Do the jury members get to see ALL their good bye messages? On the show, some of them are not shown.

Memphis said something yesterday about his goodbye messages and was under the impression his would help smooth things over -- I can't remember who or what he was talking about but it occurred to me that his messages may not be shown if edited out?

 

 

I believe they see the ones not shown on the show in the jury house.

Edited September 30, 2020 by Lamb18

[MitaJo]

20 hours ago, Growsonwalls said:

(Dani used to get morally offended she was cooking meat and veggie meals in the same kitchen.

What did she expect the non-vegans to do for food? Kevin needs to tell her that the world doesn't revolve around her now.

Also, I've been wanting to ask. Why don't they give them a grill anymore? I remember specifically in season 11, Jeff was always grilling. 

[Tuxcat]

7 hours ago, Summerday said:

Weren't those Tyler and Angela's exact words to Brett in BB20 when they blindsided him in the double eviction? Something about Angela was one step ahead and Tyler was two steps ahead of Brett. Maybe they wanted to telegraph to Tyler that it's a triple eviction and they thought everyone else would be too dumb to get it...idk lol.

Yeah she named her move and said "I call this being one step ahead."  Tyler is most likely to get the reference.bThe other HG have all tossed around scenarios. Most of them were already expecting a double this week. Even before the clue, they already suspected something would happen since too many HG and too few weeks. Last night, a lot of them thought they were in a speed week and then they were all disappointed when nothing happened.  I agree, they haven't figured it out but the clue is definitely lessening any possible shock value for Thursday. However given that this cast isn't all that dramatic, the clue at least promoted some conversation/speculation this week. They probably wouldn't have been all that shocked regardless.

Something else might be happening too - maybe--  the safety suite aka basement is now turned into the neighbors house - maybe there is something in addition to a triple -. Of course, probably not given these lazy production people

[Alice Mudgarden]

Kevin's biggest issue this season was how his need to be accepted by the "cool kids" clouded all other judgment. You can see glimmers of the player from BB11 sometimes, moreso recently, with some of his reads and observations. I think once he let go of whatever was in his head about his popularity with the others, his game brain started to come back a little. The problem is that it happened too late.

Also, he'd probably be shocked to see that people like me were most excited to see him back over a lot of the others. I wish he could let go of the insecurities that are holding him back; it may surprise him just how liked and accepted he really is/could be.