"The View": Week of 6/22/2020

[Rainyhawk]

Was the Hamilton question the best one MM could come up with for John Bolton given all the stuff in his book about the administration?  Did she think that what we all  care most about, with respect to his information,  is whether or not he understands that Hamilton fans are upset with the title?  Really...this from a “pundint ”?

[bannana]

She's getting mocked a bit for asking that question.

https://theweek.com/speedreads/921907/meghan-mccain-tells-john-bolton-book-title-insulting-hamilton-fans

[Kayz Opinion]

6 hours ago, lusinia said:

Who's Tom?  And Whoopie talking about his "Great White Way" comment at the end of that segment was so odd and out of nowhere.

From the 'net: Tom Leonardis. For the past 23 years, Leonardis has been Whoopi Goldberg's business partner on every front. Leonardis president of Goldberg's overall company, Whoop, Inc. and acts as Executive Producer and head of development for their company One Hoe Productions.

From me:  That "overall company" is not her fashion line.

It's amazing that the sophisticated, educated world traveler, Ms. McCain, has never heard of "The Great White Way."

 

Edited June 24, 2020 by Kayz Opinion

[Kayz Opinion]

I thought Sunny asked interesting, probing questions of John Bolton--the same ones a couple of times.  I don't think she listened to the answers because her mind is made up...on all aspects of his book, his tenure, his responsibilities as she defines them, his politics, and his mustache. 

I think he fought the good fight and defended himself well and politely.

[TheGreenKnight]

5 hours ago, bannana said:

She's getting mocked a bit for asking that question.

https://theweek.com/speedreads/921907/meghan-mccain-tells-john-bolton-book-title-insulting-hamilton-fans

Glad to know I wasn't the only one who thought it was laughably superfluous for McCain to feign offense over the use of Hamilton lyrics for the title of his book. We know she hates all celebrities, so no way does she give a crap about Lin-Manuel Miranda anyway.

[RealHousewife]

12 hours ago, choclatechip45 said:

The Bolton interview was the best interview The View has done in a long time.

Totally agreed. More interviews like this one please!

[bannana]

Random thoughts:

• Joy was saying we need to change language, giving examples like blackmail, blacklisted, black sheep (there are others, e.g., black balled). Whoopi's reply was kind of brilliant, saying that the words don't need to change, cause there is nothing wrong with black cats, black sheep or black people.  It was a quick reply before they went to break I think, but it was perfect.  Every now and then, she is awesome.
• MeAgain's comments on the Bubba topic, re the fact that the noose was deemed by the FBI to not be a hate crime. Sunny lays out the facts and points out that it was NASCAR who notified Bubba about the noose.  So her point was this has nothing to do with Bubba in that he did not accuse anyone, he was told.  What they didn't discuss was the backlash on social media, where he was being called Bubba Smollett.  But when MeAgain weighs in, she says something bizarre, about how people are on .both sides of this issue.  WTF?  There are no sides to this issue.  Either way, Bubba was a victim. First he was told about the noose being there, second, people are now suggesting he is complicit with it being there. It doesn't matter if it was there since 2019 (or 2016 as MeAgain incorrectly said).  She missed this entirely and made it into a "people are going to come down on different sides on this" because "these are heightened times".  There are no sides in this story.  She's an idiot.

[Haleth]

Yikes, I see what you all mean about Sunny’s makeup. For a beautiful woman she looks terrible.

Meg is not an identity politics person? Since when?  Her whole identity is wrapped up in her party.

Geez, Meg, do you really not know what Europe did right that we aren’t?  Let’s start with enforcing a national policy of quarantine instead of punting to the states for a piecemeal response. 

Edited June 25, 2020 by Haleth

[MeThinkMeNot]

Meghan says that she's less into identity politics than the other hosts.....

[ifionlyknew]

Meghan says she is less identity politics than the other women. Who is she trying to kid? She starts every sentence with as a Republican.

[lusinia]

WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!

"I'm less an identity politics person than I think the rest of the hosts on this show".

I've never been more shocked by something Meghan's said.  Truly.

And what does more women in politics have to do with it?  The others were just saying Biden's doing the smart thing.

[ifionlyknew]

One of my very best friends is a health care worker in California.  She recently tested positive. Thankfully asymptomatic and is now testing negative.  You know where she thinks she contracted the virus? Home Depot.  She is an avid gardener and needed some things. She wore a mask but said many shoppers were not. Whoopi is exactly right. This is a health issue not a political issue.

[lusinia]

Meghan just randomly mentions Hawaii.  And she not mad anymore about being in quarantine, apparently.  I guess seeing what's now happening in the states that reopened without following any guidelines has changed her mind.

Is Meghan pretending she's in NYC again?  Or maybe she's back.

[lusinia]

Are they saying it's going to be Tammy Baldwin?  I haven't seen that anywhere.

[tinkerbell]

17 minutes ago, ifionlyknew said:

One of my very best friends is a health care worker in California.  She recently tested positive. Thankfully asymptomatic and is now testing negative.  You know where she thinks she contracted the virus? Home Depot.  She is an avid gardener and needed some things. She wore a mask but said many shoppers were not. Whoopi is exactly right. This is a health issue not a political issue.

And in Illinois, I was at Home Depot and EVERY employee and customer had masks on. Because it's the rule. And in Illinois, covid 19 cases are going down, because masks are required in public places, and businesses were delayed in opening up.

[Haleth]

6 minutes ago, tinkerbell said:

And in Illinois, I was at Home Depot and EVERY employee and customer had masks on. Because it's the rule. And in Illinois, covid 19 cases are going down, because masks are required in public places, and businesses were delayed in opening up.

You’re lucky. Here next door in IN I’m often the only person in the store* (aside from employees) wearing a mask. Stupid people. Cases are still going down but it’s not license to be reckless.

*I’ve only been to the grocery store and Lowe’s a handful of times. 

Edited June 25, 2020 by Haleth

[MeThinkMeNot]

What were they saying at the end? Before the washing your hands & wearing your masks bit.

[ifionlyknew]

14 minutes ago, Haleth said:

You’re lucky. Here next door in IN I’m often the only person in the store* (aside from employees) wearing a mask. Stupid people. Cases are still going down but it’s not license to be reckless.

*I’ve only been to the grocery store and Lowe’s a handful of times. 

Meanwhile here in West Virginia our cases have been low compared to other states. However some our residents thought it would be a good idea to go on vacation in Myrtle Beach and instead of bringing back souvenirs they brought back the virus. So now some summer sports for kids which had been allowed to start are now cancelled.

Meghan is content to continue quarantining? She must have finally gotten her crib. Or someone close to her has covid so it's real to her now.

[BuckeyeLou]

19 minutes ago, Haleth said:

You’re lucky. Here next door in IN I’m often the only person in the store* (aside from employees) wearing a mask. Stupid people. Cases are still going down but it’s not license to be reckless.

*I’ve only been to the grocery store and Lowe’s a handful of times. 

I'm here in IN too...I was at the Mall over the weekend(I know, a crazy thing to do!), and very few people were wearing masks!  Gads, are people Not listening to what is happening?!  Or they just don't care?

[Haleth]

12 minutes ago, BuckeyeLou said:

Gads, are people Not listening to what is happening?!  Or they just don't

They are listening to the wrong person. 

[Kayz Opinion]

4 hours ago, lusinia said:

"I'm less an identity politics person than I think the rest of the hosts on this show".

What part of "Ride or Die Republican" is NOT identity politics?

 

[tinkerbell]

4 hours ago, lusinia said:

WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!

"I'm less an identity politics person than I think the rest of the hosts on this show".

I've never been more shocked by something Meghan's said.  Truly.

this is the same MEghan McCain who ALWAYS brings up if something happened in a blue state or a red state (ignoring the fact that NO state is 100% either way) .  she is the one who prefaces statements with "as a conservative",  and says to a guest ,"you and I disagree politically" before she compliments them.

  Meghan McCain is a wealthy white woman who likes guns - that's her identity.  And her politics go along those lines.  She is naive enough to  thinks she's such an anomaly because she's a republican who has a gay friend.  

[GHScorpiosRule]

In Her Twatness' mind, "identity politics" is if you identify yourself as a woman. Calling oneself a gun-totin', whiskey-swillin', conservative, blah, blah, fishcakes is NOT "identity politics."

[MMEButterfly]

4 hours ago, Haleth said:

You’re lucky. Here next door in IN I’m often the only person in the store* (aside from employees) wearing a mask. Stupid people. Cases are still going down but it’s not license to be reckless.

*I’ve only been to the grocery store and Lowe’s a handful of times. 

Me too in Indiana. I was just in a hardware store and my husband and I were the only people in masks. Not even the employees were wearing them. We got in and out quickly. I want masks!!

[LetsStartTalking]

On 6/23/2020 at 11:48 PM, deirdra said:

They did mention that Jed had Covid and Abby's Dad (after I read about it in the newspaper), but I didn't know about Abby.

I never heard them mention Jed having COVID - maybe I missed it ? I Know back before COVID they wished her congrats on her new baby (I think it was born the end of January) but don't recall them mentioning COVID.

[LetsStartTalking]

On 6/24/2020 at 11:45 AM, Haleth said:

No, she was pearl clutching on behalf of Lin Manuel Miranda. She was offended, offended I tell you, that Bolton titled his book with a phrase from a Hamilton song. 

I guess he couldn't find a catchy title from a Clay Aiken song ?

[LetsStartTalking]

On 6/24/2020 at 6:24 PM, Kayz Opinion said:

From the 'net: Tom Leonardis. For the past 23 years, Leonardis has been Whoopi Goldberg's business partner on every front. Leonardis president of Goldberg's overall company, Whoop, Inc. and acts as Executive Producer and head of development for their company One Hoe Productions.

From me:  That "overall company" is not her fashion line.

It's amazing that the sophisticated, educated world traveler, Ms. McCain, has never heard of "The Great White Way."

 

I believe Tom has been the one who co-produced 'Sister Act' as well as her stand-up comedy acts, too. He's been with her since the beginning. I recall Whoopi saying last year that she was reviving Sister Act in London this summer (before COVID stopped everything) and she and Tom were working on another B'way musical, but she didn't say much about the new project.  So she and Tom have ties to B'way, and 'The Great Bright Way' sounds great.

[Vanderboom]

For Meghan, "identity politics" is an underhanded way to be dismissive of her co-hosts, particularly when the subject of race comes up.  If a Republican politician gets in trouble for saying something racist, you can count on Meghan to decry identity politics before breaking into "both sides" blather with a generous helping of "intellectually dishonest." 

Edited June 26, 2020 by Vanderboom

[Gemma Violet]

10 hours ago, lusinia said:

 

Is Meghan pretending she's in NYC again?  Or maybe she's back.

I'm listening to today's episode of Clay Aiken's political podcast and one of his guests is Meghan's husband.  Clay asked him for his location and he said Washington, DC.  

[deirdra]

I doubt that Lin Manuel Miranda was the first person to write "the room where it happened", since things that happened in the oval office have long been described as happening "in the room".  You'd think someone who has been a pundint (sic) since she was in utero would know that.

Also, in an interview on Letterman before the premiere of Hamilton, LMM described how reading a historian's book made him think up turning Hamilton's life into a rap musical.  He was so enthusiastic that I had to find the book in the library and read it.  

Edited June 26, 2020 by deirdra

[Haleth]

8 hours ago, deirdra said:

Also, in an interview on Letterman before the premiere of Hamilton, LMM described how reading a historian's book made him think up turning Hamilton's life into a rap musical.  He was so enthusiastic that I had to find the book in the library and read it.  

Is that the Ron Chernow biography?

[lusinia]

2 hours ago, Haleth said:

Is that the Ron Chernow biography?

That is the book LMM took his inspiration from.

[Spartan Girl]

Good lord, that footage of those Palm Beach residents...I'd make a Florida joke but I have my fair share of stooooooopid people in Michigan.

Even Meg was astounded by their stupidity. I was half expecting her to jump to their defense. Well, a broken clock can be right twice a day.

Edited June 26, 2020 by Spartan Girl

[Haleth]

Meg’s dismissal of the anti mask loonies is rich given those are her red state people she’s always promoting. 

[Axie]

Whoopie, I appreciate the point you were trying to make, but, “you may have gone to doctor school?”  All righty, then.

[ifionlyknew]

23 hours ago, Haleth said:

 

I had heard about that Palm Beach meeting earlier this week and all I can do is just shake my head. I creep on someone's FB page (don't judge me) and she lives in Florida and calls herself a holistic life coach and she proudly posts all kinds of anti masks and hoax articles.  It should be mentioned she lives in a gated community and hasn't been out in public in over three months. 

The fact wearing a mask is a political issue is so beyond ridiculous. My local news comment sections is filled with comments from people I can only describe as too stupid to live. Sorry not sorry. We are in the midst of a global pandemic and people are equating wearing a mask to help prevent the spread of a potentially deadly virus to concentration camps.  And the reason for that is because as Joy always says it starts at the top.  Not wearing a mask is the new drinking the koolaid.

[Haleth]

I wonder if this kid running for Congress wears a mask. Or does that limit his freedom?  It appears he did not at his rally. Good thing he has great health care.  I wish someone would have pushed back on his claim that the admin response to covid has been good or disputed some of his other contentions.  I guess no one wanted to work too hard for the second taping of the day.  They were already thinking about the weekend.

He’s just another mouthpiece for Trump. 

Edited June 26, 2020 by Haleth

[ifionlyknew]

Don't like Cawthorne at all. He sounds just like other conservative Republicans. He is getting media attention because he is young. 

And maybe our Canadian posters can tell us if what he said about rationed medical care is true.

[Medicine Crow]

1 minute ago, ifionlyknew said:

Don't like Cawthorne at all. He sounds just like other conservative Republicans. He is getting media attention because he is young. 

And maybe our Canadian posters can tell us if what he said about rationed medical care is true.

Nope!!!

[ifionlyknew]

24 minutes ago, Haleth said:

I wish someone would have pushed back on his claim that the admin response to covid has been good or disputed some of his other contentions.  I guess no one wanted to work too hard for the second taping of the day.  They were already thinking about the weekend.

He’s just another mouthpiece for Trump. 

I think they were surprised.  From the way the show's announcer had been describing him all week I was expecting someone who was going to be moderate but everything Cawthorne said sounded like it came from the Republican talking points. He even threw in the word socialism.

[Haleth]

1 minute ago, ifionlyknew said:

I think they were surprised. 

Surely you are not suggesting they were unprepared?  That they didn’t do any research? 😱 lol

[lusinia]

I wish they hadn't picked that clip of the woman who was saying masks are literally killing people, mentioned citizen's arrests, and said that people there were obeying the devil's law.  And also the clip of the woman who said they "wanted to throw God's wonderful breeding system out the door".  Because then I wanted to know what exactly they meant.  At least the last woman's comments were decipherable. 

Meghan thought it was funny?  Just laughing and laughing and laughing and then laughing some more..  Doesn't she realize these are the people she's usually defending?  And that people who are talking this way are a big reason the numbers are skyrocketing in certain areas.

Meghan - "The infamous Alexandria Ocasio Cortez".  "The rise of socialism on the left".  She's back in her lane.  Ooh, he actually complimented AOC.

Well, Madison Cawthorn certainly has the talking points down.  But if he'd been paying attention, he would be aware that in the last few days quite a few Republican politicians are now acknowledging that more needs to be done to get the virus under control. and are no longer comfortable parroting what the White House is saying.

Edited June 26, 2020 by lusinia

[MeThinkMeNot]

I sat down to watch now and heard Whoopi say "That's our show, hope you liked it. Bye." Only for the show to not be over.

....huh?

[Haleth]

3 minutes ago, lusinia said:

.  And also the clip of the woman who said they "wanted to throw God's wonderful breeding system out the door".  Because then I wanted to know what exactly they meant. 

I thought she said “breathing system.”

[lusinia]

4 minutes ago, Haleth said:

I thought she said “breathing system.”

You know, you might be right.  It does make more sense.  Lol. 

I always have the closed captioning on, and it said "breeding system".  I guess coming right after the first woman, who definitely did not make sense, the closed captioner's take seemed plausible.  Usually you can tell when they get a word wrong. 

[falltime]

I'm 10 minutes in. Boo! No Ana. I really had my hopes up that she would be there since George is her friend. 

[Axie]

13 hours ago, Gemma Violet said:

I'm listening to today's episode of Clay Aiken's political podcast and one of his guests is Meghan's husband.  Clay asked him for his location and he said Washington, DC.  

Megs!  Great news!  If you’re in DC, I’m pretty sure Target is open!  Go get a crib!!!

[A.J.]

14 minutes ago, falltime said:

I'm 10 minutes in. Boo! No Ana. I really had my hopes up that she would be there since George is her friend. 

I want to see her too.  Nothing against Sara but I think we've only seen Ana once on the show since the pandemic hit.  That's not nearly enough.  What gives?  

[falltime]

They have only had Ana twice, I think. When Pitbull was a guest and when Magic Johnson was a guest. And Meghun was gone for those days too.

[PradaKitty]

 I show for us left coasters. Just the “Virus Squad” giving an overly long update.