S10.E07: Santa Denise

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What promises to be a relaxing trip to Santa Barbara instead opens old wounds for Dorit, Erika, Teddi and Kyle. After feeling judged as a mother, Lisa Rinna turns the tables on Denise, forcing her to examine her own history of risqué behavior. Meanwhile, Garcelle weighs the pros and cons of being a working mom as she prepares to leave town for a job.

Airdate: 05/27/2020

Spoiler warning:  Please do not talk about future storylines that have not yet occurred on the show even if they have been discussed in the press.  (i.e. why Denise stopped filming.)

[The Ringo Kidd]

Old wounds? 
 

What did they do? Abandon a puppy on the highway?

[nexxie]

The more Rinna feels exposed, the more vicious she gets - like Dorinda. Different styles, same behavior.

[Rhetorica]

I didn't watch last night. I watched the History Channel bio of Grant. I wonder which show had the most bloodletting... I'll read your comments...

[LibertarianSlut]

I’m watching Grant too!  Tonight they’ll probably cover Reconstruction, but that’s going on the back burner so I can watch Lisa ask Denise about porn.  Instead of searching my soul, I’m blaming the new time slot; I hate it.  Why can’t they just put this on at 8?  

[ShawnaLanne]

I missed the first 10 minutes. Came in on the tail of Denise's photo shoot. Did i miss anything?

[Straycat80]

1 minute ago, ShawnaLanne said:

I missed the first 10 minutes. Came in on the tail of Denise's photo shoot. Did i miss anything?

Kyle and Dorito talking about how they are still friends despite last weeks fight. 
Garcelle saying goodbye to her sons because she’s going away to work. 

[ShawnaLanne]

Erika Jayne is a *unt. You don't talk about a 14 year old like that. They know what a threesome is if they haven't already had one. Again, if they don't see the difference between adult talk and child talk, that's their moral issue. Those bitches are all nasty.

Erika, abandoned my kid to be an old man's trophy, and Lisa, even my husbsnd thinks my kid has an eating disorder because of me, need to stfu.

Edited May 28, 2020 by ShawnaLanne

[Andi27]

What is Erika's issue and why can't these women differentiate between conversations where only adults are present and those where children can easily overhear their screeching? I know they have problems taking responsibility for things, but this is not Denise's problem, it's there's.

And what is Erika's issue?

 

[Mindthinkr]

I thought the comment about Denise’s daughter already having a threesome was a bit OTT and catty. She may have a semi-wild mother, but she is still a child. I’m glad that Denise wasn’t there to hear it. 

[ShawnaLanne]

1 minute ago, Andi27 said:

What is Erika's issue and why can't these women differentiate between conversations where only adults are present and those where children can easily overhear their screeching? I know they have problems taking responsibility for things, but this is not Denise's problem, it's there's.

And what is Erika's issue?

 

Erika crossed a nasty line. 

[Andi27]

The producers must really hate Sutton - she's constantly being filmed, but is just a 'friend of,' while Garcelle is barely ever with the other women but got a diamond.

[jaybird2]

1 minute ago, ShawnaLanne said:

Erika crossed a nasty line. 

erika is NASTY

[Wicked]

That house is a maze ing!!!

 

[Keywestclubkid]

im done with this season insinuating that someones child is fucking or having 3somes just ...No 

[ShawnaLanne]

Just now, Keywestclubkid said:

im done with this season insinuating that someones child is fucking or having 3somes just ...No 

I am disgusted by all of the other women. They aren't okay.

[Mindthinkr]

Just now, Keywestclubkid said:

im done with this season insinuating that someones child is fucking or having 3somes just ...No 

The parent signs up for this...not the child. Speculations about an underage childs sex life should be off limits. Period. 

[Straycat80]

If Erika gets called out on doing something wrong she turns it around and gets mad at the person , in this case Denise, who called her out. She was furious  at Eileen for saying something about her son that one time but then she says something about Denises teen daughter have a threesome. No, bitch, no. 

[Keywestclubkid]

Just now, Mindthinkr said:

The parent signs up for this...not the child. Speculations about an underage childs sex life should be off limits. Period. 

ERika basically just shit all over them and gave them a reputation that she has no knowledge of .. this will follow those kids now ,... thats fucked up 

[ShawnaLanne]

Erika thinks she is being cute. They again are all missing the mark in their nasty shennanigans. Those women are all jealous of her. It's pretty disgusting.

Edited May 28, 2020 by ShawnaLanne

[Mindthinkr]

You know if anyone said the same of one of Kyle’s or Rinna’s child they would go ballistic. How can they sit by and not support Denise? 

[Andi27]

I want to see the invitation to this party. It obviously must have said something to the effect of "Adult Party: Bring Your Potty Mouth and Say What You Want" or these women wouldn't be so outraged.

But what would really be great is if they had something else to talk about.

[Mr. Miner]

Did y’all know that Denise was married to Charlie Sheen? 🙄

And Dorit you are a fucking asshole! 🖕🏻

[Mindthinkr]

I’m watching everyone eat. I have yet to see Rinna bring a fork near her mouth. Is she on the just look at the food diet? 

[ShawnaLanne]

I guess it's telling that the two shit mom's, Lisa and Erika, are going so hard after Denise.

Edited May 28, 2020 by ShawnaLanne

[biakbiak]

1 minute ago, Straycat80 said:

She was furious  at Eileen for saying something about her son that one time but then she says something about Denises teen daughter have a threesome.

Eileen didn’t even say anything negative about him specifically. Erika was refusing to take Dorit’s apology seriously and Eileen said “it’s not like she killed your children” and Erika made it into a thing about her son because he is a police officer. She was using a poor example but it literally had nothing to do with her actual son.

[whydoievencare]

I really don't get why Erica (well, all of them really, but especially Erica) is still so nasty about the fact that Denise asked the women to stop with the VERY LOUD sex talk at her BBQ.  What axe does she have to grind with Denise?  There WERE kids there within earshot.  It's a really ugly side of Erica that we're seeing.  I guess we get why she dumped her kid - she didn't want him to cramp her style.  And they are all deliberately confusing characters that Denise played with her actual self - talking about her husband's penis size and all the sex while with adults notwithstanding.  Lisa R is such a fucking shit stirrer - hate her.

[Straycat80]

Now Rinna is talking about blow jobs and her daughters. No wonder her daughters have problems. She will never get any Mother of the Year  Awards any time soon. 

[JD5166]

What a bunch of BORING screeching old cows. Yes Kyle, we know....you have anxiety. 🙄

[Mindthinkr]

2 minutes ago, Straycat80 said:

Now Rinna is talking about blow jobs and her daughters. No wonder her daughters have problems. She will never get any Mother of the Year  Awards any time soon. 

She wrote a book about giving oral sex. I think she mentioned that she gave her girls a copy. (Pearl clutching) 

[ShawnaLanne]

Just now, Mindthinkr said:

She wrote a book about giving oral sex. I think she mentioned that she gave her girls a copy. (Pearl clutching) 

No. Her daughter's told her they'd read it when they were 11. Her point that Denise's girls are going to see things about their mom that she didn't think of is valid. Her and the rest of the groups inability to act like anything but oversexed twunts in front of children is something else.

[Keywestclubkid]

4 minutes ago, Mindthinkr said:

She wrote a book about giving oral sex. I think she mentioned that she gave her girls a copy. (Pearl clutching) 

did she give it to them at 13? like here so you know what your doing? if Erika insinuated that Lisa would flip out 

Edited May 28, 2020 by Keywestclubkid

[Mindthinkr]

1 minute ago, ShawnaLanne said:

No. Her daughter's told her they'd read it when they were 11.

I stand corrected. You have a better memory than I do. Thanks. 

[ShawnaLanne]

Oh, they're all embarrased about being morally shown up by Denise Richard's.

She didn't bring it up Teddi, fucking Lisa brought it up at dinner. 

Fans aren't as stupid as you think, you bunch of bitches.

Edited May 28, 2020 by ShawnaLanne

[LibertarianSlut]

So Dorit is full of shock and awe that Kyle told her to “shut the fuck up” when Dorit screamed across a dinner table to Camille that she was a c*** apropos of nothing a few seasons ago?  Miss me.

I’m bored by Garcelle telling us what she’s working on and how busy she is every episode.  It makes me feel like she took this role for publicity.  I have the same complaint when Erika, Lisa or Kyle goes on and on about their schedules.  I don’t like that this franchise is populated with famous people; I prefer good old-fashioned rich people and the concept of “peeking behind the orange curtain.”  I think there is something to the idea that Garcelle was supposed to be a friend-of and Sutton was supposed to be full-time until the ex pulled Sutton’s kids and thus her storyline.  

Was Denise married to someone famous?  She rarely mentions the past.  

 Teddi has to “go potty”?  Ugh.  Puh-leaze with the baby talk.  And if anyone told her that sounded lame, she’d cry.  This is why she gets picked on.  

I love that Sutton is not a hugger!  A woman after my own cold black heart.  

I know Lisa isn’t popular, and I do think she’s a huge bitch when you pierce the veneer, but there is something about her joie de vivre that I like.  She is always upbeat and she appreciates things like the view at the winery in Santa Barbara.  She is not cynical or morbid and I do appreciate that.  

I like them going to Santa Barbara.  It reminds me when they went to Ojai in season three.

[ShawnaLanne]

2 minutes ago, Mindthinkr said:

I stand corrected. You have a better memory than I do. Thanks. 

There was a flasback. 😉

[nexxie]

What a waste of a beautiful house and gorgeous food that made me sooo hungry.

[TexasGal]

Rinna just wants everyone to own it y’all.  That’s all.

🙄

[ShawnaLanne]

This is so stupid. The other women are allowing their own insecurities to color everything. Lisa bringing up Charlie's shit is pretty awesome. 

Wow. It's going to be an entire season of these women trying to take Denise down because they are embarrassed by their own behavior.

[whydoievencare]

Lisa Rinna is always the one to instigate - she always makes it sound like she is just innocently trying to get issues out in the open,"let's clear the air",  but it's really shit disturbing.  What they are all really doing is trying to pigeonhole Denise into a certain persona and the mom who chastised them isn't what they want and they are going to punish her for that.  When Erica chastised them in her home for their behaviour at  her home, apparently that was okay - and their behaviour was immediately modified.  Clearly Erica is higher in the dominance chain than Denise because we didn't hear any moaning and bitching about that.

Edited May 28, 2020 by whydoievencare

[HeddaGabler]

Lisa's makeup during her talking head, was… over the top, and not in a good way. Did she hire a 7-year old to apply that eye shadow?

[Straycat80]

Does Denise not realize her girls are teens and there is the internet, You Tube, and their friends will tell them  stuff about their parents they read or heard? Denise says the stuff she talks about on the show is private conversation between friends, no it’s not, you’re on a TV reality show, the world now knows all. And eventually so will your daughters. 
If she wants to protect her daughters like she says she does she needs to quit this show. 

[DivaLasVegas82]

How much longer are going to stay on Threesomegate? It's been hashed and rehashed on several episodes now. WTF is there left to say? I think Lisa should have just let sleeping dogs lie. While I do think Denise had the right to control the topic of conversation in her home, I am surprised she is being such a stick in the mud about her daughters overhearing the threesome talk, especially when Sami said she and her friends were laughing about it, and it was fine. However, after Denise said she didn't want to talk about it anymore in Santa Barbara, I don't think it should have been brought up again, and it wouldn't have if Lisa didn't bring it up again. I wonder if the producers told her to instigate drama. I also wonder if producers are the ones who told Lisa to even initiate the threesome talk in Santa Barbara by having her ask Denise about her threesome scene in "Wild Things."

[Mr. Miner]

I don’t tell my kids that their stepdad is a human tripod. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[HeddaGabler]

5 minutes ago, ShawnaLanne said:

This is so stupid. The other women are allowing their own insecurities to color everything. Lisa bringing up Charlie's shit is pretty awesome. 

Wow. It's going to be an entire season of these women trying to take Denise down because they are embarrassed by their own behavior.

It's hard to track everyone's double standards. Every woman at that table, minus Denise, is lacking serious empathy for others. And, why is Garcelle even on this show? I don't get it.

[DivaLasVegas82]

1 minute ago, Straycat80 said:

Does Denise not realize her girls are teens and there is the internet, You Tube, and their friends will tell them  stuff about their parents they read or heard? Denise says the stuff she talks about on the show is private conversation between friends, no it’s not, you’re on a TV reality show, the world now knows all. And eventually so will your daughters. 
If she wants to protect her daughters like she says she does she needs to quit this show. 

I agree. No matter how protective Denise is over her daughters, there's no way they haven't heard or seen things, especially regarding Charlie Sheen who had about a decade ago had two women living with him that he referred to as the Goddesses. Were Sami and Lola visiting their father during that time?

38 minutes ago, Straycat80 said:

If Erika gets called out on doing something wrong she turns it around and gets mad at the person , in this case Denise, who called her out. She was furious  at Eileen for saying something about her son that one time but then she says something about Denises teen daughter have a threesome. No, bitch, no. 

Eileen didn't say anything about Erika's son. She made a statement referencing getting killed, and Erika unfairly got bent out of shape because her son is a police officer, and death is always a possibility in his line of work. Erika later apologized for overacting. 

I think Erika's issue with Denise is how passive aggressive she is being about the threesome talk. She keeps saying it doesn't bother her when it clearly does. But after seeing the scenes for next week's episode, I question if Denise was going through something else, and this threesome thing is just a distraction.

[biakbiak]

4 minutes ago, DivaLasVegas82 said:

agree. No matter how protective Denise is over her daughters, there's no way they haven't heard or seen things, especially regarding Charlie Sheen who had about a decade ago had two women living with him that he referred to as the Goddesses. Were Sami and Lola visiting their father during that time?

Just because kids have access to the internet doesn’t mean that Denise can’t object to them having to listen to people they know talking about it in her home, no one gave a shit when Erika told Sutton not to raise her voice in her home even though the other women were also yelling because she sets the rules for her house just like Denise can set the rules in her home. She asked them nicely to change the conversation and than they refused which is just dickish and rude to a host.

[bencr]

It really seems like these women are indulging in controversy just for the sake of controversy. Both of the major areas of "conflict" among the women just don't seem like things they, or anyone else, would argue about . First, who cares if Kyle is closer to Teddy than the other ladies? Why is that a source of conflict? And second, if Denise doesn't want you to have an adult conversation in front of her kids, then don't do it. Why argue about it? Neither one of these two areas of conflict are worth fighting about. I feel like this whole season so far has been much ado about nothing.

[LibertarianSlut]

Disclaimer:  I watch this show not to watch people do good deeds for each other.  I watch for the bitchiness.  I thought it was really interesting how they went in for the kill very slowly on Denise, almost like a five-headed hydra (Teddi wasn’t part of it) acting as one awful person.  

It was hilarious to me that Lisa said she was glad that her daughters learned how to give a blowjob right.  That was very obviously step number one in disarming Denise.  

Kyle (without her bangs—finally) went in with the second step by very calmly apologizing for her behavior the other night.  

I liked the way that they let Denise speak, that they didn’t try to shout her down, and then Erika, sitting like butter wouldn’t melt in her mouth saying, “I just think it’s a little naive.” 

This is so much better than shrieking and harping.  That bitchiness was almost surgical in its precision.  Denise had every right to be upset, and I do admire that she didn’t take the bait.  I have to admire that, because if Denise had gotten angry, there would have been no fingerprints on the murder weapon and the women would have gaslit her.  And she deprived them of the opportunity.  Well played.  

Kyle should have either apologized for what she said about Dorit and Erika, or she should have doubled down.  There is no taking the middle road.  It doesn’t exist.  The only reason Erika cut her a little slack is because Erika is strangely up Kyle’s ass, has been ever since she brought her to Greece for a show and it continued through last season’s reunion when Erika said that she thinks Kyle is the new queen of the franchise.  I can’t really figure this one out.  Such strange bedfellows.  Maybe because Erika doesn’t feel threatened by Kyle?

Dorit thinks there’s “honesty” in her friendship with Kyle?  Huh?  They’re completely fake bitches to each other.  

Denise did lie about her daughter’s reaction to the threesome talk.  She didn’t want to get into it, because getting into it would have meant revealing that her daughter was laughing.  But now it’s on TV and everyone knows so...point nobody?

Everyone was trying to test the fourth wall and say Denise talked about her sex life on TV without actually saying it, and they kept running into a brick wall.  Lisa took a swing and missed when she tried to get Denise to fess up to the threesome stuff.  It was a little bit of artistry on Denise’s part.   

Procedurally, I feel Denise is correct here, if that makes any sense, but substantively, I think she’s full of shit.  She has every right to make any rule in her home and anyone who is there has to follow the rules or leave, but the subtext was that Denise goes on TV and talks about happy endings and her husband’s penis size and her ex-husband’s women of the evening, saying “fuck” and “goddamn” at every turn, and if she’s not going to address that, she’s not going to win the day with me.  

Sutton for the quiet win here for suggesting that maybe Denise just shouldn’t have the kids around the group aka when the TV show is filming the women drinking.  Maybe if the group had pursued that path and been a lot more subtle, they could have gotten the reaction they clearly wanted.  

I’ll stay tuned though.  Denise seems to have won this battle, but I don’t think she’s going to win this war.  

[snarts]

11 minutes ago, ShawnaLanne said:

Wow. It's going to be an entire season of these women trying to take Denise down because they are embarrassed by their own behavior.

Let's be honest, they're coming for her because of her salary. She's got the multi-year contract earning more than than anyone else. Add to that the Bold & Beautiful role and Rinna is seething with jealousy. 

Erika looked ridiculous in those trash bag outfits. For someone who went ballistic when Eileen dared mention her son, her comments about Denise's daughter was beyond the pale and extremely hypocritical.