S10.E07: Santa Denise

[njbchlover]

5 hours ago, nexxie said:

Well, looks like all that lovely kumbaya at Kyle’s garden luncheon at the end of last season has now officially gone to shit. Apparently Bravo thinks viewers will only watch if the women are vicious toward each other - I’d rather see more of the peaceful footage that got scrapped. 

I think I actually predicted that kumbaya crap would be lost this season, as Kyle, Rinna and Dorit are stepping all over each other to become the HBIC.  You can see they are all working in overdrive to get there, and it's not working.  

They are all so desperate to become the alpha female.

I agree with you - I'd rather see more peaceful footage of the housewives at home, with their families, doing other things without all the others in tow, etc.  That was how the Housewives shows started out, and that was what I enjoyed most of all.  Seeing them in their everyday lives, doing their everyday things and how different it was from the typical middle-class or suburban housewife.

Now, it's just more of same old, same old - go out to dinner, have a screaming match.  Go out to lunch, have a fight.  Go out for drinks, have a meltdown.  Go stay at some random beautiful house overnight (for absolutely no valid reason, whatsoever), have more meltdowns.  

Boring, boring, boring.  

Oh, and Rinna continues to relish in being a shit stirrer - even when it comes to her "good friend", Denise.  Nothing new there, either.

Lastly, reiterating what's been mentioned already - did Garcelle sign up for the show just to promote her movie?  I like seeing her doing things without the other ladies, but up to now, she seems to have very minimal filming with the group.  No wonder Kyle "glosses over her" - she's hardly ever there!  

Edited May 28, 2020 by njbchlover

[Natalie68]

16 hours ago, Mindthinkr said:

I thought the comment about Denise’s daughter already having a threesome was a bit OTT and catty. She may have a semi-wild mother, but she is still a child. I’m glad that Denise wasn’t there to hear it. 

And she lost her mind on Eileen when discussing her son.  You do NOT talk about a teen that way regardless of their parents.  How would Kyle have reacted to someone saying that about her kids?  By the way, are we seeing less Portia this season? I know we are seeing drunk and mean Kyle and stoner/disheveled Mo but where are her kids minus the 'fashion/robe' show?

[Sweet-tea]

13 hours ago, BusyOctober said:

I haven’t been a big fan of Denise, but I am on her side in this stupid, boring, nit-picking, pot stirring “plot”.  My house, my kids and their friends present, then my rules.  She is not in the wrong for asking these horny middle aged women to chill with the sex talk in the presence of children. If anything, I will put blame on Denise for actually inviting the stupid, vapid, disloyal, petty bunch of bitches to her home in the first place. 

As for the Pit of Vipers, is this the ground they want to plant their Mean Girl flag?  Over a diamond shaped ice sculpture, and whether it’s cool to discuss adult topics in front of teens (and tweens) just because of past risqué or outrageous behaviors by the parents? 

  Then  Kyle would have no problem with her girlfriends discussing Aunty Kim’s whacko behavior, addictions, shop lifting and hospitalizations in front of Portia?  How about how Kyle’s mom was a controlling, alcoholic stage mom who pushed her daughters into acting to help pay the mortgage, and caused irreparable damage to their psyches (addiction, self-esteem issues, anxiety, eating disorders)?

 Rinna would be all cool beans if the ladies want to hang out at the (fake) DNA store with Thing 1 & Thing 2 to discuss the rumors about Harry’s past allegations, or the long swirling rumor that he is gay, and Rinna has been his beard for decades?

Do Dorit and PK welcome lengthy poolside cocktails & conversation in front of their toddlers about their Daddy’s gambling debts, and how he has such abysmally poor credit that he can’t put his name on the house they live in?
 

Now THOSE are the scenes I would love to see on RHOBH. 

BRAVO!

[njbchlover]

4 hours ago, Silver Bells said:

Such a great post.  These days, talking about blow jobs and threesomes are the norm i guess.  Not in my world tho.  They are all so desperate.  What’s next? 😍

Oh, and I forgot “Happy Endings”.  My daughter is a licensed massage therapist and I wouldn’t dare ask her about that!  I’m very close with my two daughters, and we never talk about that stuff or sex in general.  

 

 

 

 

Not in my world, either!!  I mean, even with my friends, there may be some general discussions about sex, but not details.  

And to me, once your kids are adults and seem to have their lives in order, specific sexual acts should just not be discussed with parents.  As a parent, I don't want have any mental images of those things with regards to my children, and I am 1,000,000% positive they do not want to know intimate details about their parents, either.  

Of course, if you are concerned about your child's wellbeing for any reason, some things should be discussed, but more from a health concern than from a conversational viewpoint.

As far as the discussion with teenagers - while awkward, if they bring something up, it is definitely something that you need to discuss with them, more as guidance rather than a "lesson" a la Rinna.  At that age, keeping the communication open is super important, but there's a fine line, as a parent, that you have to walk, imo. 

Edited May 28, 2020 by njbchlover

[funnygirl]

Rinna's "what's it like to shoot a three-way". B*TCH, you're an actor, you did soaps, you of all people know how technical filming love scenes are. Such a sh*t stirrer... someone tell Rinna that Julie Pinson is the better Billie Reed. 

Erika can not handle when someone points out where she went wrong. Denise explained herself clearly and her reasons for setting the boundary with the kids calmly and to the point. Why are they fixated on this? Someone mention Erika's cop son again, and watch her go through the roof. Hypocrites! 

As for Garcelle, she's booked and busy. It's not her fault that her commitments were around the same time as filming for this show. She's a breath of fresh air for this franchise that is otherwise full of a bunch of over-sensitive, self-involved women who think they're above it all. Besides, she's not missing anything of value when all these women do is beat a dead horse around a dinner table. 

Edited May 28, 2020 by funnygirl

[TV Diva Queen]

Anyone else think those kids who dove over the railings were stealing their purses. At least if that happened, there would have been something interesting in this episode. I’m pretty much ready to stick the proverbial fork in BH. I think Andy knew this too at the beginning of the season and that’s why he teased us with the Denise breaking the fourth wall. I’m really only here for that. 

[njbchlover]

4 minutes ago, TV Diva Queen said:

Anyone else think those kids who dove over the railings were stealing their purses. At least if that happened, there would have been something interesting in this episode. I’m pretty much ready to stick the proverbial fork in BH. I think Andy knew this too at the beginning of the season and that’s why he teased us with the Denise breaking the fourth wall. I’m really only here for that. 

Ha-ha - I didn't think that, but I did think they did it on a dare or something.  Someone they were with probably recognized the ladies, and had a bet.  

To me, it was the ultimate "photo bomb"!!  

[SemiCharmedLife]

11 hours ago, swankie said:

Erika can't take any kind of criticism....period.  The fact that Denise had the gall to call her out for her nasty talk in front of her youngins has Erika's undies in a bunch.  Yet she never has a problem dragging someone else.  Just like her argument with Kyle.  Oh, how dare Kyle suggest that Erika doesn't have close friends even though she called Kyle's friendship with Teddi weird.  I swear I sat and rolled my eyes this whole episode.

Except we know she doesn't wear undies! 😉

[janie2002]

Going off social media- Erika stands by her words. She is retweeting support for her.

Erika is a totally different person in front of her husband, you would think she would understand that Denise might act different in front of her kids. I think it must hurt Denise to have her kids looked at as less "pure" because Charlie is their dad. They aren't teenage girls, they are little fast girls because of their dad. Not fair, sins of my father and all.

How many of us have had a girls night and gotten a little drunks and loud, yet we probably wouldnt do that at our kids birthday party. 

Rinna is one low down dirty dog, i think she is a vile person. Her kids have pumped their faces with filler, dropped out of college, have anxiety, depression and eating disorders, BUT thank god they can suck a D good. Yeah, I'm not taking parenting advice from Rinna any time soon. 

[dmeets]

Looks like the actresses' alliance is officially kaput. Guess we know Lisa really will throw anyone under the bus for screentime. OWN IT, Rinna. Good thing Eileen left the show when she did.

Very telling that Dorit didn't really correct Teddi when she suggested Dorit's constant harping about Kyle and Teddi was to shade Teddi because she didn't like her. I think Dorit, not Kyle, is the one who regrets crossing LVP last season. Now she's scared that their friendship is going to result Teddi in leapfrogging her in status among the group. Dorit is seriously the fucking worst.

Denise doesn't actually think her daughter hasn't seen Wild Things, does she? Her party, her rules, so I agree with her in her annoyance with the others, but her straight up lying about her daughter's reaction (and probably about the ice diamond as well) erodes her moral high ground. These women have no shame, Denise, so quit using your kids as a sword and shield. It's not going to work.

[bichonblitz]

How I wish somebody in that group would read Rinna and Erika for filth. They are both disgusting and need to be knocked down several pegs but nobody seems to want to do it. What are they all afraid of? Erika who lives in that lonely outdated manse with her old man grandpa husband who never has time for her? She's very bitter this season and her talking head comments are not funny. Her schtick is as old as her husband.  Rinna with her daughters and all of their issues (thanks to mommy) and a husband that barely acknowledges her because he's too busy living his own life? The only one that put Rinna in her place was Kim Richards. A shame she's not still around. I would put up with her  batshit craziness just to hear her go at Rinna. 

Edited May 28, 2020 by bichonblitz

[Hiyo]

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someone tell Rinna that Julie Pinson is the better Billie Reed. 

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I think Dorit, not Kyle, is the one who regrets crossing LVP last season. Now she's scared that their friendship is going to result Teddi in leapfrogging her in status among the group. Dorit is seriously the fucking worst.

Does Dorit not get that you can be friends with more than one person, and that it's ok if 2 people who are closer friends to each other can still be friends with you too?

[RealHousewife]

27 minutes ago, janie2002 said:

Going off social media- Erika stands by her words. She is retweeting support for her.

Erika is a totally different person in front of her husband, you would think she would understand that Denise might act different in front of her kids. I think it must hurt Denise to have her kids looked at as less "pure" because Charlie is their dad. They aren't teenage girls, they are little fast girls because of their dad. Not fair, sins of my father and all.

Very disappointing to hear about Erika. We all mess up, but OWN IT! She's SO damn sensitive with what's said about her and her son. You'd think she'd watch her mouth regarding others or at least apologize for putting her foot in her mouth.

And the bolded part is exactly what I thought and meant to post. It's disgusting. 

[byrd]

17 hours ago, Mindthinkr said:

I thought the comment about Denise’s daughter already having a threesome was a bit OTT and catty. She may have a semi-wild mother, but she is still a child. I’m glad that Denise wasn’t there to hear it. 

Ericka, can make a statement like that because by the time her ass was 14 she had fucked half of the state Georgia.

[Keywestclubkid]

Would you be really excited to see your parents in a movie doing a 3some? Would you rush out and watch it cause you wanna watch your parents pretend to have sex? Let’s be realistic here. So that means anyone who’s ever done any REAL adult movies their kids must rush out and watch those to? Come on now no kid wants to even think of their parents doing it. Let alone be chomping at the bits to rush out and watch it. And if Denise says she doesn’t show it to them what difference does it make? She’s being shit on for no reason and people acting like she just puts porn on in her house at all times is having sex with Aaron right with her daughters in the room. It’s ridiculous 

Edited May 28, 2020 by Keywestclubkid

[Kdawg82]

I still like the way Denise carries herself. She doesn't allow them to bait her and start wailing at them. She's been through a lot. I'm so mad Rinna, a friend of 20 yrs turned her back on her. I was pissed when she showed up late and tired from filming and joined them harpies at the wine tasting and clearly had been sober and they dogged her for being BORING! OF COURSE she's not turnt up like them bc she's been up since 4 filming TWO episodes and shooting photos. 

Remember when Eileen graced Erika with ONE episode on her soap and she was absolutely DYINGGGGG!!!! 

I sense the jealousy of Denise's still-relevant existence bugs the sh** out of them. They're a bunch of nobodies. 

ETA: they're all over paying for their trash bag clothes while Denise unapologetically still rocks the jeans & white tee. She DGAF. Why was Rinna in a Balenciaga black tee or whatever it was when I'm sure her spawn's "fashion brand" has similar with a dumb logo on it. They all hock their fashions but wear all the designer clothing that's available without a care to promote their sh**.

Edited May 28, 2020 by Kdawg82

[Hiyo]

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I'm so mad Rinna, a friend of 20 yrs turned her back on her

Were they friends or "friends"? At this point, I think they only thing the 2 of them ever really shared was Patrick Muldoon's dick.

[RealHousewife]

26 minutes ago, Kdawg82 said:

I still like the way Denise carries herself. She doesn't allow them to bait her and start wailing at them. She's been through a lot. I'm so mad Rinna, a friend of 20 yrs turned her back on her. I was pissed when she showed up late and tired from filming and joined them harpies at the wine tasting and clearly had been sober and they dogged her for being BORING! OF COURSE she's not turnt up like them bc she's been up since 4 filming TWO episodes and shooting photos. 

Remember when Eileen graced Erika with ONE episode on her soap and she was absolutely DYINGGGGG!!!! 

I sense the jealousy of Denise's still-relevant existence bugs the sh** out of them. They're a bunch of nobodies. 

Me too. I love Denise's personality. She's very sweet but also very strong. 

I cut Rinna slack for a lot of her shenanigans because much of the time it involved women she wasn't close to and/or were being shady themselves. I never saw her as the devil and the others as angels. This instance was different though. Her friend of 20 years is outnumbered, and she chooses to go for a low blow. And yes, I think they really were friends and not just actresses who knew each other. Bravo even showed a clip of Rinna at one of Denise's parties years ago before RHBH. 

Kyle in particular seems to want them all to party like they're a bunch of 20-somethings celebrating at a bachelorette party or something. This isn't Jersey Shore Kyle. People like this show for the drama and a peak into the lives of well-to-do housewives. Not for a bunch of party animals. 

I agree there is a lot of jealousy toward Denise. They were way too focused on Vanderpump last season to go against her then.

Edited May 28, 2020 by RealHousewife

[gingerella]

29 minutes ago, RealHousewife said:

People like this show for the drama and a peak into the lives of well-to-do housewives.

I'm gonna beg to differ. If one reads this thread it seems like most folks are so over the drama, which is all forced and fake ass fakey fake fake. I liked this show for the house and jewelry porn, but it's no more because the assholes at BravHo, all of whom kill their own franchises regularly, seem to think contrived bullshit screeching matches are more entertaining than real life. There is nothing 'real' in this reality show. It's become a scripted soap opera, and a Z-list version at that. IMO, YMMV.

[RealHousewife]

2 minutes ago, gingerella said:

I'm gonna beg to differ. If one reads this thread it seems like most folks are so over the drama, which is all forced and fake ass fakey fake fake. I liked this show for the house and jewelry porn, but it's no more because the assholes at BravHo, all of whom kill their own franchises regularly, seem to think contrived bullshit screeching matches are more entertaining than real life. There is nothing 'real' in this reality show. It's become a scripted soap opera, and a Z-list version at that. IMO, YMMV.

I mentioned both drama and glamour because it's a mix between those two depending on who you ask. My point was no one I know tunes in to watch them party. 

[princelina]

I have moved to Team Denise after last night.  After the way she portrayed herself last season I was underwhelmed with her worry for the kids' sensibilities, but there's certainly no reason for it to have turned into this!  Rinna says to get your feelings out there on the table, Denise does, they all tell her she's wrong, she stands her ground and puts an end to the conversation.  Rinna should be happy; they should all be happy and agree to disagree if need be - everyone has "expressed herself"; move on.  But instead they all fret that she's "more upset than she's letting on."  And I'll give Sutton credit for when she suggested to Denise not to have kids next time and Denise said "It's my house and my party" Sutton did say "You're right" in an appropriate tone, I felt.  Of course, Denise's tag line at the beginning of the show includes "happy endings", and she totally played Kyle by claiming her handicapped child picked the ice sculpture, but whatever - good on her at this point 😄

Here's an interesting thing about Erika:  A week or so ago I was watching some old reruns that were aired, and Erika and Tom had a dinner party which included that one and done Kathryn (who by the way was a much bigger and more annoying bitch than I remembered!) and Kathryn got drunk and loud at the dinner, disobeyed Tom when he told her to be quiet and listen to him! and Erika sat there like a frightened child.  In her THs she ranted and raved about Kathryn acting like that as a guest in her home, and in a later scene she complained to another HW about what Kathryn had done and said that Tom was pissed and "I'm not allowed to act that way!"  So while I originally kind of agreed with her that "I thought this was Wild Thing's house!" I think she could give Denise some understanding.  I do agree with others who have said that she feels it's a dig on her parenting, which she fells guilty about.  And she can never be wrong.

Rinna looks like crap in that TH with the scraped back hair and white eye shadow.  And I wouldn't mind her chuckling at herself, but the knee slapping, bent double roars she does are so fake.  And posting "nude selfies" is the height of foolishness and arrogance.

Also - whatever Erika spent on her "fashion" for this weekend would have been better off given to Kyle to make over a bum.  Honestly.

I would enjoy going to Santa Barbara, staying in that house, and visiting that oceanfront winery.  My favorite thing about these shows is seeing where they go. At least they were able to have fun at the winery before turning into bitches.  Last year in France they were able to sight see and enjoy the winery too, and saved their fighting for in the house.  I enjoy the scenes where they are out and about seeing interesting things.

And poor Teddi.  She should be glad Dorit is jealous of her friendship with Kyle, otherwise I think she'd blend right into the sofa and no one would notice her at all.

[amarante]

1 hour ago, Hiyo said:

Does Dorit not get that you can be friends with more than one person, and that it's ok if 2 people who are closer friends to each other can still be friends with you too?

It's not friendship - it's strategist alliances in terms of screen time and supporting each other's planned storylines and not outing anything embarrassing.

[amarante]

1 hour ago, gingerella said:

I'm gonna beg to differ. If one reads this thread it seems like most folks are so over the drama, which is all forced and fake ass fakey fake fake. I liked this show for the house and jewelry porn, but it's no more because the assholes at BravHo, all of whom kill their own franchises regularly, seem to think contrived bullshit screeching matches are more entertaining than real life. There is nothing 'real' in this reality show. It's become a scripted soap opera, and a Z-list version at that. IMO, YMMV.

Drama is fine when it is organic.

The problem with BH is that the drama is about nothing that anyone with half a brain would drag out - so it is completely stupid and boring. 

The dog-gate last season was the worst. As far as I was concerned, Dorit violated her contract for the dog and was given a HUGE pass by Lisa who chose not to penalize her for the $5000 that was contractually owed. 

Why would anyone - except someone who had a shady purpose - deliberately NOT return a dog to the animal rescue organization as one agrees to. It's easy and dogs are returned frequently when they don't work out. It's especially easy for someone with young children to say that the dog really didn't work out with young children as that is not uncommon.

Edited May 28, 2020 by amarante

[albarino]

17 hours ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

18 hours ago, bencr said:

 

I try so hard with this show out of curiosity, boredom, and FOMO.  I've tried so many episodes of this show.  Every episode feels incredibly scripted from the first minute to the last.  This season and last. 

Yep.  

Just watched this sober and I don't care. I try but nope. These are episodes about nothing.  How about we hear about all of the lawsuits these wives are engaged with?  That might be good.

[Thumper]

20 minutes ago, princelina said:

I have moved to Team Denise after last night.  After the way she portrayed herself last season I was underwhelmed with her worry for the kids' sensibilities, but there's certainly no reason for it to have turned into this!  Rinna says to get your feelings out there on the table, Denise does, they all tell her she's wrong, she stands her ground and puts an end to the conversation.  Rinna should be happy; they should all be happy and agree to disagree if need be - everyone has "expressed herself"; move on.  But instead they all fret that she's "more upset than she's letting on."  And I'll give Sutton credit for when she suggested to Denise not to have kids next time and Denise said "It's my house and my party" Sutton did say "You're right" in an appropriate tone, I felt.  Of course, Denise's tag line at the beginning of the show includes "happy endings", and she totally played Kyle by claiming her handicapped child picked the ice sculpture, but whatever - good on her at this point 😄

Here's an interesting thing about Erika:  A week or so ago I was watching some old reruns that were aired, and Erika and Tom had a dinner party which included that one and done Kathryn (who by the way was a much bigger and more annoying bitch than I remembered!) and Kathryn got drunk and loud at the dinner, disobeyed Tom when he told her to be quiet and listen to him! and Erika sat there like a frightened child.  In her THs she ranted and raved about Kathryn acting like that as a guest in her home, and in a later scene she complained to another HW about what Kathryn had done and said that Tom was pissed and "I'm not allowed to act that way!"  So while I originally kind of agreed with her that "I thought this was Wild Thing's house!" I think she could give Denise some understanding.  I do agree with others who have said that she feels it's a dig on her parenting, which she fells guilty about.  And she can never be wrong.

Rinna looks like crap in that TH with the scraped back hair and white eye shadow.  And I wouldn't mind her chuckling at herself, but the knee slapping, bent double roars she does are so fake.  And posting "nude selfies" is the height of foolishness and arrogance.

Also - whatever Erika spent on her "fashion" for this weekend would have been better off given to Kyle to make over a bum.  Honestly.

I would enjoy going to Santa Barbara, staying in that house, and visiting that oceanfront winery.  My favorite thing about these shows is seeing where they go. At least they were able to have fun at the winery before turning into bitches.  Last year in France they were able to sight see and enjoy the winery too, and saved their fighting for in the house.  I enjoy the scenes where they are out and about seeing interesting things.

And poor Teddi.  She should be glad Dorit is jealous of her friendship with Kyle, otherwise I think she'd blend right into the sofa and no one would notice her at all.

Bolded:   this.    Denise has said she’s done talking about it, as in, we’re not going to agree, let’s move on.  But nooo, they want to keep harping on it until she agrees with them, I guess!   

Edited May 28, 2020 by Thumper

[Lady of nod]

Erika's clothes are fugly. That's all

[Rahul]

3 hours ago, bichonblitz said:

The only one that put Rinna in her place was Kim Richards. A shame she's not still around. I would put up with her  batshit craziness just to hear her go at Rinna. 

What I wouldn't give to hear someone call Rinna out on her shit stirring antics or tell her to "blow up your lips some more" and "have a piece of bread and calm down a little."

3 hours ago, janie2002 said:

Going off social media- Erika stands by her words. She is retweeting support for her.

Erika is a totally different person in front of her husband, you would think she would understand that Denise might act different in front of her kids.

What is Erika saying on social media? There is no defense for behavior--especially when she has expected guests in her own home to act prim and proper on more than one occasion.

[nexxie]

Denise should be pissed that “her friends” disrespected her by not listening to her requests to tone it down around the kids - maybe that is what she ultimately gets angry about.

[Rahul]

19 hours ago, snarts said:

Erika looked ridiculous in those trash bag outfits. 

Erika has always looked ridiculous to me. At least now she's dressing more appropriately to match what she is on the inside--trash.

[MatildaMoody]

20 hours ago, DivaLasVegas82 said:

Eileen didn't say anything about Erika's son. She made a statement referencing getting killed, and Erika unfairly got bent out of shape because her son is a police officer, and death is always a possibility in his line of work. Erika later apologized for overacting. 

No she didn't. She apologized because she didn't want Eileen to change her mind about letting her film a scene on the soap. It was obvious too because she followed the apology up by asking her if she was still going to be able to do the soap with her. There isn't an authentic or sincere bone in that robot's body. Everything is Transactional with her. 

Also, has anyone noticed that Rinna always stirs the shit anytime there is food around? It's like she is trying to avoid eating and making sure the other people at the table don't notice that she hasn't even touched her food. 

[tinderbox]

18 hours ago, biakbiak said:

How would they have looked bad if they had just acted like decent guests and adhered to their hosts requests or looking at a table full of kids decided it wasn’t an appropriate time or place on their own.

Probably because these women are expected to put on some sort of show for the cameras each time they ALL get together.......which I don’t believe is more than once or twice a month, while filming a season..  Having a delightful evening get together isn’t what production expects nor how the women are paid to act.  Controversy drives the season forward.  

[eleanorofaquitaine]

So I am not Denise's biggest fan (though I do respect how she has handled her kids - I just don't think that she can only be judged based on her status as a mother). But I have to agree that I don't think that there is anything wrong with her wanting to assert her own rules in her own home when it comes to what kind of language is spoken in her home.

But it also feels to me like there is something we aren't seeing because they don't want to break the fourth wall. It feels like the producers want us to believe that Denise isn't entirely being on the up-and-up when it comes to the persona she is presenting.  They included that snippet about Denise and Aaron believing that they are being followed earlier in the season and obviously they included Aaron's bizarro rambling about his job. Then in last night's episode, you have Denise acting all school-marmish about how loud the group was being at the restaurant. And then they showed that Denise was shading the truth a bit re Sami's reaction to the threesome talk. (Plus, they made sure to include the "happy endings" talk again and again).

I don't doubt that the producers are whispering in Erika's and Rinna's ears re Denise - in particular, they know that Rinna will deliver whatever goods they want her to (a la Munchausen).  But it feels a bit to me like the producers and editors are the ones who have some kind of issue with Denise but we haven't seen the entire picture yet. 

Edited May 28, 2020 by eleanorofaquitaine

[Hangin Out]

4 hours ago, njbchlover said:

Not in my world, either!!  I mean, even with my friends, there may be some general discussions about sex, but not details.  

And to me, once your kids are adults and seem to have their lives in order, specific sexual acts should just not be discussed with parents.  As a parent, I don't want have any mental images of those things with regards to my children, and I am 1,000,000% positive they do not want to know intimate details about their parents, either.  

Of course, if you are concerned about your child's wellbeing for any reason, some things should be discussed, but more from a health concern than from a conversational viewpoint.

As far as the discussion with teenagers - while awkward, if they bring something up, it is definitely something that you need to discuss with them, more as guidance rather than a "lesson" a la Rinna.  At that age, keeping the communication open is super important, but there's a fine line, as a parent, that you have to walk, imo. 

I agree with everything you said.  My girls said they learned many things relating to sex in a health class at school.  I said they could ask me anything, but they said “ thanks Ma, but no thanks”, lol.  And that was that!  They had everything covered.  Good.

[Hangin Out]

5 hours ago, Sweet-tea said:

Erika was really nasty and should apologize to Denise. There was no reason to talk about Denise’s daughter like that. It wasn’t funny. 

We must’ve missed the five bites Lisa allowed herself. 

She looked clownish. Horrible! Overdone makeup aside, she shouldn’t put her hair back that way. Her features are too large. It’s not flattering. 

I can’t believe they’re making this sex talk thing the cornerstone of the entire season. I thought the dog storyline last season was bad. This is worse. I’m fully on Denise’s side. They are clearly ganging up on her and I don’t understand why. 

She was baiting Denise with the threeway question too. And  then she brought up the previous evening discussion as a way to stir everything up again. She is horrible. 

 

Somebody should ask Rinna where her husband lives.  Not with her.

[MatildaMoody]

6 minutes ago, Silver Bells said:

Somebody should ask Rinna where her husband lives.  Not with her.

Better yet, someone should offer her some bread and see if she has a flashback to Kim telling her to eat some bread in Amsterdam.

[nightmeri]

21 hours ago, whydoievencare said:

Lisa Rinna always instigates it

And she always instigates around food...so she doesn’t have to eat. Sorry if someone already said this as I have not read all comments. Classic disordered eating behavior 

and Lisa asking about Charlie’s hookers. What is her point? The girls were exposed to horrible things so pile it on freely?  
and the Wild Thing talk makes me stabby. If Dave Chapelle invited me to dinner I would not assume that I could drop the F bomb repeatedly in front of his kids since that is part of his professional act   
Lunatics, all of em!

[Mar]

Erica, just fu## off, just completely fu## off

[Mar]

20 minutes ago, Mar said:

Erica, just fu## off, just completely fu## off

And to finish my previous post… Teddy, you too. Lisa, you too. Kyle, you too. I haven’t finished watching the episode yet so I don’t know if I need to add anyone else.

[Mar]

6 hours ago, funnygirl said:

Rinna's "what's it like to shoot a three-way". B*TCH, you're an actor, you did soaps, you of all people know how technical filming love scenes are. Such a sh*t stirrer... someone tell Rinna that Julie Pinson is the better Billie Reed. 

Erika can not handle when someone points out where she went wrong. Denise explained herself clearly and her reasons for setting the boundary with the kids calmly and to the point. Why are they fixated on this? Someone mention Erika's cop son again, and watch her go through the roof. Hypocrites! 

Yes and yes!!

[lawrbk]

17 hours ago, swankie said:

The exception to this rule would be Sonya Morgan.  I have no idea what her daughter even looks like.

Brandi’s kids weren’t either. 

[endure]

I can't stand Kyle, she is getting worse every season, her shitty acting, her superior attitude and her on demand gravelly voice are so over the top.  Then there's the loud crass obnoxious Rinnugh.....🥺

[Thumper]

Why was Kyle talking in a Cockney British accent when they were all drunk, before Denise got there?  Once was fine, but over and over was annoying.  She thought it was funny, though.

[endure]

On 5/27/2020 at 5:54 AM, nexxie said:

The more Rinna feels exposed, the more vicious she gets - like Dorinda. Different styles, same behavior.

Speaking of puppies did she blame her dog for eating her mother's pills WTF.....since when are dogs responsible?  Good thing LVP wasn't there!

[endure]

On 5/27/2020 at 6:28 PM, Keywestclubkid said:

im done with this season insinuating that someones child is fucking or having 3somes just ...No 

Me too, I came in late to this season with everything else going on in the world I just couldn't be bothered then binged the season a week or so ago and honestly these women make my skin crawl.  Why would they even want to go on a trip together?  

[endure]

On 5/27/2020 at 6:33 PM, Andi27 said:

I want to see the invitation to this party. It obviously must have said something to the effect of "Adult Party: Bring Your Potty Mouth and Say What You Want" or these women wouldn't be so outraged.

But what would really be great is if they had something else to talk about.

They never do though = have anything to talk about, they're wasted bitches

[suomi]

53 minutes ago, lawrbk said:

Brandi’s kids weren’t either. 

I don't remember seeing them a lot but her 6-year-old peed on the grass at Adrienne's pool party, and Kyle and Camille gave Brandi a hard time about it.

[ParadoxLost]

20 hours ago, Door County Cherry said:

She didn't get the diamond because her ex refused to let her children film the show.  For all we may bitch and complain about seeing the families of these women, I guess it's part of the requirement getting the diamond.  I do find it kind of hilarious that whenever we see Garcelle, it's rarely with the women; it's with her kids, her ex or even her friends. 

I doubt that kids not being filmed is an iron clad rule on not getting HW status.  Its likely an accumulation of there being no aspect of her life that they can film to "get to know" Sutton if it takes time for integrate into the group.  I think her friend of status is because they liked her (likely as the closest they've ever come to someone being able to turn a phrase like Camille "the morally repugnant Faye Resnick" Grammar) but wanted to see if she could generate enough story by filming with the HWs to offset the lack of filming opportunities elsewhere.

If you read some of the who are Sutton bios, it reads like

• she has kids and an ex-husband who won't be part of filming
• she owns a snooty boutique
• she throws fabulous parties but only A listers are invited and they aren't signing any filming waivers for RHOBH
• she goes to fabulous European fashion shows that RHOBH likely can't film at
• she's on fundraising boards 

Nothing to get the show to give her HW status outside of a season where she earns it.  She doesn't have an Erika Jayne persona or an ex-husband that ended up splashed on the tabloids for cheating with Leann Rhimes, etc.

Garcelle probably sounded really good on paper.  She made the tabloids for emailing her husband's coworkers about his affair.  They probably thought they could get access to filming of her various projects. Plus they are allowing filming of her family.  That didn't turn out that great for them since the only thing she is around to film is the stuff that is usually filler.

- 

[endure]

On 5/27/2020 at 7:06 PM, Straycat80 said:

Does Denise not realize her girls are teens and there is the internet, You Tube, and their friends will tell them  stuff about their parents they read or heard? Denise says the stuff she talks about on the show is private conversation between friends, no it’s not, you’re on a TV reality show, the world now knows all. And eventually so will your daughters. 
If she wants to protect her daughters like she says she does she needs to quit this show. 

YES and she has said a lot!

[endure]

On 5/27/2020 at 7:08 PM, HeddaGabler said:

It's hard to track everyone's double standards. Every woman at that table, minus Denise, is lacking serious empathy for others. And, why is Garcelle even on this show? I don't get it.

Maybe her ex needs the work, he's on more than any of the husbands. 

[dmeets]

2 hours ago, Mar said:

And to finish my previous post… Teddy, you too. Lisa, you too. Kyle, you too. I haven’t finished watching the episode yet so I don’t know if I need to add anyone else.

Dorit... always Dorit. Because.