Getting to Genoa You All Over Again: Y&R Daily Chat

[Joimiaroxeu]

^^^Yeah they recently showed the episode where Kevin was destroying Gina's restaurant and pouring gasoline all over it. There was a moment when he stood outside the walk-in refrigerator taunting Colleen. It was clear he knew she was locked in there and would likely die in the fire. Thing is though, being enclosed in fridge probably kept her safe, at least long enough for her to be rescued by JT.

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That's why John was horrified to find out he was his stepson. How he ever got past that...

Right? They also recently showed an episode where Kevin walked into the Abbott house and actually made a lowkey snarky remark to Colleen. This was well after he'd burned Gina's restaurant down and I couldn't believe none of the Abbotts came to Colleen's defense. (Gloria was married to John and eventually Kevin and Michael were granted entrée into the Abbott family circle because of her.)

Edited July 15, 2020 by Joimiaroxeu

[SweePea59]

Today's retro ep with the reveal of Michael's father... what a poor choice for the actor. I always wished that William Windom would have been cast at Michael's father. And he would have played the hell out of it and brought so much to whatever lackluster writing he was handed. And been believable. This casting has always been one of my biggest Y&R regrets. I know this may sound surprising and WTF, but, this is just this viewer's personal opinion.

[peacheslatour]

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I always wished that William Windom would have been cast at Michael's father. 

Ooooh, so perfect!

[geauxaway]

Jeffrey and Gloria were such a great couple!  I think he was her best pairing.  Yes, he was a pretty terrible person, but I still liked him as a character.

BRING BACK DANIEL!!!

[Joimiaroxeu]

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wished that William Windom would have been cast at Michael's father.

Yeah, there's an interesting physical resemblance, plus he would've been more age-appropriate. I guess CLB is supposed to be playing Michael at least ten years younger than he actually is because Judith Chapman is only seven or so years older than he is, and Michael Gross is only slightly over a decade older.

[geauxaway]

Glo’s pink peacock print jacket!!!!  🥰🥰🥰.  

[blackwing]

Christian LeBlanc looked SO OLD with the undyed hair and the white beard.  Not a good look for him.  They should do like what Susan Flannery did when Sally cut off Stephanie's hair and then she could stop wearing the wigs.  But I guess the show doesn't want Michael with white hair because then they can't pretend he's in his mid-40s like he has been for the last 15 years.

The Baldwin-Fishers are probably my least favorite family on the show... save for Gloria.  But I really dislike all of the rest of them.

[Joimiaroxeu]

Okay, so today Brad is working at Newman. Guess he didn't keep his shirt on like Jack told him to. 🙄

You'd think NE and Jabot were the only employers in GC. Almost all the major characters have bounced back and forth between those two companies, with the occasional detour over to Chancellor Industries. Their resumes must be amusingly predictable and similar.

JT and Kevin were roommates? Was this before or after Kevin tried to kill Colleen? I. Can. Not. 😡

Pornstache Nick. Ew.

That was slick the way Colleen got her hands on JT's cellphone. Meanwhile, how did she not grab a fork and stab Kevin in the neck? I just don't get how he felt so entitled to get rude with the Abbotts.

Interesting to see Nick and Victoria working together at NE. Apparently Victoria hadn't decided yet that running NE was her birthright alone.

Hmmm, so who was the jump-off JT got with that had Colleen so worried? Was it Victoria? She was acting kinda cagey when Colleen was asking her if she knew who JT's secret woman was.

So was Phyllis knocked up with Summer yet? I thought she and Lauren were pregnant around the same time. (Or was that with Daniel and MySon?)

Phyllis: So what if my drunk son got your daughter killed and I slept with your grieving husband? You can't fire me. I'm not leaving.
Sharon: AAAAArrrrrgggghhh! I hate you! You are soulless!
Christine: Welcome to the club, Sharon. Come over here and sit by me.

[MissAlmond]

Next Monday (July 20) Y&R will air the first two 30 minute episodes from when the show started.  My DVR is ready to go.  

Edited July 16, 2020 by MissAlmond

[boes]

Show better toss in an episode with Kevin not being such a prick because I'm hating the little rodent as much as I did when these episodes first aired.  With Phyllis, the loathing has stayed constant for decades.

Too bad there wasn't a double murder today, Kevin and Phyllis.

No jury would convict.  Hell, toss Nick in the woodchipper and make it a trifecta.  

[bc1795]

21 hours ago, MissAlmond said:

Next Monday (July 20) Y&R will air the first two 30 minute episodes from when the show started.  My DVR is ready to go.  

I remember that episode -- someone is dropped off from a red pick up truck that he'd just hitched a ride in.  

[peacheslatour]

15 minutes ago, bc1795 said:

I remember that episode -- someone is dropped off from a red pick up truck that he'd just hitched a ride in.  

That episode was in color? 😲

[Joimiaroxeu]

Christmas in July! 😕

Oh yeah, this is when Faith was being a spoiled brat, playing her grandparents against her parents and her parents against each other. IMO they should've stopped indulging her and sent her to boarding school. She was going to end up there eventually anyway. 😐

Oh yeah, this is when a block of wood masquerading as an actor dang near ate the show. Then they saddled Sharon with him but even SC couldn't make it work. 😮

Oh yeah, this is when Kevin the arsonist, statutory rapist, robber, and kidnapper had achieved full romantic hero status. 😒

Oh yeah, this is when the Sully/Christian debacle happened. Said it before, will say it eleventy bazillion more times: Christian would've been better off if the nurse who stole him out of the NICU had left him at a bus stop. At least two states away. 🙄

Oh yeah, this was before Chloe decided to let Kevin and Billy know who Bella's father really was. Bella's going to love finding out one day that she could've been a classy Abbott but instead she's a trashy Fisher/Baldwin. And that she was only concieved to replace her hallowed dead sister. 😿

Well, next week's run of "classic" episodes looks like it'll be fun. I'll be most interested to see the first two episodes of Y&R. I didn't get to start watching the show until about six months in.

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That episode was in color? 😲

The last of the dinosaurs were still roaming the earth but somehow CBS, ABC, and NBC had gone to full-color programming by the late 60s. (Gotta admit though, I did wonder for a hot minute whether the episodes would be colorized. I loathe colorization and would've refused to watch.)

[MissAlmond]

2 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

That episode was in color? 😲

Believe it or not, television programs were broadcast in color in 1973.  Whippersnapper.

Edited July 17, 2020 by MissAlmond

[peacheslatour]

1 hour ago, MissAlmond said:

Believe it or not, television programs were broadcast in color in 1973.  Whippersnapper.

I'm no whippersnapper! I'll have you know that Betsy Ross and I used to pal around all the time! It's just that I remember daytime tv being black and white. I should have remembered that Dark Shadows went to color in the sixties. Blue candles for every one!

[MissAlmond]

10 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

I'm no whippersnapper! I'll have you know that Betsy Ross and I used to pal around all the time! It's just that I remember daytime tv being black and white. I should have remembered that Dark Shadows went to color in the sixties. Blue candles for every one!

LOL.  My guess then is your memory is correct.  Daytime TV was in color but your television set was black and white.  

[boes]

I knew color tv existed, but I didn't actually see one until I was 18 and my parents, to celebrate me moving out, I think, bought the first one in our neighborhood. That was 1970.

Lawrence Welk never looked so good!

[boes]

Ahh, yes, the "Faith takes over the world" episode .   I was sorta expecting her to do a hostile takeover of Newman Enterprises, fire the board and replace them with the horses from the stable.  Missed opportunity....

Gloria slipped up.  She had the box right there and should have stuffed Chloe inside and sent her UPS Overnight to Kim Jong Il while she had the chance.

Two threats neutralized in one blow.

[MissAlmond]

11 hours ago, boes said:

I knew color tv existed, but I didn't actually see one until I was 18 and my parents, to celebrate me moving out, I think, bought the first one in our neighborhood. That was 1970.

Plenty of people during that time watched television shows broadcast in color on black and white TV sets.  It wasn't like today where the message seems to be you must upgrade your cell phone.  No way in hell would most back then replace a perfectly good working TV because TV manufacturers and networks insisted you couldn't fully experience television without the latest new and improved model.  

17 hours ago, bc1795 said:

I remember that episode -- someone is dropped off from a red pick up truck that he'd just hitched a ride in.  

Brad Elliott.

Edited July 18, 2020 by MissAlmond

[pearlite]

18 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

That episode was in color? 😲

Yeah, surprised me too.

But I'm going over to the CDN thread to comment.

[bannana]

Those first two eps were hilarious!

The original Snapper was kind of a dick and reminded me of Ron Moss.  I thought it was him at first.

Jill was awesome schlumpfing around in her terry cloth robe moaning about her cramps to her med student brother. 😁

Peggy waiting by the phone willing it to ring reminded me of me in the 70s.

So Snapper decides he is not interested in marrying the rich girl for her money until his mom rants about being poor and miserable, and that changes his mind.

Brad Elliot orders steak and cocktails at the French restaurant knowing he cannot pay?  I am sure McDonald's or similar was around back then.  He's luck Stuart Brooks came to the rescue.

I never saw these eps before but I do remember some of the actors, like the original Leslie and even Brad Elliot. Don't remember Mrs. Brooks so maybe she died before I started watching?

[geauxaway]

Was that Diedre Hall???  The woman on the phone at the police station.  It was only 1 scene.  
 

 

[dbklmt]

51 minutes ago, geauxaway said:

Was that Diedre Hall???  The woman on the phone at the police station.  It was only 1 scene.  
 

 

Yes it was.  Diedre Hall made her soap opera debut on The Young and the Restless as Barbara Anderson in the first episode on March 26, 1973, the episode shown today.

[geauxaway]

13 minutes ago, dbklmt said:

Yes it was.  Diedre Hall made her soap opera debut on The Young and the Restless as Barbara Anderson in the first episode on March 26, 1973, the episode shown today.

Wow!  I had no idea (obviously).   So she was on YnR before she became Dr. Marlena Evans.  I don’t know why this surprises me, I know soaps have always been super incestuous this way, but I guess she’s been Marlena for so long I just figured that was her first soap role.

Are any of today’s current YnR characters legacy or relations of the Brooks or are they completely extinct?

[boes]

25 minutes ago, geauxaway said:

Are any of today’s current YnR characters legacy or relations of the Brooks or are they completely extinct?

Jill is the aunt of Jennifer Foster, Snapper's daughter with Chris.  Of course, she's been de-Fosterized and made into a Fenmore, but I guess that would still count as an adoptive relationship?

And Mr. Oily Balls himself, Theo Vanderway, is the son of Dina's illegitimate son, whatshisname, whose father is Stuart Brooks, so I guess that misbegotten character is the only heir to the Brooks legacy on the show.  It's like trying to tie the House of Pancakes to the Ritz Carlton dining room.

(Theo has almost faded from memory during the lockdown, but like ButtBiscuit, the odor lingers.....)

Edited July 20, 2020 by boes

[bannana]

2 hours ago, geauxaway said:

Was that Diedre Hall???  The woman on the phone at the police station.  It was only 1 scene.  
 

I did a double-take on that one too.

1 hour ago, boes said:

Jill is the aunt of Jennifer Foster, Snapper's daughter with Chris.

Have we ever seen this Jennifer Foster?

We haven't heard anything about Snapper and Greg for years now.

[boes]

1 hour ago, bannana said:

I did a double-take on that one too.

Have we ever seen this Jennifer Foster?

We haven't heard anything about Snapper and Greg for years now.

The last time we saw Snapper was when Liz flew home to Genoa City and died shortly after.  That's when Snapper told Jill about her real father being Neil Fenmore, something Liz had wanted to tell her before she died.  That last retcon of Jill's parentage.

I don' think Jennifer has ever been on the show, except probably as an infant.

[MissAlmond]

My goodness.  Memories lighting the corners of my mind seeing those first two episodes.  I had forgotten Robert Clary was on Y&R.  IIRC, his character, Pierre, married Snapper's baby mama for the usual soap reasons.  I also totally forgot what Jennifer Brooks looked like but the minute she popped up on screen, I immediately recognized her from guest appearances on Perry Mason whose reruns I love.   To think, Jennifer Brooks once agreed to set up Angie Dickerson.  (LOL)  I wonder if the actress who played Peggy realized her character was doomed to become the designated forgotten sibling.  

[basiltherat]

Didn't Peggy end up in some sort of a triangle with Anthony Geary?  Whose wife was "chubby" and a friend/employee of Katherine's (and I didn't even watch back then -- you know what happens when you get old, you remember old stuff and forgot what you had for breakfast today!)? and somehow wife was circling around in a potential lesbian storyline with, I think, Kay?!

Excuse me while I go have a cocktail.

[Joimiaroxeu]

Episode 1:

Wow, Y&R coming in hot. Not even five minutes in and the word "abortion" was mentioned. Today that word would never be uttered. Not even any vague synonyms either.

That Sally chick was awfully handsy with Snapper. It didn't appear that he considered her his girlfriend so what was that all about?

Oh okay, they were FWBs. And she was supposed to be okay with Snapper dating Chris Brooks, who I'm guessing was allowed to keep her virginity.

Your face looks like you just got beat up, your suit is partially shredded, but you can still get seated in a restaurant. I guess being handsome has its privileges.  Oy, the self-entitlement is strong with this one. 🙄

Aaannnd there's two of the tiresome (IMO) Brooks girls. KMN.

So two characters had to tell the audience that Snapper's name is actually Bill. Wanted to make sure the audience wouldn't blame his mama for such a ridiculous name? (And I'm guessing "snapper" hadn't yet taken on its more lurid slang meaning, hah, hah.)

Deidre Hall! Love that coat she had on. So complicated for no apparent reason.

Man, Snapper was a bit of an a-hole, no?
Stuart: You're not going to be knocking up my 19-year old daughter, are you?
Snapper: Look man, I got things better things to do than get mixed up in a shotgun wedding situation, even with a Brooks girl. Besides, I got a chick to care of my needs, if you catch my drift.
Stuart: Well, a gentleman doesn't brag about such things in public.
Snapper. Who said I was a gentleman? I work for living! Pshht, I'm outta here. Thanks for lunch, rich guy.

I don't know about Brad Elliot but twice it was mentioned what a fancy suit he had on. Meh, it wasn't that great to me; the lines of the plaid didn't even match at the seams. Whatever, I hope Stuart was going to give him an advance on his pay so he could get some new clothes.

[Irlandesa]

Well this was interesting.  I had to spend some time googling who all of these people were.  I knew the Brad that was introduced was clearly not meant to be the more well known Brad (Carlton) of Y&R.  And Chris was clearly not meant to be Cricket.  I only suspected Jill to be the Jill I knew and sure enough, she was even if I had never seen the original actress in the role.

So Snapper was the character The Hoff played, huh? 

Interesting "real" footage but no, Y&R, there are no mountainous backgrounds in WI. 

And holy white male privilege batman.  A dude walks into a restaurant, bleeding, and can't pay for his meal. Another gentleman not only offers to cover his bill but looks at the fact that he's well-dressed and well-spoken and just gives him a job.  Pfft.

I think it'd be kind of fun if they did "first episodes" for some of the well known characters like Victor, Nikki, Jack, Katherine and John. 

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I had forgotten Robert Clary was on Y&R.  IIRC, his character, Pierre, married Snapper's baby mama for the usual soap reasons. 

I'm so used to French owners of restaurants to be putting on a fake accent and speaking gibberish when they start speaking French that I was very surprised when the French owner of the restaurant actually said something real (and understandable) when he told Brad he was lucky because he was just about to have to wash dishes.  But since the character was more than just a dayplayer, I guess that explains why. 

Edited July 20, 2020 by Irlandesa

[ByaNose]

Y&R has shown these two first episodes before IIRC. Which is great to see but I’m curious if they still have the first week? Back in those days everything was wiped and reused. It’s so crazy that a lot of the early days of soaps have been erased. 

[Joimiaroxeu]

Episode 2

Hey, it's the OG Jill! With her hair ratted to within an inch of its life. 😼

Hot wine for menstrual cramps. Was/is that an actual thing? Yech. Seems like Jill's brother the medical student could've hooked her up with whatever the precursor to Motrin was. (According to the googles, ibuprofen wasn't marketed in the US until 1974.)

The Brooks weren't really wealthy it seems. They were more like upper middle class, I guess? I was surprised to see Jennifer Brooks cooking. And that kitchen looked more "suburban tract house" than "stately old mansion" to me.

Wow, Chris' parents were lowkey happy she was probably going to get her heart broken by Snapper. Oy.

Okay, Chris was 19, it sounds like offscreen Lorie was about 22, and Peggy looked 16 or so to me. How old was Leslie? Did Jennifer not know how birth control worked because she seems to have cranked out the kids in relatively close succession.

Snapper couldn't even be bothered to swing by Chris' house and pick her up? Trash.

It was interesting in these first to episodes to see relatively "regular" people as characters. At what point did Y&R decide to make everybody a millionaire/billionaire (or at least somehow attached to one)?

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And holy white male privilege batman.  

Yeah, I was going to note that too but then I figured that was just SOP then. Sigh.

[boes]

You've all hit the high points of "Truckin' It, Genoa City Style".  All I 've got to add is that the set decorator was either terminally depressed or dead drunk.  The Brooks house looks like they'd just moved into the Munster's House, and if Brad Elliot is in his late 20's, then he must have really, really, had the crap beaten out of him.  

Oh, the plaid suit era was pretty awful and I wish Stuart Brooks had ended his lunch with Snapper by kicking him squarely in the ...... Any part that hurts will do.

Edited July 21, 2020 by boes

[SweePea59]

3 hours ago, MissAlmond said:

My goodness.  Memories lighting the corners of my mind seeing those first two episodes.  I had forgotten Robert Clary was on Y&R.  IIRC, his character, Pierre, married Snapper's baby mama for the usual soap reasons.  I also totally forgot what Jennifer Brooks looked like but the minute she popped up on screen, I immediately recognized her from guest appearances on Perry Mason whose reruns I love.   To think, Jennifer Brooks once agreed to set up Angie Dickerson.  (LOL)  I wonder if the actress who played Peggy realized her character was doomed to become the designated forgotten sibling.  

Snapper's baby mama that Pierre married was Sally the waitress, who was also in the first episode.

To add insult to injury, Peggy married Steve. Remember Steve? Paul's oldest brother, older than Father Todd, and completely forgotten. But while Peggy and Steve were still on the show and their families still remembered them, Peggy had a helluva scene trapped in a basement and covered in rats. I remember being horrified as a youngster. And I think I still would be today.

Man, it was great seeing those eps today. What a treat. This is the show I got hooked on. And I floved Jill back in the day. I always rooted for her back then.

[babyhouseman]

5 hours ago, boes said:

The last time we saw Snapper was when Liz flew home to Genoa City and died shortly after. 

Greg appeared around that time too.

4 hours ago, basiltherat said:

 wife was circling around in a potential lesbian storyline with, I think, Kay?!

I remember Kay almost having a lesbian storyline. I don't remember Anthony Geary, but you're right that he was on the show. He raped Chris Brooks. I remember she was raped, but I didn't know who played the rapist. 

[MissAlmond]

12 hours ago, SweePea59 said:

To add insult to injury, Peggy married Steve. Remember Steve? Paul's oldest brother, older than Father Todd, and completely forgotten.

No, I don't remember this Steve who married Peggy and was Paul's oldest brother.  But Peggy and Steve marrying sounds like a match made in forgotten sibling heaven.  

Edited July 21, 2020 by MissAlmond

[blackwing]

20 hours ago, bannana said:

The original Snapper was kind of a dick and reminded me of Ron Moss.  I thought it was him at first.

Yes, for a second I thought that was Ronnnnnn Mossssssss too, even though this was 47 years ago and I knew Ronnnnn isn't quite old enough.  Looked and sounded like him, very similar squinty eyes.  There was also a guy that sounded like John McCook.

I had a hard time following who all these people were and spent time googling.  I'm curious as to why these Brooks and Foster families faded out.  I know that Jeanne Cooper was on the show pretty much from the beginning until her death, so why wouldn't any of these other actors have stuck around?  Did they all just move on, or was there an active decision by the Bells to cut these families?  It seems like there are still some connections like Theo and Jill but for the most part they are all gone.  Why the decision to fade out the Brookses and Fosters while the Newmans and Abbotts rose to become the core families?

[peacheslatour]

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Why the decision to fade out the Brookses and Fosters while the Newmans and Abbotts rose to become the core families?

Just for someone like me who only did cursory watching back then, maybe the Newmans and the 
Abbotts are more interesting?

[CountryGirl]

I was in utero when the show debuted so I didn’t realize Jill was on since the beginning. Well, episode two. Brenda Dickson was so young and gorgeous. I always thought she never got enough credit as an actress, especially once TPTB chose to write her as the biggest scenery chewer of all time (well, until MS’ Phyllis came along and I’ll always believe that’s all MS). 

It was a treat seeing TL (Jack) again today as I’ve always loved him, dirty, rotten scoundrel his Jack was. And Kay’s face lift with art literally imitating life. Seeing future lawyer Cockroach signing on the dotted line was amusing. I’m pretty sure I had the sweater she was wearing. 

[bannana]

3 hours ago, blackwing said:

I'm curious as to why these Brooks and Foster families faded out.  I know that Jeanne Cooper was on the show pretty much from the beginning until her death, so why wouldn't any of these other actors have stuck around?  Did they all just move on, or was there an active decision by the Bells to cut these families?  It seems like there are still some connections like Theo and Jill but for the most part they are all gone.  Why the decision to fade out the Brookses and Fosters while the Newmans and Abbotts rose to become the core families?

I read on this forum I believe, that once Bell decided to take the show from 30 minutes to sixty minutes, several of the actors opted out, not wishing to make that kind of a commitment.  So at that time he decided to add new families. 

Here's an article I found about that: https://tv.avclub.com/the-young-and-the-restless-leads-the-dying-soap-opera-g-1798284081

You know a similar thing happened on OLTL where the "working class" family just eventually disappeared and was replaced with another one.

Edited July 21, 2020 by bannana
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[peacheslatour]

28 minutes ago, CountryGirl said:

I was in utero when the show debuted so I didn’t realize Jill was on since the beginning. Well, episode two. Brenda Dickson was so young and gorgeous. I always thought she never got enough credit as an actress, especially once TPTB chose to write her as the biggest scenery chewer of all time (well, until MS’ Phyllis came along and I’ll always believe that’s all MS). 

It was a treat seeing TL (Jack) again today as I’ve always loved him, dirty, rotten scoundrel his Jack was. And Kay’s face lift with art literally imitating life. Seeing future lawyer Cockroach signing on the dotted line was amusing. I’m pretty sure I had the sweater she was wearing. 

It was. TL was such a grey charmer.

[pearlite]

32 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

It was. TL was such a grey charmer.

Nicely put, peaches!

I did draw back from the FF button when I saw him. He was a whole nuther item compared to PB's version; I don't think they're comparable. In masculine terms, his performances were a tough read for me always, but damn if I'm not a fool for a blond-haired man. [I guess we could perhaps exclude Kale Brown, maybe]

But the amazing naïveté of the scene with Cricket--at least in terms of contract-signing. She was a minor, and little as I know, wouldn't have been able to sign a binding contract. Howeeeeever, was I the only one picking up a less than pristine vibe, shall we say, from their interaction? Subtext ahoy for me...

[peacheslatour]

5 minutes ago, pearlite said:

Nicely put, peaches!

I did draw back from the FF button when I saw him. He was a whole nuther item compared to PB's version; I don't think they're comparable. In masculine terms, his performances were a tough read for me always, but damn if I'm not a fool for a blond-haired man. [I guess we could perhaps exclude Kale Brown, maybe]

But the amazing naïveté of the scene with Cricket--at least in terms of contract-signing. She was a minor, and little as I know, wouldn't have been able to sign a binding contract. Howeeeeever, was I the only one picking up a less than pristine vibe, shall we say, from their interaction? Subtext ahoy for me...

Yeah, I got that too. I don't think it would fly nowadays. At least I hope not.

[MissAlmond]

2 hours ago, pearlite said:

I did draw back from the FF button when I saw him. He was a whole nuther item compared to PB's version;

Terry Lester's Jack having a 15 year old sign a contract without legal representation with the sure confidence he would get away it.

Now you know why I had a hard time believing Jack #1 ever stepped foot in Vietnam.

 

Edited July 21, 2020 by MissAlmond

[bannana]

I was wondering why the fans would've picked this episode; Victor's impotency? Kay's facelift? Terry Lester?

I also cannot remember why Julia is friends with Pricktor after he held her lover hostage and fed him rats!

[Joimiaroxeu]

1984 Nikki was simply stunning. She looked like a beauty queen with all that big hair.

Victor's peen was broken? Hah, hah, hah, hah, hah! 😼 And lol, even back then EB was reading his lines from something off-screen.

I didn't realize Liz and Kay were such good friends.

Fresh-faced Ashley. She was gorgeous back then too.

This must've been the beginning of the end for TL Jack. Didn't he quit because he didn't like the way LLB was allowed to be front and center over other more skilled and worthy actors in the cast?

When that guy was cutting Kay's bandages off I was squirming. I kept wondering whether he'd avoid snipping off some of her hair. Perhaps they had actual surgeon handling the scissors but used an actor to say the dialogue.

Man, Jack was really coming across like a sleazeball, greedily planning to exploit a young teenage girl. Dina wasn't exactly taking the moral high ground about it though.

Aaarrrrggghhh! Nikki doing the baby voice! I hate it!

Whee, Nikki was thisclose to breaking out in that song from Dreamgirls. Get your Jennifer Holliday on, Nikki!

[geauxaway]

1 hour ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

When that guy was cutting Kay's bandages off I was squirming. I kept wondering whether he'd avoid snipping off some of her hair. Perhaps they had actual surgeon handling the scissors but used an actor to say the dialogue.

I was cringing the entire time!  And I had the same thoughts, I figured it was an actual doctor removing the bandages and someone else doing the talking.  
 

Kay’s nails!  OMG!  

[babyhouseman]

1 hour ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

I didn't realize Liz and Kay were such good friends.

Yes, they were which was strange considering Kay's rivalry with Jill.

 

4 minutes ago, geauxaway said:

Kay’s nails!  OMG!

I was always fascinated by her nails and rings. In the old days, she had her hand clutched around a drink. 

[ByaNose]

I can’t recall if Katherines doctor was real or a soap actor. If he was a real doctor he did a good job acting and was good looking in an older man kind of way. LOL!!!!! No offense (why do people all say that) but LLB was truly dreadful. She has improved somewhat but she would never made it past her original 16 week contract if Dad Bell wasn’t in charge. It’s so obvious when Tricia Cast later joins the cast and can, you know, ACT!!! 
 

Marla Adams (Dina) was really beautiful in 1984. She was 46 at that time. Simply stunning. I love all the old stuff compared to any of today’s soaps. Bill Bell really knew how to write. C’mon! Terry Lester is fricking awesome. Granted a little skeezy here but in general......LOL!!!!!