S04.E02: Great Expectations

[Spike]

21 minutes ago, Zevious Zoquis said:

I believe it was Jenny (Summit) who was the first to receive a dealt blow...and to refer to it as such, lol

Yes they were in the spin-off called The Other Way.

[RealReality]

2 hours ago, gotta watch said:

Could you all please help me out? I thought I had watched all the train wrecks involved with this show but somehow I have missed "the blows we've been dealt" reference. I laugh anyway but would love to know where it came from.

Yes, it was Jenny and summit.  I believe Jenny proclaimed "what a blow we've been dealt!" when she was informed that the paperwork for their "marriage" would have to go to his parents house.  

She had thought she and summit would get married privately because his parents didn't approve of her and their marriage was the only way she could stay in his country (India) past her six month visa.  

Well, anyways, surprise! He was already married so they never could have married no matter where this fictional paperwork was sent!

Anyways, the humor in the line is just how she says it....it's pretty funny and I'd bet it's on YouTube

[Zevious Zoquis]

21 minutes ago, RealReality said:

 

...Anyways, the humor in the line is just how she says it....it's pretty funny and I'd bet it's on YouTube

lol yes, it's so very "Charlotte Bronte-esque!"  😄

[BallisticNikki]

13 hours ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

Because, for me, I do not want to hear of "I am a single mom trying to make ends meet" while she has laid out some money for tattoos.  My point was:  If she got them pre kids, fair enough.  If she got them and chose to get tattoos rather than food and then complain she is poor, that is my issue. 

But truly?  Avery bugs me so much that she could be the tattooed lady at the carnival or no tats in sight....she still annoys me.

What about married couples with tattoos who try to make ends meet? 😅

Just seems easier to point fingers at the single moms.

[BallisticNikki]

Are these naive, gullible Americans who are getting scammed by foreign partners just universally naive and gullible in all matters or in all dating situations, I wonder. Or only when it's someone from another country?

[mamadrama]

16 minutes ago, Chloe Dog said:

Yes, I agree about the spoilers!  Sorry, I thought that because it was on the show that it wasn't a spoiler, but I can see that this may be.

Oh, no, you're fine! I was trying not to give any in my reply, that's all. ☺️

38 minutes ago, BallisticNikki said:

Are these naive, gullible Americans who are getting scammed by foreign partners just universally naive and gullible in all matters or in all dating situations, I wonder. Or only when it's someone from another country?

I don't think they're really that gullible. In some cases I think they're really playing it up for TV time. For instance, I think Caesar was never planning on meeting Maria in Mexico. 

[DiamondGirl]

On 3/3/2020 at 10:23 AM, Mrs. Hanson said:

I think Rose will be happy to be in A/C and not in poverty!!  But then again, (and I am not spoiling, I truly don't know) I think she will make a hard pass on coming here with him.  He has misrepresented himself, wants no more kids and there is the 31 year age gap.

Unless Rose is playing the odds and thinking that 31-year-age-gap means many fewer years he will be around and she'll still be young when he moves on.

[Mrs. Hanson]

2 hours ago, BallisticNikki said:

What about married couples with tattoos who try to make ends meet? 😅

Just seems easier to point fingers at the single moms.

Oh Lord - I am so sorry I ever commented on those tattoos on a person, at least on tv, I can't stand.  May we move on?  Pleeeeeze?

[Baltimore Betty]

38 minutes ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

Oh Lord - I am so sorry I ever commented on those tattoos on a person, at least on tv, I can't stand.  May we move on?  Pleeeeeze?

I get what you were trying to say.  😁

[Mrs. Hanson]

43 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I get what you were trying to say.  😁

Thank you!  I pop in here between students so I can smile and laugh, or during my lunch and it was just going in a direction that I never, ever intended.  I would never chap on single moms - I was a divorced mom, remember?  

I have a job that is......draining.  I need to laugh!!

Edited March 4, 2020 by Mrs. Hanson

[Spike]

3 minutes ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

Thank you!  I pop in here between students so I can smile and laugh, or during my lunch and it was just going in a direction that I never, ever intended.  I would never chap on single moms - I was a divorced mom, remember?  

I have a job that is......draining.  I need to laugh!!

Teachers rock, especially special ed.

[FrancescaFiore]

On 3/2/2020 at 10:26 AM, Spike said:

After no sex in 28 years he may not need to get “nipped” (um snipped?).  Atrophy.

Oh, I'm sure Big Ed still got plenty of action from ol' righty (or lefty, as the case may be). I haven't taken time to notice, but now that you mention it, I'munna check to see if my theory is correct: one of Ed's wrists will be as fat as his neck, but it'll be aaaaall muscle.

(Ew, yep. Grossed myself right out.)

[InternetToughGuy]

12 hours ago, RealReality said:

I honestly thought Avery's arm tattoo said "Stu"

Which, could potentially be regrettable.  

I guess "pid" is written on the other arm

[Mrs. Hanson]

10 minutes ago, Spike said:

Teachers rock, especially special ed.

Thank you.

[Spike]

17 minutes ago, FrancescaFiore said:

Oh, I'm sure Big Ed still got plenty of action from ol' righty (or lefty, as the case may be). I haven't taken time to notice, but now that you mention it, I'munna check to see if my theory is correct: one of Ed's wrists will be as fat as his neck, but it'll be aaaaall muscle.

(Ew, yep. Grossed myself right out.)

Maybe Teddy lol.

15 minutes ago, InternetToughGuy said:

I guess "pid" is written on the other arm

Some people thought it said slut.

10 minutes ago, humbleopinion said:

On Demand First hour...

 

There is a separate thread for that ep if you want to move this so as not to spoil.

Edited March 4, 2020 by Spike

[Gobi]

1 hour ago, FrancescaFiore said:

Oh, I'm sure Big Ed still got plenty of action from ol' righty (or lefty, as the case may be). I haven't taken time to notice, but now that you mention it, I'munna check to see if my theory is correct: one of Ed's wrists will be as fat as his neck, but it'll be aaaaall muscle.

(Ew, yep. Grossed myself right out.)

Let’s not forget blow-up dolls.

[PinkFlamingo]

21 hours ago, magemaud said:

Did you see the dreamy look in her eyes when the salesgirl mentioned "your first dance"? Then she sighed, "I'm a romantic..."

Lisa has the barbed wire thing going on. I always thought that had something to do with being in prison? Or is that the teardrop cheek tat? Or both? Or neither? 

I don’t think the barbed wire thing was ever tied to anything specific, just has a reputation of being cliche, cheesy, and overdone at this point. The teardrop tat does have to do with prison, or often to signify the person has killed someone, or maybe they just want people to think they’re tough (posing). My husband and I have a friend with one but I have always been afraid to ask why, hopefully it is the latter lol. 

[Baltimore Betty]

2 hours ago, InternetToughGuy said:

I guess "pid" is written on the other arm

Pelvic Inflammatory Disease?

[BallisticNikki]

On 3/3/2020 at 12:54 PM, magemaud said:

I wonder if the camera crew has an armed security escort when they have to film in dangerous locations. 

I wonder bc Paul and Karrine got mugged, Michael and Angela (almost) got carjacked and Family Chantel got their weaves ripped out, faced clawed and asses whooped.😂

Edited March 5, 2020 by BallisticNikki

[InternetToughGuy]

30 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Pelvic Inflammatory Disease?

If that's the thing that will get me to an even 3 inches, sign me up

[Rt66vintage]

 

On 3/2/2020 at 12:30 PM, magemaud said:

I confess I had to look up the term because I'd forgotten it from my college classes about facial deformities (for speech pathology). A smooth philtrum can be a sign of Fetal Alcohol Syndrome and other medical conditions. 

I'm convinced FAS is Danielle's armchair diagnosis. Her philtrum is smooth.

Lisa is the most interesting ?patient of the season. She's a lot like Danielle, slow and stubborn. And I thought her Solgboy looked kinda old, definitely not a Mohammad. 

On 3/3/2020 at 12:15 PM, magemaud said:

yes, that's probably the case. It still wouldn't surprise me if they were armed, though. Apparently Lisa is a prime kidnapping victim! 

@magemaud, can you tell me why you think Lisa would become a victim? Because she's a pushy loud white granny? How is she different  from Angela? Both are loud, pushy white grandmas. Just interested in more gossip, lol.

On 3/3/2020 at 1:18 PM, humbleopinion said:

The Darcey and the Stacey Real Girl Dolls with articulating joints and limbs...  multiple entry and exit holes for your adult entertainment pleasure....Reenact your favorite scenes from 90 Day Fiance in the privacy of your home, trailer, garage apartment.....

and she's programmed to speak only a few phrases on a date. Hello ______, wow, you look amazing. Your EYES!, they're amazing!  I love this space, you have acquessit taste. Yes, let's have a glass of bubbly. Do you like my outfit? Thank you for the greatest night of my life. Closes eyes, lowers head, pucker lips, tears commence. Messy Darcey.

I'm worried about thise Silva twins. I feel like we're witnessing history. Fascinating and tragic. 

23 hours ago, BallisticNikki said:

nvm

 

[DiamondGirl]

45 minutes ago, BallisticNikki said:

I wonder bc Paul and Karrine got mugged, Michael and Angela got (almost) carjacked) and Family Chantel got their weaves ripped out, faced clawed and asses whooped.😂

Those guys who tried to go after Michael were probably the ones in danger once Angela flung herself out of the car and dove in.  

[Mrs. Hanson]

Hey!  Let's lighten up! Look what showed up on my blending board today!!  I am outta here tonight, I brought work home.  Shocker!

[Spike]

I love Porn Star Granny.  Michael is an awful dad.

[Colfrmb2]

5 minutes ago, Spike said:

I love Porn Star Granny.  Michael is an awful dad.

Geoffrey is creepy dad.  The two boys we have seen appear to be holding their tongues every time he speaks.  

[mamadrama]

7 minutes ago, Kiss my mutt said:

I don’t give a rat’s ass about her tats. I have seven myself, but when my adult son comes home with a new tattoo and complains about money, I’m gonna lift an eyebrow. 
Not knowing the genesis of her tats, I can’t comment if she was struggling with money at the time. She played the single mom/no money card. Not anyone here. 
 I totally understood @Mrs. Hanson and did not feel she “singled” out anyone. 

I snark on all these muh fuggas the same. None of them are good parents from what I can see. 
 

 

Yeah, so far nobody is looking good yet.

Darcy reminds me of a lot of the 13 year olds I know-she thinks a proposal and a wedding are the end game. Or, er, the "prize." Spends all her time fantasizing about the proposal and wedding but doesn't put real work into the relationship.

[Baltimore Betty]

2 hours ago, InternetToughGuy said:

If that's the thing that will get me to an even 3 inches, sign me up

Sorry to disappoint you ITG but that is a lady only affliction.  I mean the PID thing not the small penis thing.

Edited March 5, 2020 by Baltimore Betty

[Baltimore Betty]

28 minutes ago, mamadrama said:

Yeah, so far nobody is looking good yet.

Darcy reminds me of a lot of the 13 year olds I know-she thinks a proposal and a wedding are the end game. Or, er, the "prize." Spends all her time fantasizing about the proposal and wedding but doesn't put real work into the relationship.

Darcy seems to forget she was married, she acts like she has never had a wedding.  

I do think she has a fatalistic take on life, like she sets herself up for disappointment because she wants men to feel sorry for her and she can play the victim but men don't want that shit, they want a strong, self assured woman...I would never describe Darcey using those words, pathetic, yes but strong, self assured, no.

[mamadrama]

5 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Darcy seems to forget she was married, she acts like she has never had a wedding.  

I do think she has a fatalistic take on life, like she sets herself up for disappointment because she wants men to feel sorry for her and she can play the victim but men don't want that shit, they want a strong, self assured woman...I would never describe Darcey using those words, pathetic, yes but strong, self assured, no.

Yeah, her actions and her words don't align. On her social media posts and in her voiceovers, both places where she has a lot of control over image, she talks about being a "queen" and a "strong woman". I bet she does in her DMs to guys, too. But once you turn Darcy loose and let her go in person, she completely falls apart. She can't keep up the "strong woman" facade because she lacks such basic self esteem. So she goes for victim. But yeah, most guys don't want that shit. The damsel in distress thing can only go so far and she pushes WAY past that point. 

Someone asked if her ex getting married last spring made things worse, but I'm betting it's partly her daughters coming of age. They're beautiful, natural teenagers and probably a reminder every single day that Darcy's, er, NOT natural and is no longer a young girl. Wouldn't surprise me if she's starting to feel some competition. 

She reminds me a bit of Blanche Deveroux, the main difference being that Blanche would never let a man see her fall apart-much less beg for his attention. 

[magemaud]

2 hours ago, Rt66vintage said:

On 3/3/2020 at 1:15 PM, magemaud said:

yes, that's probably the case. It still wouldn't surprise me if they were armed, though. Apparently Lisa is a prime kidnapping victim! 

@magemaud, can you tell me why you think Lisa would become a victim? Because she's a pushy loud white granny? How is she different  from Angela? Both are loud, pushy white grandmas. Just interested in more gossip, lol.

Just based on what I read about the dangers of kidnapping in Sojaboy's town (Kaduna) where the crime rate is higher than Michael's city (Lagos) although both women are probably safe being surrounded by a camera crew. Lisa herself even said she'd "stick out like a sore thumb" 

[magemaud]

3 hours ago, Rt66vintage said:

and she's programmed to speak only a few phrases on a date. Hello ______, wow, you look amazing. Your EYES!, they're amazing!  I love this space, you have acquessit taste. Yes, let's have a glass of bubbly. Do you like my outfit? Thank you for the greatest night of my life. Closes eyes, lowers head, pucker lips, tears commence. Messy Darcey.

You forgot, "I can see myself living here..." 

[mamadrama]

2 minutes ago, magemaud said:

You forgot, "I can see myself living here..." 

As they're literally driving from the airport (or restaurant in Tom's case) through town. I mean, I've said that about a lot of international cities I've visited but usually not until I've been there for at least a day-or until my feet have touched ground. 

[Spike]

18 minutes ago, mamadrama said:

Yeah, her actions and her words don't align. On her social media posts and in her voiceovers, both places where she has a lot of control over image, she talks about being a "queen" and a "strong woman". I bet she does in her DMs to guys, too. But once you turn Darcy loose and let her go in person, she completely falls apart. She can't keep up the "strong woman" facade because she lacks such basic self esteem. So she goes for victim. But yeah, most guys don't want that shit. The damsel in distress thing can only go so far and she pushes WAY past that point. 

Someone asked if her ex getting married last spring made things worse, but I'm betting it's partly her daughters coming of age. They're beautiful, natural teenagers and probably a reminder every single day that Darcy's, er, NOT natural and is no longer a young girl. Wouldn't surprise me if she's starting to feel some competition. 

She reminds me a bit of Blanche Deveroux, the main difference being that Blanche would never let a man see her fall apart-much less beg for his attention. 

She is probably terrified about becoming a grandmother, which may not be all that far away.  
 

Re tattoos I can only give my own interpretation but I don’t think anyone has said they are per se trashy.  Lord knows half the population seems to have them now, including many professionals and educated folk.  But they are a luxury in that they are a non-essential item, so to the extent anyone complains about their financial situation while displaying them is kind of inviting questioning,  True, they may have got them when they were single, but that money could have been saved for a rainy day.  You don’t have to spend every penny the minute you earn it.  So to me it is no different than If someone has a collection of electric guitars or first edition books but was crying poor.  And Avery doesn’t have a couple of modest ones.  She has sleeves that take many hours and cost a ton.  I collect CDs and people criticize that (I have thousands) but I don’t take many trips and drive a 2001 car.  And I don’t cry poor.

[InternetToughGuy]

34 minutes ago, mamadrama said:

They're beautiful, natural teenagers and probably a reminder every single day that Darcy's, er, NOT natural and is no longer a young girl.

How hard do women take aging? I can imagine all the attention suddenly drying up would be hard to handle. Men overall don't seem to care that much, possibly because most men weren't anything special when young anyways, though there seems to be a decent amount of young men online who think that despite being unattractive now, simply getting older will make them desirable to young women - pointing out their stupidity leads to them getting hostile. It's unbelievably stupid.

[mamadrama]

4 minutes ago, InternetToughGuy said:

How hard do women take aging? I can imagine all the attention suddenly drying up would be hard to handle. Men overall don't seem to care that much, possibly because most men weren't anything special when young anyways, though there seems to be a decent amount of young men online who think that despite being unattractive now, simply getting older will make them desirable to young women - pointing out their stupidity leads to them getting hostile. It's unbelievably stupid.

How hard they take it really depends on the woman. I'm 40 and look better now than I did when I was a teenager. 

17 minutes ago, Spike said:

She is probably terrified about becoming a grandmother, which may not be all that far away.  
 

Re tattoos I can only give my own interpretation but I don’t think anyone has said they are per se trashy.  Lord knows half the population seems to have them now, including many professionals and educated folk.  But they are a luxury in that they are a non-essential item, so to the extent anyone complains about their financial situation while displaying them is kind of inviting questioning,  True, they may have got them when they were single, but that money could have been saved for a rainy day.  You don’t have to spend every penny the minute you earn it.  So to me it is no different than If someone has a collection of electric guitars or first edition books but was crying poor.  And Avery doesn’t have a couple of modest ones.  She has sleeves that take many hours and cost a ton.  I collect CDs and people criticize that (I have thousands) but I don’t take many trips and drive a 2001 car.  And I don’t cry poor.

My original question, and the one I've asked several times since then, was where did Avery talk about being poor? If someone could direct me to that part of the episode then that would be awesome. I haven't given this series my undivided attention yet because I tend to tune out until they meet their foreign counterparts. 

[Spike]

5 minutes ago, mamadrama said:

How hard they take it really depends on the woman. I'm 40 and look better now than I did when I was a teenager. 

My original question, and the one I've asked several times since then, was where did Avery talk about being poor? If someone could direct me to that part of the episode then that would be awesome. I haven't given this series my undivided attention yet because I tend to tune out until they meet their foreign counterparts. 

She has made several comments about how the trip to Australia is so expensive and money is tight.  

[DaphneCat]

Finally watched this shit show yesterday and it took me until today to catch up on all the comments.

WHAT is the deal with all these people on this show who can't wait to smell the person they've been talking to?  I get pheromones are a big part of chemistry but  do people really go around sniffing each other like dogs?  Someone (Big Ed?) mentioned he couldn't wait to get over there and smell her, and Geoffery commented on how good Varya smelled.  I get if someone had a rank odor it would put you off but is that SERIOUSLY the first thing you think of when you are going to meet someone?

And yes, it's been commented on both in the live chat and here but is being a terrible packer a prerequisite for being on this show?  Throw random crap in a bag (Ed AND Lisa) and call yourself packed?

[mamadrama]

18 minutes ago, Spike said:

She has made several comments about how the trip to Australia is so expensive and money is tight.  

Yeah, I've heard those comments. As a former travel writer I can attest to that-traveling to Australia IS expensive. I made decent money but there was no way I could travel to that part of the world if Rough Guides hadn't been paying for it. The airfare alone was twice my mortgage. 

Now I'm confused as to where any of this tattoo conversation even got started. IMO money being too tight to go halfway around the world on a trip to see your internet crush is much different than being destitute and struggling to pay your bills or feed your kids. 

Edited March 5, 2020 by mamadrama

[Spike]

8 minutes ago, mamadrama said:

Yeah, I've heard those comments. As a former travel writer I can attest to that-traveling to Australia IS expensive. I made decent money but there was no way I could travel to that part of the world if Rough Guides hadn't been paying for it. The airfare alone was twice my mortgage. 

Now I'm confused as to where any of this tattoo conversation even got started. IMO money being too tight to go halfway around the world on a trip to see your internet crush is much different than being destitute and struggling to pay your bills or feed your kids. 

Well then I guess her choices are ill-considered for a middle class person as well lol   Especially when the florist in the promo says Ash has a merry go round of women in his life.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[magemaud]

35 minutes ago, mamadrama said:

Now I'm confused as to where any of this tattoo conversation even got started.

I’m afraid I may have inadvertently opened the tattoo can of worms when I asked if anyone knew what Avery’s tattoo said. Mea culpa 

Edited March 5, 2020 by magemaud

[mamadrama]

6 minutes ago, magemaud said:

I’m afraid I may have inadvertently opened the tattoo can of worms when I asked if anyone knew what Avery’s tattoo said. Mea culpa 

And we still never got an answer to that, did we? Damn it. Eh, I'm still convinced that Maci Bokout's shoulder tattoo is a used tissue. I can't see it as anything else. 

Now THAT is who we should be offended by-people who spend lots of money on bad tattoos. 

[OnceSane]

Y'all, that tattoo conversation went all the way left.  Snark is for the show, not your fellow posters.

[Mu Shu]

I thought the tattoo said slut. Or Stu. Or stop. A new hire at work has one across her neck that reads nasty bitch. We aren’t allowed to swear at work, so I’m pretty sure she was hiding that when she was hired. My cousin makes a great living tattooing people who blow their disability and SSI checks getting stupid stuff drawn on them. Ugly bulging cheek mutant pit bulls and ugly babies are popular. 

[InternetToughGuy]

4 hours ago, Mu Shu said:

My cousin makes a great living tattooing people who blow their disability and SSI checks getting stupid stuff drawn on them. Ugly bulging cheek mutant pit bulls and ugly babies are popular. 

When the pitbull inevitably mauls them, hopefully it'll bite those tattoos off so a real job becomes a possibility again. (and no, this is not an attack on any forum user's dog or tattooed corneas - I'm sure they look really cool)

[blubld43]

12 hours ago, InternetToughGuy said:

How hard do women take aging? I can imagine all the attention suddenly drying up would be hard to handle. Men overall don't seem to care that much, possibly because most men weren't anything special when young anyways, though there seems to be a decent amount of young men online who think that despite being unattractive now, simply getting older will make them desirable to young women - pointing out their stupidity leads to them getting hostile. It's unbelievably stupid.

Well, some of us are okay with it.  I'm 63, the lines on my face are normal!  I am still slim, which tends to read more youthful, I guess.  

I am enjoying your comments tremendously, I don't think there are many men who post here regularly!  Your humor cracks me up.

[Colfrmb2]

Speaking of finances, travel anywhere isn’t cheap.  But I would be shocked if these people have to pay for their transportation when they are filming the whole thing.  At the very least, it’s a tax deduction for them as a business expense.  The tv show is probably issuing them 1099 forms. Heck, write off the hair extensions and lip fillers, if you can

[BallisticNikki]

34 minutes ago, Colfrmb2 said:

Speaking of finances, travel anywhere isn’t cheap.  But I would be shocked if these people have to pay for their transportation when they are filming the whole thing.  At the very least, it’s a tax deduction for them as a business expense.  The tv show is probably issuing them 1099 forms. Heck, write off the hair extensions and lip fillers, if you can

They would have to be paying for Angela and Michael's. She's been over there 3 times and each time, she stays in a hotel for 3 weeks. 

I'm also curious about certain characters (stars? participants?) get different houses and others don't. Are the cars they drive their own? Does TLC ever pay for dowries, wedding receptions, atty's fees or counseling sessions? (I'm assuming the attys and counselors are actual practicing professionals?)

[hookedontv]

3 hours ago, blubld43 said:

Well, some of us are okay with it.  I'm 63, the lines on my face are normal!  I am still slim, which tends to read more youthful, I guess.  

I am enjoying your comments tremendously, I don't think there are many men who post here regularly!  Your humor cracks me up.

I'm OK with it too. I'm 53 and think I naturally look younger than that. I have more game now than when I was in my 30's, I stick with guys my own age who like that I'm confident and independent. I am not a skinny minny but I work with what I have and there've been no complaints! 😂 

[Mldh598]

22 hours ago, Spike said:

Teachers rock, especially special ed.

This times a million!!!!

[Baltimore Betty]

17 hours ago, mamadrama said:

As a former travel writer

Being a travel writer is my dream job, speaking of being a travel writer...that girl who has some weird health issue where a cold could kill her wants to travel to the Australian Outback to meet her soulmate said she was a travel writer so why is her mother so worried about her traveling now?