Episode Discussion II: The TFGH

[Daisy]

4 hours ago, statsgirl said:

Except now we will be forced into weeks of endless "poor Willow" taking over the show, and we'll have to feel sorry for Michael and Wylie. And Carly crowing how she was justified in keeping the secret because Nina is failing Willow again.

Yeah. I mean but it could be Lisel. - so keeping the secret still hurts because again they all could have been tested sooner. but i am just done with this. Carly keeps this monumental secret again and the only one mad at her is Nina and basically everyone is all "well Nina has no right to be." what is the point. like why bother telling the story if you're always going to end up with "Carly was "justified" all along?"

 

1 hour ago, KayVeeTeeVee said:

AMC's Erika Kane occasionally suffered consequences for her behavior, and had Jackson and Opal to call her out even more often. That made the character layered, something the GH writers to Snarly SheBeast fail to understand.  My dream would be for Erika, and maybe Victoria Lord Reilly to be put on the GH Board of Directors and, in some twisted story line, call out Carly in spectacular fashion.

I've been saying this forever. like. Jackson, Opal, Myrtle, Zach, Bianca.  when she was wrong, she was wrong. Same with OLTL'S Dorian. but we have Olivia saying that this was a great thing, Drew slept with her ewww, everyone is saying they'd do the same thing, ignoring the fact that this is like what the 4th time that Carly's hid the parentage of a child to "protect" them. And honestly. i kind of wish Monica was around (like. 2000 era Monica) because maybe she would have blasted Carly for doing that because of you know AJ.

 

3 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

I wonder if anyone will have the guts to tell her this. No, wait, Willow will say it and everyone will fall all over themselves to say they understand, she was concerned about the baby, blahblah excuses cakes. 

i would even take Willow admitting it and Michael in a fit of honesty saying "yeah. you done screwed up." like on twitter and yt comments are alll like "I can't believe Willow is suffering like this," "Willow's been through so much!!", "we need Willow to pull through this." 

and here i am going "I won't be sad if she died, y'all, let Mike escort her to Valhalla or something" like i am sorry. when Willow found out she was 2 seconds pregnant. And I am not diminishing her feelings in feeling upset about finding out she had cancer and was pregnant at the same time. But as a nurse she should have been aware of the fact of the type of cancer she had, how fast it spreads and ignoring treatment for "weeks" could just cause it to feed. and then hiding it for months where it is documented support is really great for beating cancer? how the hell am i supposed to rally for stupid deciisons like that. 

 

(the "worse" thing is we all know that Willow is going to live so there are no consequences at all to this story which is again dumb soap). 

4 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Finally, fuck you, Drew, with your "you didn't have to ever tell Nina, but you owed it to Willow."  So Mr. "It's best to tell the truth" would've been fine with keeping a secret from Nina forever.  Asshole.  Also...gross.  Thank god for the FF button.

Drewfus forever needs to shut up. 

[ffwbe]

Is Willow a popular character? I feel like she’s gotten A storylines since she debuted and I find her so blah. Why are they centering so many large storylines around her?

[Mirabelle]

I'm sure Willow has her fans but the people who run this show are not above shoving a character onto the canvas and into stories regardless of audience feedback *coughs*PETER and CODY*coughs

[Daisy]

42 minutes ago, ffwbe said:

Is Willow a popular character? I feel like she’s gotten A storylines since she debuted and I find her so blah. Why are they centering so many large storylines around her?

I honestly don't know. I mean they are known as Millowtonin for a reason lol

[Jenxee]

1 hour ago, Daisy said:

Carly keeps this monumental secret again and the only one mad at her is Nina and basically everyone is all "well Nina has no right to be." what is the point. like why bother telling the story if you're always going to end up with "Carly was "justified" all along?"

We waited 8 months for this secret to come out and it was such a soapy secret, one that once it came out, everyone on canvas shoulda hated Carly for a long time, and yet no one (but Nina) hates her for it?  You’re right Daisy, what the heck was the point?!!

I’m not a fan of Willow but I don’t want her to die.  I’ve liked Nina from the beginning, I always thought she was a fun, quirky gray character and I feel for her in this story.  I don’t want her to lose another child, even one as self righteous as Willow.  I want to see Nina and Willow forge a relationship.

I’m gonna miss Ava and Nikolas, today showed they still have chemistry.

I don’t hate Cody.  I just feel like they don’t know what to do with his character.

Poor Sasha when she finds out Gladys has been stealing from her.  Sasha can’t buy a break.

Couldn’t care less about Snarly and Drewfus. Whoever came up with “the Carlys” for Carly and Joss?  Love it lol!

I’m enjoying Sprina.  I catch myself smiling during their scenes.  Their friendship feels comfortable and I love how they make google eyes at each other lol.  Do they also tend to make bonehead choices?  Yes but I cut them some slack.  What are they, 19?  (No offense to 19 year olds).

[dubbel zout]

2 hours ago, DanaK said:

I remain surprised that Selena continues to lasso Gladys in with her gambling problem given she’s Sonny’s cousin, as Selena has been careful in the past not to step on his toes as the boss of Port Charles 

Gladys willingly started gambling, though. It's not as if she was tricked into it. I had to laugh when Gladys asked, "Are you sure?" when Selena told her what she owed and Selena replied, "Very sure. I've got an MBA in finance." Intentional humor!

I find it highly ironic (and incredibly exasperating) that Michael was fine with letting Willow decide not to have any treatment for months, yet he wouldn't give Nelle an hour to understand the nonemergency surgery for the idiot child. And Nelle was somehow the unreasonable one.

Carly saying keeping the secret was to protect Willow and not get revenge on Nina? Why not both? Those things are not mutually exclusive.

[DanaK]

Did it seem like there was a scene missing before Nina told Willow she wasn’t a match? We saw the gang waiting outside the room, but didn’t see people like Sonny arriving

[statsgirl]

Why would they not show Nina learning that she was a match? I was sure that I had missed a scene with that.

2 hours ago, TVbitch said:

Didn't Dex tell Michael in one of their very first scenes why he was doing this Sonny thing. Something like there was a violent situation with one of his military buddies and someone died and he couldn't protect them or do anything about it, and he wants to take Sonny down as sort of a penance or some shit like that? ...Does any once else remember anything like this. Knowing me, it is equally likely to be a false memory I am just pulling out of my ass. (or possibly implanted by Lizzy's mom.) 🤣 

 

Back when they were really pushing Dex as a vet, I remember him telling Michael that he couldn't save someone from his commanding officer so now he wants to take a Bad Man (Sonny) off the table to make up for it.

1 hour ago, Daisy said:

the "worse" thing is we all know that Willow is going to live so there are no consequences at all to this story which is again dumb soap). 

She's now part of Carly's cult so there are no real consequences for her now no matter how stupid or malicious she is.

5 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

I find it highly ironic (and incredibly exasperating) that Michael was fine with letting Willow decide not to have any treatment for months, yet he wouldn't give Nelle an hour to understand the nonemergency surgery for the idiot child. And Nelle was somehow the unreasonable one.

He really is a Carly. I wonder who picks out their clothes because they only see black and white -- white being their side, black anyone who doesn't constantly prop them.

[Cheyanne11]

33 minutes ago, Jenxee said:

Whoever came up with “the Carlys” for Carly and Joss?  Love it lol!

I don't remember, but it's really perfect.  Also, it includes Michael, too. 

[Daisy]

36 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

I find it highly ironic (and incredibly exasperating) that Michael was fine with letting Willow decide not to have any treatment for months, yet he wouldn't give Nelle an hour to understand the nonemergency surgery for the idiot child. And Nelle was somehow the unreasonable one.

 

so what was the reason why Willow decided not to have treatment after she reached her 2nd trimester?

[Mirabelle]

1 hour ago, Jenxee said:

 

I don’t hate Cody.  I just feel like they don’t know what to do with his character.

 

His ties to the show are tenuous and the character doesn't have any point right now. He should be the Hook's next murder victim but he won't be because he's friends with Frank. 

[Artsda]

Shouldn't Selina have an issue the fact she's dealing Sonny's family member?

No match, awesome let her die and Nina should be celebrating.

[Jenxee]

41 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

1 hour ago, Jenxee said:

 

I don't remember, but it's really perfect.  Also, it includes Michael, too. 

In that case might as well include Willow.  Drewfus, you may be next if you don’t grow a spine.

[GHScorpiosRule]

54 minutes ago, Daisy said:

so what was the reason why Willow decided not to have treatment after she reached her 2nd trimester?

Because she was told chemo could hurt the baby if she had it in the first trimester.

[Daisy]

9 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Because she was told chemo could hurt the baby if she had it in the first trimester.

Right.

But why didn't she have it in the 2nd trimester? (or she was told that too?)

[Asp Burger]

8 hours ago, ffwbe said:

Is Willow a popular character? I feel like she’s gotten A storylines since she debuted and I find her so blah. Why are they centering so many large storylines around her?

I suspect she's well liked. Katelyn is pretty; the character has gone through difficult things; she has generally been sympathetically portrayed. Even when she's behaved badly (sneaking around behind dying Chase's back with Michael, shrieking at Nina and wishing terrible things on her), the show has gone out of its way to do justice to her emotional POV. The writing attempts to protect her. 

But I suspect she's still the kind of character most viewers make up their minds about based on the characters to whom she's adjacent. Viewers who love Michael, Carly, and Josslyn probably love her too and think she's ideal. If the big storyline wheel turned a few times and she were involved with TJ or Cody or (I'll go crazy here) Kristina, I don't know if all of the same fans would follow her enthusiastically into those stories. 

[perkie1968]

Nina is still wearing the orange shirt from Monday, which means this whole week has been the same day. Monday she hadn't slept because she was waiting for the preliminary test results from "yesterday". "Yesterday" was when everyone found out that Wilow was sick and Nina was her mother. So basically, Drew found out "yesterday" that Carly's pants are on fire from all the lying and "today" he's forgiven her enough to have sex with her. So he was mad for almost 48 hours. I've had food poisoning that lasted longer than that.

[sunnyface]

Lines up with the latest recompense from her insider trading.  Carly had MULTIPLE people offer to 'give' her half of the hotel back to her - including her current main-event/big-tent opponent.

[ffwbe]

I do find it hilarious that they’ve had Nina focused only Willow since finding out she was sick and worried about her. Meanwhile, her supposed loved ones Carly and Joss have mostly been worried about justifying their lying and getting laid. They certainly aren’t acting line Willow is on her deathbed. Lol though she probably doesn’t deserve better because I think she’d do the same if she were in their position 

[Liddy52]

8 hours ago, Daisy said:

Right.

But why didn't she have it in the 2nd trimester? (or she was told that too?)

It seemed that they completely skipped her 2nd trimester with no explanation.  The first trimester was about 7 months long it seemed,  the second nonexistent,  and who knows how long this third one will be. 

[Gigi43]

19 minutes ago, ffwbe said:

I do find it hilarious that they’ve had Nina focused only Willow since finding out she was sick and worried about her. Meanwhile, her supposed loved ones Carly and Joss have mostly been worried about justifying their lying and getting laid. They certainly aren’t acting line Willow is on her deathbed. Lol though she probably doesn’t deserve better because I think she’d do the same if she were in their position 

 

Yeah, the Joss/Cam scene was extra bad for Joss even before her attitude and threats started because he went there thinking she was probably distraught about Willow like a decent person would be. But no, she was getting laid and ordering food with Mobby bf. Like Mother like daughter because now Carly's all about hitting the sheets with Drew. Sonny is being less selfish, focused on Nina (which is about Willow and he's not trying to get Nina in bed) and Michael than Carly/Joss. 

[GHScorpiosRule]

22 hours ago, Gam2 said:

Excuse me? Where are Anna, Val and Lucy?!

22 hours ago, RedElf said:

They went into hiding.

In Paris.

 

20 hours ago, DanaK said:

Did it seem like there was a scene missing before Nina told Willow she wasn’t a match? We saw the gang waiting outside the room, but didn’t see people like Sonny arriving

There certainly was. They neither showed us the lab telling Nina that she wasn't a match, so we could see her reaction; nor did they show Ned, Brookie, and SLS being informed of the same. They just cut to Willow and Nina showing up to tell her.

I mean, why show us the reaction and how it devastated Nina? Instead we get stupid flashbacks to remind Cody that the Gladys he knows is the same person who is Sasha's mother-in-law.

Even though it means nothing, I got giddy at the Robin shout out, instead of her being lumped in with "the girls" statement to Mac. I take my small pleasures where I can.

And color me shocked that Willow was actually civil to Nina.

Edited January 27, 2023 by GHScorpiosRule

[rur]

9 hours ago, Daisy said:

Right.

But why didn't she have it in the 2nd trimester? (or she was told that too?)

We saw her having a treatment once it became her second trimester. But apparently in GH land, patients only need one. But then, her second trimester was much shorter than her first.

[ffwbe]

34 minutes ago, rur said:

We saw her having a treatment once it became her second trimester. But apparently in GH land, patients only need one. But then, her second trimester was much shorter than her first.

The timing was really off. She said she started chemo the moment the first trimester was up, did 1 round and suddenly she’s 8 months pregnant when they are talking g about the second round. The cycles are much closer together than that. It’s clear they put no thought into her part of the storyline.
 

I don’t get why they needed to make her pregnant for this SL. They could have just as easily said that the cancer was a later stage the moment she found out and done the same story. Dragging it out for months wasn’t interesting and it would have made Willow look way less dumb than the choice of hiding her diagnosis from everyone. Also would have saved us from a second devil spawn because you know this kid is going to end up as just a big a brat as Wiley and his daddy.

[Cheyanne11]

1 hour ago, ffwbe said:

I don’t get why they needed to make her pregnant for this SL.

Cause we all needed to be humbled at Willow, Brave and Strong, forgoing treatment to save her unborn child.  :eyeroll:

Honestly, the hilarity is that this storyline is supposed to be seen as high-stakes, when the exact opposite is true: we know Willow and the baby are both going to be fine*, Carly hasn't been called out for keeping the secret, and everyone agrees Nina is the worst simply because the Carlys say she is.  Ho-fucking-hum.

*Prove me wrong, show.  Prove. Me. Wrong.  

Edited January 27, 2023 by Cheyanne11

[dubbel zout]

1 hour ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

And color me shocked that Willow was actually civil to Nina.

I thought she was a bit bitchy. There was some attitude when Nina came in to tell her she wasn't a match. It's not as if Nina would barge in just two visit. Ugh, the way everyone automatically assumes Nina is up to no good is exhausting to watch

1 hour ago, rur said:

We saw her having a treatment once it became her second trimester. But apparently in GH land, patients only need one.

As someone who has lost count of the number of chemo treatments she's had, I found this so dumb (and kind of insulting). It's why I wish they'd given her a made-up soap disease. That gives the writers free rein for everything.

[GHScorpiosRule]

33 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

I thought she was a bit bitchy. There was some attitude when Nina came in to tell her she wasn't a match. It's not as if Nina would barge in just two visit.

Considering that all their scenes are of the SPO screaming at Nina, I took this one to be civil, heh.

But point taken.

33 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

As someone who has lost count of the number of chemo treatments she's had, I found this so dumb (and kind of insulting).

Ditto. I still remember that while I felt like shit and had no appetite for at least a week and a half after a treatment, the week before the next one, I'd feel better and able to eat.

With the SPO, though? Just ONE treatment, had her oh so weak; and I guess puking? for what? weeks? FUCKING INSULTING. Oh yeah, the ponytail with the straggling hair should have also let others know she was sick.

Edited January 27, 2023 by GHScorpiosRule

[YaddaYadda]

15 hours ago, Daisy said:

(the "worse" thing is we all know that Willow is going to live so there are no consequences at all to this story which is again dumb soap). 

That's this show's gravest sin. There are never consequences for the Carlys. They can behave like the worst people ever, they'll get chastised for a hot minute before everybody starts worshipping at that altar.

13 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

I don't remember, but it's really perfect.  Also, it includes Michael, too. 

That was me. The Carlys include Carly, her children and Willow.

1 hour ago, ffwbe said:

I don’t get why they needed to make her pregnant for this SL. They could have just as easily said that the cancer was a later stage the moment she found out and done the same story. Dragging it out for months wasn’t interesting and it would have made Willow look way less dumb than the choice of hiding her diagnosis from everyone. Also would have saved us from a second devil spawn because you know this kid is going to end up as just a big a brat as Wiley and his daddy.

I thought they did that to draw a parallel between her and Nina. But considering how well this storyline is going, I think they made her pregnant for the sake of making her pregnant. Which really isn't a stretch for these writers.

[MarciNJ]

15 hours ago, statsgirl said:

 

She's now part of Carly's cult so there are no real consequences for her now no matter how stupid or malicious she is.

 

well, to be fair, Willow is most comfortable in a cult environment, given her upbringing....

[Daisy]

2 minutes ago, MarciNJ said:

well, to be fair, Willow is most comfortable in a cult environment, given her upbringing....

 which she thinks is a-okay compared to whatever Nina would have given her

[Cheyanne11]

5 minutes ago, MarciNJ said:

Willow is most comfortable in a cult environment, given her upbringing....

 

2 minutes ago, Daisy said:

 which she thinks is a-okay compared to whatever Nina would have given her

Once Willow gets well (because, of course she will), there should be moments of curiosity and self-reflection, where she goes to Nina and wants to know about Silas and their life, etc, and realizes how if fate (aka Madeline) hadn't interfered she would have had a much better life.  Of course, the Carlys would probably be there to tell her that Nina would've been an awful helicopter mom, not to mention having Nelle for a sister.  Much better that she was given to a woman who allowed her to be raped, for sure. /sarcasm

[hcs]

13 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

 

Once Willow gets well (because, of course she will), there should be moments of curiosity and self-reflection, where she goes to Nina and wants to know about Silas and their life, etc, and realizes how if fate (aka Madeline) hadn't interfered she would have had a much better life.  Of course, the Carlys would probably be there to tell her that Nina would've been an awful helicopter mom, not to mention having Nelle for a sister.  Much better that she was given to a woman who allowed her to be raped, for sure. /sarcasm

Moments of self reflection?  From Willow...?  At this point Wily is more self aware than Willow is

[statsgirl]

5 hours ago, Gigi43 said:

But no, she was getting laid and ordering food with Mobby bf. Like Mother like daughter because now Carly's all about hitting the sheets with Drew. Sonny is being less selfish, focused on Nina (which is about Willow and he's not trying to get Nina in bed) and Michael than Carly/Joss. 

But Joss and Carly felt so, so, so terrible for what they did, they needed to be absolved by sex with a spineless worshipper.

[Daisy]

43 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Of course, the Carlys would probably be there to tell her that Nina would've been an awful helicopter mom, not to mention having Nelle for a sister.  Much better that she was given to a woman who allowed her to be raped, for sure. /sarcasm

And you know. it never occurs to them at all WHY Nina is so dialed to eleven when it comes to parenting or family. They keep throwing into her face that she was in a coma,  and she couldn't raise her kids so blegh bleh blegh, without once stopping to go.. oh yeah, right.. 

If Madeline hadn't done what she did. chances are Nina doesn't have as many mental issues that she has now (I am assuming being pumped full of drugs didn't help her), Nelle wouldn't have had the same issues (because god forbid the show links that thing together vs just saying she was psycho for being psycho sake)  and we've seen that Willow has had some moments of mental instability as well. She and Silas would have raised their twins and been somewhat relatively normal.  Nelle wouldn't have needed revenge for being used as a body part shop and Carly abandoning her, Willow wouldn't have been raised on cult communes and pimped out for the leader.
 
Why NO One has brought this up to the Carlys etc, or even the Carlys themselves in a moment of self reflection is beyond me. I don't even need them to believe it - but just SAY IT OUT LOUD. because honestly, WILEY  will be asking these questions. so is Baby Golden Spawn.

Nina was robbed of 20 years, a life of her husband, and two daughters, the chance of knowing her grandchildren and everyone just handwaves it with "well you deserve all your suffering." (makes you wish AJ was still alive because he'd be able to relate)

[dubbel zout]

4 minutes ago, Daisy said:

Nina was robbed of 20 years, a life of her husband, and two daughters, the chance of knowing her grandchildren and everyone just handwaves it with "well you deserve all your suffering."

She didn't tell people Sonny was alive for the eight months they were in Nixon Falls. If that doesn't scream "she deserves it," I don't know what does.

[Daisy]

10 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

She didn't tell people Sonny was alive for the eight months they were in Nixon Falls. If that doesn't scream "she deserves it," I don't know what does.

you are right. clearly not thinking. 

[ffwbe]

I really need to stop watching live so I can ffw. I did think the Laura/Victor/Alexis and Anna/Robert/Felicia scenes were good, Ava/Nikolas were ok but the rest was unwatchable. I’m so tired of the cancer crew and their boring story

[statsgirl]

Nina:  "Of course Saint Carly will be forgiven because she was protecting Willow from evil me who no one would ever want as a mother. And now that I'm not a bone marrow match there's no foul, no harm. We know that that is what Carly is going to say and people will buy it , you just wait and see."

Show, just because you lampshade it, doesn't make the crappy writing okay.

Nice scenes with Nina and Ava.  That's character development, something the Carlys very much need.

"Is there any reason we had to bring him here?" "It was vital."  "Otherwise Lucy would have driven us crazy."  I cannot express how much more fun Lucy/Martin are than Carly/Drew.

Nice moment from FH that as Robert is saying any plan that puts Valentine six feet under is good with him, Anna mouths 'oh stop'. A callback to Robert being jealous of any other man who Anna gets together with.

I also liked Robert remembering Laura on the run from Frank Smith and the Cassadines. It's good seeing Robert/Anna/Felicia/Laura in a caper again. As Felicia said, it's good to have the gang back together.

Except for the Carly/Drew/Michael/Willow/Wylie scenes, good show today.  It's too bad that it ended on a sour note, Nina going to Britt's memorial, seeing Carly hugging Drew, Carly who has everything but won't give an inch for anyone not of her tribe.

It's too obvious that the kid playing Wylie is looking at someone offstage to cue him. They really need to use him less.

 

[YaddaYadda]

Aww, Willow has a built-in safe fail with her contrived pregnancy. Isn't it sweet for the no consequence crew to once again come on top!

I wonder if the actors flip to the end of the script where it says AND YOU WIN!!!! 

Of course, Nina hovering near where Carly and Drew are means she'll find out something she's not supposed to know, which means her ass is about to be vilified when she "victimizes" Carly over that dumb insider trade secret. 

Whoever came up with the name Drewfus deserves my undying gratitude for their creativity. That dude is a fucking moron.

I enjoy Ava/Nina friendship. 

I could not give a rat's ass about the Paris storyline / now in some PC safehouse storyline or that they want Victor to believe that Valentin is dead. I don't even know if Victor actually loves or cares about Valentin since he is so very wishy washy on him. But family, and Cassadine Assemble for whatever is coming, I guess.

I don't remember the rest.

[CeChase]

Oh yes, stop torturing yourself and watch either on dvr, or hulu.  Once you take control of what you want to see, you don't have to get pissed off.  In fact, there's a real satisfaction for me every time I see that smug orange face and click "FF". 

[mostlylurking]

I know it’s been said over and over but I’m gonna go ahead and say it again….I am seriously PISSED that Carly is facing ZERO repercussions for keeping the Nina secret. It’s just bad storytelling. It’s not dramatic or soapy at all. I mean I knew eventually she would be forgiven but I thought she would be a pariah for at least a few minutes. We have gotten NOTHING. I watch this dreck for the drama….this is just making me mad.

And the only way Carly would have faced a shred of consequence was if Nina was a match but Willow still died because she had gotten too sick. Now that’s not happening and it’s done. Carly gets away scot free. How ridiculous and lame. 

[30 Helens]

Given how the show keeps reminding us that siblings make the best bone marrow donors, I fully expect a sibling to show up at the last minute. But who will it be? Nelle? 
A new reveal? Dex? Cody, to give him purpose?
Horse?

I’ll be taking bets in Ms. Wu’s back parlor.

[Daisy]

21 minutes ago, mostlylurking said:

And the only way Carly would have faced a shred of consequence was if Nina was a match but Willow still died because she had gotten too sick. Now that’s not happening and it’s done. Carly gets away scot free. How ridiculous and lame. 

and you know, we cant even take comfort with Carly being slammed with insider trading because she'll figure out a way to slide that too

 

[dubbel zout]

Nice to see Nina finally direct her anger at Carly, but

15 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Nina:  "Of course Saint Carly will be forgiven because she was protecting Willow from evil me who no one would ever want as a mother. And now that I'm not a bone marrow match there's no foul, no harm. We know that that is what Carly is going to say and people will buy it , you just wait and see."

Show, just because you lampshade it, doesn't make the crappy writing okay.

the show does this a lot, and it doesn't make the crappy writing okay.

9 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

I enjoy Ava/Nina friendship. 

Same. I know @jsbt can't handle it (hee), but CW's Nina is so different from MSt's that it works for me.

OMG, Wiley is the one to convince Willow to have her stupid kid? I am without speech here.

I love how Drewfus and Carly think they're fooling anybody as "just friends." And why hasn't the show followed through on the insider trading threat? We all know nothing will happen, but can't Carly be in the hot seat for more than half an episode?

Felicia's delighted face after they walked Martin into the cabin was adorable. I also liked Robert's memory of Laura on the run from Frank Smith and holding the Cassadines at bay with a machine gun.

"Oh, get a room, you two." "What a good idea, Robert. [to Martin] Guess what? We have a room!" Hee.

Laura and Alexis's gloating was fun to see. Though Laura, Britt did not "die a hero." Saving Joss was the worst thing she ever did, and that includes the baby lie.

[ffwbe]

Did I miss something on why they Terry didn’t mention using cord blood before? They were going to induce her even if they found a donor. It just reeks of the show trying to find their way out of this story in the most anticlimactic way possible 

[YaddaYadda]

2 minutes ago, ffwbe said:

Did I miss something on why they Terry didn’t mention using cord blood before? They were going to induce her even if they found a donor. It just reeks of the show trying to find their way out of this story in the most anticlimactic way possible 

No you did not. There never was any mention of stem cells on the show, unlike how it was mentioned on the board.

They just wanted to have the reveal that Nina is Willow's mother and have the Carlys owe her nothing and suffer zero consequences for any of this. 

This cancer storyline is a complete joke. I hope I never ever have to deal with cancer, but my cousin's 4 year old has leukemia and he has been in treatment for over a year and half for this and I find this whole thing in absolute bad taste.

[Cheyanne11]

2 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

This cancer storyline is a complete joke.

It's the fucking worst.  No consequences for Carly's lie, Willow is going to recover, and Nina is left out in the cold.  Truly shitty writing.

[Katy M]

56 minutes ago, 30 Helens said:

Given how the show keeps reminding us that siblings make the best bone marrow donors, I fully expect a sibling to show up at the last minute. But who will it be? Nelle? 
A new reveal? Dex? Cody, to give him purpose?
Horse?

I’ll be taking bets in Ms. Wu’s back parlor.

A half sibling wouldn't be any better of a match than a parent (I wouldn't think, i'm assuming the reason a sibling is the best is because like the patient they have DNA from both parents), and that could only be Nelle unless it turned out Nina had triplets and that would be too much, or if it turns out Nelle wasn't really hers after all. I can't remember, was there any DNA done on that one?

12 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

It's the fucking worst.  No consequences for Carly's lie, Willow is going to recover, and Nina is left out in the cold.  Truly shitty writing.

I'm willing to see how Willow and Nina's relationship goes. TBH, I think it's better that they get to find their way without having the feeling of obligation due to the bone marrow. 

[Cheyanne11]

The baby is going to save its mother and they'll name her Destiny Carly to show Carly that she was actually right to keep vital information from Willow.  They workshopped adding IrrelevantNina as a middle name but couldn't make it work. #IHateThisShow

Edited January 27, 2023 by Cheyanne11

[YaddaYadda]

11 minutes ago, Katy M said:

I can't remember, was there any DNA done on that one?

If a necklace counts as DNA, then yes.