Episode Discussion II: The TFGH

[GHScorpiosRule]

4 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Best part of the episode:  Brook Lynn kicking Lois and Gloria out.

💯!!! And also how Gio told her to basically shut up which had her stumble/take a step back.

Of Course we don’t have Ric objecting and the judge sustaining all of Cujo’s editorializing/assuming what was in Willow’s mind. And we don’t see him questioning her heffa-ass, either. But we see him questioning Tracy? Loved her line to Drew about the ketamine, though.🤣🤣🤣🤣

I continue to roll my eyes at all the women’s faces with full on make-up when they are AT.THE.POOL.

And Dalton absolutely is NOT AT ALL CREEPY  with the way he was eyeing Emma.

Dante, please shut up. The circumstances under which Olivia kept you from Mooby are NOT THE SAME as Brook Lynn’s. Olivia was right to do so, because Mooby was/is a fucking mob boss murdering thug. You think you would have become a cop if Olivia had told him?

Also, please STFU, Jason.

How no one can tell that Alexis is lying is beyond me. She used to be good at lying. Now she’s got that pinched look that it’s obvious she’s lying. So in addition to embezzling and paying blackmail, now she has to do everything Ric is telling her to do? Where is her inner CASSADINE?!

And finally, Lois, take a gazillion SEATS AND STFUADIAF, please. Gio has his Quartemaine family to look out and care for him. Oh, wait. I forgot-they are TEH EVUHL.

6 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

There was a weird echo in the courtroom scenes,

I noticed that as well. It was annoying.

8 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Gio, stop with the "no one wanted me" crap. I get you're resentful. That's valid. But you're old enough to understand the position BL was in. How about listening to her with something of an open mind?

Thank you! I was thinking the same thing! I said before that she was younger than he is now when she got pregnant.

[mostlylurking]

Hi all!  I finally tuned back in after a long hiatus because life.  I just caught up on the nurses ball.  I’ll be honest…I loved it.  It’s just a whisper of what it used to be (mostly everyone looked like they were wearing everyday clothes and hair….don’t get me started on Brooklyn’s outfit) but I still love all the cheesy acts and the awkward seat dancing.  It’s so good.

New Emma is fantastic.  And you know that phrase “she would look gorgeous even wearing a paper bag”?  Well…change paper bag to orange sack dress and you have Emma.  She’s so beautiful.  And I love her friendship with Gio.  She was actually crying for him!  Last time I watched Gio was pretty useless but let me tell you he brought it with those scenes.  I actually gasped at him breaking the violin.  He’s grown a lot.

Now onto the big lie…..well obviously Lois and her “ma” are most to blame but I understand why everyone is also mad at Lulu.  I’m glad everything came out the way it did because it’s soapy but come on…..there was NO BETTER TIME?!  And I can understand Brooklyn and Lois keeping things a secret at first and everyone freaking out, but once things calmed down you would think cooler heads would prevail.  Especially since Dante was not just a random fling they were never going to see again.  This was a person who was in their lives constantly.

I got pissed at Lois telling Olivia she was no longer “fun” after becoming a teenaged mother and didn’t want the same for Brook.  Umm….what??  Is that supposed to be a justification?  And then Gloria has to come on and spout off to Brooke about respect….newsflash “ma”…..respect is earned and I would also be a little miffed if I found out my mother and grandmother decided to hide my baby under my nose for two decades.  Take a seat.  Rena Sofer is totally gorgeous though with the minimal makeup look so there’s that.  It was weird that she was still in her Nurses Ball outfit but took off her hair and makeup though.

New Michael is an upgrade.  Love Willows haircut but literally fast forwarded through everything Willow and Drew.  It’s just uncomfortable.  More Lucky please.  There’s actually a lot going on right now that’s interesting, surprisingly.

[Daisy]

2 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Gio, stop with the "no one wanted me" crap. I get you're resentful. That's valid. But you're old enough to understand the position BL was in. How about listening to her with something of an open mind?

 

that is bothering me. like you're not a kid. that's a kid reaction. Be mad about being lied to about being adopted, not the fact that you were given up. the fact that Camilla took you in and raised you showed that you were wanted.  

And his whole "you didn't even consider it." well she told you. She wasn't in the position t raise a baby and wanted to give you your best life. that was it. 

2 hours ago, ciarra said:

BL should say, "I could have chosen abortion.  Why didn't I?".

the bark of laughter i laughed. honestly. Gio is acting like he was raised by wolves. 
 

2 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

I loved how Alexis shut down Kristina's whining with "when you've tried to kill someone and hurt two other people, you don't get to complain about how I cover it up for you." Kristina is such a dunderhead.

 

I am so over Kristina. I will say, regardless of how Ric is handling this, the fact that he gave Alexis a heads up was nice (even though it kinda dissolved from there). but her butt needs to be in jail. and Alexis is dumbo right now. so the levels of care i have for her isn't really that high.
 

2 hours ago, statsgirl said:

• Once again, the lawyer opposite the Corinthii doesn't bring up the really damning points like how dangerous it is to be around Sonny, or how Carly got court orders taking the children away without Willow knowing about them.
•  

 

honestly. i don't know why they are wasting our time. just fastforward to "We're giving permanent full custody to Michael," have Willow scream nooooooo Carly looks smug, and maybe Michael has a heart before he goes. "shoulda dumped the boyfriend, Willow." and walk off. 

They also were totally tiptoeing over HOW exactly Michael and Willow started their affair on Chase. Michael wasn't all. "Oh i'll leave you alone and let you be married." he was always around her, and going "how unfair this was." and crap like that. I'm Pepperidge Farms here, Show. I WILL ALWAYS remember. 


 

Edited Tuesday at 10:24 PM by Daisy

[dubbel zout]

37 minutes ago, Daisy said:

I'm Pepperidge Farms here, Show. I WILL ALWAYS remember. 

I am also Pepperidge Farms. I hate it when the show ignores this stuff while at the same time it brings it up. They always try to have it both ways. YOU CAN'T.

[KittyQ]

41 minutes ago, Daisy said:

1 hour ago, dubbel zout said:

Gio, stop with the "no one wanted me" crap. I get you're resentful. That's valid. But you're old enough to understand the position BL was in. How about listening to her with something of an open mind?

 

that is bothering me. like you're not a kid. that's a kid reaction. Be mad about being lied to about being adopted, not the fact that you were given up. the fact that Camilla took you in and raised you showed that you were adopted.  

And his whole "you didn't even consider it." well she told you. She wasn't in the position t raise a baby and wanted to give you your best life. that was it. 

I agree - his whole argument is about who "didn't want him", not acknowledging the people who DID want him, and took care of him until they couldn't, and he was grown. I am not adopted, so I don't know how much of this is authentic, but he doesn't want to hear why Brook Lynn did what she did - she didn't have an abortion, which really does mean she didn't "want him", and she wanted him to have a family that could take care of him.

Maybe he'll eventually give it more thought and see things more objectively, but for now, he's going to be easy pickings for Sonny's "grandpa" care. Will he become a violin-toting mobster? 

[Daisy]

1 minute ago, KittyQ said:

Maybe he'll eventually give it more thought and see things more objectively, but for now, he's going to be easy pickings for Sonny's "grandpa" care. Will he become a violin-toting mobster? 

i swear to goodness, if he does. I hope he just ends up like Justice, just. pew pew, and he's gone real quick.

[rur]

25 minutes ago, KittyQ said:

Maybe he'll eventually give it more thought and see things more objectively, but for now, he's going to be easy pickings for Sonny's "grandpa" care. Will he become a violin-toting mobster? 

Well, he's already got an empty violin case . . . they're useful for other things. 😉

[KittenPokerCheater]

2 hours ago, jacourt said:

 

Why are Sonny’s sleeves so long. 

 

How tall is he again?  Maybe they’re not getting the right sized clothes?

[sashabear21]

I wish Alexis would get tired of cleaning after Kristina's mess and would just go full ham like Faye Dunaway in Mommie Dearest all, "KRISTINAAAAAAAA, Clean up this mess!!!" 

[TVbitch]

Agree that somebody cranked the "Sound Effects: Echo Chamber" knob to full Spinal Tap 11 on the courtroom scenes. 

Any episode that includes Dante telling Sonny he ownes him an apology (of which there are suprisingly many) makes me 😡🙄🤷🏻‍♀️! I mean, seriously, telling Sonny he's sorry he made it so hard for them to be close after learning Sonny was his father?! Um, maybe that's 'cuz you were recuperating from being shot point blank in the chest execution style by a sadistic mobster, Dante!

[Nique]

22 hours ago, sashabear21 said:

I hope Gloria tries the "You should be grateful!!" bullshit with Gio and he flings his backup violin at her head.  

🤣🤣🤣🤣He needs to spread the wealth when it comes to taking the violin upside motherfuckers head. Looloo, Lois should be next in line and hopefully it's a thick one to penetrate that 5 head forehead of ShrewLu. If were lucky it will send her right back into a coma with her mouth glued shut🙏🏿

[mostlylurking]

3 hours ago, Daisy said:

3 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Gio, stop with the "no one wanted me" crap. I get you're resentful. That's valid. But you're old enough to understand the position BL was in. How about listening to her with something of an open mind?

 

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that is bothering me. like you're not a kid. that's a kid reaction. Be mad about being lied to about being adopted, not the fact that you were given up. the fact that Camilla took you in and raised you showed that you were wanted.  

I agree with all of this but also it’s been like less than 24 hours. Lol. Gio is still in his irrational feels and I think that’s understandable. 

Brooklyn really got to me when she said she used to babysit for Gio and all the while she didn’t know he was her son. Same but to a lesser extent Olivia saying she held Gio as a baby without knowing he was her grandson. Like, that’s just diabolical of Lois and Gloria. And Camilla. That's some messed up shit. 

[ulkis]

Ric: did Willow cheat on you?

Chase: maaaaaAAAAyyyyYYYYbEEEEE?

[Cheyanne11]

Well, aside from BL kicking out Lois and Gloria (of course not before they both tried to gaslight both BL and Gio), today was annoying.  I can only guess that Ric basically having his ass handed to him by Diane is so when he gets Sasha on the stand it's the BIG REVEAL!  

Also, Carly flat-out lied today that Wiley and Amelia were upset when Willow was taking them to Nina's right after the sex tape reveal, but hey, Carly's gonna Carly and she's gonna do it in the smugest way possible.  

[statsgirl]

12 hours ago, Perkie said:

None.  The Nurse's Ball was "last night"

It feels like it because Lois is still wearing the same clothes but Gio and Emma somehow managed to squeeze in a trip to Niagara Falls and back. Weird

4 hours ago, mostlylurking said:

 I would also be a little miffed if I found out my mother and grandmother decided to hide my baby under my nose for two decades.  Take a seat.  

And how Dante must feel, knowing you Gio but not knowing that he was his son.  There was Gio, fatherless all his life, and motherless when he was 12. Were Lois and Gloria never going to tell Dante so that Gio could have a father in his life?  But sure, Lois made sure that Sonny was involved.

Were they planning to never tell Dante?

Also this:

31 minutes ago, mostlylurking said:

Brooklyn really got to me when she said she used to babysit for Gio and all the while she didn’t know he was her son. Same but to a lesser extent Olivia saying she held Gio as a baby without knowing he was her grandson. Like, that’s just diabolical of Lois and Gloria. And Camilla. That's some messed up shit. 

 

Edited Yest. at 12:25 AM by statsgirl

[ulkis]

I read some comments saying Tracy should have been the one to kick Glo and Lo out but while I would not have minded that, it was Brook Lynn's moment to do that. 

I don't mind Gio not trusting his parents but it feels contrived that he doesn't want to know the rest of his family. Not that I want it per se but I feel like Brook Lynn and Dante hooking up is the only way for the rest of this to have co consequences, because Gio holding a grudge for months will just make him seem like a brat. (But not Chase and Lulu please! That's cliche and makes no sense and Lulu and him give older/younger sibling vibes).

On 6/2/2025 at 5:22 PM, rur said:

Also, on a shallow note, that long hair is doing Rena no favors, even if it's supposed to show how distraught she is. 

Montage of Lois, Lulu, Nina, NuMichael, Sasha going to the salon and cutting/shaping their hair. My body is ready!

[lala2]

1 hour ago, mostlylurking said:

Brooklyn really got to me when she said she used to babysit for Gio and all the while she didn’t know he was her son. . . . Like, that’s just diabolical of Lois and Gloria. And Camilla. That's some messed up shit. 

Same! This is the part I cannot get over and it's why I'm Team Brook Lynn. It is insane that BL was babysitting her own son and didn't even know it. There is no excuse for that. As BL said, if Lois changed the plan, Lois should have told BL what she was thinking of doing. This (giving a teen's baby to a family member to raise as their own) used to happen all the time in the past from what I'm told. BL deserved to know. I'm so outraged on BL's behalf. I loved her telling off her mother and grandmother and kicking them out! Lois can't even say she regrets not telling BL or admit that that was the wrong choice. In what world is it okay that BL is living down the hall from her own freaking son and doesn't know it?!?! Lois and Gloria can miss me w/all their justifications! Those BL/Gio/Lois/Gloria scenes were the best for today. 

NGL . . . I muted the custody trial. Let's just skip to Michael winning (of course he will, he's a Corinthos) and Willow getting a 15-minute supervised visit w/them. 🙄I don't know why they drag these things out when the winner is a foregone conclusion. 

I did love Alexis’s line to Kristina at the end! Kristina is beyond delusional. She had a lot of nerve, criticizing her mom who is only doing all this to protect her! Alexis is a moron because when Rava came to me with their evidence, I would have told them to do what they had to do! Kristina needs to face some consequences for what she did! They wouldn’t have been able to blackmail me! 

 

Edited Yest. at 01:09 AM by lala2

[Perkie]

56 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

It feels like it because Lois is still wearing the same clothes but Gio and Emma somehow managed to squeeze in a trip to Niagara Falls and back. Weird

Yep!   But Dante stopped by Lulu's to talk to Rocco, and one of them specifically said "at the Nurse's Ball last night" and from there Dante went to Sonny's and then the courthouse.   So, it's some point on the day after the ball, within the last 24 hours.  

So to me, Gio gets a pass for still being gobsmacked at the WTFness of it all.  

[ljr]

Does Lois still work for deception? 
I don’t understand what camp Brooklyn and Dante went to. Was it coed?

Who will fall in the pool this year?

Did Emma sleep with her teacher?

[Artsda]

Alexis is blindly stupid with Ric.  Kristina isn't wrong that Alexis is just going to keep jumping at Ric's demands.  Alexis should have been fighting back to Ric that ok put her on the stand let's see what she says about Ric illegal blackmail. Alexis has no smarts to fight him back? 

Dante knows something up now too. Alexis just dumb. 

Why are Brooklyn and her mother acting like Brooklyn had no means to raise Gio?  She wasn't going to ever be a poor unwed teen mother who had to fend her herself.  Brooklyn could have come back to Port Charles, have staff, nanny help. Even in Brooklyn what happened to all this street of family, Lois had money from divorce, the grandmother and cousin's wouldn't help babysitting? 

Gloria needs to just be slapped for how she takes no responsibility or believe she did anything wrong. 

At least someone finally kicked Lois out of the Quartermaines and back to Bensonhurst. 

Lois says Gio has nobody looking out for him? He just found out he's related to half the town. He has people. 

 

[KerleyQ]

I loved BLQ not even letting Lois take the time to go pack her shit. Just booted her right out. 

I sincerely hope they don't have Gio doing this whole "nobody wanted me" thing for too long. First of all, Camilla wanted him. And, as much as Lois and Gloria suck ass, they wanted him, too, and did what they did to keep him in the family.  His biological parents didn't know him to reject him, including Dante not even knowing he existed. Ditto Olivia, Sonny, and Ned. And he just watched BLQ tear her mother and grandmother a few new ones over keeping his identity secret from her and not telling her the truth after Camilla died. The other part of this story I don't want to see drag out too long is the "Dante hates me" stuff. It was so contrived just to create artificial conflict. 

I cracked up at Kristina introducing herself to the other person in the room after she'd already engaged in a talk about a legal matter in front of him. Every time you think they can't make her any stupider or flakier than she already is, they up the ante. 

I want the judge to point out two things to the Carly Crew - 1) adultery does not mean you can't have custody of your kids. 2) Drew being thirsty to be a valued and respected member of the Q family does not make him dangerous to children. But, really, the only way this custody case could really be some meaty drama would be if NotDeadNell were to wander into the middle of it. 

[Cheyanne11]

13 minutes ago, KerleyQ said:

I want the judge to point out two things to the Carly Crew - 1) adultery does not mean you can't have custody of your kids.

Honestly.  The funniest thing would be after all this back and forth if the judge chastised them for wasting her time and gave them joint custody.

And then Lulu the Journalist could do a story on it as that would be a first in Port Charles.

[YaddaYadda]

That trial is so dumb. And honestly, poor Chase having to sit there and tell the court how Willow cheated on him with Michael. Out of all the characters on this show, he is the least deserving of being humiliated.

Michael is the linchpin of the Qs? Gag me with a spatula. Pretty sure we know who Monica will be leaving the house to. 

I enjoyed watching BLQ tear her ma and that grandma of hers new ones. Lois and Gloria are sure refusing to hear or understand that they did something wrong here. Hope the wormhole between Port Charles and Bensonhurst collapses in on itself so that we don't have to see them or hear them again. 

I totally get where Lois was coming from, being unable to give Gio to strangers to raise. Not knowing is scary. But good effin' god. She went about this whole thing all wrong.

BLQ kicking Lois and Gloria out of the Qs was a highlight. Tracy would have been proud.

Those super tight suits they keep stuffing CM into make him look like a sausage that's ready to burst out of its casing and a hunchback. He's nowhere near as charming as the Hunchback, though.

[mostlylurking]

38 minutes ago, Artsda said:

Gloria needs to just be slapped for how she takes no responsibility or believe she did anything wrong. 

Yeah Gloria was really pissing me off.  At least Lois had enough sense to act ashamed, even if she still feels what she did was right.  And I didn’t realize that Gio has been an orphan SINCE HE WAS TWELVE when he could have had two loving parents all this time oh my god Lois and Gloria are awful humans.

[Daisy]

38 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

Michael is the linchpin of the Qs? Gag me with a spatula. Pretty sure we know who Monica will be leaving the house to. 

 

i really really hoped that Tracy said all of that because she really, really hates Drew. because I remember Tracy saying she gives ZERO craps about Michael.

 

[ciarra]

1 hour ago, ljr said:

I don’t understand what camp Brooklyn and Dante went to. Was it coed?

She went to the girls' camp, Camp Martha.

And don't try to make anything fit, because it's all a sloppy retcon.

https://www.soapcentral.com/general-hospital/general-hospital-s-dante-cody-brook-lynn-retcon-confuses-befuddled-fans

Oh BLQ, I wish you had told Lois, "If you want your things, they're all over the front lawn."  Don't ever stop being angry.

Carly Jr. needs to take 10 seats.

 

 

 

 

[YaddaYadda]

26 minutes ago, ciarra said:

Carly Jr. needs to take 10 seats.

Carly Jr needs to go to Australia and never come back. WSB would have been better off recruiting Emma. Next think you know, we'll be told that Spy Girl had better scores than Black Widow.

[Noneofyourbusiness]

On 6/2/2025 at 3:10 PM, statsgirl said:

Laura confronts Alexis about $10 million missing from Ace's trust fund. Ten million dollars!!!!  That's a ridiculous amount. Are Ava and Ric stupid? That amount is going to get missed and no one needs that much money in addition to what they already have.

Alexis outright warned them that they were taking too much too fast and they ignored her.

On 6/2/2025 at 5:14 PM, KittyQ said:

I missed part of the ep due to Breaking News, so I don't know how Lucky persuaded Liz that not reporting Kristina for attempted murder is a good thing. It must have been a great argument because she seemed to ok with it when the break was over.

He told her that he sincerely believed Kristina wouldn't try to kill Ava again, that he felt he owed Sam a debt for saving Lulu, and that he'd be in trouble as an accessory after the fact if it were reported, which Liz didn't want because it would impact Aiden.

6 hours ago, KittyQ said:

Maybe he'll eventually give it more thought and see things more objectively, but for now, he's going to be easy pickings for Sonny's "grandpa" care. Will he become a violin-toting mobster? 

Given that Sonny didn't want Michael or Morgan to join his business back when they wanted to, that's unlikely.

2 hours ago, KerleyQ said:

I cracked up at Kristina introducing herself to the other person in the room after she'd already engaged in a talk about a legal matter in front of him. Every time you think they can't make her any stupider or flakier than she already is, they up the ante. 

2) Drew being thirsty to be a valued and respected member of the Q family does not make him dangerous to children.

What I wondered at was Marco not mentioning that Kristina dated his sister.

Drew being thirsty to be a valued and respected member of the Q family kind of does make him dangerous to children, because there's no telling what he might do.

[ciarra]

14 minutes ago, Noneofyourbusiness said:

Drew being thirsty to be a valued and respected member of the Q family kind of does make him dangerous to children, because there's no telling what he might do.

Willow is the one who is danger, since Drew would get the kids (and whatever Q inheritance/stock that would go to the kids).

[boes]

3 hours ago, YaddaYadda said:

I enjoyed watching BLQ tear her ma and that grandma of hers new ones. Lois and Gloria are sure refusing to hear or understand that they did something wrong here. Hope the wormhole between Port Charles and Bensonhurst collapses in on itself so that we don't have to see them or hear them again. 

...........................

BLQ kicking Lois and Gloria out of the Qs was a highlight. Tracy would have been proud.

The way Gloria, especially, kept doubling down on what they did, and especially, her daring to try and scold BLQ and then Gio made me wish someone went after her with a meat cleaver and a garlic press.  She was practically rolling up her sleeves for a fight until BLQ yelled at her to "GET OUT" and then she seemed to collapse like a poor little old lady.  Bullshit. 

In her case, I'm all in favor of kicking them when they're down.

[Daisy]

it's very clear that the show forgot that Drew actually has quite a number of Quatermaine votes. he doens't need the children. (since a butt tonne of people signed over their proxies to him)

[sacrebleu]

Oh. Great. The pool is open. It cracks me up how the show tries so valiantly to shoot scenes so we don't notice the pool is just two feet deep. 

And could someone explain to me how Kai needed special permission to leave the hospital to attend the nurses ball, but going swimming with his new gf is totes okay? 

So Joss was invited to join her new boss ( and Sidwell who is apparently funding his research) and she blows it off to run to the courthouse. That's some excellent secret agenting and research assistant-ing.

 

 

[ljr]

Drew hasn’t talked to  Kai since the surgery? 
And who was supposed to watch Kai’s documentary?
 

[nilyank]

4 hours ago, Daisy said:

it's very clear that the show forgot that Drew actually has quite a number of Quatermaine votes. he doens't need the children. (since a butt tonne of people signed over their proxies to him)

That was when he was working with Michael who was supporting him to get ELQ back for the family. Those proxies were won because of Michael and not Drew. Exactly which Q would support Drew now? If he didn't lose them after sleeping with Michael's wife, he lost them when he tried to get  to  destroy the ELQ crypt or having Tracy arrested on three different times.

[dubbel zout]

11 hours ago, mostlylurking said:

it’s been like less than 24 hours. Lol. Gio is still in his irrational feels and I think that’s understandable. 

He told Emma he wasn't going to run away, that he'd go back and hear what people have to say. Be skeptical, fine, but listen to what people are saying. Gio was sort of lurking (a blocking choice, I think, more than we were supposed to think he was eavesdropping) in the background while BL, Lois, and Gloria were having it out, so if he didn't like what he was hearing, he should have walked away then. 

As many have pointed out, Gio was wanted. By Camilla. He had a loving childhood. He seemed to lack for nothing. Yes, Camilla died too soon, but no one is immune from possible tragedy. 

Why does this show shit on adoption so much?. The reasons kids are given up are not necessarily ugly. When you're placed with adoptive parents, the vast majority are beyond thrilled to be able to create a family this way. GOD.

11 hours ago, ulkis said:

I read some comments saying Tracy should have been the one to kick Glo and Lo out but while I would not have minded that, it was Brook Lynn's moment to do that. 

I would have minded Tracy kicking Lois and Gloria out. Very much. It was definitely BL's moment. 

10 hours ago, ljr said:

I don’t understand what camp Brooklyn and Dante went to. Was it coed?

No, it was brother-sister camps, which is pretty common. Or was. I don't know the camp scene these days.

9 hours ago, KerleyQ said:

The other part of this story I don't want to see drag out too long is the "Dante hates me" stuff. It was so contrived just to create artificial conflict. 

Seriously. Dante lit into Gio for a very specific reason, not because Dante generally hates Gio. 

7 hours ago, ciarra said:

Willow is the one who is danger, since Drew would get the kids (and whatever Q inheritance/stock that would go to the kids).

Now that would be a custody battle: Drew has that document that Willow stupidly signed to give him custody of her kids, but now that Michael is back, as their father he's the legal choice. Kill of Willow and let's have some actual drama! (It will be stupid, of course, but at least it's not two idiot parents throwing lame accusations at each other.)

[YaddaYadda]

6 hours ago, boes said:

The way Gloria, especially, kept doubling down on what they did, and especially, her daring to try and scold BLQ and then Gio made me wish someone went after her with a meat cleaver and a garlic press. 

A rolling pin.

Dalton sure is a creeper. The way he was looking at Emma was so very gross.

[Daisy]

1 hour ago, dubbel zout said:

Why does this show shit on adoption so much?. The reasons kids are given up are not necessarily ugly. When you're placed with adoptive parents, the vast majority are beyond thrilled to be able to create a family this way. GOD.

especially when they were soo good about adoption in the past. 

1 hour ago, dubbel zout said:

Now that would be a custody battle: Drew has that document that Willow stupidly signed to give him custody of her kids, but now that Michael is back, as their father he's the legal choice. Kill of Willow and let's have some actual drama! (It will be stupid, of course, but at least it's not two idiot parents throwing lame accusations at each other.)

oh can we rewind time and do that one?
 

1 hour ago, nilyank said:

That was when he was working with Michael who was supporting him to get ELQ back for the family. Those proxies were won because of Michael and not Drew. Exactly which Q would support Drew now? If he didn't lose them after sleeping with Michael's wife, he lost them when he tried to get  to  destroy the ELQ crypt or having Tracy arrested on three different times.

yeah but my point is that He should have them right? like the show made it sound like some of these people flat out gave Drew his shares. 

[Sake614]

16 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

I am also Pepperidge Farms. I hate it when the show ignores this stuff while at the same time it brings it up. They always try to have it both ways. YOU CAN'T.

I wouldn’t expect Ric to ask Chase that question, because he should be asking it of michael. Chase doesn’t know what Michael was thinking  anymore than Carly or joss knows what Willow was thinking. They’re just allowed to project their own feelings on the witness stand. It’s why I hate GH courtroom scenes. 

[JMO]

Not joining in for the Lois/Gloria pile on.  I don’t think they should ever have just dumped the information on her, but yes, of course it would have been good for them to sound out BL on whether she’d ever wondered about the baby she’d given up at some point along the way, to assess her openness to it. We don’t know that they didn’t. They might have tried some respectful time after Camilla’s death, maybe again around the time BL had Bailey Lou in her care (but Lois wasn’t on screen, and Gio hadn’t been invented yet).  Instead, they gave him a home, saw to his education and his musical development, and by all appearances upon his arrival in PC, helped him to become a happy, healthy adult, capable of spouting wisdom that impressed even Tracy.

For me, this story is not about some horrible crime of keeping a child from his biological mother. It’s about trust. Did BL make a mistake in trusting Lois and Gloria to make sure her baby would have a good home?  Did Lois and Gloria not trust that BL could be a good mother after Camilla died?  Did they feel it would be a betrayal of trust to reveal where Gio was after she’d said she didn’t want to know?  Did they actually betray her trust by not asking her when the circumstances changed?

And all of the converse from BL. Does she feel it was a betrayal of trust that they didn’t use an agency, and instead gave Gio to a family member?  Does the fact that they never revealed this to her make her wonder if they didn’t trust her ability to parent? Does she not trust their intentions, regardless of the outcome? Does she not trust that they made Gio feel loved?

Biology is a powerful factor, and I’ve seen too many fostered and adopted kids seek to reunite with their bio parents not to respect it. We all wonder where we came from, and who we look like, and how we got our talents and our preferences. But nurturing requires a lot more than biology.  Gio was obviously nurtured, by his deceased adoptive mom and the two women who were just banished from the land. 

[GHScorpiosRule]

2 hours ago, JMO said:

Not joining in for the Lois/Gloria pile on.  I don’t think they should ever have just dumped the information on her, but yes, of course it would have been good for them to sound out BL on whether she’d ever wondered about the baby she’d given up at some point along the way, to assess her openness to it. We don’t know that they didn’t.

Yes, we do. In the many, many scenes we've seen, Brook Lynn has asked WHY they didn't tell her. Both Lois and Gloria said they didn't see the NEED to tell her. Lois never planned to tell her daughter or Dante, or anyone who Gio was. Ever. She has admitted this onscreen. Both have been portrayed as viewing adoption as some horrible thing-something which I've stated for a couple of weeks now. Acting as if they're living in the 40s-60s.

Yes, it is about trust, but it's also about these two harridans deciding adoption was EVUHL because the baby would go to -GASP! STRANGERS!!!!! The HORROR! when there are so many people out there who can't have children and adoption is one of the options for them to give a child a loving home.

So both Lois and Gloria will have my hate forever and ever for what they've done.

2 hours ago, JMO said:

Did BL make a mistake in trusting Lois and Gloria to make sure her baby would have a good home?

YES. Because she was clear in wanting to give her child up for adoption. Not given to a family member.

2 hours ago, JMO said:

Did Lois and Gloria not trust that BL could be a good mother after Camilla died?

It wasn't their place to make that decision. Gio wasn't their child.

2 hours ago, JMO said:

And all of the converse from BL. Does she feel it was a betrayal of trust that they didn’t use an agency, and instead gave Gio to a family member?  Does the fact that they never revealed this to her make her wonder if they didn’t trust her ability to parent? Does she not trust their intentions, regardless of the outcome? Does she not trust that they made Gio feel loved?

Yes. Because again, Brook Lynn wanted a closed adoption, so if her child decided he or she wanted to reach out, they could. She didn't tell Lois, hey Ma, you can hand off my child to someone in the family but don't tell me, so I can see my child grow up. Again, who are they to decide what kind of parent Brook Lynn would make? Did Gloria question if Lois would make a good "Ma"? or Gloria's mother about her? They both SUCK. 

Lois IGNORED what Brook Lynn wanted, pure and simple. That's betrayal. She and Gloria wanted to keep their grandchild/great grandchild in the family and never tell Brook Lynn what they had done. Gone as far as to "convince" Camilla not to tell Gio he was adopted, as if that would negate the love she had for him. They can, again, both, FUCK OFF and DIE IN A FIRE.

Edited Yest. at 04:13 PM by GHScorpiosRule

[Cheyanne11]

I had to laugh at Diane's big "AH-A! J'accuse!" moment when, after Chase talked about how Michael was boinking Willow while she was married to Chase she was all "but WILLOW was also married!"  Yeah, genius, thanks for that.  So I guess what we're saying there is the woman cheating is worse than the man?  Get bent, Diane.

Edited Yest. at 02:15 PM by Cheyanne11

[CeChase]

16 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Yes, we do. In the many, many scenes we've seen, Brook Lynn as asked WHY they didn't tell her. Both Lois and Gloria said they didn't see the NEED to tell her. Lois never planned to tell her daughter or Dante, or anyone who Gio was. Ever. She has admitted this onscreen. Both have been portrayed as viewing adoption as some horrible thing-something which I've stated for a couple of weeks now. Acting as if they're living in the 40s-60s.

Yes, it is about trust, but it's also about these two harridans deciding adoption was EVUHL because the baby would go to -GASP! STRANGERS!!!!! The HORROR! when there are so many people out there who can't have children and adoption is one of the options for them to give a child a loving home.

So both Lois and Gloria will have my hate forever and ever for what they've done.

YES. Because she was clear in wanting to give her child up for adoption. Not given to a family member.

It wasn't their place to make that decision. Gio wasn't their child.

Yes. Because again, Brook Lynn wanted a closed adoption, so if her child decided he or she wanted to reach out, they could. She didn't tell Lois, hey Ma, you can hand off my child to someone in the family but don't tell me, so I can see my child grow up. Again, who are they to decide what kind of parent Brook Lynn would make? Did Gloria question if Lois would make a good "Ma"? or Gloria's mother about her? They both SUCK. 

Lois IGNORED what Brook Lynn wanted, pure and simple. That's betrayal. She and Gloria wanted to keep their grandchild/great grandchild in the family and never tell Brook Lynn what they had done. Gone as far as to "convince" Camilla not to tell Gio he was adopted, as if that would negate the love she had for him. They can, again, both, FUCK OFF and DIE IN A FIRE.

Well, I mostly agree except that...I don't think they deserve to die over it.  

[Noneofyourbusiness]

3 hours ago, nilyank said:

or having Tracy arrested on three different times.

What's next? "Tracy Quartermaine, you are under arrest on the suspicion of being Tracy Quartermaine."

4 hours ago, sacrebleu said:

So Joss was invited to join her new boss ( and Sidwell who is apparently funding his research) and she blows it off to run to the courthouse. That's some excellent secret agenting and research assistant-ing.

I expect Vaughn will give her some grief about it.

Edited Yest. at 02:31 PM by Noneofyourbusiness

[dubbel zout]

5 minutes ago, Noneofyourbusiness said:

What's next? "Tracy Quartermaine, you under arrest on the suspicion of being Tracy Quartermaine."

Please. She'll be arrested for being Tracy Quartermaine.

[Noneofyourbusiness]

On 6/1/2025 at 4:30 PM, sacrebleu said:

I wish Willow would stop being shocked SHOCKED that Michael can be cold and calculating.

I wasn't watching regularly at the time the clip is from, but based on an old clip I remember watching a while ago where Willow was talking with Maxie and someone else (Joss? Lulu? Brook Lynn?) about Michael, it seems like she always underestimated how much he took after Sonny.

Edited Yest. at 02:54 PM by Noneofyourbusiness

[dubbel zout]

Didn't Willow see something once that made her say to someone, "I'm glad Michael/Carly isn't beaming that anger at me"? I feel like they're making her especially stupid for this dumb court case.

[kitmerlot1213]

5 hours ago, sacrebleu said:

So Joss was invited to join her new boss ( and Sidwell who is apparently funding his research) and she blows it off to run to the courthouse. That's some excellent secret agenting and research assistant-ing.

 

and

11 hours ago, YaddaYadda said:

Carly Jr needs to go to Australia and never come back. WSB would have been better off recruiting Emma. Next think you know, we'll be told that Spy Girl had better scores than Black Widow.

I know we shouldn't expect realism on a soap but Joss' alleged "spy training" is just too much.  The cadet training at any law enforcement academys I've heard of last at least six months.  Joss' didn't even least six weeks and we're supposed to believe she's ready to be in the field?  And isn't there an actual graduation ceremony from the WSB academy that both Anna and Brennan actually attended when they actually went to school and did their actual espionage training? 

How long is it going to be before Joss is outed for not knowing the subject she's supposed to be working in?  And as disgusting as Dalton's leering at Emma is, Emma seemed rather skeeved out herself.  Let Emma continue to be Gio's support system rather then prey for Dalton.

[boes]

1 hour ago, JMO said:

Gio was obviously nurtured, by his deceased adoptive mom and the two women who were just banished from the land. 

Was he?  Plenty of people grow up to be good and caring adults who start out with less than stellar childhoods.  Also, has it ever been established who Gio lived with after Camilla died?  Was it with Lois or with Gloria?  I've heard a lot about "the neighborhood", and "everyone" loving Gio but who did the day to day stuff?

Gloria, in particular, immediately lost me with how she tried to shut down Brooklyn, mute her, with that "How dare you speak to your mother that way" b.s.  She actively resented any displeasure or questions from both Brooklyn and Gio and tried to use her position in their lives to shut down any criticism.  

She and Lois deserve everything they got, and more.

[Daisy]

2 hours ago, Sake614 said:

I wouldn’t expect Ric to ask Chase that question, because he should be asking it of michael. Chase doesn’t know what Michael was thinking  anymore than Carly or joss knows what Willow was thinking. They’re just allowed to project their own feelings on the witness stand. It’s why I hate GH courtroom scenes. 

he kind of did, considering Michael threw it in his face. "Well, we only had the affair because we were in love, and you were only sick so why are you so mad I boned your wife in your bed, Best Friend?" 

that's why Michael was sort of bummed out before becuse he was all "well Willow only cheated with me because she wuved me so I guess she wuvs Drew now." now it's  Drew's the evul. 

45 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Didn't Willow see something once that made her say to someone, "I'm glad Michael/Carly isn't beaming that anger at me"? I feel like they're making her especially stupid for this dumb court case.

yeup. when Team Carly was all over Nina. 

 

3 minutes ago, boes said:

Gloria, in particular, immediately lost me with how she tried to shut down Brooklyn, mute her, with that "How dare you speak to your mother that way" b.s.

 

honestly that's true to form for a lot of cultures. as old as I am, if I sass my mom, I get clap back, and my mom always says that she could never sass her mom, regardless of what the situation was. (now i mean it wasn't anything. this big but you can't sass your mama lol).
 

Like Gloria could have been legit on her knees please forgive me rather than all dismissive but that whole "don't speak to your mama like that." would have still come in loud and clear. 

[Sake614]

12 minutes ago, Daisy said:

2 hours ago, Sake614 said:

I wouldn’t expect Ric to ask Chase that question, because he should be asking it of michael. Chase doesn’t know what Michael was thinking  anymore than Carly or joss knows what Willow was thinking. They’re just allowed to project their own feelings on the witness stand. It’s why I hate GH courtroom scenes. 

he kind of did, considering Michael threw it in his face. "Well, we only had the affair because we were in love, and you were only sick so why are you so mad I boned your wife in your bed, Best Friend?" 

that's why Michael was sort of bummed out before becuse he was all "well Willow only cheated with me because she wuved me so I guess she wuvs Drew now." now it's  Drew's the evul. 

Yeah okay but it still should be asked of Michael. We know he’ll just lie or somehow justify his behavior but it should still come out in cross examination.