Episode Discussion II: The TFGH

[DanaK]

6 hours ago, Winston Wolfe said:

Agreed - that thought has been on my mind for a while now. As much as we bash this Soap - and boy, do we - this S/L has generated a tremendous amount of thoughtful dialogue on this Board. And virtually everyone here has a viable perspective. As for me, it's like a Rubric's Cube of morality, if that makes any sense. 

As someone who was adopted (along with my brother; different families though), I think Lois and her mom are the real villains in this story, keeping Gio close but telling no one they were doing it or who he was and lying about it for years, including to Brooklyn. I’m ok with Lulu trying to get more information before telling Dante, though her feud with Brooklyn colored things. Poor Gio should not have found out like that

[absnow54]

2 hours ago, graight said:

So when nuMichael says to Wiley, "Let's go  home," where is home?  I can't remember where he was staying when he left Willow.  With Sonny?

Probably the gate house, since Willow moved out to live with Drew. 

[Cheyanne11]

I'll give CM this: the deflated look he got when he saw Michael was perfect, so good job!  

Also, OMG, Willow telling Carly she was "willing" to give Michael "2 weekends a month and 2 weeks during the summer" visitation?  I'm with Carly with that "are you fucking kidding me?" look.  What an asshole.

 

[Daisy]

9 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

I'll give CM this: the deflated look he got when he saw Michael was perfect, so good job!  

Also, OMG, Willow telling Carly she was "willing" to give Michael "2 weekends a month and 2 weeks during the summer" visitation?  I'm with Carly with that "are you fucking kidding me?" look.  What an asshole.

 

 

wait - that was the compromise? 
lol okay there, Willow

[ulkis]

13 hours ago, statsgirl said:

Whether or not what Lulu wanted to do was right (and we have many different ideas here) Lulu wasn't thinking of Gio much less of Rocco. She was only thinking of herself as a star, about appearing a hero to Dante, maybe showing that she is a better love for him than Sam, and trying to score off off Brook Lynn. Even Carly told her to think about the consequences before she does anything.

If she wanted to be Dante's hero she would have just told him but she knows he probably won't be happy with the messager either. She didn't say, hey Lois, tell Dante in a day and make sure to tell him I made you, or I will. I think she is hoping Dante will hate Brook Lynn for keeping this from him. But she also knows he might be angry with her as well, otherwise she would have went straight to him.

There's a lot of contrivance going on, imo. Why would Brook Lynn keep sitting on it once she knew Lulu knew and once she told Tracy? I think that is kind of ooc. It was only a matter of time yet she felt like telling Dante would lead to disaster for some reason.

[rur]

Even though Willow is still in Drew's thrall, I am liking her less than positive facial reactions whenever Drew mentions moving to D.C. There's a bit of a seed for future discord there. 

I, too, was surprised that no one seemed happy to see Michael other than Wiley. I understand the shock at first, but either Sonny or Carly should have at least smiled when they realized he was actually there in the room. I'm guessing the "don't look happy or surprised" reaction was a direction rather than an acting choice. 

Kudos to the guys for doing the backup dancing.  I was glad they gave them a relatively simple routine and not a  tasteless strip number like the year we could see Chad visibly counting. 

I've never heard of Ydi either. I know I'm going to sound terribly old, un-hip, and un-with it, but I happened to have closed captions on during the show because I'd just been watching a foreign show, and even though she has a nice voice, and it was a pleasant sounding song,  the lyrics didn't seem to make a lot of sense. 

And, since when was it a tradition that the last number of the NB was kids? Just having a character say it doesn't make it so.  (But at least they didn't sing the "You are not alone" Sabrina song.)

Finally, the biggest villain here is Lois. 

[ulkis]

On another topic, I'm starting to think they should have just recast Lucky again, and it's painful to say that, but how little he is on is ridiculous. I knew he wouldn't be on a lot but not this low. That they couldn't even get him to do a song for the NB seems crazy.

[Sake614]

10 minutes ago, ulkis said:

On another topic, I'm starting to think they should have just recast Lucky again, and it's painful to say that, but how little he is on is ridiculous. I knew he wouldn't be on a lot but not this low. That they couldn't even get him to do a song for the NB seems crazy.

You’re assuming it was JJ who refused to participate. Maybe he wasn’t asked. Neither of Scout’s parents were even in attendance for her song. Laura wasn’t there. Ric and Ava weren’t there (Ava has performed in the past). Ned didn’t sing. Unless and until I see definitive proof that JJ refused to sing and/or is hindering the story in any way, I’m blaming Frank.

 

[ulkis]

4 minutes ago, Sake614 said:

You’re assuming it was JJ who refused to participate. Maybe he wasn’t asked. Neither of Scout’s parents were even in attendance for her song. Laura wasn’t there. Ric and Ava weren’t there (Ava has performed in the past). Ned didn’t sing. Unless and until I see definitive proof that JJ refused to sing and/or is hindering the story in any way, I’m blaming Frank.

I don't necessarily think FV asked him but if he didn't, it was probably because they didn't want to waste one of his episode guarantees on the Nurses Ball, which all comes down to the episode guarantees being so low. Maybe things will pick up though.

[GHScorpiosRule]

1 minute ago, Sake614 said:

Neither of Scout’s parents were even in attendance for her song

Drew was there in the audience.  Blowing kisses and crossing his arms across his chest.

And totally agree with you in blaming Frank because he SUCKS.

And  I loved this routine with Lucky, Elizabeth, Dara, and Taggert performing “Jailhouse Rock”

 

 

 

[Sake614]

1 minute ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Drew was there in the audience

He doesn’t count 🤣 and I meant to say Georgie, not Scout.

Edited Saturday at 03:15 PM by Sake614

[GHScorpiosRule]

Just now, Sake614 said:

He doesn’t count 🤣 and I meant to say Georgie, not Scout.

Touché! 

I just loved the original where there wasn’t any auto-tune (Olivia, I’m looking at you) or the cheap ass effects. Just the cast showcasing their own talent.

 

[KerleyQ]

3 hours ago, DanaK said:

As someone who was adopted (along with my brother; different families though), I think Lois and her mom are the real villains in this story, keeping Gio close but telling no one they were doing it or who he was and lying about it for years, including to Brooklyn. I’m ok with Lulu trying to get more information before telling Dante, though her feud with Brooklyn colored things. Poor Gio should not have found out like that

I agree. I like that it's possible to understand both BLQ's and Lulu's points of view here, while also acknowledging that they've both made some mistakes along the way as well. But Lois and Gloria are just flat out wrong, and have been pretty much from the time Lois found out her teenage daughter was pregnant. BLQ and Gio are the two people Lois should have been prioritizing and centering in her decisions the whole time. And she absolutely did not do that.  Everyone involved in this story has the right to be very angry with Lois. 

2 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

I'll give CM this: the deflated look he got when he saw Michael was perfect, so good job!  

Also, OMG, Willow telling Carly she was "willing" to give Michael "2 weekends a month and 2 weeks during the summer" visitation?  I'm with Carly with that "are you fucking kidding me?" look.  What an asshole.

 

I hate soap custody storylines in general, for exactly this kind of shit. Why would Michael need to see the kids so infrequently when he lives about five minutes away from where Willow is living with the kids? As a mom, I get not wanting your kids away from you for long and all, but Willow chose to leave her marriage. That decision comes with consequences. It would be one thing if there was ever any indication that she thought Michael was anything but a good father. But she has never made a single comment to indicate she thinks he's anything but a wonderful father to their kids. But soaps make custody issue so "all or nothing" that we end up with this stupidity. 

[GHScorpiosRule]

Okay I was wrong and forgot that Scotty, Edward, Emily, and Serena did the “Girls Just Wanna Have Fun” bit with Mac, Maxie, and Emily.

 

Edited Saturday at 03:40 PM by GHScorpiosRule

[Perkie]

The kids were adorable. So, Scout was there, but she's been staying with Alexis since the Jacinda incident, so did Alexis drop her off at the ball and then go back home to argue with the nitwit?

Trina looked stunning in that performance, the hair and dress were fantastic.

I wanted a smidge more shock on BLQ's face at the reveal. Dante looked confused but she looked resigned, like maybe she had just figured it out.

Lulu is full of crap. "I have to go to Dante'. Sure, you made the mess and now you think you can console him. Maybe you should be lining up to apologize to Geo for blowing up his life first.

I'm not sure why Michael needed to be in a tux for his entrance?!!

I get that they only have budget for a handful of tables and characters, but why did everything have to look so sterile. All of the tables were pristine. Do they not eat or drink at this event? They must because there was one year where Brenda threw a bread roll at Carly's head. So why weren't there remnants of a meal or at the very least, dessert plates and half empty drink glasses. Make it look like there is an event happening there and not that this handful of people happened to walk into a room and sit at an empty table.

[GHScorpiosRule]

1 minute ago, Perkie said:

So, Scout was there, but she's been staying with Alexis since the Jacinda incident, so did Alexis drop her off at the ball and then go back home to argue with the nitwit?

I assumed Molly brought her.

2 minutes ago, Perkie said:

I get that they only have budget for a handful of tables and characters, but why did everything have to look so sterile. All of the tables were pristine. Do they not eat or drink at this event? They must because there was one year where Brenda threw a bread roll at Carly's head. So why weren't there remnants of a meal or at the very least, dessert plates and half empty drink glasses. Make it look like there is an event happening there and not that this handful of people happened to walk into a room and sit at an empty table.

Because Frank is a cheap ass bastard.

Not one single story about people who live with HIV or suffer from AIDS.

4 minutes ago, Perkie said:

I'm not sure why Michael needed to be in a tux for his entrance?!!

Why not? It’s not as if he’d been kidnapped, held hostage, and escaped or anything.

[DanaMB]

6 hours ago, jqdeco said:

Call me a grinch, but I hated the kids singing to close out the NB. I thought it was painful to watch. 

Same. I ended up fast forwarding it. 

Edited Saturday at 03:40 PM by DanaMB

[Cheyanne11]

2 hours ago, Daisy said:

 

wait - that was the compromise? 
lol okay there, Willow

Yeah,  Willow said "I want to reach a compromise" and Carly said "great, joint custody" and Willow came back with that nonsense of four days a month and 14 days during the summer.  Fuck off, Willow.

[Daisy]

9 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Yeah,  Willow said "I want to reach a compromise" and Carly said "great, joint custody" and Willow came back with that nonsense of four days a month and 14 days during the summer.  Fuck off, Willow.

LOL and now I have to side with Carly because that is laughable. Thanks Willow, thanks for that. 

[Artsda]

41 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Touché! 

I just loved the original where there wasn’t any auto-tune (Olivia, I’m looking at you) or the cheap ass effects. Just the cast showcasing their own talent.

 

These were the most amazing nurses ball. Sonny/Brenda/Jax, all the core families and entire cast together performing for real. Not what some of these performances we get now. 

I still remember Lucy stripping and Kevin donation to keep it on. 

[GHScorpiosRule]

1 minute ago, Artsda said:

These were the most amazing nurses ball. Sonny/Brenda/Jax, all the core families and entire cast together performing for real. Not what some of these performances we get now. 

I still remember Lucy stripping and Kevin donation to keep it on. 

Exactly. I don’t see anything that was put into them that would cost 💴-none of that eye rolling “red carpet” which probably costs more! That was a great number with the crossover of the new cast of Port Charles.

[Bringonthedrama]

36 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Not one single story about people who live with HIV or suffer from AIDS.

I expected/assumed Lucky would sing a beautiful song and have a brief speech/presentation about people living with HIV and AIDS in Africa since his storyline for returning to the Show was that he provided security for medical personnel who were caring for critical needs in dangerous areas of Africa. He and Isaiah could have shared dialogue, with Isaiah talking about what he witnessed from an HIV/AIDS patient or several, when he was a doctor there.

I'm really disappointed. This is as glaring an omission as when Bobbie was completely left out of the Lucky/Elizabeth part of the Jake died and organ donation storyline involving Josslyn.

Edited Saturday at 04:17 PM by Bringonthedrama

[sacrebleu]

3 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

 

Also, OMG, Willow telling Carly she was "willing" to give Michael "2 weekends a month and 2 weeks during the summer" visitation?  I'm with Carly with that "are you fucking kidding me?" look.  What an asshole.

 

Srsly. Why can't the kids just switch off one week with dad/ one with mom. Everything is all or nothing with these baby hoarders.  And Willow is not a fan of Drew's DC plan. 

[bybrandy]

Poor Georgie not only will the show not shell out for a parental reaction shot they aren’t even pretending like Georgie has a relationship off screen with Cody who clearly was just cheering on James. 
 

 

[Nique]

18 hours ago, driver18 said:

So is Lulu an evil heifer hoho crumbbag for not telling Brooklyn's secret? Or is she an evil heifer hoho crumbbag for knowing Brooklyn's secret and wanting to tell it and not doing so? I'm confused. Just apparently that Brooklyn isn't an evil heifer hoho crumbbag for lying to Dante for years because Lulu sucks, I guess. I dunno. I don't get it. 

Yes, she is an evil vindictive hoiler than thou stank ass heifer. For a nosy self righteous shrew I must have missed when she gave Dillon rights? A say? A choice? Oh wait Shrieking Harpy said My Body My Choice no one had a right to meddle, interfere, judge her choice to abort the consequences & reminder of her slutty homewrecking ways. That's why she had an abortion! Now you see how delusional that sounds? That's how Delooloo & you sound about big bad Brooklyn. Any other questions 

Oh wait I forgot ScrewLu thinks only she deserves grace for her past actions, only she deserves forgiveness, only she's allowed to be rewarded for atrocious behavior like having the girls marriage she helped destroy still be your friend & the stupid manboy who you lied, manipulate too chase after your asexual self with the other 2 blind mice. 

For someone who had the girl whose life & marriage she destroyed, holding her hand as she aborted the child of the man she loved, the manboy she had to manipulate to want, sleep with her, she should really rethink her life choices of being a judgemental cow whose acting like her shit don't stank. The entitlement is off the charts she really is a mini Cujo. The audacity of a 5 head bit×*

 

[ciarra]

No corporate sponsor for the NB this year?  Aveeno wouldn't touch it? 

Dunno why they needed all the swag bags, with the logos on the bags and the tissue paper, just for "foreground" filler.  More bags than attendees, more people on the stage than in the audience. 

They did spend a few bucks on performance rights for some songs.  They weren't all indie or public domain. 

As for the closing number, I wonder how long it took to tape it, whether they had to do lots of retakes, several different camera shots.   How many hours the audience had to look engaged and amused. 

[Daisy]

Okay I have to ask. 
Jason was all "following them would be a bad Idea."

so what was he gonna do if Willow went, 'screw you' and went after her kid? Shoot her?

[FilmTVGeek80]

2 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Yeah,  Willow said "I want to reach a compromise" and Carly said "great, joint custody" and Willow came back with that nonsense of four days a month and 14 days during the summer.  Fuck off, Willow.

 

2 hours ago, Daisy said:

LOL and now I have to side with Carly because that is laughable. Thanks Willow, thanks for that. 

I will rarely side with Carly and this is not one of those times. I know so many hate Drew and Willow with a blinding passion. But I don’t. I will always hate Carly more than them. Sure Willow’s “compromise” wasn’t a compromise at all, but I consider it karma for Carly’s infinite baby hoarding ways. She has been just as ruthless and uncompromising in the past. I don’t recall her giving AJ the chance of even having every other weekend. She sure as hell lorded it over Ava’s head when she and Sonny would barely let her see Avery. I don’t care how unreasonable Willow was. As many people enjoyed Michael walking in and hauling Wiley off like his property, I’m going to enjoy it even more when Willow finds out Michael got Sasha pregnant while married to Willow and those two judgmental asses have been desperately trying to keep it secret.

[ljr]

The whole nurses ball was lame. I just don’t believe  all those actors enjoyed performing or singing, the guy who plays Dante didn’t smile once during his performance.

And there’s only 5 children in port Charles? They couldn’t get some extra kids to perform.

And what tv channel is it on? 

[Daisy]

12 minutes ago, FilmTVGeek80 said:

I will rarely side with Carly and this is not one of those times. I know so many hate Drew and Willow with a blinding passion. But I don’t. I will always hate Carly more than them. Sure Willow’s “compromise” wasn’t a compromise at all, but I consider it karma for Carly’s infinite baby hoarding ways. She has been just as ruthless and uncompromising in the past. I don’t recall her giving AJ the chance of even having every other weekend. She sure as hell lorded it over Ava’s head when she and Sonny would barely let her see Avery. I don’t care how unreasonable Willow was. As many people enjoyed Michael walking in and hauling Wiley off like his property, I’m going to enjoy it even more when Willow finds out Michael got Sasha pregnant while married to Willow and those two judgmental asses have been desperately trying to keep it secret.

Oh don't get me wrong. I want that day to come up quite soon and Willow can unleash some well deserving fury on Sasha's judgemental butt. 

But this is about Willow and Michael. Even though Michael was all "No i don't want to see you," (a lie etc whatever) it could simply been for a whole lot of reasons. 4 days and 2 weeks in the summer is not a compromise. She was desperate to keep her kids, joint custody would have been easy peasy, no court and then if you wanted to be all vindictive later, then go for it once you were secure. that's it. 

to me in that moment it didn't seem that she was sticking it to Michael, she was sticking it to Carly. Carly wants the kids away from Drew but was still willing to go joint custody. I think Willow was wrong not to agree to that.  that's all.  (just like carly was wrong ALL those other times).  

 

[ciarra]

17 minutes ago, ljr said:

And what tv channel is it on? 

WLPC?   But it's more like a local cable access show. 

 

[Sake614]

I wasn’t watching when the NB started. I watched in the mid to late 70s into about ‘81 or so. Came back when Laura returned from Cassadine Island (coveted her cobalt blue coat!) and then stopped again until around the monkey virus fiasco. So clearly I missed a lot of great stuff from the NB. I loved that Hey Big Spender number but damn all I could focus on were the ARMS on these women! Like I would legit kill for arms like that lol!

oh and it’s nice to see Sonny was always a dick. 🤣

[Perkie]

3 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

I assumed Molly brought her.

But we saw Molly show up by herself and then run into Cody and have him escort her on the red carpet.  

 

3 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Because Frank is a cheap ass bastard.

How much money can it possibly cost?  Run up to the restaurant set and grab a handfull of plates, cutlery, drinking glasses.  It's not like they had to go out and buy them!!

 

3 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Why not? It’s not as if he’d been kidnapped, held hostage, and escaped or anything.

What's funnier is that the shot of "the man on the plane" the day before, he was already dressed in the tux.  So Michael left the hospital, picked up a tux somewhere and flew home in time to show up to the end of the ball.  Sure show, sure.  

[GHScorpiosRule]

1 minute ago, Perkie said:

But we saw Molly show up by herself and then run into Cody and have him escort her on the red carpet.  

She could have brought her, Scout went inside and Molly was left just outside.

3 minutes ago, Perkie said:

How much money can it possibly cost?  Run up to the restaurant set and grab a handfull of plates, cutlery, drinking glasses.  It's not like they had to go out and buy them!

CHEAP.

3 minutes ago, Perkie said:

What's funnier is that the shot of "the man on the plane" the day before, he was already dressed in the tux.  So Michael left the hospital, picked up a tux somewhere and flew home in time to show up to the end of the ball.  Sure show, sure.  

Private Jet. He could have changed when it was landing shortly.

[FilmTVGeek80]

7 minutes ago, Daisy said:

Oh don't get me wrong. I want that day to come up quite soon and Willow can unleash some well deserving fury on Sasha's judgemental butt. 

But this is about Willow and Michael. Even though Michael was all "No i don't want to see you," (a lie etc whatever) it could simply been for a whole lot of reasons. 4 days and 2 weeks in the summer is not a compromise. She was desperate to keep her kids, joint custody would have been easy peasy, no court and then if you wanted to be all vindictive later, then go for it once you were secure. that's it. 

to me in that moment it didn't seem that she was sticking it to Michael, she was sticking it to Carly. Carly wants the kids away from Drew but was still willing to go joint custody. I think Willow was wrong not to agree to that.  that's all.  (just like carly was wrong ALL those other times).  

 

I get your point about this being Willow being unfair to Michael, but it still doesn’t make me want her to fuck off. I enjoy anyone sticking it to Carly and I think Willow has good reason to, especially if Nina told her about her confrontation with Carly and how Carly insulted her and said Willow didn’t deserve to be a mother. Carly made it her business to insert herself into this custody case without even discussing it with Michael. Willow isn’t a vindictive shrew like Carly so she’d never stick to the arrangement she suggested. I don’t care that she wants to momentarily give Carly back all the viciousness she inflicts on others.

[driver18]

4 hours ago, ulkis said:

On another topic, I'm starting to think they should have just recast Lucky again, and it's painful to say that, but how little he is on is ridiculous. I knew he wouldn't be on a lot but not this low. That they couldn't even get him to do a song for the NB seems crazy.

Or not have bothered... oh, and in the process not destroyed the Finn and Elizabeth relationship, and the Finn character. IN TWO WEEKS I might add, just to bring Lucky back when we barely see him. And I say this as a long time JJ-Lucky devotee.

I came back to GH after many years because he returned the first time. I stuck around through thick and thin, and fell for Michael Easton. The horrible way he and Finn were treated by the new regime had me walking out again... but then JJ was announced, so they reeled me back in.

Was it worth it? I am beginning to wonder.

[StaceyNotStacie]

2 hours ago, bybrandy said:

Poor Georgie not only will the show not shell out for a parental reaction shot they aren’t even pretending like Georgie has a relationship off screen with Cody who clearly was just cheering on James. 
 

 

They should have had a tween/young teen segment with her, Rocco, Danny and Charlotte. 
 

re: Michael’s tux, he probably wore it so he would blend in with the rest of the guests.  If he showed up dressed casually, security or someone else would have noticed him and wouldn’t let him near the Nurse’s Ball. 

[rur]

4 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Because Frank is a cheap ass bastard.

Having that few people in the room was really pitiful. I remember one year that people who worked for whoever the sponsor was got to be extras in the red carpet and audience scenes. I wondered several times if something similar couldn't have been done using GH workers or workers' families as seat fillers to make the crowd look bigger. There may be rules against it. I don't know. I also wondered if they couldn't have just digitally added a crowd. 

[Bringonthedrama]

16 hours ago, statsgirl said:

I think that Lois ran off after him, and then Brook Lynn left too. Olivia and Ned seemed too stunned.

It's Lulu's half-assed investigative skills that make it look like it's about a vendetta for her rather than righting a wrong.

Yes and yes.

What really stood out to me about Lois in the confrontation with NuLulu was when she screamed "Who are you to decide?!?" as Gio had his hand on the door knob and was pushing the door to open it. He heard his beloved Aunt Lois defending her actions and sadly, Rocco's mother, a woman he hardly knows, telling the truth rather than the women who are supposed to love him so dearly.

Lois was not considering telling anyone the truth, despite everything she had witnessed and heard from Gio, Brook Lynn and Dante who all have trusted her completely since well before they ever knew Lulu's name. She was determined to protect herself and her mother's lies above all else indefinitely. That's being self-serving and cruel. 

[Daisy]

1 hour ago, FilmTVGeek80 said:

I get your point about this being Willow being unfair to Michael, but it still doesn’t make me want her to fuck off. I enjoy anyone sticking it to Carly and I think Willow has good reason to, especially if Nina told her about her confrontation with Carly and how Carly insulted her and said Willow didn’t deserve to be a mother. Carly made it her business to insert herself into this custody case without even discussing it with Michael. Willow isn’t a vindictive shrew like Carly so she’d never stick to the arrangement she suggested. I don’t care that she wants to momentarily give Carly back all the viciousness she inflicts on others.

 

yeah that's true too. 
thank you. I can see clearly now. phew , I was starting to lose it. 

[YaddaYadda]

8 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

I'll give CM this: the deflated look he got when he saw Michael was perfect, so good job!  

Also, OMG, Willow telling Carly she was "willing" to give Michael "2 weekends a month and 2 weeks during the summer" visitation?  I'm with Carly with that "are you fucking kidding me?" look.  What an asshole.

The asshole, who has been getting the worst advice from her lover, because she's so goddamn stupid, thought that Michael wouldn't be there for the custody hearing, so she donned her smug face and used her most conciliatory tone, trying to show just how reasonable she is. 

That whole narrative that she bought into that Michael abandoned his children was something and now the chickens have come home to roost.

Enjoy your 2 weekends a month and 2 weeks during the summer, Willow.

[Grinaldi]

I think the lack of food and drink is more about continuity than cheapness. They probably shoot everything out of order to save on setups.

I agree that the modern Nurses Ball pales in comparison to the ones in the 90s. But I am still glad they keep doing them. And this one managed to pack a lot of drama in. I blame Frank for a lot of bad story choices but he is clearly trying to keep the trains running and the show on the air. And once Covid hit and they realized that they could get away with few to no extras, they just kept that budget cut locked in. I don't think Frank is cheap so much as frugal on a limited budget.

[methodwriter85]

Holy crap, they actually paid for music rights? I am legitimately shocked.

Welcome back, MIchael!

[dubbel zout]

When everyone was digesting the news, I liked how Chase and Cody didn't say anything more than what they were sure they knew.

I wonder who cleaned up afte Gio "Pete Townshend" Palmieri smashed his violin onstage. If they'd waited to have the reveal at a Q breakfast, for example, Gio could have proven he's part Corinthos and thrown some barware.

"There it is—there's the heat!" as Lucas puts a paper tiara on Elizabeth's head. Hee. They're so great as friends, and the actors are so relaxed and fun together.

Joss and Trina were hardly thrown onstage at the last minute. They were supposed to follow Anna and Chase, whose performance was cut short. The order of acts didn't change.

"It would be really nice if you could speak for yourself" is one of smartest things Carly has said to Willow. Why Willow doesn't speak for herself more is one of the grossest things about her relationship with Drew. As ridiculous as Michael showing up was, it was so intensely satisfying to see Drew's face.

It's ridiculous that the little kids perform the last act of the night, tradition or not. They were well coached. No one looked terrified or that they didn't want to be there.

They had to do it, but it was hilarious that they had to cram in "the role of Michael Corinthos is now being played by Rory Gibson" in the very last seconds.

 

Edited Saturday at 10:00 PM by dubbel zout

[FilmTVGeek80]

28 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

The asshole, who has been getting the worst advice from her lover, because she's so goddamn stupid, thought that Michael wouldn't be there for the custody hearing, so she donned her smug face and used her most conciliatory tone, trying to show just how reasonable she is. 

That whole narrative that she bought into that Michael abandoned his children was something and now the chickens have come home to roost.

Enjoy your 2 weekends a month and 2 weeks during the summer, Willow.

I’m sorry Willow’s the asshole? Willow is smug? Going up against Carly who wakes up with a smug look on her face and looks down on everyone she has no business looking down on? Of course Willow didn’t think he would be there. Even his own mother had no idea he was well enough to be there. And she didn’t buy into the idea that Michael abandoned his family, but since they weren’t able to dig up any dirt on Michael - YET - that was the angle they choose. I wouldn’t count on her losing the custody case just yet since the Sasha secret is set to explode soon enough. 

[statsgirl]

I`d forgotten that two weekends a month and two weeks in the summer was the standard visitation for divorced fathers in the 60s on. Nice to move on from the assumption that fathers are not good at hands-on parenting.

9 hours ago, rur said:

I, too, was surprised that no one seemed happy to see Michael other than Wiley. I understand the shock at first, but either Sonny or Carly should have at least smiled when they realized he was actually there in the room.

I assumed that Sonny`s lack of reaction was because he knew that Michael was coming and it was his plane that we saw. Carly may have been in shock and worried that Michael would find out what she had been up to behind his back in terms of the court case.

[lala2]

10 hours ago, KerleyQ said:

I hate soap custody storylines in general, for exactly this kind of shit. Why would Michael need to see the kids so infrequently when he lives about five minutes away from where Willow is living with the kids? As a mom, I get not wanting your kids away from you for long and all, but Willow chose to leave her marriage. That decision comes with consequences. It would be one thing if there was ever any indication that she thought Michael was anything but a good father. But she has never made a single comment to indicate she thinks he's anything but a wonderful father to their kids. But soaps make custody issue so "all or nothing" that we end up with this stupidity. 

GH is the worst at this. No one ever wants to share custody, and even when they do (like Michael and Willow wanted at one time), they will inevitably change their minds and decide they want sole custody. 🙄

As a family lawyer, I’m so over GH’s custody stories. No other soap does as many custody stories as GH. I swear they stop one and start another. It never ends. SaVa was fighting over Avery. They decided to share custody, and then we went right to Lulu fighting Valentin for custody of a teenage Charlotte. That ended, and SaVa restarted their fight or the Millow fight started. I can’t remember but this show can’t go for an extended time w/o some lame custody battle. If I actually cared about the kids involved, these stories would work, but I don’t. 😆 Most of the characters are on a level playing field - in my mind - when comes to custody like SaVa and Millow. Neither is the better parent IMO. I hate that yet another custody battle is brewing! I’ll just FF/mute it until it’s over! lol

[Daisy]

42 minutes ago, lala2 said:

GH is the worst at this. No one ever wants to share custody, and even when they do (like Michael and Willow wanted at one time), they will inevitably change their minds and decide they want sole custody. 🙄

As a family lawyer, I’m so over GH’s custody stories. No other soap does as many custody stories as GH. I swear they stop one and start another. It never ends. SaVa was fighting over Avery. They decided to share custody, and then we went right to Lulu fighting Valentin for custody of a teenage Charlotte. That ended, and SaVa restarted their fight or the Millow fight started. I can’t remember but this show can’t go for an extended time w/o some lame custody battle. If I actually cared about the kids involved, these stories would work, but I don’t. 😆 Most of the characters are on a level playing field - in my mind - when comes to custody like SaVa and Millow. Neither is the better parent IMO. I hate that yet another custody battle is brewing! I’ll just FF/mute it until it’s over! lol

 

if they ain't fighting over babies, they are making babies.
it's like they simply can't have people fall in love and be all smutty in the afternoon like normal soaps. 

[30 Helens]

Another year, another cringy NB. I enjoyed exactly two parts of that: Gio’s violin solo (I am not a fan of violin music, but that was gorgeous) and Cody’s energetic backup dancing. Dude was clearly having a great time.

One thing I will never understand is why they can’t dress the set to at least give the illusion that more than 20 people are in attendance. Hell, at this point I’d settle for cardboard cutouts in the background. 

But the NB is not about the ball anymore, it’s about the drama. And in that way it did not disappoint. While I respectfully disagree with seemingly everyone here about Gio’s acting (I found it overwrought verging on hammy), the reveal was very soapy. So many dropped jaws. At least Lulu looked properly chastened.

And new Michael! Wowza. Not only is he hot, he managed to convince me with a single line reading and a withering glance in Willow’s direction that he can act.

Chad who?

[ulkis]

15 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

When everyone was digesting the news, I liked how Chase and Cody didn't say anything more than what they were sure they knew.

I was so mad Chase let Sonny tell him not to go after his own wife though. Chase should have thrown him over his shoulder and put him into one of the hotel room beds.