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1 minute ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Willow likening her banging Michael's uncle while married to Michael to Sasha getting knocked up by Michael's other uncle (supposedly tm Silas) years after they dated.  Girl, I hope you stretched before that reach, as you don't want to pull a muscle.

Seriously! Of all the things on this show that make zero sense (and there are many) that one literally had me wanting to lock Willow in a padded room. Like, girl, you cheated on your husband with his uncle. IF Sasha got knocked up by Jason, she wasn’t cheating on anyone, let along a spouse!

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Willow and Drew and Sasha are equally stupid and terrible. Sasha has no high ground to stand on when she slept with Willow's husband before she cheated with Drew.  Willows mother is an heiress and she doesn't need Drews money. Sasha has been a con artist from day one and lied about her mother being dead and just took a criminal money. 

Willow is mindless fool who refuses to see Drew as the devil he is trying to move a crypt.  She needs to get slapped some truth. 

Where's Alan? Everyone keeps saying Edward and Lila but not Alan, Aj or Emily. 

If Alexis wants to help Scout, get her away from him. 

Oh look people in a sauna not fully dressed. 

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5 minutes ago, Artsda said:

Willows mother is an heiress and she doesn't need Drews money. Sasha has been a con artist from day one and lied about her mother being dead and just took a criminal money. 

The whole mother conversation baffled me. Harmony had Holly beat in the awfulness department. (Imo, anyway, con woman rates slightly better than cult recruiter.) 

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Willow is right that Sasha is a hypocrite, but she's way off base as to why she is.  And, come on, Willow, in what universe is sleeping with your former boyfriend's uncle multiple years after your relationship ended in the same league as banging your existing husband's uncle?  That's quite a reach. I wish they'd save Willow crowing about what a hypocrite Sasha is until after the real truth comes out about the baby. 

Kristina and Willow actually had a calm rational conversation where they acted like adults and talked honestly about the situation without throwing around insults and accusations. How'd that scene sneak into the script?  

Liz and Lucky make it worth it to hang in there with this show. 

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20 hours ago, ByaNose said:

Matheson is an anomaly though. He was then and now built like a Greek god. He ain’t the greatest actor but he looks good. YMMV!

Matheson got his start modeling. There was a photo floating around a few years ago of his early work in a Sears catalogue modelling underwear.

6 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

I wish Laura didn't have to be involved in his idiocy, but as mayor, the stupid McConkey Promenade does fall within her purview. It's too bad Laura can't stay out of that.

Wouldn't the boundary dispute also be in her purview?

That whole thing is ridiculous. Don't you have to file survey reports when you buy land or make a protected area?

4 hours ago, YaddaYadda said:

I feel like the whole town will be in on Drew's murder, whenever that finally happens.

I'd be up for a Murder on the Orient Express ripoff with Drew in the title role.

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3 hours ago, sacrebleu said:

I actually liked the whole Lucky and Liz sexy times keep getting interrupted 

 

I really loved the their sexy time interuptus because yoy can tell how much they want each other and they keep getting cockblocked by their family members who apparently cannot read the room.

Although they need to replace the actor playing Aiden. When Lucky called him "buddy" I cringed this Aiden is too old to be called that.

When Willow and Carly were talking in the hospital about Drew and he just popped into their conversation, I literally said "ugh don't you have a job to do in DC." That Willow cannot see how people are reacting to how fake and slimy Drew is acting. It is mind-blowing.

Drew wants to move dead people's remains out of spite. There is nothing heroic about his motivation. And once again, when is he going to DC to do his job?

Since Michael is able to video-conference with people, there is no reason why he and Willow cannot finish their child custody agreement for the kids.

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This Drew crusade really is moronic. He wants to disinter Edward and Lila (and Alan, AJ, Emily, Justus - did they bury Bradley there, I can't remember.) How would he sell that to his constituents? "I want to dig up that nice old lady from the relish jar because her daughter got mad at me for sleeping with my nephew's wife in our children's nursery like ONE time?" I mean I have seen some districts elect some real yahoos, from both parties...historically. But they are usually promising something or at least sharing their voters anger about something, real or imaginary. Ain't nobody anywhere getting on board with a guy whose signature achievement is digging up basically a saint and the child of a civil rights hero. And even if those people exist, they would probably think his other signature issue, the Espanade, sounds foreign and would not support it.

We definitely seem to be building to a whodunnit which in true soap fashion will be a whocareswhodunnit because the victim has been made so odious that no one is sad he died. The really great mysteries are about people who we cared died. Harlan Thromby was a cool dude, Lily Kane was awesome, True Detective is usually about some great evil who has to be stopped. These are stories with stakes where we empathize with the victim(s). If everyone, including the audience, hates the character, everything else is hollow.

The only person I will be mad at is Frank because come on, the dude's house just burned down.

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2 hours ago, Grinaldi said:

We definitely seem to be building to a whodunnit which in true soap fashion will be a whocareswhodunnit because the victim has been made so odious that no one is sad he died.

And in the context of the show, nobody will care that he died. They’ll exchange fruit baskets with the most likely suspect and then move on. How many unsolved murders are still lingering? Austin, Jagger, and Cyrus? Jason is the prime suspect in Cyrus’s murder yet is galavanting around Argentina.

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I had seen in an Instagram ad that a Bachelor would be there and when I tuned in, there he was with his blinding teeth and bad acting and I remembered why this show annoyed me so much..

Was happy to see the loan convo between Nina and Ava. I always enjoyed them together. I hope the money thing won’t get in their way.

It was nice to see the two seconds of Liz and Lucky being alone, but the no sex thing is becoming a rule on the show for everyone except Joss and once   in a while Dillow, and feels childish.

Two grown people who have known each other forever and are just reconnecting can’t tell people they need alone time? Even if it was just for a long needed talk.

Carly and Jack are just friends with no benefits. Brooklyn has the hottest husband on screen and we keep seeing her overdressed in the bedroom.

I don’t need graphic details, just a nod to sex being a normal part of loving or just for fun relationships.

I miss the playfulness of a Liesl/Scotty and Lucy/Martin type thing. 

And I really miss Liesl.

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19 hours ago, YaddaYadda said:

I feel like the whole town will be in on Drew's murder, whenever that finally happens.

It's the Port Charles version of Murder on the Orient Express. 

ETA: Maybe it's time for CamMat to shoot some Hallmark movies, and the whodunnit is how they send him off. Though they could also send Drew to DC so he actually, you know, be a congressman.

15 hours ago, tessaray said:

The whole mother conversation baffled me. Harmony had Holly beat in the awfulness department. (Imo, anyway, con woman rates slightly better than cult recruiter.) 

Seriously. Harmony pimped out Willow to Shiloh. Holly ran cons on rich people who could afford to lose some dough. Neither is upstanding, but pimping out a kid is much, much worse than anything Holly did to Sasha (which seems to be emotional neglect at best).

14 hours ago, statsgirl said:

Wouldn't the boundary dispute also be in [Laura's] purview?

Yes, but in the same way putting a stop light would be: It's city-related, but it doesn't need her involvement the way converting land from one use to another does.

13 hours ago, nilyank said:

Since Michael is able to video-conference with people, there is no reason why he and Willow cannot finish their child custody agreement for the kids.

I had to laugh when Carly said she was FaceTiming Michael already. His recovery is roaring along, isn't it? I guess they feel like they have to have a reason for Carly not to be flying back and forth to Germany, but no one cares. And yeah, he should be able to deal with custody issues. Diane will do most of the work anyway; all Michael has to do is nod in agreement.

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Unfortunately, Lucky didn’t get to shower at the hospital which isn’t really any different from when he’s home. Their 50 years old son came home and he mooched off some food so there’s that. They wanted to have sex (because no one on GH does) and, then Laura stopped by. Oh well. So much for that.

Jerk Drew is doing the hard blackmail on poor Portia. She tried to push him off but that dude just won’t give up. He’s so gonna get killed off but when??????

Kristina wanted to take Avery to a special show but it turns out Ava is going to take her. Dead. 

There was an obligatory white towel sauna scenes with Chase and Dante. Nicely done. They never got old Jack Brennan to do one. I’m sure new Jack Brennan will have one or maybe wearing a speedo at the MC pool this summer. 

I actually liked the Carly and Nina scenes today. You can tellLW, CW and MW have working together. I thought Ava was going to tell Nina about Drew blackmailing Portia. If she did I missed it. 
 

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Am I supposed to feel sorry for Kristina, who could have asked before she bought ballet tickets?

And if Ava is broke, how can she afford these "exclusive" ballet tickets?

And is everyone buying their clothes from leftover New Year's party sales?  Gold lamé in March?  Sparkly black fabric?

My dad walked by, saw Chase and Dante in the sauna and asked if it was ratings week.

 

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1 hour ago, ByaNose said:

 and, then Laura stopped by. Oh well. So much for that.

Then today Ric interrupts. I actually liked the Ric/Elizabeth/Lucky scene. Well played by RH (tears in his eyes) and Lucky rolling his eyes made me chuckle. JJ can be so funny in his subtle acting.

So now Maxie and Carly are friends? The three ladies' scene would have made more sense if nuLulu was celebrating a birthday.

I assume this guy with the dark good looks that Lucas is pouring his drunk heart out to and wanting to hook up with will turn out to be Noted Bigot Natalia's son/Blaze's brother.

I thought Lulu would have more tears when she hugged Charlotte.

LOL that Willow accuses Sasha of seducing Jason when he was mourning Sam. Willow knows/has witnessed next to nothing about Jason and Sam. KMc finally showed Willow acting unsure of Drew/a little like a woman telling a man what he wants to hear because of his emotional power over her. 

 

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8 minutes ago, ciarra said:

Am I supposed to feel sorry for Kristina, who could have asked before she bought ballet tickets?

And if Ava is broke, how can she afford these "exclusive" ballet tickets?

I think Ava mentioned her connections to the art world got her comped tickets. I also had zero sympathy for Kristina because she’s never expressed any interest in the arts or ballet and Avery would probably have more fun with her mother rather than her killjoy sister who always acts like she’s just eaten a lemon. 

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It's not good writing to have people insist on buying other people a drink after they've said no.

4 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

LOL that Willow accuses Sasha of seducing Jason when he was mourning Sam. Willow knows/has witnessed next to nothing about Jason and Sam.

That was so WTF. You can mourn one person and fuck someone else at the same time, Willow. She really is grasping at straws to try to have the moral high ground with Sasha.

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22 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

That was so WTF. You can mourn one person and fuck someone else at the same time, Willow. She really is grasping at straws to try to have the moral high ground with Sasha.

Did Willow forget that she went to Drew and he slept with her the first time because he was mourning the dead congressman.  Ditto when Sam died.

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I cannot stress how much I hope Charlotte returning to Port Charles is the end of that part of the story with Lulu.

2 minutes ago, sacrebleu said:

Murder on the McConkey Esplanade does not have the same ring to it (unfortunately)

It has a satisfyingly cheesy ring that definitely suits a murder mystery involving Drew, though!

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Watching two adult women call each other hypocrite over Michael the Simp really is the pits. I think the bottom of that barrel has been scraped hard enough.

I guess now that Charlotte is with her mother, Lulu can focus all energy on harassing BLQ over her son. She'll replace mydaughter with Dante's son.

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14 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

I guess now that Charlotte is with her mother, Lulu can focus all energy on harassing BLQ over her son. She'll replace mydaughter with Dante's son.

Poor Rocco. He'll have Charlotte back in his life and he'll have his world upended (again) by finding out about Gio. Not to mention Danny getting jealous - I assume -that Rocco has a new brother and Dante has another son.

 

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1 hour ago, dubbel zout said:

That was so WTF. You can mourn one person and fuck someone else at the same time, Willow. She really is grasping at straws to try to have the moral high ground with Sasha.

I’m just surprised Sasha didn’t burst into flames with all her indignation over Willow being unfaithful to Michael while Sasha is at a routine medical appointment to check on the development of the baby she adulterously conceived with Willow’s husband. “I didn’t break any marriage vows.” Sure, you didn’t, but Michael certainly did. 

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2 hours ago, Bringonthedrama said:

I assume this guy with the dark good looks that Lucas is pouring his drunk heart out to and wanting to hook up with will turn out to be Noted Bigot Natalia's son/Blaze's brother.

 

The new guy was rather intrusive with his questions for just meeting someone. But I guess Lucas seems to feel an instant connection given that lip lock

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VH plays a very convincing drunk Lucas.  Not sure what to make of the ominous turn to the music as he passed over his room key.

I guess it's good that Charlotte is home, but I imagine the living arrangements may change now.  I suppose they could continue with Rocco staying with his dad and Charlotte staying with her mother, but I don't know that it will last.  Considering, I'm feeling robbed of all of the scenes we should have had of Rocco, Danny and Scout in the aftermath of Sam's death.  They may soon be living in three different places.

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Good job, show! Sasha is a character who I have never cared about and whose ongoing presence on this show has been baffling, but I've never actually disliked her. But knock her up with Michaelspawn, having Aging Saint Jason play daddy for literally no reason and have her get self-righteous with her babydaddy's wife (and, no, it doesn't matter here that I don't like Willow either and she is a cheater herself), and you have whipped up a recipe for actual hatred! She was a non-entity, now she actively sucks! You never fail to fail, General Hospital!

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25 minutes ago, DanaK said:

I guess Lucas seems to feel an instant connection given that lip lock

That instant connection is called too much alcohol.

11 minutes ago, KittenPokerCheater said:

Can't wait for Willow to find out Sasha is carrying Micheal's baby.  I want it to happen now.

Same. It's really boring to watch Sasha go all "I am pregnant single woman, hear me roar" with Jason sort of hovering in the background. (I wonder if anyone will take him to task for putting himself in danger when he supposedly has a baby on the way. Probably not. He's Jasus.) Dragging things out much longer doesn't serve the story at all—not that the writers care, but the stakes here are pretty low. The viewers know what's going on. One or more of the Qs might file for custody or something stupid like that, but the Gio thing is about to blow, and I'd think that would be the more immediate issue.

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Please tell me Lucas was so drunk that he was hallucinating that guy, because no such person actually exists that would listen to that never ending drunken sob story with such generous analysis and sensitivity, the likes of which made me miss Dr. Kevin Collins. 

Note to Lucky and Liz, when someone pops by unannounced, you actually don't have to answer the door.

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6 minutes ago, TVbitch said:

Please tell me Lucas was so drunk that he was hallucinating that guy, because no such person actually exists that would listen to that never ending drunken sob story with such generous analysis and sensitivity, the likes of which made me miss Dr. Kevin Collins. 

Note to Lucky and Liz, when someone pops by unannounced, you actually don't have to answer the door.

Or maybe go upstairs and you won’t hear anyone. That said, I don’t think GH has the budget to give Liz a bedroom. So it’s couch sex for them. 

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12 minutes ago, TVbitch said:

Please tell me Lucas was so drunk that he was hallucinating that guy, because no such person actually exists that would listen to that never ending drunken sob story with such generous analysis and sensitivity, the likes of which made me miss Dr. Kevin Collins. 

Lucas was at a medical conference. The guy could have been a psychiatrist (could have, being the operative words.)

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Holy Jeebus Cripes on a Cracker.

Get home and buzzed through two weeks of this show and ugh. Lucky and Elizabeth are the only bright spots.

Show has really destroyed the character of Drew. I’m at a loss as to why Drew is acting out like a petulant five year old. He hates the Quartermaines, yet wants to keep the name, and yet also wants to destroy Tracy. 

This whole public land/eminent domain is all Marty’s fault as is the ridonkulous assault charge that the surveyor only agreed to do at Marty’s nodding yes.

And like Willow wouldn’t know who/the name of “her patient” would be before entering that room. The “your boinking” is worse than mine blame game was so stupid and childish.

If Show wants to keep Drew swanning around in Port Charles instead of, you know, have his ass be in DC-they should have had him run as a State senator instead. It’s beyond stupid he hasn’t set foot in DC except for his supposed swearing in.

JJ is just the best.

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VH plays drunk very well. Too well -- if this new guy has any moral compass he would turn down the pass from a man who ovbiously is too drunk to know what he is doing.

Is Charlotte going to move in with Lulu now, who has moved in with Laura and Ace in the apartment where Lucky has also moved in?  How does Kevin (who?) feel about all of Laura's family (except for the one in jail)  living wit him?

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6 hours ago, TVbitch said:

Please tell me Lucas was so drunk that he was hallucinating that guy, because no such person actually exists that would listen to that never ending drunken sob story

...unless he wanted to get into his pants.

3 hours ago, statsgirl said:

Is Charlotte going to move in with Lulu now, who has moved in with Laura and Ace in the apartment where Lucky has also moved in? 

It's like Sam's ever-expanding apartment -- the one that always had an extra bedroom, no matter how many kids and adults lived there. 

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If anyone deserves a house set it’s frickin Genie Francis. Just sayin…..

I liked Anna’s house until I’m assuming RC burnt it down to the ground. Just foolish.

So Drew is pretty much getting killed off at this press conference speech thingy right? Although, he’s got to find out that Sasha is carrying Michael’s baby to have the whole cast be possible suspects. Of course, it will be a nobody day player because they don’t let contract people have any fun. LOL!!!! I do ask that he be shirtless for it. It would be such a waste to have Cameron Matheson covered up. LOL!!!! 

Lucky looks like hasn’t showered since the hospital stay or in real life. If they are actually paying someone in the hair department for that look they should be fired. Although, it think it’s a Jonathan Jackson thing and he likes that dirty look. He’s 42 now and it’s an awful look but I can’t do everything. 

Carly and Brennan look like they might have potential sex which should take about 2 minutes or so. 

Also, I had a total random thought today. Out of the blue, I was wondering what Avery Pohl who played Esme is up to these days. College? Acting? I told you it was random. Actually, it wasn’t that random. I was watching tmz. They were discussing the Mendez brothers case and showed the Netflix show Monster and NAC was on my screen……then I thought about Avery Pohl. I’m unemployed. I really have too much time on my hands. LOL!!!!

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13 hours ago, statsgirl said:

Is Charlotte going to move in with Lulu now, who has moved in with Laura and Ace in the apartment where Lucky has also moved in? 

They'll move into the Q mansion so Charlotte can be with her brothers. And Lulu can continue to berate BL for her choices 20 years ago that have nothing to do with Lulu whatsoever. If any home in Port Charles has limitless space, it's the Q mansion.

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3 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

They'll move into the Q mansion so Charlotte can be with her brothers. And Lulu can continue to berate BL for her choices 20 years ago that have nothing to do with Lulu whatsoever. If any home in Port Charles has limitless space, it's the Q mansion.

Lulu wasn't berating her. Lulu was calling her out on her bs, and the crappy-ass way she had and was treating Dante. And, yes, it DOES have something to do with her. Brooklyn has been keeping a MASSIVE secret from Dante, Lulu's ex, someone that Brooklyn claims is her friend, for 21 years. And during those 21 years, Lulu and Dante were married, very much in love, and there are still very strong feelings. 

Also, this is something that could potentially effect their son, Rocco, as well. What if he needs medical aid and a sibling is the best help, and Charlotte isn't around. Or, since she's underage, isn't the best choice.

Besides, Brooklyn is not keeping this secret to protect her "baaaby!!!!" Her "baaaaby!" is a 21 year old grown-ass adult. Brooklyn is doing this because she doesn't want to risk blowing up her life once again!! with her lies and secret-keeping.

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