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To air on November 10, 2019:

John and Jessica’s relationship gets a lot more complicated after she delivers some surprising news. Bradford and West are assigned a community policing project helping out the Watts Rams as volunteer coaches at their Fall clinic.

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36 minutes ago, paigow said:

These titles are incredibly dull and uninspiring,..

Ironically (as this is much lighter in tone), these are Law & Order franchise-type episode titles.

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6 hours ago, femmefan1946 said:

I take it the Watts Rams are some sort of celebrity sportsball group? 

I would assume a Pee Wee or Pop Warner football team. The officers would be the "celebrities"  helping out the neighborhood men who are the normal coaches. Why Watts when you would think that South Wilshire,, wherever that might be, would have their own teams of youth? My only guess is that the real kids are used and an actual NFL Ram makes a cameo.

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1 hour ago, Raja said:

I would assume a Pee Wee or Pop Warner football team. The officers would be the "celebrities"  helping out the neighborhood men who are the normal coaches. Why Watts when you would think that South Wilshire,, wherever that might be, would have their own teams of youth? My only guess is that the real kids are used and an actual NFL Ram makes a cameo.

I have no idea where Watts is exactly or South Wilshire or anything about the geography of Los Angeles without looking it up, but my guess is they are using Watts because that name means something to the rest of the country. We've heard of Watts.

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If Bradford was a true fan of the Rams, and the TV viewing was interrupted, he should have quickly ran to get a radio to hear what's going on. Let the other cops catch the criminal, the game is on.

How much OT did he earn for his 1 minute of work?

The episode is titled "Safety", Nyla and Chen are not wearing gloves in the tunnel and could have been cut by a needle or whatever is disgusting in there.

The academy didn't teach Chen how to handle herself in the street? Last season, she was the pepper spraying queen!

For all of Nyla's tough talk to Chen, she had to be the one to make noise outside and put Chen in danger.

West or Bradford didn't feel like giving chase to the fire bombers? Couldn't have gotten that far.

Mingus felt safe with only Angela providing security, knowing he will be carrying $2 million in diamonds?

Lev didn't have have a better way to call and approach his cousin (Hey.. Hey.. Hey)? He deserved to be tackled.

Would AJ have provided the tip to the police if his mother was home?

Didn't the 4 thieves see the movie "Heat" to know there is a standard set on how to deal with the police if caught in a tight spot? 

Nolan you have broken up with a mental patient, consider yourself lucky!

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I'll never understand men of a certain age who don't get the snip. Come on. How many 40+ year old guys want a kid?

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40 minutes ago, rhys said:

I'll never understand men of a certain age who don't get the snip. Come on. How many 40+ year old guys want a kid?

And then he's got the cohones (pun intended) to tell her to wait a year or two. What a putz.

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12 minutes ago, preeya said:

And then he's got the cohones (pun intended) to tell her to wait a year or two. What a putz.

That was pretty bad.   Although at their ages, it's ridiculous to not know how to use birth control.  They aren't 18 year old kids.  

NF wasn't in it that much.  I wonder if he was filming "Suicide Squad" and they were trying to give him an easy out.  

For me, same as always.  It moves along really fast, I like it, but it is forgettable and you have to put disbelief to the side to buy into any of it.  It's a lot like 9-1-1.  I think this is ABC's knock-off.

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21 hours ago, preeya said:

Although at their ages, it's ridiculous to not know how to use birth control.  They aren't 18 year old kids.

He was lucky. Jessica must have gone off The Pill  for pregnancy to even be a question. And didn't tell him. Not nice. Or smart.
I know a few women who take it every day, because they really really hate periods.

They didn't have The Talk?  Even the merry widows in the seniors residence have The Talk when they find a capable partner. In Crazy Ex-Girlfriend, Rachel Bloom tucked it into the song "Sexy Stranger (Please Don't Be A Murderer)".

Otherwise, Nathan got some physical comedy in with the car seat. So I guess he's happy.

The show was at 10:42 before I realized. Things moved along.

I'm getting to like Nyla. Such a bitch. Love it.

The sportsball stuff was not too annoying. The kid is smooth. Hope the actor has a good career in the future.

And all three of the "community service" leads worked out. Pregnant lady , squirrel hater, and They Live in the Shadows report.

Mingus felt safe with only Angela providing security, knowing he will be carrying $2 million in diamonds?

It was pretty apparent that he is an idiot. Born on third base and thought he hit a triple.

Angela's friend is getting some non-Bradford screentime. Good. And their conversation was almost Bechtel-worthy.

There were a LOT of commercials. And while I see different ones here in Canada, it's good for the show that most were pretty high end.

Two different cars, a couple of banks, sanitary paper (Bounty and Purell), meal box delivery, vacation, local high end appliance dealer, Apple TV, Disney, a couple of upcoming movies.
That means whatever the audience is, the advertisers are willing to buy some time  with those eyeballs.

If your favourite show is filling commercial breaks with ads for  local lube job joints, the station's own programs, payday loans, or "as seen on TV " products, the end is nigh.

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1 hour ago, femmefan1946 said:
3 hours ago, preeya said:

Although at their ages, it's ridiculous to not know how to use birth control.  They aren't 18 year old kids.

He was lucky. Jessica must have gone off The Pill  for pregnancy to even be a question. And didn't tell him. Not nice. Or smart.
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My oldest daughter is Shahi’s age and has switched from The Pill to the newer IUD that delivers a healthier lower dose of hormones, so, assuming that’s what Jessica has, she probably didn’t do anything “wrong.” Nothing is 100% effective. 
What was “wrong,” IMO, was the script and direction —as was noted upthread— and I blame that on the formula of cramming a cornucopia of resolved plots into each episode. 
 

My favorite is usually the comedic opener, and it was this time too. It was ridiculous, but fun. 
 

I also liked the way Chen and the veteran female officer bonded —even though it was equally unrealistic. 
Lopez managing the diamond guy was enjoyable. 
The football plot had a few interesting twists. 
 

Just remember that a big dose of suspension of disbelief is required for this show, and it’s kind of like watching a video at a slightly faster speed. 
 

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If after all these years Jessica's cycle is changing, she's smart not to put off trying to have kids. Too bad it took a false alarm to make her realize what she wants, or she could have focused on meeting a guy who wanted the same thing. Now she's in a big rush.

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10 hours ago, mxc90 said:

Didn't the 4 thieves see the movie "Heat" to know there is a standard set on how to deal with the police if caught in a tight spot? 

I think it was Mike Tyson who said the plan falls apart with the first hit you take to the face. When Officer Lopez came up shooting the video game movie fantasy becomes I can actually die right now

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1 hour ago, ItCouldBeWorse said:

If after all these years Jessica's cycle is changing, she's smart not to put off trying to have kids. Too bad it took a false alarm to make her realize what she wants, or she could have focused on meeting a guy who wanted the same thing. Now she's in a big rush.

Good point on this just probably meaning her cycle is changing (as in "The Change" aka menopause) which set off a psychological alarm for her regarding the state of her biological clock. 

But the script formula for this show just does not allow for them to have an appropriately  meaningful conversation.
--And I'm glad this is not that kind of show (I do not watch This Is Us).-- 
But then they opened the door too wide onto the pregnancy talk with Jessica saying that it was Nolan who made her want to have kids, but she can't wait for "a year or two."
This makes no sense to me because she's not going to find another Nolan and get to know him well enough to plan a family in any less time than that.

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On 11/8/2019 at 6:31 PM, paigow said:

These titles are incredibly dull and uninspiring,..

Well, it's better than "Episode 1, Episode 2" 

10 hours ago, mxc90 said:

If Bradford was a true fan of the Rams, and the TV viewing was interrupted, he should have quickly ran to get a radio to hear what's going on. Let the other cops catch the criminal, the game is on.

How much OT did he earn for his 1 minute of work?

Then we wouldn't have had that amusing intro. I'm not sure, but clocking in might be required to participate in a chase, rather than get money.

6 hours ago, femmefan1946 said:

They didn't have The Talk?  Even the merry widows in the seniors residence have The Talk when they find a capable partner. In Crazy Ex-Girlfriend, Rachel Bloom tucked it into the song "Sexy Stranger (Please Don't Be A Murderer)".

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Two different cars, a couple of banks, sanitary paper (Bounty and Purell), meal box delivery, vacation, local high end appliance dealer, Apple TV, Disney, a couple of upcoming movies.
That means whatever the audience is, the advertisers are willing to buy some time  with those eyeballs.

If your favourite show is filling commercial breaks with ads for  local lube job joints, the station's own programs, payday loans, or "as seen on TV " products, the end is nigh.

Seniors are get STDs at fairly high rates, so I think plenty are not having the talk. I had to convince a recently divorced (post-menopausal) friend of mine that she needed protection - and it took  a LOT of convincing. Many in my generation thinks of condoms more as pregnancy protection than STD protection.

5 hours ago, shapeshifter said:

My oldest daughter is Shahi’s age and has switched from The Pill to the newer IUD that delivers a healthier lower dose of hormones, so, assuming that’s what Jessica has, she probably didn’t do anything “wrong.” Nothing is 100% effective.

Based on both my daughter's and my own experience - those kinds of IUDs can also if not stop periods (as mine did) then significantly reduce them (my daughter's experience).

2 minutes ago, shapeshifter said:

But then they opened the door too wide onto the pregnancy talk with Jessica saying that it was Nolan who made her want to have kids, but she can't wait for "a year or two."

This makes no sense to me because she's not going to find another Nolan and get to know him well enough to plan a family in any less time than that.

I  thought as well, but there is an not insignificant risk  that she could wait, and then Nolan would still not be into it. Whereas, if she started looking for someone who wanted a family (and has a positive outlook) - it might take as much time, but she'd be more or less assured of the outcome. Either choice has it's risks - but I'd think if it were me, I'd take the same path.

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15 minutes ago, shapeshifter said:

But then they opened the door too wide onto the pregnancy talk with Jessica saying that it was Nolan who made her want to have kids, but she can't wait for "a year or two."
This makes no sense to me because she's not going to find another Nolan and get to know him well enough to plan a family in any less time than that.

That was my first thought as well, but then again it was mentioned that Shaw Jessica is older and well established in her career - if she wants to be a single mom, she can probably handle it. (Yes, Nolan was the catalyst, but apparently after the scare he wasn't the only reason.)

Similarly, I was calling bullshit on Nolan not having given an iota of consideration to potentially having another kid from when he was sleeping with Chen, but he might have thought about it then and figured that waiting a few years would be reasonable in her case.

Never saw much chemistry between them but will miss seeing the actress get work. Blonde doctor who's presumably next up hasn't caught my interest yet.

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5 minutes ago, Emma9 said:

Similarly, I was calling bullshit on Nolan not having given an iota of consideration to potentially having another kid from when he was sleeping with Chen, but he might have thought about it then and figured that waiting a few years would be reasonable in her case.

"Waiting a few years," it may be odd, but he's not Tony Randall.

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10 minutes ago, preeya said:

"Waiting a few years," it may be odd, but he's not Tony Randall.

It's not about Nolan's age, but his not thinking about the biological clock heading towards midnight on Jessica.

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Blonde doctor who's presumably next up hasn't caught my interest yet.

I'm waiting for the reveal that her kid is Nolan's kid. I know she said her kid was 8, but I think she said that because he would do the math if she said her kid was 20. Nolan suddenly broke up with her to be with his ex because his ex was pregnant. Blonde doctor knew he couldn't be married to two people, so just raised Oliver on her own. 

There has to be  reason her kid has come up in the conversation more than once.

They couldn't figure out what to do with Sarah Shahi's character, so hopefully, this frees her up to get a real acting job. She's very good.

I don't know where Harper got her law degree, but I got mine from Law and Order. I thought garbage was fair game for a warrantless search only when it was placed curbside because it meant that it was now firmly abandoned property. The squirrel-feeding bomber hadn't put out the trash for collection yet, so I don't think the evidence she collected could have been used. 

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1 hour ago, shapeshifter said:

Good point on this just probably meaning her cycle is changing (as in "The Change" aka menopause) which set off a psychological alarm for her regarding the state of her biological clock. 

But the script formula for this show just does not allow for them to have an appropriately  meaningful conversation.
--And I'm glad this is not that kind of show (I do not watch This Is Us).-- 
But then they opened the door too wide onto the pregnancy talk with Jessica saying that it was Nolan who made her want to have kids, but she can't wait for "a year or two."
This makes no sense to me because she's not going to find another Nolan and get to know him well enough to plan a family in any less time than that.

As someone else said, Nolan just said “revisit” his feelings in a year or two, not that he would guarantee being ready for another kid in a year or two. 

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I really dislike blonde ex-girlfriend.  She couldn't be more suburban seeming.  And she has just been so over the top obvious.  Not that I like the current girlfriend at all, either -- she doesn't suit Nolan's character at all.  Chen was the best gf of a bad lot and I think there were pscyh. problems/uncomfortablenesses there caused by the age difference.

I found the Rams' byplay utterly unwatchable  - sooo cliched and written without transitions or grace.  

I miss Talia.

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30 minutes ago, kili said:

I'm waiting for the reveal that her kid is Nolan's kid. I know she said her kid was 8, but I think she said that because he would do the math if she said her kid was 20. Nolan suddenly broke up with her to be with his ex because his ex was pregnant. Blonde doctor knew he couldn't be married to two people, so just raised Oliver on her own. 

There has to be  reason her kid has come up in the conversation more than once.

They couldn't figure out what to do with Sarah Shahi's character, so hopefully, this frees her up to get a real acting job. She's very good.

I don't know where Harper got her law degree, but I got mine from Law and Order. I thought garbage was fair game for a warrantless search only when it was placed curbside because it meant that it was now firmly abandoned property. The squirrel-feeding bomber hadn't put out the trash for collection yet, so I don't think the evidence she collected could have been used. 

If she’s gonna lie about the kids age because it’s Nolan’s then shave a couple years off but doubt they would have had her say he’s 8 when he’s likely 19 if they were headed down that story path. 

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At this point, I'm pretty much tuning in only to see how much Nolan's house grows from one episode to the next.  Two weeks ago he was hanging a mirror, and now all walls are gone revealing one giant room approximately 1,000 sq. ft.  In LA.  On a cop's salary. 

What was the point of Bradford and West going to the football camp?  And do hospitals really have cops show up to show pregnant women how to install car seats?  That was a really lame way to put Nolan back in the hospital.  And Nolan would totally have the rest of the day off after being cut severely enough it needed stitches. 

I only liked the Chen/Nyla scenes in this episode.  But tell me if I got this wrong... Chen was following the worn areas of the floor boards to avoid the weight-sensor plates.  But didn't the guy activate the plates by playing with the security panel on the wall?  So it's not like he had to avoid them for 10 years - they simply were turned off all that time. 

ETA:  Isn't Ali Lartner's character an ER doctor?  So why would she be the one leading the pregnancy class?  Except, of course, to put her in a room with Nolan.  Again, lazy writing.

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43 minutes ago, Raja said:

It's not about Nolan's age, but his not thinking about the biological clock heading towards midnight on Jessica.

If Nolan might want to have another child, he really should think about his age.  The father's age has also been linked to a baby's health problems.  The older the father, the higher the risks.   TV shows never talk about that, but they should.  Try something new, show!  Maybe if it had been Chen, Nolan could have made that point, "Whoah, no, I've done research and a baby's health is negatively affected by an older father,, don't want to take that risk.  I'm done making babies."

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Chen was following the worn areas of the floor boards to avoid the weight-sensor plates.  But didn't the guy activate the plates by playing with the security panel on the wall?  So it's not like he had to avoid them for 10 years - they simply were turned off all that time. 

He had blown off two of his fingers, so perhaps he didn't trust his own bombs? Best to stay off the pressure plates in case something has gone wrong? 

She really had little choice. Once he got the big bomb activated, she was toast. He was unlikely to set a long timer because he wanted all the evidence to go. So, taking the chance to set off the pressure plates was her best shot. 

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So I'm OK with 'suspended disbelief' with this show, but seriously- The Mad Bomber lives in a charming Victorian cottage on a wide, well-maintained lot? And he feeds squirrels? Yeah, very Ted Kaczynski.

Did I miss what his motive was?

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22 hours ago, kili said:

I don't know where Harper got her law degree, but I got mine from Law and Order. I thought garbage was fair game for a warrantless search only when it was placed curbside because it meant that it was now firmly abandoned property. The squirrel-feeding bomber hadn't put out the trash for collection yet, so I don't think the evidence she collected could have been used. 

Yep, that was my understanding as well. I think I got my law degree from Harry Bosch novels. 😄

21 hours ago, chaifan said:

What was the point of Bradford and West going to the football camp?  And do hospitals really have cops show up to show pregnant women how to install car seats?  That was a really lame way to put Nolan back in the hospital.  And Nolan would totally have the rest of the day off after being cut severely enough it needed stitches. 

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ETA:  Isn't Ali Lartner's character an ER doctor?  So why would she be the one leading the pregnancy class?  Except, of course, to put her in a room with Nolan.  Again, lazy writing.

Yes, cops do show pregnant women (and spouses) how to install car seats. Our department even has special clinics so the cops can install car seats - and anyone can stop by one of the stations to get theirs installed. We're a small town, so the stations are likely closer than the hospital, so I can see cops actually doing this as part of community policing in a big city. But our hospital and clinics do offer a lot of seminars like that.

I did wonder about the ER doctor handling this clinic - but it does make some convoluted sense - as she's the doctor who sees the results of poorly installed car seats. It's a stretch - but it's there.

I've never liked Ali Larter before, but I find I'm actually warming up to her in this role. Sometimes it has as much to do with who an actor is playing scenes with - and since she's mostly with Nathan, she comes off a bit warmer than she typically does (at least for me).

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40 minutes ago, chaifan said:

At this point, I'm pretty much tuning in only to see how much Nolan's house grows from one episode to the next.  Two weeks ago he was hanging a mirror, and now all walls are gone revealing one giant room approximately 1,000 sq. ft.  In LA.  On a cop's salary. 

What was the point of Bradford and West going to the football camp?  And do hospitals really have cops show up to show pregnant women how to install car seats?  That was a really lame way to put Nolan back in the hospital.  And Nolan would totally have the rest of the day off after being cut severely enough it needed stitches. 

I only liked the Chen/Nyla scenes in this episode.  But tell me if I got this wrong... Chen was following the worn areas of the floor boards to avoid the weight-sensor plates.  But didn't the guy activate the plates by playing with the security panel on the wall?  So it's not like he had to avoid them for 10 years - they simply were turned off all that time. 

ETA:  Isn't Ali Lartner's character an ER doctor?  So why would she be the one leading the pregnancy class?  Except, of course, to put her in a room with Nolan.  Again, lazy writing.

I can't think of a show where they played the story that LA cops can't actually afford to live in LA, unless it was a plot point of the off duty officer being in the hood. It does seem as if South Wilshire on the show has become a real life neighborhood and Mid Wilshire.  So the detective was able to deal with a mad dog pull her kid our of school and get to the station in mere minutes so I guess she lives on her beat.

The football camp was merely for the NFL cameo.

As for the mad bomber he had been waiting years for this moment and I supposed had rehearsed his movements around the house for those last seconds of life, or perhaps an escape plan if the threat of the land mines stopped the pursuer in her tracks.

As for the doctor of all medicine like the scientist of all specialties or the pilot that can fly all planes and helicopters. That is among the most well worn TV tropes.

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2 minutes ago, Raja said:

I can't think of a show where they played the story that LA cops can't actually afford to live in LA, unless it was a plot point of the off duty officer being in the hood. It does seem as if South Wilshire on the show has become a real life neighborhood and Mid Wilshire.  So the detective was able to deal with a mad dog pull her kid our of school and get to the station in mere minutes so I guess she lives on her beat.

The football camp was merely for the NFL cameo.

As for the mad bomber he had been waiting years for this moment and I supposed had rehearsed his movements around the house for those last seconds of life, or perhaps an escape plan if the threat of the land mines stopped the pursuer in her tracks.

As for the doctor of all medicine like the scientist of all specialties or the pilot that can fly all planes and helicopters. That is among the most well worn TV tropes.

Most TV shows have their characters living in places they could never afford on their typical salaries (New York based shows being among the worst), so I tend to shrug it off.

In addition to the NFL cameo, it offered some backstory for West and Bradford - and if I'm not mistaken, provided the first time those two actually interacted by themselves. They're changing it up a bit this season, and I like seeing the different dynamics. I also wonder if this isn't the beginning of an on-going outreach project Bradford and West might work on together.

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1 hour ago, kili said:

I don't know where Harper got her law degree, but I got mine from Law and Order. I thought garbage was fair game for a warrantless search only when it was placed curbside because it meant that it was now firmly abandoned property. The squirrel-feeding bomber hadn't put out the trash for collection yet, so I don't think the evidence she collected could have been used. 

I don't remember where I learned it, but I worked for a newspaper, so possibly I learned it from a legitimate source (although possibly Law and Order), but my understanding is that if the trash can is on private property, you can't go through it. If it's on public property -- set out on the street or kept in an alley or on a right-of-way that is not private property -- it's fair game. Now that I think about it, I think I learned it through work, not in relation to police, but in relation to people scavenging through dumpsters. If the dumpster is kept on the business's property, it's illegal to go through it, but if it's in the alley, it's legal. I would assume the same would apply to police searches without warrants. So the question is where exactly the trash cans were. I couldn't tell. Were they in a driveway or an alley or near the edge of the property in what might be a right-of-way?

12 minutes ago, Clanstarling said:

Yes, cops do show pregnant women (and spouses) how to install car seats. Our department even has special clinics so the cops can install car seats - and anyone can crop by one of the stations to get theirs installed. We're a small town, so the stations are likely closer than the hospital, so I can see cops actually doing this as part of community policing in a big city. But our hospital and clinics do offer a lot of seminars like that.

They do it here too (also relatively small town). The police and firefighters have a clinic once or twice a year at least to install car seats and do other kid things. I don't know for sure, but I suspect you can stop by the police station or a fire station for help also.

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2 hours ago, Emma9 said:

Similarly, I was calling bullshit on Nolan not having given an iota of consideration to potentially having another kid from when he was sleeping with Chen, but he might have thought about it then and figured that waiting a few years would be reasonable in her case.

They weren't really serious, and Chen was a rookie, too, and likely wouldn't want a kid for a while (if ever.)

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3 hours ago, Raja said:

I think it was Mike Tyson who said the plan falls apart with the first hit you take to the face. When Officer Lopez came up shooting the video game movie fantasy becomes I can actually die right now

No plan of operations extends with any certainty beyond the first contact with the main hostile force - Field Marshal Helmuth Karl Bernhard Graf von Moltke (26 October 1800 – 24 April 1891)

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She really ambushed him with the pregnancy. You could tell by his face that he was just not into it.

At least this clears the way for the doctor: now their scenes will make sense.

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14 hours ago, mxc90 said:

If Bradford was a true fan of the Rams, and the TV viewing was interrupted, he should have quickly ran to get a radio to hear what's going on. Let the other cops catch the criminal, the game is on.

I thought he got involved because coincidentally the car chase was going right by his house.  How convenient.  But not the most unbelievable plot point that's ever been included in this goofy show.

5 hours ago, ItCouldBeWorse said:

If after all these years Jessica's cycle is changing, she's smart not to put off trying to have kids. Too bad it took a false alarm to make her realize what she wants, or she could have focused on meeting a guy who wanted the same thing. Now she's in a big rush.

That's what I immediately thought.  She said her cycle is like clockwork, which made me think that okay, either she's pregnant or she's heading into perimenopause, and probably more likely the latter.  Unfortunately for her, at her age and with the variation of her cycle she's probably going to have a difficult time getting pregnant whether she "waits a couple of years" with Nolan or tries to hurry and find somebody else.

4 hours ago, shapeshifter said:

This makes no sense to me because she's not going to find another Nolan and get to know him well enough to plan a family in any less time than that.

Yep.  This was stupid.

I never really did like the character so I'm not disappointed she's apparently going to be gone, plus they've been telegraphing that the blond doctor is about to become Nolan's new love interest ever since he first started spending part of each episode at the hospital when he never used to go there for anything but now ALL his cases take him there.  I'm not going off any spoilers, just what they've been hitting me over the head with for several episodes now.  And cherry on top - blond doctor said she didn't want any more kids!  Just like Nolan!

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5 hours ago, shapeshifter said:

Good point on this just probably meaning her cycle is changing (as in "The Change" aka menopause) which set off a psychological alarm for her regarding the state of her biological clock. 

But the script formula for this show just does not allow for them to have an appropriately  meaningful conversation.
--And I'm glad this is not that kind of show (I do not watch This Is Us).-- 
But then they opened the door too wide onto the pregnancy talk with Jessica saying that it was Nolan who made her want to have kids, but she can't wait for "a year or two."
This makes no sense to me because she's not going to find another Nolan and get to know him well enough to plan a family in any less time than that.

It doesn't matter, at this point a real Nolan is not sticking it in there again. At best she finds some guy who wants to partake and accidents do happen.

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4 hours ago, BlakesMomma said:

As someone else said, Nolan just said “revisit” his feelings in a year or two, not that he would guarantee being ready for another kid in a year or two. 

He's got an adult son that has already talked about getting married. In a few years he'll likely be a grandfather; why would he ever want to have a child of his own at this stage in life?

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8 hours ago, preeya said:

He's got an adult son that has already talked about getting married. In a few years he'll likely be a grandfather; why would he ever want to have a child of his own at this stage in life?

If he had fallen deeply in love with a (younger) childless woman who made it clear that having a child was non-negotiable and he really wanted to remain part of her life, I could see him getting engaged or married, but asking her to wait until his rookie days were over to have a baby.  In other words, he would be able to happily visualize having a family together in the near future.

He's not deeply in love with the Sarah Shahi character, and she hadn't made her position clear until this very moment, with no time to spare.  She can suddenly visualize having a family with him, but he doesn't feel that way about her.

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This reminded me of the episode of "Parks and Recreation" when Leslie found out she was pregnant with triplets.  She mentioned to her doctor (played by Henry Winkler) that she sure was fertile, and the doctor said, "No, you're just pre-menapausal.  Its like your ovaries are having a Going Out of Business Sale". LOL

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I was hoping Jessica would have done her "Mona Lisa Vitto" impression to explain why she could not wait for Nolan....

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4 minutes ago, paigow said:

I was hoping Jessica would have done her "Mona Lisa Vitto" impression to explain why she could not wait for Nolan....

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Mona Lisa Vito one of my all time favorite characters.

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6 hours ago, chaifan said:

I only liked the Chen/Nyla scenes in this episode.  But tell me if I got this wrong... Chen was following the worn areas of the floor boards to avoid the weight-sensor plates.  But didn't the guy activate the plates by playing with the security panel on the wall?  So it's not like he had to avoid them for 10 years - they simply were turned off all that time. 

ETA:  Isn't Ali Lartner's character an ER doctor?  So why would she be the one leading the pregnancy class?  Except, of course, to put her in a room with Nolan.  Again, lazy writing.

Yeah, I didn't quite get the logic of the worn floorboards indicating where the plates are since surely he wouldn't have them turned on enough to to make him walk in the "safe spots" often enough to wear off the wood, but whatever.  I don't have any solid info to back this up but would guess he would have to "practice walk" multiple times a day every day for the 10 years to build a visible, distinct enough pattern to show where it's safe to walk as opposed to just general normal wear.  Just guessing?

Plus he didn't seem like a guy who would care about feeding squirrels at all.  Maybe he did it because he knew he was flouting an ordinance, but that seems like it would be small potatoes to a bomber.  Maybe he just likes to irritate people before he blows them up!?

Also I could totally buy a hospital in a big city having a car seat demonstration for expectant parents, but it would probably be handled by obstetrics, not the ER.  Whatever!  And of course a crazed, drug-using father-to-be bursts in and starts trouble in front of everyone else there instead of waiting until he can get the poor expectant mother alone.

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27 minutes ago, Blue Plastic said:

Yeah, I didn't quite get the logic of the worn floorboards indicating where the plates are since surely he wouldn't have them turned on enough to to make him walk in the "safe spots" often enough to wear off the wood, but whatever.  I don't have any solid info to back this up but would guess he would have to "practice walk" multiple times a day every day for the 10 years to build a visible, distinct enough pattern to show where it's safe to walk as opposed to just general normal wear.  Just guessing?

Plus he didn't seem like a guy who would care about feeding squirrels at all.  Maybe he did it because he knew he was flouting an ordinance, but that seems like it would be small potatoes to a bomber.  Maybe he just likes to irritate people before he blows them up!?

My theory would be that if you're enough of a planner to implement exploding plates escape measures, you're enough of a planner to anticipate that your exit might be blocked after you activate them, and you'd need to practice enough to not only get through them, but to get through them quickly.  And that would be a lot of practice.

The squirrels thing is random - but just 'cause he likes to explode things and people, doesn't mean he doesn't like animals. 😉

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OK, one more quibble... what woman tells her boyfriend that she might be pregnant, just when she's late?  Especially people of that age.  Go to the drug store, get a pregnancy test, take it, and then you let the boyfriend know.  That way you're worrying about only one thing at a time - the results - and if it's positive, then you worry about the boyfriend's response.  But Jessica makes a special trip to Nolan's house in the morning, just to say, hey, I'm late.  He should break up with her just for that. 

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15 minutes ago, auntlada said:

What was the original bombing he was a suspect in? Something at UCLA maybe?

Did they cover the UCLA bombings in 2009?

Yeah, of course. They recovered an unexploded pipe bomb. With a red hair inside of it.

You think that's him.    Well, we'll need a DNA sample to be sure, but...

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