2019 Auditions, Finals, and Training Camp Spoilers

[Coffeefrog19]

I've seen this in many  posts but I have no clue what it means. What or who is TPTB

[Spunkyyy]

7 minutes ago, Coffeefrog19 said:

I've seen this in many  posts but I have no clue what it means. What or who is TPTB

The powers that be

[Lolfordays]

7 hours ago, AerialDancer said:

I bet that if we saw these women in real life, I bet they look amazing, but they all look sloppy, soft and chubby in this video. 

We’ve all seriously lost perspective on reality, but it’s a good reminder how fit the DCC are. 

Eagles cheerleaders regularly visits the luxury boxes - they are pretty flawless in person. I am with you on the dancing, but frankly there is minimal expectation for that. From fans or anyone. 

The DCC as we have all discussed, aren’t fit. Off camera, the majority are sickly looking. Bony. Many are starving themselves. We have all heard the various drug rumors — that ain’t fit.

Also, the Eagles cheerleaders have a series of pieces that make up the uniform — I am guessing there won’t be a lot of the old Vera Wang designed white bra and panties set this season. They have a male cheerleader now who is in a black athletic type outfit, and they have been more in the white/black/green outfits this preseason to coordinate with that.

[Coffeefrog19]

21 hours ago, Pj3422 said:

I didn’t think it was possible: a universally unflattering uniform. 

What was Amy's mistake? 

[Lolfordays]

I am watching the episode now and I will never ever get the “VK is such a knockout” thing. The mouth. I have said this before, but maybe it is a “Dallas” pretty thing — the just “too much” of everything. I don’t get it.

[patti0855]

Just watched the first episode, that new song is horrendous! Please do away with it . . . NOW!

[DCCFanInKy]

8 minutes ago, Coffeefrog19 said:

What was Amy's mistake? 

note:  I didn't watch the entire youtube video so I don't know if it really shows the flub

Edited August 6, 2019 by DCCFanInKy
Formatting and forum being glitchy and not letting me edit

[BeautyOfDreams]

6 minutes ago, Lolfordays said:

Eagles cheerleaders regularly visits the luxury boxes - they are pretty flawless in person. I am with you on the dancing, but frankly there is minimal expectation for that. From fans or anyone. 

The DCC as we have all discussed, aren’t fit. Off camera, the majority are sickly looking. Bony. Many are starving themselves. We have all heard the various drug rumors — that ain’t fit.

Also, the Eagles cheerleaders have a series of pieces that make up the uniform — I am guessing there won’t be a lot of the old Vera Wang designed white bra and panties set this season. They have a male cheerleader now who is in a black athletic type outfit, and they have been more in the white/black/green outfits this preseason to coordinate with that.

Every nfl team is different...they all have their own brand, looks, feel. DCC is definitely in a lane its own, not necessarily better, but they have a brand and they stick to it. Some teams like smaller girls while other teams prefer more of a natural body and curves. Some teams are more athletic and others give off a sexy vibe. DCC to me is girl next door. They are cute, with a couple of girls that give a little more sexy, but they keep it mostly cute. Comparing nfl cheer teams is like comparing apples and oranges to me. 

[Dnst1973]

4 hours ago, go4luca said:

Thank you for summarizing so well.  I also don't hate Vic and have been trying to give her a chance.  But I haven't seen anything thus far to improve my take on her.   Both you & @DAthene nailed the reason why:  Hypocrisy. 

I understand Kelli will always have her favorites.  But I can't stand when it's so blatantly thrown in our face without one ounce of subtlety.

I am disgusted with the hypocrisy. It’s not VK’s fault that Kelli is biased. 

I don’t hate VK. I’m annoyed at the entitlement, passive aggressive behavior, the toxicity etc...I’m worried about how the other cheerleaders are being treated. What is this doing to the other girls? 

I hope she grows up and learns to be a better team mate. But with Kelli coddling her I doubt that will happen. 

[Pinknblue]

21 minutes ago, Dnst1973 said:

I am disgusted with the hypocrisy. It’s not VK’s fault that Kelli is biased. 

I don’t hate VK. I’m annoyed at the entitlement, passive aggressive behavior, the toxicity etc...I’m worried about how the other cheerleaders are being treated. What is this doing to the other girls? 

I hope she grows up and learns to be a better team mate. But with Kelli coddling her I doubt that will happen. 

Yes. How does the girl have a chance to be a better person and grow up when the only adults surrounding her are treating her like she is so supposedly perfect, and reward her poor behaviour?

girl literally does not have a chance in hell of correcting her flaws, and no real world exposure to figure it out.

these boards might be the first dose of any kind of real feedback she’s ever had... how scary is that.

[Coffeefrog19]

52 minutes ago, Spunkyyy said:

The powers that be

Of course!  

[ClosetDCCFan]

Did anyone ever spill who the two points are?  

[Texas123]

Did anybody get cut recently?

[parrotfeathers]

1 hour ago, Coffeefrog19 said:

What was Amy's mistake? 

She made a move with her arms no one else did.

[tteek74]

I thought the Eagles cheerleaders looked fine and pretty. Their figures were great as far as I good see.

I don’t know who the final 3 cuts would be. I wish they’d do it and not drag these poor girls along and then cut them the night before the first game. 

I was surprised, like y’all, at how different Lily looks. I know when I lose too much weight (not a problem now that I’m old), I get the lines on my face and look older. I’m afraid she will be one of them.

I adore Kat, I like Kelcey and Julia. I thought Kristin was pretty and sweet and I am so worried they’ll drag her to the end like poor Brennan. I hope not!  

I worry about Meredith. I don’t know her, I’ve never met her, and I’m sure she’s lovely. I don’t know if it’s maybe her figure being that boxy kind that Kelli frets about. (I don’t see it at all.) I’m worried she or Kristin will get cut the last night and that’s sad. I like them.

Surprisingly, the person I’m not a fan of is Amanda. She’s so disingenuous. She does look like Karen from Mean Girls to me.

so all that rambling for me to say that I think Lily, Meredith, and Kristin will be the last cuts. Sadly, I like them all and I wish they’d just make the team 39. It’s been 39 before.

[Tuxcat]

On 8/5/2019 at 2:50 PM, Christineelgene said:

I did the same after I read your post.  It looks like most have red, blue, and yellow.  Brennan has no red, but has blue and yellow.  I also noticed that Kat only had one dot.  The other candidates I can’t really tell,  

There are two vets in group 4 that only have 2 dots instead of 3. One is missing a red dot (Brennan(  and one is missing a blue dot. 

 Kat has only one dot. Not sure who the "hard no"s are on the table.

[TinyHands]

22 minutes ago, Tuxcat said:

There are two vets in group 4 that only have 2 dots instead of 3. One is missing a red dot (Brennan(  and one is missing a blue dot. 

 Kat has only one dot. Not sure who the "hard no"s are on the table.

Jalynn is missing the blue dot. That puts to rest the whole “Jalynn was left off of Show Group because of some vast conspiracy”. More like “Jalynn was left off of Show Group because not everyone is impressed with her dancing this year”.

Edited August 6, 2019 by TinyHands

[Coffeefrog19]

25 minutes ago, parrotfeathers said:

She made a move with her arms no one else did.

Thank you

[Jezlyn]

26 minutes ago, Tuxcat said:

There are two vets in group 4 that only have 2 dots instead of 3. One is missing a red dot (Brennan(  and one is missing a blue dot. 

 Kat has only one dot. Not sure who the "hard no"s are on the table.

One of the ones on the table looks like shania? The girl for LSU. And the blonde at the front of the table has a double barrelled surname so that should narrow then down 

[hannahbanana]

29 minutes ago, TinyHands said:

Jalynn is missing the blue dot. That puts to rest the whole “Jalynn was left off of Show Group because of some vast conspiracy”. More like “Jalynn was left off of Show Group because not everyone is impressed with her dancing this year”.

Or she doesn't have a blue dot because someone is upset with her. Still could have nothing to do with her dancing or why she was left off show group (if I remember correctly, VK only had one or two dots the whole season and yet made it to the end of the camp while those with more were cut ealier -- in other words, how many dots a person does or doesn't have doesn't mean a whole lot -- Kelli and Kelli alone makes the final decision).

[hannahbanana]

3 minutes ago, DCCfan2443 said:

Okay I'm confused.  There's three girl's left to be cut,  why is there speculation about Amy? And who is everyone's picks of the final three to be cut?

There isn't speculation about Amy about being cut. The talk about her is that she messed up at the Queen concert. There was some talk as to whether or not that would affect her being chosen point (or as we now know, one of this year's points).

[DanceProf]

Can someone give a run down on the "dot system?"  I vaguely remember them doing this, but not sure what all the dots mean and if certain colors mean certain things.  

[KaterynParr]

Do we think the vets and rookies are ranked within their groups? Look at Groups 1 and 2 ... in Group 1, some rookie pics are interspersed with the vets, while in Group 2, all the vet pics come before the rookie pics.

[DAthene]

10 minutes ago, DanceProf said:

Can someone give a run down on the "dot system?"  I vaguely remember them doing this, but not sure what all the dots mean and if certain colors mean certain things.  

From what I recall last year, judges, guest choreographers, and group leaders were given different color dots. Each person I think had up to 36 dots.  They selected a team of their preference by putting dots on the girls’ photos. Group leaders were given fewer...they picked the top girls in the group  

someone please correct me if I’m wrong  

[Donna S]

21 hours ago, TUOwl84 said:

This past weekend my husband and I spent our first wedding anniversary in Washington DC. One of the museums we went to was the Smithsonian Museum of American History and the DCC were NOT displayed like Kelli bragged about! Shocker!!! I was so disappointed!! 

The museum changes out and rotates the exhibits so people see different things when they go.

[Bellisima08]

2 hours ago, patti0855 said:

Just watched the first episode, that new song is horrendous! Please do away with it . . . NOW!

I totally agree! It sounds so choppy and like it was just thrown together. I mean I've been wanting them to update the intro for years, but by update I meant "feature more recent cheerleaders." I would have been fine with them keeping the old music and showing different dance moves or maybe a montage of the girls played over the music.

[TB12]

3 hours ago, Lolfordays said:

I am watching the episode now and I will never ever get the “VK is such a knockout” thing. The mouth. I have said this before, but maybe it is a “Dallas” pretty thing — the just “too much” of everything. I don’t get it.

This... I don’t see it either I’m thinking it’s definitely a Dallas thing, bigger is better she’s sooooooo generic, that hair needs a style & I cant with her teeth & believe me I’m hardly perfect but I’m also not an entitled spoiled brat who is trying to be Uber glamorous... 

[Christineelgene]

1 hour ago, Tuxcat said:

There are two vets in group 4 that only have 2 dots instead of 3. One is missing a red dot (Brennan(  and one is missing a blue dot. 

 Kat has only one dot. Not sure who the "hard no"s are on the table.

From looking at the team photos from last year, I think that is TAylor missing the blue dot.  I tried to figure out the hard no’s, but Since we don’t know when this clip was taken, we don’t know who has already been cut up to this point.

[BBK]

1 hour ago, Jesiklyn said:

One of the ones on the table looks like shania? The girl for LSU. And the blonde at the front of the table has a double barrelled surname so that should narrow then down 

Looking at the board on the wall, 3 TCC’s do not have dots on their fotos...Shaina, a blonde in Group 2/3 & a brunette in Group 4. 

Looks like my girl, Kristen (2nd foto from bottom) has a red & yellow sticker (Thank Heavens).

If Kristen gets cut because of Charm’s ‘Hard No!’ comment...I’ll...I’ll...I’ll think of something to do to Charm!!! Maybe thumb down all her videos...that should show her, right?

Also, does anyone feel that another Vet will get cut?

I’m thinking Kelli is the yellow sticker, since it’s the first & top color 😉 & Judi is red...

Edited August 7, 2019 by BBK

[Piscesmama4]

6 minutes ago, Christineelgene said:

From looking at the team photos from last year, I think that is TAylor missing the blue dot.  I tried to figure out the hard no’s, but Since we don’t know when this clip was taken, we don’t know who has already been cut up to this point.

Can anyone tell who the TCCs are with no stickers? I see two on the right, a blonde in group 2 and a brunette in group 4 

[allirish47]

I don't recall seeing another aspect of VI's lack of control mentioned anywhere: has Kelli considered that her 'beautiful storm' & 'wild horse' could, because of her wild flailing, inability to stay in her space, etc. easily hurt another cheerleader? We all know how one person's messup in the kickline can seriously injure the cheerleaders on either side of her. Surely being knocked down, kicked, etc. could too.

Could there ever be legal implications for the DCC, & Kelli personally, for allowing someone who has been documented as often being out-of-control to be on the squad & therefore a potential harm to the others?

Edited August 7, 2019 by allirish47

[JustRosie]

Question...does anyone know whether any of the new TCCs were actually random girls that showed up to auditions and made it into training camp, or whether most of them were scouted/recruited during the year and invited to audition?

[DCCFanInKy]

21 minutes ago, Namaste said:

Question...does anyone know whether any of the new TCCs were actually random girls that showed up to auditions and made it into training camp, or whether most of them were scouted/recruited during the year and invited to audition?

That would be a @ShellyB question if she knows.

[scorpio1031]

1 hour ago, allirish47 said:

I don't recall seeing another aspect of VI's lack of control mentioned anywhere: has Kelli considered that her 'beautiful storm' & 'wild horse' could, because of her wild flailing, inability to stay in her space, etc. easily hurt another cheerleader?

We've heard that VK is a studio hopper - once someone tries to critique her, off she goes.  Has that included what happens when she doesn't stay in her space?  What I don't understand is why it is so hard to for her to understand that not only could she injure someone else, but she herself could get injured.  She could have very easily slid on that pom, twisted her knee or her ankle, and that would have been it for this year.

Edited August 7, 2019 by scorpio1031

[NMDD43]

On 8/5/2019 at 7:18 PM, LynneH said:

On 8/5/2019 at 11:16 AM, M1977G said:

I froze the first episode at 1:33, when they still are doing the "This season on DCC: Making the Team" preview stuff. It has Kelli and Judy talking with Charm. Charm points to a row of pictures in between her and Kelli and says those are the "hard nos" for her. Can anyone with a bigger screen or better eyes than I have tell who's in that row of "no"? Also, in the background is the board with all the vet and rookie photos. You can see that they've started their dot system, and while you can't see everyone, I can tell that there's at least one vet who doesn't have two dots and instead only has one dot. Can anyone tell me if that's Brennan? Based on the pose, it looks kind of like last year's cameo photo of her. Thanks in advance for any detective insights provided!

There are actually 3 dots given on those pics.  The bottom is a purple/blue dot, then the Red dot and then a yellow dot above it.  

Looks like Brennan to me as well. She didn't get a red dot. 

Can't tell who the 5 hard no's are on the table. One kind of looks like Kristin

[TinyHands]

2 hours ago, hannahbanana said:

Or she doesn't have a blue dot because someone is upset with her. Still could have nothing to do with her dancing or why she was left off show group (if I remember correctly, VK only had one or two dots the whole season and yet made it to the end of the camp while those with more were cut ealier -- in other words, how many dots a person does or doesn't have doesn't mean a whole lot -- Kelli and Kelli alone makes the final decision).

We’ll have to see who didn’t give her a dot! It could be that a visiting choreographer didn’t give her a dot.

[Lolfordays]

8 hours ago, TB12 said:

The Patriots Cheerleaders performed with the New Kids on the Block, for what that's worth. Queen just played here the other night, I don't think they performed with them...

The Eagles cheerleaders did NKOTB in philly too

[Jennv]

6 minutes ago, NMDD43 said:

Looks like Brennan to me as well. She didn't get a red dot. 

Can't tell who the 5 hard no's are on the table. One kind of looks like Kristin

I think the one second to the bottom of the pic is Kristin 

[Reveala]

1 hour ago, Namaste said:

Question...does anyone know whether any of the new TCCs were actually random girls that showed up to auditions and made it into training camp, or whether most of them were scouted/recruited during the year and invited to audition?

I am GUESSING that producers know something about new candidates before the selection process begins, because they have to mic them early during the process, capture them "at home," and secure family photos. They can't shoot random candidates because they take a ton of footage that has to be quickly edited. I suspect their info comes from scouting (including attendees at Kitty's classes), resumes sent in, and recs from former DCC. 

[Reveala]

10 hours ago, kalibean said:

Minimum wage in Texas is $7.25, so definitely more. Still low for a skilled worker, which I would consider these gals to be. That’s the average, tho...when I originally calculated, I took the rookie appearance fee, game day flat rate then I might have assumed $10 an hour for everything else? 

When I hit my limit at work today, I’ll track down my old math post 🙂 

As for rent, Dallas is still one of the most affordable big cities, and rent in a decent apartment is doable with a roommate and a secondary source of income like teaching dance, etc like many of these ladies have. Maybe not a fancy place right at The Star or at The Shops at Legacy, but lots nearby in Addison, Plano, etc. 

Do you know who else off the field is part-time? NFL referees! They have full time jobs like lawyers and stockbrokers, and guess how much they make dor the season? An average $100k. Everyone connected to this sport gets PAID, except these iconic ladies. The Rockettes who also perform seasonally, make about $35k for 5 months pay, but their health benefits cover them year-round. Know why? They're unionized--and luckily living in labor-friendly NYC. 

[phylogeny]

1 hour ago, allirish47 said:

I don't recall seeing another aspect of VI's lack of control mentioned anywhere: has Kelli considered that her 'beautiful storm' & 'wild horse' could, because of her wild flailing, inability to stay in her space, etc. easily hurt another cheerleader? We all know how one person's messup in the kickline can seriously injure the cheerleaders on either side of her. Surely being knocked down, kicked, etc. could too.

Could there ever be legal implications for the DCC, & Kelli personally, for allowing someone who has been documented as often being out-of-control to be on the squad & therefore a potential harm to the others?

Don't forget "a bull in china" 😁

[whosadcc]

3 hours ago, Tuxcat said:

There are two vets in group 4 that only have 2 dots instead of 3. One is missing a red dot (Brennan(  and one is missing a blue dot. 

 Kat has only one dot. Not sure who the "hard no"s are on the table.

You can tell that this picture was taken after Ashley H. and Gina Maria were cut. 

The Group 2 rookies, I think, from left to right are Julia, Chandi, Lisa and Lauren?? (Lauren has already been cut and doesn't look like she has any stickers). 

The Group 3 rookies, that you can see in this pic, are Shiana (no stickers) and Taylor P.  You cannot see Kristen's picture on the screen, but I think her picture is one of them on the table.  It's already been confirmed that Kristen is in Group 3 during this time frame.

The Group 4 rookies from left to right, I think are Alexandria, Lilly, Meredith and Madeline S. (It look's like Meredith may not have any stickers).

[DCCFanInKy]

1 minute ago, whosadcc said:

You can tell that this picture was taken after Ashley H. and Gina Maria were cut. 

The Group 2 rookies, I think, from left to right are Julia, Chandi, Lisa and Lauren?? (Lauren has already been cut and doesn't look like she has any stickers). 

The Group 3 rookies, that you can see in this pic, are Shiana (no stickers) and Taylor P.  You cannot see Kristen's picture on the screen, but I think her picture is one of them on the table.  It's already been confirmed that Kristen is in Group 3 during this time frame.

The Group 4 rookies from left to right, I think are Alexandria, Lilly, Meredith and Madeline S. (It look's like Meredith may not have any stickers).

Isn't Madeline S out as well? (Might need to clean my glasses again)

[whosadcc]

1 minute ago, DCCFanInKy said:

Isn't Madeline S out as well? (Might need to clean my glasses again)

Alexandria and Madeline S both have been cut since this pic, but they at least a have sticker. Lauren does not.

[DCCFanInKy]

1 minute ago, whosadcc said:

Alexandria and Madeline S both have been cut since this pic, but they at least a have sticker. Lauren does not.

Ohhhh OK I thought I was losing my mind 🙄

[Squeek]

14 hours ago, Kmbaker said:

Hello, first post so maybe I missed this already, is the final team decided yet?  And where was Charlotte?  Thanks!

No it hasn't and Charlotte was in Cannes.  Her daughter Haley was at auditions.

[DCCFanInKy]

2 minutes ago, Squeek said:

No it hasn't and Charlotte was in Cannes.  Her daughter Haley was at auditions.

How many other Jones kids/grandkids work in the organization besides Charlotte? (You can PM me to keep the board on topic if you want)

[AerialDancer]

2 hours ago, Donna S said:

The museum changes out and rotates the exhibits so people see different things when they go.

Exactly. And being “in the smithsonian” doesn’t necessarily mean on display, it just means it’s in the collection. 

[Squeek]

7 minutes ago, DCCFanInKy said:

How many other Jones kids/grandkids work in the organization besides Charlotte? (You can PM me to keep the board on topic if you want)

John Stephen Jones is the current Executive Vice President, CEO, and Director of Player Personnel for the Dallas Cowboys

Jerral Wayne Jones Jr. is the Chief Sales and Marketing Officer and Executive Vice President of the Dallas Cowboys. Executive Vice President and Chief Sales and Marketing Officer, Jerry Jones, Jr. is a key member of the Dallas Cowboys front office, overseeing the club's entire sales and marketing efforts.

Charlotte Jones-Anderson is the Dallas Cowboys' Executive Vice President and Chief Brand Officer.

Haley Anderson - Special Project Officer for the Cowboys

The others, most of the boys are still in college and playing football, and one of the girls is an actress. 

[lkxydhfinl ghsdv]

2 hours ago, BBK said:

Looking at the board on the wall, 3 TCC’s do not have dots on their fotos...Shaina, a blonde in Group 2/3 & a brunette in Group 4. 

Looks like my girl, Kristen (2nd foto from bottom) has a red & yellow sticker (Thank Heavens).

If Kristen gets cut because of Charm’s ‘Hard No!’ comment...I’ll...I’ll...I’ll think of something to do to Charm!!! Maybe thumb down all her videos...that should show her, right?

Also, does anyone feel that another Vet will get cut?

I’m thinking Kelli is the yellow sticker, since it’s the first & top color 😉 & Judi is red...

Red is Travis Wall, yellow is Denise Dicharry and I don't know who purple is...possibly Charm's.