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Not for nothing, but the show is also pretty much cancellation-proof at this point, so maybe they don't even care about ratings as much? So perhaps this might be the first season in - what, a decade? - to not have a DE. 

Seems unlikely, but man, they still need to do SOMEthing about the fact that they have an extra week hanging out there and apparently no jury buyback. 

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15 minutes ago, Brian Cronin said:

Not for nothing, but the show is also pretty much cancellation-proof at this point, so maybe they don't even care about ratings as much? So perhaps this might be the first season in - what, a decade? - to not have a DE. 

Seems unlikely, but man, they still need to do SOMEthing about the fact that they have an extra week hanging out there and apparently no jury buyback. 

I need a season of all recruits who have never seen the game. And go back to basics, ie no twists.

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As an aside, while this has certainly not been a great season by any stretch of the imagination, I think it's getting a bit of a raw deal in being compared to last season, which was such a fan favorite (except for @peachmangosteen, of course). I was looking at past seasons, and BB19 hit 411 pages and BB18 (which I know a lot of people checked out on with a few weeks to go, only to be pleasantly surprised at Nicole somehow beating Paul) was at just 306. 

So yes, compared to BB20, this season is not catching our interest as much, but it's not some shockingly low level of interest, either. 

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3 minutes ago, Brian Cronin said:

As an aside, while this has certainly not been a great season by any stretch of the imagination, I think it's getting a bit of a raw deal in being compared to last season, which was such a fan favorite (except for @peachmangosteen, of course). I was looking at past seasons, and BB19 hit 411 pages and BB18 (which I know a lot of people checked out on with a few weeks to go, only to be pleasantly surprised at Nicole somehow beating Paul) was at just 306. 

So yes, compared to BB20, this season is not catching our interest as much, but it's not some shockingly low level of interest, either. 

I think a lot of people were willing to bounce from this season early, because it was awful. But ever since Jack left, things seem to be improving week to week. 

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3 minutes ago, phlebas said:

I think a lot of people were willing to bounce from this season early, because it was awful. But ever since Jack left, things seem to be improving week to week. 

It really HAS gotten a lot more interesting since then, right?

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18 minutes ago, Brian Cronin said:

It really HAS gotten a lot more interesting since then, right?

Yep! This week has been fun too, even though Nick played his prankster thing badly. And the minute Jackson isn't protected, he'll be gone also.

I am thrilled we don't have a feed in the jury house.  I can't imagine how awful watching Jack, Kat, Sis, and (possibly) Nick would be.

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2 hours ago, peachmangosteen said:

But also, how lame is it to have a Prank Week and then not nullify the eviction. Like that's the ultimate prank.

I kinda look at it from the opposite point of view; nullifying the eviction would be such an obvious move it wouldn’t even qualify as a surprise, much less a prank.

So, what would qualify as a REAL prank?  I dunno - but something like this week’s Block survivor automatically becoming the next HoH wouldn’t be bad, prank-wise.

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40 minutes ago, phlebas said:

I think a lot of people were willing to bounce from this season early, because it was awful. But ever since Jack left, things seem to be improving week to week. 

I am barely watching. I listen to Rob Has a Podcast and follow here. I watch Thursday to see the eviction. This has been my worst season ever and I despised Paul .

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1 hour ago, Brian Cronin said:

Not for nothing, but the show is also pretty much cancellation-proof at this point, so maybe they don't even care about ratings as much? So perhaps this might be the first season in - what, a decade? - to not have a DE. 

Seems unlikely, but man, they still need to do SOMEthing about the fact that they have an extra week hanging out there and apparently no jury buyback. 

I was just going to ask.... how do all the evictions shake out if there's no DE and no jury buy back? Or if there is a DE...   ---- if they do a reset this week, do they also need to do a DE at some point?  If there is no reset... do they still need a DE? 

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I also found it interesting... at least in my opinion... that these last 2 seasons there have not been a clear divide down the house. Everyone at least gives the appearance that they enjoy each other and they all hang out together.  Now the only difference from this year and last year is that the "cool kids" were complete assholes behind the backs of everyone else early in the game - I think that has calmed down quite a bit. Last year everyone was just pretty nice overall. 

I can't recall any other seasons (since I've been watching live feeds) that they all have gotten along so well.  Or maybe I'm just brainwashed from Paul's 2nd season where he deliberately pitted sides against each other. 

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17 minutes ago, Dmarie019 said:

I was just going to ask.... how do all the evictions shake out if there's no DE and no jury buy back? Or if there is a DE...   ---- if they do a reset this week, do they also need to do a DE at some point?  If there is no reset... do they still need a DE? 

If there's no DE, they're fine on time.

If there IS a DE, then they are short a week, so they need to add a week somehow, either through a buyback, a reset or a rewind. This could certainly be the week for a rewind, since the HoH competition was so simple. In fact, it would be amusing for the prank to be a rewind and then have them go back and do the bird-themed HoH that they thought that they were studying for in the first place!

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17 minutes ago, Brian Cronin said:

If there's no DE, they're fine on time.

If there IS a DE, then they are short a week, so they need to add a week somehow, either through a buyback, a reset or a rewind. This could certainly be the week for a rewind, since the HoH competition was so simple. In fact, it would be amusing for the prank to be a rewind and then have them go back and do the bird-themed HoH that they thought that they were studying for in the first place!

That WOULD be funny.

The only reason why I don't think there's any rewind or fake eviction or whatever, at least this week, is because I highly doubt the producers are dumb enough to get America to vote on something really important, only to "prank" the viewers at the end of the week. I don't think that would sit too well with the audience. Even if Nick wasn't leaving and Christie was....actually, especially if Christie was evicted and then suddenly wasn't, with Christie not being a popular houseguest amongst people (and we know for sure that casuals hate Christie), that would be even more infuriating if there was no eviction.

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6 minutes ago, Lady Calypso said:

That WOULD be funny.

The only reason why I don't think there's any rewind or fake eviction or whatever, at least this week, is because I highly doubt the producers are dumb enough to get America to vote on something really important, only to "prank" the viewers at the end of the week. I don't think that would sit too well with the audience. Even if Nick wasn't leaving and Christie was....actually, especially if Christie was evicted and then suddenly wasn't, with Christie not being a popular houseguest amongst people (and we know for sure that casuals hate Christie), that would be even more infuriating if there was no eviction.

They had America do America's Field Trip which also went nowhere, right?  I don't think they care all that much about their twists most seasons beyond "we need to kill time." 

It's been quite a while since I think they've actively tried to interfere to specifically help a particular HG (outside of the entire setup of BB19 being designed to help Paul), so I think in general they've been taking a "whatever happens, happens" approach to the seasons and thus just really need something to give them an extra week. 

But, of course, they could just as easily do a rewind/reset NEXT week. It's just that this being a special week already just seems like they make it easy for them, and I think they very much like easy. 🙂

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18 hours ago, Brian Cronin said:

It's just not not possible, she doesn't even get why it would be a good idea for her for Christie to go. She thinks Christie has her back somehow. She's beyond moronic. 

Jess doesn’t even really get that Christie and her are not really allies.  Right now I’m even liking Jess less than Christie and Jackson.

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Just now, Booklady1017 said:

Jess doesn’t even really get that Christie and her are not really allies.  Right now I’m even liking Jess less than Christie and Jackson.

"Christie has formed roughly 800 alliances and none of them have had them in me."

"Christie is my strongest ally in the house."

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU, JESS?!

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38 minutes ago, Brian Cronin said:

If there's no DE, they're fine on time.

I wouldn’t be surprised if there isn’t a DE this season.  The usual line on DEs is “of course they’ll have a DE - it’s one of the most popular episodes of the season” - but last season put that to lie, as its DE episode (Ep35] had lower viewership than either the immediately preceding or succeeding episodes.  This could be Production testing the waters to see what (if any) reaction is generated by the DE omission.

Or... maybe part of Prank Week could be starting off the HGs thinking Thursday is a DE, then pulling the “gotcha” rug out from under them...? 

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1 hour ago, Nashville said:

I kinda look at it from the opposite point of view; nullifying the eviction would be such an obvious move it wouldn’t even qualify as a surprise, much less a prank.

So, what would qualify as a REAL prank?  I dunno - but something like this week’s Block survivor automatically becoming the next HoH wouldn’t be bad, prank-wise.

I don’t remember who said it first, but I’d love if the so called evicted player became the new HOH.

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"Christie has formed roughly 800 alliances and none of them have had them in me."

"Christie is my strongest ally in the house."

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU, JESS?!

No wonder nobody wants to work with her.

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23 minutes ago, Brian Cronin said:

They had America do America's Field Trip which also went nowhere, right?  I don't think they care all that much about their twists most seasons beyond "we need to kill time." 

Well, in that case, they didn't have America's Field Trip while knowing that it would become useless at the end of the week. They can't predict when the game screws up the twists, or the houseguests. But, in this case, with America's Prankster, if it's a fake eviction, they'd KNOW it would be a failed twist. The most it would do is cause mistrust within the house, and they could have easily done that without AP in the first place. 

So, there's a difference between a twist failing due to unforeseen events, and a twist failing because of another twist. Twistception is not fun when it pulls the wool over everyone's eyes.

Buuuuut, with that being said....I wouldn't be surprised if they still went that route.

Now, the REAL twist would be no DE this season. 

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7 minutes ago, Nashville said:

I wouldn’t be surprised if there isn’t a DE this season.  The usual line on DEs is “of course they’ll have a DE - it’s one of the most popular episodes of the season” - but last season put that to lie, as its DE episode (Ep35] had lower viewership than either the immediately preceding or succeeding episodes.  This could be Production testing the waters to see what (if any) reaction is generated by the DE omission.

Or... maybe part of Prank Week could be starting off the HGs thinking Thursday is a DE, then pulling the “gotcha” rug out from under them...? 

The viewership didn't go up, but the rating DID go up, which I think actually speaks MORE to the interest in the DE (plus, the episode the next week had a football game as a lead-in, which led to an artificial bump in the ratings). That said, yeah, the ratings were fairly consistent all season and there were plenty of episodes earlier in the season that did as well as the DE episode, so I agree that the DE has possibly lost its luster.  

3 minutes ago, Lady Calypso said:

Well, in that case, they didn't have America's Field Trip while knowing that it would become useless at the end of the week. They can't predict when the game screws up the twists, or the houseguests. But, in this case, with America's Prankster, if it's a fake eviction, they'd KNOW it would be a failed twist. The most it would do is cause mistrust within the house, and they could have easily done that without AP in the first place. 

So, there's a difference between a twist failing due to unforeseen events, and a twist failing because of another twist. Twistception is not fun when it pulls the wool over everyone's eyes.

Buuuuut, with that being said....I wouldn't be surprised if they still went that route.

Now, the REAL twist would be no DE this season. 

I guess what I'm saying is that I don't think they care if the twists impact the game or not. They just want to fill time. So yes, this would be an intentional failed twist as opposed to the traditional failed twist, but I think they view each as basically the same - just as time killers. 

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Plus, looking at BB19, the DE episode definitely did NOT do better, so yeah, I think the DE's time might have passed. Maybe take a season off from it and then make it a bigger deal for next season and hopefully make it "special" again. 

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1 hour ago, Brian Cronin said:

As an aside, while this has certainly not been a great season by any stretch of the imagination, I think it's getting a bit of a raw deal in being compared to last season, which was such a fan favorite (except for @peachmangosteen, of course).

I was with Peach on that one. I'll never understand the love for last season. Level 6 was boring and watching FOUTTE shoot themselves in the dick every week was tiring. It wasn't even a good cast, a lot interesting personalities went out pre-jury (Winston, Kaitlyn), and I could not fucking stand JC or Blandgela.

This season has had way more back and forth.

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14 minutes ago, Booklady1017 said:

I don’t remember who said it first, but I’d love if the so called evicted player became the new HOH.

I wouldn’t care much for the evicted player becoming the next HoH; that’s a complete reversal of the intent of the eviction vote, not a prank or twist on it.  

But making the surviving player the next week’s HoH...?  Kinda has a “be careful what you wish for” flavor, and I’d be curious to see how it played out.

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1 hour ago, Lady Calypso said:

That WOULD be funny.

The only reason why I don't think there's any rewind or fake eviction or whatever, at least this week, is because I highly doubt the producers are dumb enough to get America to vote on something really important, only to "prank" the viewers at the end of the week. I don't think that would sit too well with the audience. Even if Nick wasn't leaving and Christie was....actually, especially if Christie was evicted and then suddenly wasn't, with Christie not being a popular houseguest amongst people (and we know for sure that casuals hate Christie), that would be even more infuriating if there was no eviction.

I FOR SURE believe that if Nicole or Cliff (or maybe even Tommy) were expected to be evicted this week then they would do a reset.  But they know better with it being Christie and Nick. 

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3 hours ago, Lamima said:

Not really. After Nick then the 2 couples will pick off Cliff and his 2 angels. It will be 4 to 3. They needed to keep Nick. Though if Christie went this week, Tommy would team up with Jackson and Holly... and Nick would kiss up to them. I suspect Jess going to jury after Nick. Then maybe Cliff and then they'll try to shoot at each other (the 2 pairs). I guess Nicole is the goat. Unless Cliff, Jess or Nicole can win HoH. Not likely but they NEED to. And they need to put JAckson and Chrisite up so if one wins veto their partner will go up. If Chris or Tom win HoH they need to put up Son and Holly but they won't they'd probably put up Son and Jess...then bye bye Jess. Same for if Son wins HoH again...he'd need to put up Chris and Tom but won't. That's why I think Jess is next to go after Nick.

We agree on 2 things.

All scenarios possible ......because HGs need to win their own comps which guides the evictions.  

This is the unknown....order of HG eviction.

The better choice to shift the power is to keep Nick.

For voting purposes. .....Tommy can very well go with Nick as they have grown close, too. Tommy enjoys flirting and cuddling with Nick. 

I will wait again until Thursday.

Because, at this rate...Christie & Tommy continue to have a top chance for the Win!

Yall gave Jackson a jerk complex.....and, now he won’t act up.

Pre-producer-intervention Jackson would have evicted Christie last week. 

Producers have him loaded on Valium & Holly has him P-whipped.

I need Jackson raising hell again.  To evict Christie and keep himself a target.

I guess there is some victory with keeping Christie in panic. She knows America does not see this Love & Light Christie.......!

She is shedding tears by the buckets! 😭 

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Wait, so to make himself more popular with America, he deliberately stuffed himself with food and gained weight? Was this a "Don't hate me because I'm beautiful. Look, now I'm quite chubby!" kind of situation?

Well there's precedent for a much-hated houseguest to become a fan favorite: Rachel. And the circumstances are similar, because Jackson only became more popular when he decided to go after Christie, who the audience apparently hates more than him. It was sort of the same situation with Rachel and Danielle. 

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Not for nothing, but the show is also pretty much cancellation-proof at this point, so maybe they don't even care about ratings as much?

It was the highest rated program on TV last night after football, so I'm assuming CBS is fine with the ratings.

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I for one have never liked the DE episodes.

Me neither. I can't think of a single instance where the second person evicted was someone I wanted to see go. It's almost always someone I'm more or less rooting for. I'm positive a DE would see the end of Jess, Nicole or Cliff. 

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Does anyone know who is that woman tattoo on Nick's arm?  She looks like Katheryn Winnick, the woman that plays Lagertha Lothbrok from Vikings.  

Back to the show...I hope that Jackson doesn't use the veto on Christie and she is sent packing.  She's overstayed her welcome.   

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1 minute ago, iMonrey said:

Me neither. I can't think of a single instance where the second person evicted was someone I wanted to see go. It's almost always someone I'm more or less rooting for. I'm positive a DE would see the end of Jess, Nicole or Cliff. 

Yeah, I'm trying to think about a Double Eviction evictee was someone who I wanted.

At the time, no....but now....Elena is probably the closest. Judd's eviction in BB15 was certainly the most unexpected.

But yeah, DEs are never actually as good as they say.

Oh...oh wait. BB13 Jeff's! That's the ONLY one that went well. CLOWN SHOE.

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52 minutes ago, hoosiermom said:

I for one have never liked the DE episodes.

Same, for the most part.  They always come up when there was something happening in the house, and because we didn't have a normal episode (they needed all the time for the comps) we missed out of watching some of it go down and the DR's that go with it.  That always frustrated me.  I like them in the since that they have to think on their feet and are put on the spot, but again, you miss a lot because it's so fast.

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If I am right on schedule with number of remaining evictions and Finale week, I would create, in effect, a DE this week by throwing out all results since Sis' launch.  The open to the show would be that announcement, followed immediately by an HoH contest, and so forth, until an HG is evicted within the hour.  

You want a prank?  Whoop, there it is!

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22 minutes ago, Callaphera said:

It's modeled after Charlize Theron. 

There's part of me that looks at his tattoos and thinks that the artwork may be well done (from what I can tell, anyway) and then there's the other part that's all "why though". Not that I need to understand them, as they're his tattoos and not mine.

Regardless, they're still better than Jack's idiotic "hello my name is" tattoo. I just... can't with the stupidity of that one.

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Does anyone know who is that woman tattoo on Nick's arm?  She looks like Katheryn Winnick, the woman that plays Lagertha Lothbrok from Vikings. 

The tattoo on his other arm is sort of fascinating too. It appears to be some kind of structure will columns. I wonder what it's supposed to be.

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3 hours ago, retired watcher said:

I need a season of all recruits who have never seen the game. And go back to basics, ie no twists.

I agree with you somewhat. But it really seems to me that nowadays, whether in movies or TV shows, people want and expect there to be a twist. Without them, they're 'boring'. I can't tell you how many reviews of films I've read that basically said, 'The whole movie was great, but I kept expecting a plot twist at the end, didn't get one, so it blows chunks'.

Even Survivor and, to a lesser extent TAR, have their share of twists. So I've just resigned myself to the fact that I have to accept them.

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1 hour ago, Brian Cronin said:

"Christie has formed roughly 800 alliances and none of them have had them in me."

"Christie is my strongest ally in the house."

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU, JESS?!

It is the lesser of the 2 evils.

Christie Vs Nick this week.

Nick has made it vocal Jessica is his target and she has no relationship with him.

With Christie Jess knows what she gets.

Alliances mean nothing this season.

They are not strong this season like in the past.

(But, it still hurts not to get picked) This is more her thing.

Regardless.....this game is about tiny opportunities.

I think Jess is saying...if Christie wins HOH she won’t put me up.

If Jess wins HOH...she won’t put up Christie.

With the evicting....that is basically a house decision.

But, key here is not to end up on the Block.  Jess feels Christie won’t put her up.

This is why she feels Christie is her closest ally.

You gotta take what you can get! 🤣

Is Christie gonna waste her HOH on Jessica......or, is she going to target the ‘Couples?’   Jackson & Holly?  

If Nick goes......Christy becomes close to Tommy again. 

If Nick goes.....Jackson & Cliff get back on her target list as strong players. 

Jess will vote out Jackson. 

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21 hours ago, missyb said:

Cute video someone put together:

I work at a hospital and when we hear a Security Needed in [pick an area] , a guy in my office plays the Benny Hill song LOUD!!

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I, too, have been wondering about Nick's tattoos.  They seem to be very well done, probably expensive, kind of classy (in a way), and somewhat well thought out.  Soooooo............ totally not the Nick you feedsters* have been telling us about all along.

Could it be that Nick is the schizophrenic, multi-personality person that he accused Nicole of being?  Classic projection, for sure....

* And each and every one of you feedsters has my undying gratitude for watching and recapping all this crap for us.  Seriously.  Undying gratitude...

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57 minutes ago, HurricaneVal said:

Could it be that Nick is the schizophrenic, multi-personality person that he accused Nicole of being?  Classic projection, for sure....

I remember him calling her a sociopath - which means lacking a conscience, superficial, manipulative, grandiose, liar - which sounds nothing like Nicole, but does fit a few others.  

But schizophrenic?  nope, that would mean hearing voices, unable to distinguish reality from delusion.  multiple personality?  VERY unlikely. 

there's a lot of narcissism on BB   - but you pretty much HAVE to be somewhat narcissistic to think that people would want to watch your every move on TV. 

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On 8/25/2019 at 2:39 AM, Ellee said:

Does anyone have a clue that Nick was named prankster only to nom Christie?  

I hurt for Nicole as she has taken a beating from some of the HGs and now Zingbot.  The only silver lining is that she will see that she was #1 in some of the rankings.  Hopefully that will help afterwards.  Have to figure out why this bothers me so much.  It’s BB.  I don’t know.  

Poor Jess.  

Holly — Where did ‘old buzzard’ come from?  Have I forgotten something?

It's one thing to call yourself a loser with no friends (though didn't she say it tearfully and not jokingly?) ... it's much harsher coming from someone else. I can joke that I'm fat, but if someone else does, I want to hide in bed for a week.

On 8/25/2019 at 8:53 AM, Brian Cronin said:

That IS what he means, but he's just attempting to say it in an oddly poetic manner.

It was totally his Emmy-award winning performance and Christie RUINED it!!!!! 😂

Also sidenote, I found the CUTEST video of a pig eating noodles, and I wanted to share it with you all, but I can't because even compressed it's still like 4.1 MB ... but it bore the most striking resemblance to Christie -- I can't imagine why?!

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Sounds like Zingbot might have been a little lame compared to the zingy-zings of years past.  With the exception that Nicole's seemed to be just kind of mean.  Nick got zinged for a haircut?  Holly got zinged for her December/May showmance with Snackson, making her an old buzzard cougar? 

I can understand Jess not giving them much to work with--and Nicole too for that matter--but there has been a wealth of material to work from with everything Snackson, Holly, Nick, Christie and Tommy has been giving them.

Man.  Even Zingbot is bored with this crew.

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7 hours ago, Nashville said:

So, what would qualify as a REAL prank?  I dunno - but something like this week’s Block survivor automatically becoming the next HoH wouldn’t be bad, prank-wise.

I would love this if Christie nommed Jackson/Holly but I don't think she really would so it'd end up really sucking lol.

7 hours ago, Dmarie019 said:

I also found it interesting... at least in my opinion... that these last 2 seasons there have not been a clear divide down the house. Everyone at least gives the appearance that they enjoy each other and they all hang out together ... Last year everyone was just pretty nice overall ... I can't recall any other seasons (since I've been watching live feeds) that they all have gotten along so well.  

And that right there is definitely why I hated last season lol. And it's the one thing I hate about this season. I'm in this show for the fights tbh.

7 hours ago, Brian Cronin said:

In fact, it would be amusing for the prank to be a rewind and then have them go back and do the bird-themed HoH that they thought that they were studying for in the first place!

I love this idea.

6 hours ago, Lady Calypso said:

The only reason why I don't think there's any rewind or fake eviction or whatever, at least this week, is because I highly doubt the producers are dumb enough to get America to vote on something really important, only to "prank" the viewers at the end of the week. I don't think that would sit too well with the audience. 

I don't think they really give a shit about what will sit well with the audience lol.

5 hours ago, iMonrey said:

I can't think of a single instance where the second person evicted was someone I wanted to see go. 

Honestly after the DE that got Jeff evicted in BB13 they should probably just retire DEs. Nothing will ever top that. It's easily in the top 5 eps of all time.

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12 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

And that right there is definitely why I hated last season lol. And it's the one thing I hate about this season. I'm in this show for the fights tbh.

I love your honesty! 😁😁😁

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2 hours ago, HurricaneVal said:

Sounds like Zingbot might have been a little lame compared to the zingy-zings of years past.  With the exception that Nicole's seemed to be just kind of mean.  Nick got zinged for a haircut?  Holly got zinged for her December/May showmance with Snackson, making her an old buzzard cougar? 

I can understand Jess not giving them much to work with--and Nicole too for that matter--but there has been a wealth of material to work from with everything Snackson, Holly, Nick, Christie and Tommy has been giving them.

Man.  Even Zingbot is bored with this crew.

I read on Twitter that they called Holly into the DR to clarify the buzzard remark. They said they only meant to imply old, and not getting Kat’s leftovers like Nick was implying. Also seen on twitter, she seemed really upset that night. In the clip I saw she was talking about her conservative parents & being worried what they thought, while she was wearing a thong 🙄.  Christie said tell them you played a good game. Holly said they only care about her good character. Christie said tell them it’s all editing and then the clip cut to her & Jackson mattress dancing in the feeds. 🤫

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3 minutes ago, Tdoc72 said:

I read on Twitter that they called Holly into the DR to clarify the buzzard remark. They said they only meant to imply old, and not getting Kat’s leftovers like Nick was implying. Also seen on twitter, she seemed really upset that night. In the clip I saw she was talking about her conservative parents & being worried what they thought, while she was wearing a thong 🙄.  Christie said tell them you played a good game. Holly said they only care about her good character. Christie said tell them it’s all editing and then the clip cut to her & Jackson mattress dancing in the feeds. 🤫

She cares about her good character? Then she shouldn’t be banging some dude (who is a horrible human being) on live tv. Ugh dumbass. 

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