Unpopular Opinions

[SunnyBeBe]

19 minutes ago, Blondie said:

Dorit's little boy is cute now but I think he looks just like his daddy.  Bless his heart

Yes. I look at Dorit and then at P.K..........She must have a good soul, right?  I mean.......she really seems to adore the man.  I admire people who just look at their lover's personality.  

[Misslindsey]

My UO is that I do not care that LVP is basically done with the show. I have not missed her in the episodes that she was not in. I think if she refuses to film with any of the cast she should be done. I think, at this point, Denise and Camille would still film with her. I think some of the other ladies would welcome her back into the fold and sweep everything under the rug. There have be gang ups on some of the other franchises and they still showed up to film. Then again maybe they needed the money more. 

Another UO is that I am fine with this cast. I may not like all of them, but I think they all do their part to bring it. 

[TenaciousWarrior]

12 hours ago, Misslindsey said:

My UO is that I do not care that LVP is basically done with the show. I have not missed her in the episodes that she was not in. I think if she refuses to film with any of the cast she should be done. I think, at this point, Denise and Camille would still film with her. I think some of the other ladies would welcome her back into the fold and sweep everything under the rug. There have be gang ups on some of the other franchises and they still showed up to film. Then again maybe they needed the money more. 

Another UO is that I am fine with this cast. I may not like all of them, but I think they all do their part to bring it. 

Same. Now that it’s confirmed that she’s leaving, I’m actually excited for the future of the show. Her passive aggressiveness wore me out. 

[suomi]

It sounds like the decision to move on is a done deal but I think Lisa VDP should stay on the show and be filmed only with the 2-3 people she can stand/who can stand her.

Then, those 2-3 people could be filmed while they repeat or exaggerate their conversations with Lisa to the rest of the cast. Then, those 2-3 could go back to Lisa and repeat/exaggerate what the others  said. Lather, rinse, repeat. 

You know, business as usual, pretty much. 

[MavisL]

12 hours ago, suomi said:

It sounds like the decision to move on is a done deal but I think Lisa VDP should stay on the show and be filmed only with the 2-3 people she can stand/who can stand her.

Then, those 2-3 people could be filmed while they repeat or exaggerate their conversations with Lisa to the rest of the cast. Then, those 2-3 could go back to Lisa and repeat/exaggerate what the others  said. Lather, rinse, repeat. 

You know, business as usual, pretty much. 

I understand your opinion but I respectfully disagree.

LV has issues with all  of her co-stars, which is fine, but the problem is Lisa's refusal to film with them. Refusing to document your interactions defeats the purpose of the show. RHOBH isn't a case study documentary of Lisa V and who she likes to talk to, it's a reality show featuring interactions and relationships in a planned surrounding. Setting a precedent of making special concessions for a cast member who refuses to play by the rules would be a nightmare for production and inorganic propaganda for the viewer. Just my opinion. 

Edited June 8, 2019 by MavisL

[SunnyBeBe]

This post was mine justifying Lisa's decision to not participate with the filming, but, I think it was on the wrong thread.  So sorry.  I've moved it to the Lisa V. thread.

Edited June 10, 2019 by SunnyBeBe

[Blondie]

Hmmm.  Did Kyle, Rinna and Erika set Lisa up and then bully her so she would leave and Kathy could step in? 

Did Erika reward Rinna for crawling up her rear end by giving her daughter (the anorexic one) the contract to model for 2 face?

Is anyone really interested in watching the Kyle/Kathy show?

Buh Bye RHOB.  Don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya!

[AuntiePam]

On 6/5/2019 at 6:47 PM, princelina said:

I think it's John Sessa 😄 

Here's my latest UO:  that hairstyle that has been a thing for a while now that Teddi and Dorit were sporting last night - waves through the hair with the ends all straight and unfinished looking.  Reminds me of the bad perm I got in college ☹️

Preach it!  The style has reached Iowa though, which is a sign that its popularity is fading.  We're always last.

I don't hate it as much as the uncombed heavily-moussed style from several years ago.  A local weather person just recently stopped wearing it that way.  I so badly wanted to brush her hair -- it looked so stiff!

[princelina]

On 6/10/2019 at 2:22 PM, AuntiePam said:

Preach it!  The style has reached Iowa though, which is a sign that its popularity is fading.  We're always last.

Haha I'd love for Dorit and Teddi to know that they'd be super-fashion-forward in Iowa 😄 

[Misslindsey]

My super UO and probably table for one opinion is that I think the word narcissist is thrown out way too often about all the housewives. I do think a lot of the women have narcissistic tendencies, but think very few of them are actually full fledged narcissists. 

I think the word bully gets thrown around too much as well in these franchises as well. Just because someone is angry or has a disagreement with another does not make them a bully.

[Stats Queen]

1 minute ago, Misslindsey said:

My super UO and probably table for one opinion is that I think the word narcissist is thrown out way too often about all the housewives. I do think a lot of the women have narcissistic tendencies, but think very few of them are actually full fledged narcissists. 

I think the word bully gets thrown around too much as well in these franchises as well. Just because someone is angry or has a disagreement with another does not make them a bully.

Make it a table for two. Also sociopath and psychopath get thrown out way too often. 

I really feel that the bully word gets thrown out way way too often and does a disservice to those who are  actually bullied.

[RealHousewife]

On 6/6/2019 at 7:48 AM, chlban said:

I haven't forgotten how Denise broke girl code by dating Richie Sambora immediately after he split with her BFF Heather Locklear. OTOH, she appears to have a good heart and her taking in old, discarded dogs scores big time points with me. So, still on the fence, but I don't really find her interesting. Her home has a beautiful view, but is not my style and she usually looks like she pulled whatever was on top of the laundry bin out to wear, so I get no house or clothes porn from her at all. She cannot form a sentence without the F word and seems obsessed with sex. Also get a wierd vibe from Mr. perfect Aaron. we will see how that plays out but her taste in men, well enough said.

I heard about that. On WWHL, she said she was never really good friends with Heather. She was someone she met through Charlie. 

[walnutqueen]

6 hours ago, Misslindsey said:

My super UO and probably table for one opinion is that I think the word narcissist is thrown out way too often about all the housewives. I do think a lot of the women have narcissistic tendencies, but think very few of them are actually full fledged narcissists. 

I think the word bully gets thrown around too much as well in these franchises as well. Just because someone is angry or has a disagreement with another does not make them a bully.

5 hours ago, Stats Queen said:

Make it a table for two. Also sociopath and psychopath get thrown out way too often. 

I really feel that the bully word gets thrown out way way too often and does a disservice to those who are  actually bullied.

Set that table for three, please.  It feels like the bad old days of "Reds under the bed", only now it is "narcs" (I HATE that term!) on every ho'wife franchise.

Don't even get me started on bullies, much less sociopaths/psychopaths.  Step away from pseudo scientific clickbait sites, folks.

[Jel]

Agree about "narcissist" being thrown out too much. There's the personality disorder, NPD, (which seems to be misunderstood) and then there's a pop psychology version which I think goes off the rails.  I think we see a lot of the pop psychology version of "narcissist" applied to the HWs. 

Disagree about "bullying" though with respect to BH. I think what we have seen this season is classic girl bullying. "Bullying" in many people's minds I guess is hitting, pushing, yelling insults, mocking etc. -- that's how the boys tend to do it.  But girl bullying is different. I think if you've ever wondered what it is, you get a good picture of it from this season of BH: shunning, gossiping, gas lighting, "being fake" etc.

[AKA...CJ86]

As I do a rewatch... I love Sassoon. I felt bad for Sassoon. I like writing, typing, texting, saying Sassoon.

I don't think she knew what show she signed up for. She spent most of the season in Sassoon, Fix My Life mode. And with that, I felt bad when she'd pop up on screen where after a certain point on the show, she'd turn up just so the other ladies can giggle about her behind her back.

Honestly, I'd trade the current cast for Joyce, Carlton, and Eden, and maybe Kathryn, IDK, I love my one and dones.

[kokapetl]

On 7/3/2019 at 3:37 AM, CyberJawa1986 said:

As I do a rewatch... I love Sassoon. I felt bad for Sassoon. I like writing, typing, texting, saying Sassoon.

I don't think she knew what show she signed up for. She spent most of the season in Sassoon, Fix My Life mode. And with that, I felt bad when she'd pop up on screen where after a certain point on the show, she'd turn up just so the other ladies can giggle about her behind her back.

Honestly, I'd trade the current cast for Joyce, Carlton, and Eden, and maybe Kathryn, IDK, I love my one and dones.

I liked Sassoon, although I struggle to remember her face.

My unpopular opinion is that LVP is a shit-stirring slag. She uses animals as a figurative shield; attack LVP and her rabid fans will tear you apart for attacking their patron saint of animal rescue. Her pink and mirrors Barbie dream house is ridiculous and it must smell like a barn or alternatively reek with perfume. Her makeup is fucking atrocious, and nobody could have made a fortune from nightclubs, bars and restaurants like Ken and Lisa did without being exploitative and shady people. And as for her LGBT support, she does it to promote her restaurants in WeHo. 

Edited July 7, 2019 by kokapetl

[ivygirl]

On 7/2/2019 at 12:37 PM, CyberJawa1986 said:

As I do a rewatch... I love Sassoon. I felt bad for Sassoon. I like writing, typing, texting, saying Sassoon.

I don't think she knew what show she signed up for. She spent most of the season in Sassoon, Fix My Life mode. And with that, I felt bad when she'd pop up on screen where after a certain point on the show, she'd turn up just so the other ladies can giggle about her behind her back.

Honestly, I'd trade the current cast for Joyce, Carlton, and Eden, and maybe Kathryn, IDK, I love my one and dones.

A) I would watch Sassoon, Fix My Life 

B) Minus Carlton, I would watch ROADHOBH (Real One-and-Done Housewives of Beverly Hills)

[kokapetl]

On 7/3/2019 at 3:37 AM, CyberJawa1986 said:

As I do a rewatch... I love Sassoon. I felt bad for Sassoon. I like writing, typing, texting, saying Sassoon.

Sassoon Sassoon Sassoonio. 

[RealHousewife]

On 6/6/2019 at 11:34 AM, SunnyBeBe said:

Yes. I look at Dorit and then at P.K..........She must have a good soul, right?  I mean.......she really seems to adore the man.  I admire people who just look at their lover's personality.  

My unpopular opinion is while he may not be a Mauricio sexy type of guy or the Ken to Dorit’s Barbie, I don’t see PK as ugly either. He’s just older and overweight imo. 

[SunnyBeBe]

6 minutes ago, RealHousewife said:

My unpopular opinion is while he may not be a Mauricio sexy type of guy or the Ken to Dorit’s Barbie, I don’t see PK as ugly either. He’s just older and overweight imo. 

I'm not crazy about Mauricio's looks, but, I do think that PK may get a bad edit on the show.  I've looked around at some photos of him and he actually looks pretty good in them.  Much better than he normally appears on the show, imo.  

[RealHousewife]

18 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said:

I'm not crazy about Mauricio's looks, but, I do think that PK may get a bad edit on the show.  I've looked around at some photos of him and he actually looks pretty good in them.  Much better than he normally appears on the show, imo.  

I don’t care too much about coloring myself, but I know so many women who go crazy over olive skin like Mauricio’s. It’s that whole tall, dark, and handsome thing. He also keeps in shape. I think Mauricio is handsome, but those attributes alone will get you far. I think that’s why there is so much hype about his looks. It’s like the effect blonde hair and big boobs on a slim woman have on men, where they automatically see a beautiful Barbie, despite how average a chick’s face may be. 😂

Maybe PK put on weight since those photos were taken? Regardless, he doesn’t have a honker nose or prominent jaw, or any real awful facial feature. He and Dorit produced darling children. I think Jagger is absolutely adorable, but I agree he looks like his daddy. Phoenix seems to look like her beautiful mother so far. 

[ivygirl]

22 hours ago, kokapetl said:

Sassoon Sassoon Sassoonio. 

There’s a girl that’s been on my miiinnnd/All the time/Sassoon Sassoon Sassoonio! Oh oh!

We don’t even know her name... so she left the show just the same!/Sassoon Sassoon Sassoonio!

[kokapetl]

All the real estate agents I see on tv are sharp and pushy. Mauricio must delegate a lot. 

[SweetieDarling]

Why did Kyle give a speech at the party? She's not the owner, is she? Does she work there too? I was under the impression that this is Mo's baby, not hers. I get that she's proud of him and all the money that he and the employees worked for, but it seemed odd to me that the wife of the man in charge gave the speech, if that's her only connection to the workings of the company. 

They were late to a party that they were hosting? Not cool, imo. I don't care if it's raining, leave earlier, Especially if it's YOUR party.

[Stats Queen]

7 minutes ago, SweetieDarling said:

Why did Kyle give a speech at the party? She's not the owner, is she? Does she work there too? I was under the impression that this is Mo's baby, not hers. I get that she's proud of him and all the money that he and the employees worked for, but it seemed odd to me that the wife of the man in charge gave the speech, if that's her only connection to the workings of the company. 

Exactly - I thought it was odd.

She also said when he lost his job THEY went and got their real estate license. Did she get a license also? That was confusing. 

If she didn’t - then she’s confused about how this works.

[chenoa333]

On 6/6/2019 at 9:34 AM, SunnyBeBe said:

Yes. I look at Dorit and then at P.K..........She must have a good soul, right?  I mean.......she really seems to adore the man.  I admire people who just look at their lover's personality.  

Yes. Their kids are so cute. Jagger resembles PK and hopefully, will grow up to be an attractive looking version of PK. Even Michael Jackson's kids turned out attractive even though MJ was not attractive at any point in his life. (IMO!)

AND I still think Dorit (despite the understandable dislike people have for her as a person) is very beautiful. 

[nexxie]

I enjoy Teddi - she has a good heart, even if she’s a messy drunk.

[RealHousewife]

7 hours ago, nexxie said:

I enjoy Teddi - she has a good heart, even if she’s a messy drunk.

I enjoy Housewives who are a bit more glamorous and over the top. I like seeing their closets, glam squads, and such. But if I were to pick a friend out of this bunch, Teddi would be a good choice imo. I too think she has a good heart. She’s also pretty normal and down to earth. She doesn’t have a mean sense of humor, doesn’t get aggressive for no reason, only really gets into it with people who are rude and dismissive of her. I’d take her “know it all millennial” self over a certain mean girl who said Teddi’s not even worth her time. 

Edited July 11, 2019 by RealHousewife

[dosodog]

Not me.

My friends are not the kind of people who get dismayed at bringing a bag of Cheesy Poofs camping.

 

[MatildaMoody]

19 hours ago, dosodog said:

Not me.

My friends are not the kind of people who get dismayed at bringing a bag of Cheesy Poofs camping.

 

I'm with you on that. I also don't want to be friends with someone who will appoint themselves as the moral compass of a group of friends. I just don't understand how someone could be so sanctimonious, obnoxious, and boring at the same time.

[dosodog]

Really, I don't think I could be deep friends with any of them. 

We're all flawed.  We have good and bad in all of us.

But they all just seem like so much work!

 

[eleanorofaquitaine]

23 hours ago, nexxie said:

I enjoy Teddi - she has a good heart, even if she’s a messy drunk.

22 hours ago, RealHousewife said:

I enjoy Housewives who are a bit more glamorous and over the top. I like seeing their closets, glam squads, and such. But if I were to pick a friend out of this bunch, Teddi would be a good choice imo. I too think she has a good heart. She’s also pretty normal and down to earth. She doesn’t have a mean sense of humor, doesn’t get aggressive for no reason, only really gets into it with people who are rude and dismissive of her. I’d take her “know it all millennial” self over a certain mean girl who said Teddi’s not even worth her time. 

I agree with you both.  She is certainly flawed and I think she has a hard time letting things go (like the stuff with Erika). But I also believe she has a good heart and that she does take the accountability issues seriously, even if she makes mistakes and messes up.  Of all of them, she seems like her most authentic self, rather than like she's playing a character. (I guess I feel that Kyle, love her or hate her, is fairly authentic). 

[nexxie]

1 hour ago, eleanorofaquitaine said:

I agree with you both.  She is certainly flawed and I think she has a hard time letting things go (like the stuff with Erika). But I also believe she has a good heart and that she does take the accountability issues seriously, even if she makes mistakes and messes up.  Of all of them, she seems like her most authentic self, rather than like she's playing a character. (I guess I feel that Kyle, love her or hate her, is fairly authentic). 

Teddi seems most authentic to me too - and, yes, Kyle. Kind of nice that they’ve bonded over real issues. Denise comes off as authentic too - and fun.

Rinna talked about putting on an act in the recent LA Times piece about her - she seems to approach the show as another acting job, where she’s both “comic relief” (from the article) and shit-stirrer. She might have some big secrets.

Erika is neither the Erika Jayne, nor the Erika Girardi, we’ve seen imo - hopefully we’ll see more of the real person as she gets more comfortable (unless Teddi and Kyle get drunk and scare her away).

To me, Dorit and Camille are really into the livestyles they attained through marriage, and the illusions of grandeur they cling to. Not sure who they really are - and wonder if they know.

Edited July 11, 2019 by nexxie

[eleanorofaquitaine]

29 minutes ago, nexxie said:

Teddi seems most authentic to me too - and, yes, Kyle. Kind of nice that they’ve bonded over real issues. Denise comes off as authentic too - and fun.

Rinna talked about putting on an act in the recent LA Times piece about her - she seems to approach the show as another acting job, where she’s both “comic relief” (from the article) and shit-stirrer. She might have some big secrets.

Erika is neither the Erika Jayne, nor the Erika Girardi, we’ve seen imo - hopefully we’ll see more of the real person as she gets more comfortable (unless Teddi and Kyle get drunk and scare her away).

To me, Dorit and Camille are really into the livestyles they attained through marriage, and the illusions of grandeur they cling to. Not sure who they really are - and wonder if they know.

In my view, Rinna rightly recognized that the Real Housewives shows occupy the same space that soap operas used to when it comes to watching drama.  There is always going to be some audience for that kind of melodrama and with fewer soaps, the Housewives were the next best thing for a soap actress who couldn't really sustain that career.  So she's probably using the same skills she did on Days. I can't say that I blame her for finding a way to continue to make a living but it means she can be exhausting to watch. 

[chenoa333]

2 hours ago, nexxie said:

Teddi seems most authentic to me too - and, yes, Kyle. Kind of nice that they’ve bonded over real issues.

I get your point. But we'll see how long their "bonded" friendship lasts. 

I think these 2 are going to eventually become enemies. It's all for show but that's what I think is going to happen. 

[Rescue Mama]

On 7/10/2019 at 11:29 AM, chenoa333 said:

Yes. Their kids are so cute. Jagger resembles PK and hopefully, will grow up to be an attractive looking version of PK. Even Michael Jackson's kids turned out attractive even though MJ was not attractive at any point in his life. (IMO!)

AND I still think Dorit (despite the understandable dislike people have for her as a person) is very beautiful. 

If Michael Jackson has anything to do with those kids DNA, I will eat my hat.  

[Higgins]

On ‎7‎/‎11‎/‎2019 at 6:40 PM, chenoa333 said:

I get your point. But we'll see how long their "bonded" friendship lasts. 

I think these 2 are going to eventually become enemies. It's all for show but that's what I think is going to happen. 

It's all show for Kyle and Teddi will be crushed. I have no doubt.

[kokapetl]

Another thing that shits me about LVP’s charities: there’s absolutely no skin in the game. They’re ultra safe. She’s not taking a brave stance.

Edited July 13, 2019 by kokapetl

[HunterHunted]

On 7/10/2019 at 1:29 PM, chenoa333 said:

Even Michael Jackson's kids turned out attractive even though MJ was not attractive at any point in his life. (IMO!)

On 7/12/2019 at 8:01 PM, Rescue Mama said:

If Michael Jackson has anything to do with those kids DNA, I will eat my hat.  

Almost no one believes Michael is the biological father of those children. Possibly Prince Michael II, but the other two...hell no.

He was an attractive guy in his 20s before his body dysmorphia and self-loathing kicked into overdrive.

Edited July 15, 2019 by HunterHunted

[nexxie]

I wish they’d bring Eileen back - and, at the same time, wouldn’t wish it on her!

[RealHousewife]

45 minutes ago, nexxie said:

I wish they’d bring Eileen back - and, at the same time, wouldn’t wish it on her!

Lol ditto. I adore Eileen. 

[chenoa333]

On 6/14/2019 at 6:48 AM, Stats Queen said:

Make it a table for two. Also sociopath and psychopath get thrown out way too often. 

I really feel that the bully word gets thrown out way way too often and does a disservice to those who are  actually bullied.

And we can add "bipolar" to that list. I've noticed that most people who like to use these psychology related terms have no education or training in psychology. Like every HoWife on every franchise.

[Happy Camper]

😇

6 hours ago, chenoa333 said:

And we can add "bipolar" to that list. I've noticed that most people who like to use these psychology related terms have no education or training in psychology. Like every HoWife on every franchise.

I am fine with this as long as I'm permitted to call some of the women narcissistic. Please don't deny me that.😈

Edited July 17, 2019 by Happy Camper

[link417]

My first UO is that Michael Jackson conspiracy theories should go in an off-topic thread.

My next UO is that I like when the women get all drunk and silly, I find it hilarious.

I like when they try to dance — also hilarious.

I like when they’re a little (a little) mean; having everyone eat rainbows and shit butterflies 100% of the time is boring.

My super UO is that I wouldn’t mind never seeing any of the cast’s dogs onscreen ever again. 

[islandgal140]

My UOs are:

- I am looking forward to seeing what the show will be like without LVP.

- I would be fine with all of the women returning, including Camille.

- I hate all these "I am the Queen" proclamations and someone is coming for my crown bullshit. I hate when LVP and Nene do it and that weirdo coronation of Queen Kyle at the reunion was no exception. That being said, Kyle might be the center spoke of which they all orbit around but she doesn't really have the big dick energy to be a "Queen" (i.e. she is a beta) 

- I don't find Kyle vile but I do think she has a HS "best friend to the head cheerleader" mentality about friendship. 

- I was shocked by all the crow's feet I saw last night. They must use a filter while filming because everyone looks so wrinkle free on the show. 

- I don't see the appeal of monster sized penis and I wish Denise would stop talking about it. Sounds painful and dangerous. 

On 7/10/2019 at 1:41 PM, SweetieDarling said:

Why did Kyle give a speech at the party? She's not the owner, is she? Does she work there too? I was under the impression that this is Mo's baby, not hers. I get that she's proud of him and all the money that he and the employees worked for, but it seemed odd to me that the wife of the man in charge gave the speech, if that's her only connection to the workings of the company. 

Finally playing a little chess perhaps? She is setting up for the culmination of the prophecy that Mario will never emotionally fulfill her and will leave when the last kid is out of the house. She will be taking the Camille approach to divorce settlement as opposed to Denise.

Edited July 17, 2019 by islandgal140

[link417]

@islandgal140 — I am DED at “sounds painful and dangerous.” 🤣 I thought I was the only person who felt that way about large penises!

[HunterHunted]

20 hours ago, islandgal140 said:

- I don't see the appeal of monster sized penis and I wish Denise would stop talking about it. Sounds painful and dangerous.

11 hours ago, link417 said:

@islandgal140 — I am DED at “sounds painful and dangerous.” 🤣 I thought I was the only person who felt that way about large penises!

Joyce used to talk about the size of her husband's big penis all the time and it was beyond irritating then. I don't need a repeat performance from Denise. I don't love the idea of a giant dick slamming into my cervix either.

[RealHousewife]

4 hours ago, HunterHunted said:

Joyce used to talk about the size of her husband's big penis all the time and it was beyond irritating then. I don't need a repeat performance from Denise. I don't love the idea of a giant dick slamming into my cervix either.

Oh yeah Joyce liked to talk about big pee pee’s. 😂 I like both Joyce and Denise, but I could do without all the penis talk. I’m sure Andy can’t get enough of it! 

[Higgins]

On 7/16/2019 at 4:40 PM, chenoa333 said:

And we can add "bipolar" to that list. I've noticed that most people who like to use these psychology related terms have no education or training in psychology. Like every HoWife on every franchise.

Some of us who use the term Bipolar do have a professional background, education and training.

[Jel]

My UO is that Teddi's "heart" is decidedly average, and low average at that.