Endeavour - General Discussion

[peacheslatour]

13 minutes ago, Alistaire said:

Yes. Remember when The Six Wives of Henry VIII was considered kind oof "adult?" That was before the slasher industry and things like The Tudors. 

As for Diana Rigg, I still would love to be Emma Peel. Now there's an idea for "Mystery!"

I was allowed to watch anything that was on PBS. 

[freddi]

2 hours ago, EyewatchTV211 said:

In addition to this, weren't those numbers just an example that Endeavour was using to describe what was happening? I wasn't assuming that those were the specific payment amounts for every person who was scammed.

Actually, the £7000 number was one I invented, as we had seen a document or two stating a  £10,000 insurance policy (I substracted the  £2500- £3000 paid as a payoff).  Given that Ludo was depending on ladders failing and people actually being injured enough to die, and given the elaborate home and lifestyle (sponsoring concerts, etc.), it seemed like not much income to count on.  But I agree that for a "normal" person, a few  £7,000 payments each year in 1970 would be very welcome.  

Really, the more you look at the scam, the more it falls apart.  I'd expect more broken bones than deaths from ladder falls.  They were at most one-story ladders!  

[buttersister]

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In this interview bit, Shaun Evans mentions that he watched at least some episodes of "Inspector Morse."

Nice interviews. I can't recall if the one I saw was recorded later into the run of the show. I do recall being surprised at hearing him say he hadn't seen any of the other episodes!

Alistaire, apparently Universal/NBC (or whatever they're called today) bought airing rights to Downton. Tonight's line up makes me long for Beecham House, which wasn't very good.😉 

Passport is definitely a fund-raising device. But, for example, in 2018, the administration's proposed budget included a proposal (not passed) to end federal funding for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, which would result in the end of a number of (not all) PBS stations.

[peacheslatour]

3 minutes ago, buttersister said:

Nice interviews. I can't recall if the one I saw was recorded later into the run of the show. I do recall being surprised at hearing him say he hadn't seen any of the other episodes!

Alistaire, apparently Universal/NBC (or whatever they're called today) bought airing rights to Downton. Tonight's line up makes me long for Beecham House, which wasn't very good.😉 

Passport is definitely a fund-raising device. But, for example, in 2018, the administration's proposed budget included a proposal (not passed) to end federal funding for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, which would result in the end of a number of (not all) PBS stations.

Where is an eloquent Mr. Rogers  type to testify before Congress when you need them?

[JudyObscure]

I did watch "I Claudius" and there was a toga party scene with one bare boob right out in public.  we were all shocked.

Last night Hubs and I were exhausted and decided to kick back in the recliners and watch anything, anything at all.  We ended up watching the one movie on cable that we hadn't already seen.  It was, "The Wolf of Wall Street."  I'm not usually terribly upset by bad language and nudity, but If I'd had any pearls I would have been clutching them.  It was so awful in so many ways, no story arc or learning curve for the horrible characters, nothing funny although it was billed as a comedy, and every line of dialogue was just a string of obscenities. Full frontal nudity, both sexes, in scene after scene, after scene. For four hours.  We watched it all the way through hoping to be rewarded in the end with Dicaprio's downfall, but it didn't really pay off.

[peacheslatour]

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Come to think of it, Masterpiece got away with a lot that network t.v. didn't when my namesake 🙂 Mr. Cooke was host.

I had the biggest crush on Alistaire Cooke. Remember Cookie Monster on Monsterpiece Theater?

Didn't PBS also air Caligula or am I thinking of I, Claudius?

Edited August 30, 2020 by peacheslatour

[peacheslatour]

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Thank you, Peaches. 🍑 After I posted, I thought I had a senior moment. I went and checked IMDB, and they listed Caligula as a film. But I could swear Caligula aired directly before the original Forsyte Saga on Masterpiece Theater... in the days before the heartthrobs Lewis and Graves made that series the most tragic ever on PBS.

Yeah, I was the one having a senior moment, lol. Caligula was just one of the characters in I, Claudius. Brilliant cast. what is it about British television that makes it so much better than American tv?

*she types as she's watching The Office US*

[Dessert]

9 hours ago, LennieBriscoe said:

please spare me from ever again hearing that lame attempt at a "60s song" in the "hippies" episode

Yes!!! The counterculture episodes are painful. I’m old enough to remember what it was like.

I agree that the explanation of Ludo’s insurance scam doesn’t hold up to scrutiny. At the end, he seemed to claim that Violetta, his “assistant” was going around sabotaging their marks’ ladders, welding, etc. I.don’t.think.so!!! Even if she wore disguises, a beautiful, exotic, Italian woman would be noticed skulking around strangers’ houses.

Ludo’s operations also seemed to require a lot of cooperation from other people. Did he hire those faith healers ...and the pickpocket who stole Morse’s wallet? Surely one of his operatives would have turned on him.

Nothing new. The plots usually have some glaring inconsistencies. I don’t really care, though, because the real mystery is one of character development - how does young Endeavour become the older Morse, the child is father to the man, and all that.

[LennieBriscoe]

Dessert, My heart leaps up....when I read a line from Wordsworth!  🌈

https://poets.org/poem/my-heart-leaps

 

 

 

[JudyObscure]

2 hours ago, Alistaire said:

The Forsyte Saga 2002 was dying and going to heaven, with the sexiest redhead ever to walk the face of the earth AND Rupert Graves.

Absolutely agree.  My OSU PBS re-ran the whole thing last spring (I think it was) and it was still wonderful. 

[Suzn]

I don't think Ludo's insurance scam could make him a millionaire as he claimed to be (and appeared to be living the life style of).  I also don't see how Violetta was setting up all the "accidents". 

The murders and murderers seemed a bit confusing.  Maybe for them too since both Morse and Fred were terribly wrong at various points.  Of neither one was giving the other the benefit of the doubt, just stubbornly saying the other was wrong.

[Dessert]

I know many people are upset by Endeavour’s affair with a married woman. Of course it was wrong, but people make mistakes. This isn’t his first time at least trying to start things with a married woman. In the pilot, he tried to kiss the opera singer even though he knew she was married.

With Violeta, Morse was completely swept away and living in a fantasy - the one where he gets the girl and she leaves someone else for him instead of the other way around. There were a few wonderful details that demonstrated it without saying so explicitly.

For instance, my favorite bit of dialogue in the whole series was when Violetta first asked him if they could continue their affair. He said that sleeping with married women was “not my scene.” I almost laughed out loud. It was so unlike Morse to use that sort of “hip” slang. He was trying to sound sophisticated and blasé, but was way out of his depth. I thought “Oh, Morse! You are in so much trouble!”

Another example is the set design for Morse and Violetta’s love shack. It was hilarious and brilliant. There he was, in someone else’s bed (a dead woman’s, it turns out, LOL), telling Violetta that “we’re all adults”, “these things happen” “it’s no one’s fault”. All this is said in a preposterous bubble of a fantasy apartment unlike anything Morse would inhabit in real life. It was the perfect visual embodiment of how out of touch with reality he’d become.

[QuinnM]

On 8/24/2020 at 7:34 PM, freddi said:

 

There was some question of how Thursday knew the hotel where Morse was staying.  Pre-cell-phone, pre-email, it was common to leave contact information with work when away from the usual phone contact numbers, or when traveling

 

Morse sent a postcard from the hotel the first time he stayed there.  So maybe he stayed in the same place?

[sinycalone]

I don't think the moderately valued insurance policies were the only scam Ludo and Violetta were running.  There may have been far more remunerative cons, as I mentioned upthread, that were handled with much more subtlety so that the reporter never caught them in her searches.

As to Ludo laying most of the blame for the actual contrived accidents on Violetta....he was trying to destroy  Morse's view of Violetta as a woman forced into the criminal activities, a relative innocent.  I think Ludo did far more of the "work" creating the accidents than Violetta.

[peacheslatour]

2 hours ago, sinycalone said:

I don't think the moderately valued insurance policies were the only scam Ludo and Violetta were running.  There may have been far more remunerative cons, as I mentioned upthread, that were handled with much more subtlety so that the reporter never caught them in her searches.

As to Ludo laying most of the blame for the actual contrived accidents on Violetta....he was trying to destroy  Morse's view of Violetta as a woman forced into the criminal activities, a relative innocent.  I think Ludo did far more of the "work" creating the accidents than Violetta.

He for sure did Mrs. Bright.

[Eliza422]

I've just rewatched all of Endeavour (sans the pilot episode) over the past week since Amazon is showing 1 - 6 on prime. It is so long between seasons, and each is only 4 - 6 episodes long, that I had really forgotten how it all started, how the characters interacted, all of it.

It made even more disappointed in this most recent season. The Ludo/Violetta was the merest whisper of a story, nothing that could really last over 3 measly episodes. The whole walkway killer plot line was weird and meandered and ended up with a 'wtf' from me.

Chris Sullivan Site, who does wonderful reviews and information on the whole Morse universe, has made the suggestion that because there has only been one writer for all of Endeavour, Russell Lewis, that it's getting harder to do the same quality stories. Bringing in new writers with fresh ideas would have been beneficial.

 

[doyouevengohere]

The whole Ludo/Violetta plot felt silly and ridiculous, but if you read the Inspector Morse books, some of the storylines are quite ridiculous and a stretch as well.  What I found silly was that young baby Morse seemed irritated and morally offended at the professors and don's sexist remarks and actions, but in the books he would have felt in a similar way- he was a right randy old fart in the books and they were full of him being a sexist jerk and making off colour remarks and he loved porn movies.  The Inspector Morse tv series cleaned him up a bit , and the Endeavor series makes him thoughtful and downright respectful of women.

[Suzn]

Have any of you seen Moulin Rouge (2001 with Nicole Kidman as Satine and Ewan McGregor as Christian)?  It starts with Christian's narration, "this is a story about love" and ends with Satine dying in Christian's arms.  Coincidence?

[dcalley]

 

On 8/24/2020 at 10:34 AM, dargosmydaddy said:

Or why they couldn't have tried their own sting (are there no female police since Trewlove left?).

I did notice a uniformed woman standing guard outside a crime scene Morse was entering. I think it was the Matilda College woman who died while trying to take down a book.

On 8/24/2020 at 3:36 PM, freddi said:

Agree.  And who is ready to sign up for the series "Frazil"?  Endeavour never would have found the insurance scheme if she had not noticed all the odd deaths.  And she was the one who first learned about the death of Mrs. Bright (but how?  no one would have called for emergency help, as she was alone).   

Yes, her being the one to break the news of Mrs Bright's death was super weird. We never got to see Dorothea learn the truth behind the "accidental" deaths, did we? She did so much of the work; it's a shame we didn't see her get closure.

On 8/30/2020 at 11:58 AM, Magnumfangirl said:

Does anybody know why Sara Vickers did not appear at all this season?

I see she had a baby, but I had thought she was absent so she could appear in Watchmen.

On 8/30/2020 at 4:12 PM, peacheslatour said:

I had the biggest crush on Alistaire Cooke. Remember Cookie Monster on Monsterpiece Theater?

I sure do!

I believe Mr Bright said both he and his wife had cashed in their insurance policies, so I am a little worried Bright is going to have some accident of his own now due to something "Robin" (Ludo) sabotaged at the same time as the string of lights.

[dargosmydaddy]

5 minutes ago, dcalley said:

I see she had a baby, but I had thought she was absent so she could appear in Watchmen.

According to Wikipedia, Watchmen filmed in late 2018... if anything, it might have conflicted with series 6 of Endeavour (but apparently didn't, since Vickers was in that series), not this one.

Incidentally, I spent all of Watchmen thinking Mrs. Crookshanks looked kind of familiar, but not realizing she was Joan Thursday until I stumbled upon it on IMBD later.

[Suzn]

8 hours ago, Alistaire said:

Yo, Endeavour Dudes and Lasses 😀 --

If you haven't seen "Shetland" yet, it's streaming FOR FREE on YouTube and will absolutely satisfy anyone jonesing for mor(s)e Endeavour. Unbelievable series and no commercials if you have Youtube Premium.

Shetland is wonderful!

[buttersister]

12 hours ago, Alistaire said:

If you haven't seen "Shetland" yet, it's streaming FOR FREE on YouTube and will absolutely satisfy anyone jonesing for mor(s)e Endeavour. Unbelievable series and no commercials if you have Youtube Premium.

Whoa, looks like season 4 and more are there (Netflix stopped at 3 and I've been pining since, even considered getting BritBox). Thanks! Funny thing, I used cc on my Endeavor rewatch because I'd lose a few lines to accents. Shetland? Nonstop cc. 🤣  #WorthIt

[LGraves65]

*skidding all excitedly* 

I hardly ever find Easter eggs on TV shows (probably because I'm playing Cooke Jam Blast on my phone while I'm watching) but I DID get one in "Raja."  The wrong address ploy was lifted directed from the case of  William Herbert Wallace. 

[ML89]

6 hours ago, Alistaire said:

Oh, dear dear dear. My idol, Dame Diana, has died.

Ms. Rigg, You will never know how you inspired--and inspired--and inspired-- a little girl in some very hard circumstances. Flights of angels, ma'am. Flights of angels.

Emojis... wouldn't suit Mrs. Peel.

I was ripping some old DVDs just this week, including the bits of the finale of Morse, and there she was, intro'ing the show. And I well remember her in the absolutely bonkers "Mother Love" on Mystery too! RIP.

[Driad]

Is the name Fred Thursday supposed to remind us of Joe Friday (Dragnet)?

[WatchrTina]

On 9/17/2020 at 6:39 PM, Driad said:

Is the name Fred Thursday supposed to remind us of Joe Friday (Dragnet)?

I doubt it because I'll bet that show (Dragnet) never aired in the UK (but I'm guessing.)

What Fred's name reminds me of is the Thursday Next series of "alternate history mystery novels" (that's how Wikipedia characterizes them), which are also set in the UK.  I'm guessing her name (Thursday Next is a female detective) is intended to be a humorous play on words, but I presume that play on words only works in the UK because "Thursday" is also a name that Brits are familiar with.

[peacheslatour]

49 minutes ago, WatchrTina said:

I doubt it because I'll bet that show (Dragnet) never aired in the UK (but I'm guessing.)

What Fred's name reminds me of is the Thursday Next series of "alternate history mystery novels" (that's how Wikipedia characterizes them), which are also set in the UK.  I'm guessing her name (Thursday Next is a female detective) is intended to be a humorous play on words, but I presume that play on words only works in the UK because "Thursday" is also a name that Brits are familiar with.

Same here. I love the name.

[LennieBriscoe]

On 8/24/2020 at 7:32 AM, Alistaire said:

I never watched the "Inspector Morse" series, which I will but not until "Endeavour" has its finale. I don't know therefore if (older) Inspector Morse is or isn't more traditional in his belief systems. But something bothered me about Season 7, and it's partisan, and I'm only posting about what bothered me as a way to say goodbye to this season.

Season 7's willingness to engage with psychic phenomenon and (if ever so briefly in episode 3) the vampire-craze of the early 70's was era-accurate. As someone who came of age in 1970 and was impacted personally by alternate spirituality, I went to the opposite extreme very, very young. Morse says he doesn't believe in "sin," but also that he doesn't believe in "forgiveness." If you believe in neither...

Then Thursday's sudden harsh change of attitude toward him this season is explained, because Morse's contradictory statements suggest his opinion of himself is as high as Thursday suddenly realizes. (There is no back-story for Thursday's change of heart toward his partner except for the brilliant scene with Winnie in "Oracle" that suggests a vague but intense midlife crisis, but that makes no specific reference to Morse.)

For me, this season's tragedy is rooted in classism that has nothing but everything to do with the Oxford setting. Morse is arrogant in a way only a middle-class man would be when it comes to never checking out "the Killer" (because we don't know real name of the L.U.D.O.). Other posters here have pointed out the two foreigners' ostentation. We don't even know if they're Italian. They have nouveau riche written all over them, but Morse doesn't notice. An upper-class adulterer, even a "useful idiot" connected to law enforcement, would take care to investigate the husband he's cuckolding, and Morse's failure to do so suggests that contrary to his boast, he most definitely does believe in sin.

He is so vulnerable when it comes to his "betters," surrounded by them every day in his specific city, that he surrenders to a knock-off, not a convincing knock-off at that, far away from his colleagues' eyes in "exotic" Venice. All this is very middle-class and tragic.

Thursday, on the other hand, is so damn bitter throughout this season when he has every reason not to be. He claimed a huge moral victory last season with Box. His conscience is clean as a baby's butt in regard to using his position for personal gain. So is the problem too much "blood and ugliness," as he claims at the beginning of the season? He's happy with Winnie, who definitely becomes sympathetic at the season's conclusion. He is way way WAY too hard on Morse, from "Oracle" right until the cemetery quay.

The only thing to infer about this "love story" is that it is Fred's "repentance" for the "sin" of making uppity young Endeavour--after all, just a struggling workingman like himself--the focus of enmity in a setting that pits "betters" against plain men like himself. Both Fred and Morse need "forgiveness" for themselves, because, so tragically, both were right. It will be interesting to at least me to see if Season 8, whenever it may appear, will bring them together again, because both are, in ways maybe only a non-British viewer could notice, pawns of a class-system whose spirituality is even darker than the events of this season.

 

Wow. 👏👏👏👏👏 

[LennieBriscoe]

On 9/20/2020 at 5:50 PM, WatchrTina said:

I doubt it because I'll bet that show (Dragnet) never aired in the UK (but I'm guessing.)

What Fred's name reminds me of is the Thursday Next series of "alternate history mystery novels" (that's how Wikipedia characterizes them), which are also set in the UK.  I'm guessing her name (Thursday Next is a female detective) is intended to be a humorous play on words, but I presume that play on words only works in the UK because "Thursday" is also a name that Brits are familiar with.

"Dragnet" was, in fact, the first American show on ITV.

https://nostalgiacentral.com/television/tv-by-decade/tv-shows-1950s/dragnet-2/

And was very popular!

https://www.itv.com/news/central/2016-05-05/itv-comes-to-the-midlands-top-5-uk-tv-shows-of-1956

 

Edited September 22, 2020 by LennieBriscoe

[swissair100]

On 8/24/2020 at 2:10 PM, LennieBriscoe said:

I still prefer, especially with a show as---I'm just going to say it---full of literary pretensions as this, inherent logic. Not realistic logic, necessarily, but structural logic.

Although I do miss the simplicity & straight-forwardness of the excellent Foyle's War.

As a fan of the universe that is all things Morse (been a fan of Thaw since his gritty Sweeney years), I'm glad to still have Endeavour around, even though the wonderful Deguello would have finished the series very nicely.  Looking forward to Season 8!

And Rupert Graves - who can forget his frolic in Room with a View 😄

 

[Dessert]

On 9/22/2020 at 12:07 AM, LennieBriscoe said:

but also that he doesn't believe in "forgiveness." If you believe in neither...

Very interesting analysis, but I have to nitpick. Morse doesn’t tell Violetta that he doesn’t believe in forgiveness; says he’s not good at forgiveness. Big difference. I would say that, at the end, she gets her answer - he does forgive her. Whether he forgives himself is another story.

[Popples]

Finally, and update and it's good news.

Endeavour season 8: ITV confirms new episodes will air in 2021!

[peacheslatour]

Very good news!

[doyouevengohere]

The latest series has started filming in Oxford!  There are pictures online of filming starting this week and of Shawn directing!

[peacheslatour]

32 minutes ago, doyouevengohere said:

The latest series has started filming in Oxford!  There are pictures online of filming starting this week and of Shawn directing!

Woo Hoo!

[One4Sorrow2TooBad]

Thanks for the heads up, love this show.  Watched a rerun of Unforgotten Thurs. night on PBS, that's another excellent little drama series too!

[Umbelina]

On 8/30/2020 at 3:28 PM, Suzn said:

I don't think Ludo's insurance scam could make him a millionaire as he claimed to be (and appeared to be living the life style of).  I also don't see how Violetta was setting up all the "accidents". 

The murders and murderers seemed a bit confusing.  Maybe for them too since both Morse and Fred were terribly wrong at various points.  Of neither one was giving the other the benefit of the doubt, just stubbornly saying the other was wrong.

I don't think Violetta was setting them all up, it's possible she made connections with the ladies in some cases, etc.  We actually know Ludo tampered with the electricity at the Thursday house, Mrs. Thursday tells her husband that he (in the guise of a faith healer) obviously did that.  As far as who got her to sign over the insurance policy, or her husband?  They didn't really say, that could have been Violetta or Ludo.

On 9/2/2020 at 12:59 PM, Eliza422 said:

I've just rewatched all of Endeavour (sans the pilot episode) over the past week since Amazon is showing 1 - 6 on prime. It is so long between seasons, and each is only 4 - 6 episodes long, that I had really forgotten how it all started, how the characters interacted, all of it.

It made even more disappointed in this most recent season. The Ludo/Violetta was the merest whisper of a story, nothing that could really last over 3 measly episodes. The whole walkway killer plot line was weird and meandered and ended up with a 'wtf' from me.

Chris Sullivan Site, who does wonderful reviews and information on the whole Morse universe, has made the suggestion that because there has only been one writer for all of Endeavour, Russell Lewis, that it's getting harder to do the same quality stories. Bringing in new writers with fresh ideas would have been beneficial.

 

I think shooting had to stop early because of COVID.  I actually loved that this season brought Thursday and Morse back together with Morse soothing Thursday's ego in that letter, and Thursday rushing to Venice to be Morse's back up and to save his life.

On 9/3/2020 at 12:44 PM, doyouevengohere said:

The whole Ludo/Violetta plot felt silly and ridiculous, but if you read the Inspector Morse books, some of the storylines are quite ridiculous and a stretch as well.  What I found silly was that young baby Morse seemed irritated and morally offended at the professors and don's sexist remarks and actions, but in the books he would have felt in a similar way- he was a right randy old fart in the books and they were full of him being a sexist jerk and making off colour remarks and he loved porn movies.  The Inspector Morse tv series cleaned him up a bit , and the Endeavor series makes him thoughtful and downright respectful of women.

Haven't read the books, but I completely bought the whole love story, and I always thought Violetta did love him, even though, to me, it was obvious she was also using him.

On 9/5/2020 at 8:33 AM, Suzn said:

Have any of you seen Moulin Rouge (2001 with Nicole Kidman as Satine and Ewan McGregor as Christian)?  It starts with Christian's narration, "this is a story about love" and ends with Satine dying in Christian's arms.  Coincidence?

I'm on of the few who LOVE that show!

On 9/24/2020 at 9:38 AM, Dessert said:

Very interesting analysis, but I have to nitpick. Morse doesn’t tell Violetta that he doesn’t believe in forgiveness; says he’s not good at forgiveness. Big difference. I would say that, at the end, she gets her answer - he does forgive her. Whether he forgives himself is another story.

She admits she loves him, dying words, nothing to gain, so yes, I think in those moments he knew she had loved him all along, but was trapped.

(new to this thread, just read the last couple of pages so far, looking forward to reading more.)

I stumbled on this show, it captured me, I really like it.  Season 6 was depressing, but still, so real, I hated "the team" not being solid anymore, but with the resolve in season 7, I actually appreciate season 6 more.  It stepped into a very much more "real" feel to me.  I want to know more about that cop that joined the secret group, and more about that group as well.

[Popples]

A couple of behind the scenes photos from the Oxford Mail:

[Popples]

Endeavour season eight plot details released - and it sounds brilliant!

We have a synopsis for the first episode!

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Opening the series in 1971, a death threat to Oxford Wanderers' star striker Jack Swift places Endeavour and his team at the heart of the glitz and glamour of 1970s football, exposing the true cost of success and celebrity, and with it, a deep-rooted division that is soon reflected much closer to home.

 

[LennieBriscoe]

On 7/5/2019 at 6:03 PM, WatchrTina said:

Wasn't that was explained in the show?  I thought they told us that  Endeavour's mother was a Quaker and Quakers have a tradition of naming their children for virtues like Perseverance or Faith or Temperance.  But it IS a weird name and hence his decision to known -- both professionally and personally -- as simply "Morse."

UPDATE:  I've just discovered that Endeavour season 1 and 2 are available on Amazon Prime.  Oh goody.  I'm getting NOTHING done this weekend.

I just this weekend  watched that "explanation of 'Endeavour'"show.

Except it was an episode  of "Inspector Morse"! 

[LennieBriscoe]

On 8/30/2020 at 4:21 PM, Alistaire said:

Thank you, Peaches. 🍑 After I posted, I thought I had a senior moment. I went and checked IMDB, and they listed Caligula as a film. But I could swear Caligula aired directly before the original Forsyte Saga on Masterpiece Theater... in the days before the heartthrobs Lewis and Graves made that series the most tragic ever on PBS.

A very, very sad fact about the 2002 Forsyte Saga: the marital rape scene was scheduled to be filmed the day the Twin Towers were bombed. (Sorry, truly, if my saying this upsets anyone.) I watched an interview with Damian Lewis where he talked about how hard it was to do; and it was at that point that I realized that I am very, very glad I never had any talent that would have led me to want to be an actor.

There really was no way  that the obscene (a Bob Guccione production) (and Helen Miien notwithstanding) "Caligula" was on PBS. Surely you are thinking of "I, Claudius"!

[Daff]

On 5/23/2021 at 10:48 PM, LennieBriscoe said:

I just this weekend  watched that "explanation of 'Endeavour'"show.

Except it was an episode  of "Inspector Morse"! 

In that episode, he gave two reasons. I remember his father’s more readily than his mother’s. His father admired James Cook, who captained the HMS Endeavour. Also, on the website “Fandom”, there is a humorous explanation of how Dexter came to name his character Morse. 
PBS is re-airing season 7, probably in advance of the airing of the new season!  My DVR holds past recordings, but they are not always available for viewing (depending upon which streaming service they’ve granted temporary rights). I always know when a new season is imminent as the old recordings become available to me again. 

[Daff]

When I first decided to sign in and participate here, it was in this thread. I pointed out that with cc on, some participants questions (doubts) were answered. By the time I was allowed to post, however, the topics had moved on. Since then I’ve had positive reactions over the entire forum, so I’ll offer my observations again. 
Ludo claimed ignorance of the hit and run pickpocket, but he actually saw it all from the balcony. That scene convinced me that the meeting between Endeavour and his wife was planned. 
Also, subsequent discussion following the search of the wife’s apartment revealed that the insurance scam was not the only source of ill-gotten gains for this shady couple. They found document evidence of numerous other scams. 

[Popples]

Series Eight concluded filming last week.

 

[Popples]

Not a definitive date yet, but it's getting closer!

 

[Popples]

Finally, an airdate for the UK, no US, but generally it airs about 4-5 months later. I've been on pins and needles about this!

 

[JudyObscure]

But, but only three episodes. 😃😭

[M. Darcy]

Article in honor of new season (seems to be spoiler free). 

[racked]

He did come off a little unimpressed in that article. But I still love what he does onscreen and I’m excited that he thinks there will be even more seasons to come. 

[ApathyMonger]

Seems an odd idea to air this season opposite another, much buzzier, Shaun Evans show, Vigil.

I completely forgot about the first episode last week as I was watching Vigil.