Farrah

[FairyDusted]

LMAO! How funny to see her big head on screen above the couch. I know it shopped but still funny AF to me!

[Jennifersdc]

2 hours ago, ginger90 said:

An example of what can be done with pictures of children. I get the humor if it, but it does disturb at the same time. I don’t want to even guess what else is out there of this particular child.

Even I don’t think that’s funny.

Can’t believe though that I think pet gremlin  and Mowgli are incredibly witty about an 8-yr old child. I obviously have a well-decorated Handbasket to Hell.

I blame Farrah....

[AirQuotes]

I used to be more partial to calling her farrah' s Talking Tina doll but lately pet gremlin is more accurate. Especially when she scrambles around in the back of a car peeking over the seat growling about not needing a teacher. 

[FairyDusted]

See I can roll with that. I make up the pics in my head. I sure as hell didn't want to see THAT(weird photo) . No matter what child on this show.

[mamadrama]

Farrah is more than just a bitch. Mentally healthy people just do not behave in this manner. We're all capable of being awful people every now and then, but if you videotaped the majority of us during our actions and then we watched said footage, we'd feel appalled. We'd probably try to make changes. Farrah is the opposite. With each new footage of her bitchtrosity it's like she gains more superpowers. And her parents, in their own ways, are worse. 

There are lots of things that I am on Farrah's side about. In many ways I am rooting for her. And I actually applaud her for filming segments that don't involve her sitting around on the couch or moaning about her life all day. Homegirl works and she is VERY hands on. But these histrionics that she's not only capable of but proud of? I just caaannn'ttt. 

[Tatum]

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Michael Abraham @ekimabraham

Worry about your money lol!you don’t have contracts with multiple TV networks,your not a 5 time NY Times best selling author,you don’t have 3 retail business both stores&web that are profitable you dont have business paying you monthly royalties in excess of 5 and 6 figures lol!

In excess of 6 figures? So...seven figures? Monthly? Sure Jan.

[kokapetl]

19 minutes ago, Tatum said:

In excess of 6 figures? So...seven figures? Monthly? Sure Jan.

And that’s just what she earns in royalties! Or perhaps is paid by Saudi royalty. 

[mamadrama]

On 2/24/2018 at 7:45 AM, ginger90 said:

I mean, really, how does Michael know? Maybe that person DOES have all of those things. 

The ego and ignorance are real with this family. 

[Tatum]

10 minutes ago, mamadrama said:

I mean, really, how does Michael know? Maybe that person DOES have all of those things. 

The ego and ignorance are real with this family. 

Well, in Michael's defense, even a 5 figure monthly income would put that person in like the top 10% of personal US incomes. And that's at the bottom of the 5 figure range. 6 or 7 figures monthly? Now we are in 1% territory here. I mean, I think Michael's full of shit about how much money Farrah makes, but he does have more than a 99% chance of being right here about the other person's income potential.

 

By the way Michael, if Farrah was getting $1.2+ million each year just in royalties, I would think Farrah would have told Freeman to shove it the first time they fired her and then asked her back. I mean, isn't TM salaries just chump change compared to what you claim Farrah makes?

 

Also, Michael, "your" is possessive. "You're" means 'you are'.

Edited February 28, 2018 by Tatum

[ghoulina]

12 hours ago, AmandaUnbidden said:

If she wasn't doing porn and denying it, even to herself, I might not worry so much about Sophia. I'm not saying you can't be a good mother if you do porn. But I think in those cases the mom understands boundaries and knows how important it is to clearly separate that kind of work from your life with your child. Farrah does not do that.

Exactly. There's a whole bunch of middle ground between making bodies and sex shameful....and bringing your daughter to porn tape negotiations. 

[mamadrama]

47 minutes ago, ghoulina said:

Exactly. There's a whole bunch of middle ground between making bodies and sex shameful....and bringing your daughter to porn tape negotiations. 

God, you all are going to think that I am so weird but...I earned extra income in college by being an artist's model. I LOVED my job. One of the artists that I worked for had showings all over the country. Nothing sold for less than $5,000 so it was all out of my price range. (Even my pretend price range.) When I finally quit after several years, he gave me a drawing that he had done of me. He used to do several different sketches for his creations, just things he'd use as references. He wound up finishing one as a present for me, and he signed it. It's basically me sitting in a chair in all my glory. (Because I am sitting, you actually can't see that much but it's obvious that I am wearing my birthday suit.) I framed it and it hangs on our bedroom wall. For a while it was at my mom's house. Not only did she have it in the living room, but she proudly hung a light under it to make it glow, ha ha. It was a conversation piece. 

On the other hand...I don't discuss my sexual history with my kids or in front of my kids. My husband and I don't put ourselves in the position (ha ha) that would allow the kids to see us being intimate. (Well, there was this one time we forgot to lock the door but they just thought he was , uh, tickling me. It happens.) 

Farrah has zero boundaries. Zero middle ground. Zero sense of what is appropriate. It's scary. 

[Tatum]

4 minutes ago, mamadrama said:

 

On the other hand...I don't discuss my sexual history with my kids or in front of my kids. My husband and I don't put ourselves in the position (ha ha) that would allow the kids to see us being intimate. (Well, there was this one time we forgot to lock the door but they just thought he was , uh, tickling me. It happens.) 

Farrah has zero boundaries. Zero middle ground. Zero sense of what is appropriate. It's scary. 

I have been caught "wrestling" with daddy once or twice myself. Now that my daughter's 6 I am a little more careful.

[AirQuotes]

7 minutes ago, mamadrama said:

God, you all are going to think that I am so weird but...I earned extra income in college by being an artist's model. I LOVED my job. One of the artists that I worked for had showings all over the country. Nothing sold for less than $5,000 so it was all out of my price range. (Even my pretend price range.) When I finally quit after several years, he gave me a drawing that he had done of me. He used to do several different sketches for his creations, just things he'd use as references. He wound up finishing one as a present for me, and he signed it. It's basically me sitting in a chair in all my glory. (Because I am sitting, you actually can't see that much but it's obvious that I am wearing my birthday suit.) I framed it and it hangs on our bedroom wall. For a while it was at my mom's house. Not only did she have it in the living room, but she proudly hung a light under it to make it glow, ha ha. It was a conversation piece. 

On the other hand...I don't discuss my sexual history with my kids or in front of my kids. My husband and I don't put ourselves in the position (ha ha) that would allow the kids to see us being intimate. (Well, there was this one time we forgot to lock the door but they just thought he was , uh, tickling me. It happens.) 

Farrah has zero boundaries. Zero middle ground. Zero sense of what is appropriate. It's scary. 

I remember you mentioning that before! Great story!  I think it is so cool you had that opportunity to add to the art would.  I seriously admire that.

I don't put nude works of art in the same category as porn.  We have been taking our kids to art museums since they were 8, and I never "censored" or avoided any nudity.   One of my favorite photos of them is framed and prominently displayed in the living room; they are standing at the base of Queen Victoria's copy of Michelangelo's David which is on display at the V&A Museum in London.  David's fig leaf is in a display box on the back of the sculpture's pedestal.  I forget who made the copy, but to appeal to Victorian sensibilities, they made a special fig leaf to cover up David's nether regions when the Queen wanted to view her it.   When it comes to art nothing is off limits and I explain the imagery being displayed if it is a bit over their level.   I love art and art is supposed to surprise you, make you think, invoke discussion, etc.  It is all about the context of the nudity.  I can't recall ever coming across in a museum a painting or any work of art depicting coitus.  The cherubs and centaurs can get on the racy side. lol  

On the other hand, I do not show my children porn.  I'm not a prude and I don't care if people of age look at it.  I can find no cultural value in porn.  Farrah is involved in it and she is exhibiiting hyper-sexuality.  She brings her porno friends around and they exhibit hyper-sexuality.  Sophia is a child and this is destroying her innocence.

This is an example of art that I enjoy and have in my home.  I have this  Franz Lefler, and I love it.  Absolutely love it.  I also have a beautifully framed copy of the Mona Lisa that I picked up for $5 at a flea market.  The guy selling it wanted $50, but he told me if I could name the artist he would sell it to me for $5.  Of course, I knew the artist!

[mamadrama]

20 minutes ago, AirQuotes said:

I remember you mentioning that before! Great story!  I think it is so cool you had that opportunity to add to the art would.  I seriously admire that.

I don't put nude works of art in the same category as porn.  We have been taking our kids to art museums since they were 8, and I never "censored" or avoided any nudity.   One of my favorite photos of them is framed and prominently displayed in the living room; they are standing at the base of Queen Victoria's copy of Michelangelo's David which is on display at the V&A Museum in London.  David's fig leaf is in a display box on the back of the sculpture's pedestal.  I forget who made the copy, but to appeal to Victorian sensibilities, they made a special fig leaf to cover up David's nether regions when the Queen wanted to view her it.   When it comes to art nothing is off limits and I explain the imagery being displayed if it is a bit over their level.   I love art and art is supposed to surprise you, make you think, invoke discussion, etc.  It is all about the context of the nudity.  I can't recall ever coming across in a museum a painting or any work of art depicting coitus.  The cherubs and centaurs can get on the racy side. lol  

On the other hand, I do not show my children porn.  I'm not a prude and I don't care if people of age look at it.  I can find no cultural value in porn.  Farrah is involved in it and she is exhibiiting hyper-sexuality.  She brings her porno friends around and they exhibit hyper-sexuality.  Sophia is a child and this is destroying her innocence.

This is an example of art that I enjoy and have in my home.  I have this  Franz Lefler, and I love it.  Absolutely love it.  I also have a beautifully framed copy of the Mona Lisa that I picked up for $5 at a flea market.  The guy selling it wanted $50, but he told me if I could name the artist he would sell it to me for $5.  Of course, I knew the artist!

Right, they are two totally different things. I was just trying to find an example of how one can be open with certain types of things (nudity in art) while still realizing that there are other things that are totally inappropriate for kids (extreme sexualization). I mean, I don't have a problem with porn (I've watched my fair share, including Farrah's) but I really don't want my kids to aspire to it, ha ha. That's what I don't get about Farrah. She's not just normalizing it. I've seen a lot of porn stars interviewed and they're mostly like, "Yeah, my kids know what I do but I keep those two worlds separate." They're not ashamed of what they do, they just know that it's a tough line of work and that it's not for everyone. 

I LOVE that painting!

[AirQuotes]

3 minutes ago, mamadrama said:

Right, they are two totally different things. I was just trying to find an example of how one can be open with certain types of things (nudity in art) while still realizing that there are other things that are totally inappropriate for kids (extreme sexualization). I mean, I don't have a problem with porn (I've watched my fair share, including Farrah's) but I really don't want my kids to aspire to it, ha ha. That's what I don't get about Farrah. She's not just normalizing it. I've seen a lot of porn stars interviewed and they're mostly like, "Yeah, my kids know what I do but I keep those two worlds separate." They're not ashamed of what they do, they just know that it's a tough line of work and that it's not for everyone. 

I LOVE that painting!

I'm with you.  I totally agree with you!  We are on the same page.

Farrah isn't separating her porn life from her mom life, and it is inappropriate for Sophia.

Edited to add:  I would probably pose nude for students at a fine art academy, but I would never for a second consider doing porn.

Edited February 28, 2018 by AirQuotes

[kokapetl]

Nudity and porn are different things. I hope Farrah knows that. 

[ReadMeLattice]

2 hours ago, mamadrama said:

Right, they are two totally different things. I was just trying to find an example of how one can be open with certain types of things (nudity in art) while still realizing that there are other things that are totally inappropriate for kids (extreme sexualization). I mean, I don't have a problem with porn (I've watched my fair share, including Farrah's) but I really don't want my kids to aspire to it, ha ha. That's what I don't get about Farrah. She's not just normalizing it. I've seen a lot of porn stars interviewed and they're mostly like, "Yeah, my kids know what I do but I keep those two worlds separate." They're not ashamed of what they do, they just know that it's a tough line of work and that it's not for everyone. 

I LOVE that painting!

This. I think the denial of it is much worse than saying you do it, and is a sign that the way Farrah is approaching it isn't healthy. I've personally known some legal sex workers (one who did mainstream porn, one who was a nude model for Playboy-esque mags) when I lived on the West Coast. The ones I knew were in grad school and doing it temporarily for the money, so frankly I don't know about the industry as a whole (obviously if you're in grad school that tends to be a different demographic than people walking the street/essentially being human trafficked). If anything they had VERY strict boundaries because they didn't want their kids to be negatively affected by anything. They enjoyed what they did, it was flexible, and they didn't seem bothered by it at all, but they also seemed to be very risk-aware. Farrah seems to be somehow unaware that she does porn, or unwilling to admit it, which means that she can't be open or appropriate about her boundaries or think critically about it and how to integrate or separate her work and home lives with any degree of maturity.

Edited February 28, 2018 by Lm2162

[poeticlicensed]

1 hour ago, Kokapetl said:

Nudity and porn are different things. I hope Farrah knows that. 

I'm sure down deep she does. But equivocating the two fits her narrative. 

[Jennifersdc]

5 hours ago, Tatum said:

Well, in Michael's defense, even a 5 figure monthly income would put that person in like the top 10% of personal US incomes. And that's at the bottom of the 5 figure range. 6 or 7 figures monthly? Now we are in 1% territory here. I mean, I think Michael's full of shit about how much money Farrah makes, but he does have more than a 99% chance of being right here about the other person's income potential.

 

By the way Michael, if Farrah was getting $1.2+ million each year just in royalties, I would think Farrah would have told Freeman to shove it the first time they fired her and then asked her back. I mean, isn't TM salaries just chump change compared to what you claim Farrah makes?

 

Also, Michael, "your" is possessive. "You're" means 'you are'.

Michael needs to elaborate where this bevy of “royalties” riches come from.

Her five year old book, her music (she deserves every penny), or her vagina mold? Combination thereof?

[Bridget]

16 hours ago, AirQuotes said:

I used to be more partial to calling her farrah' s Talking Tina doll but lately pet gremlin is more accurate. Especially when she scrambles around in the back of a car peeking over the seat growling about not needing a teacher. 

I was watching that part and thinking about the time Farrah told Sophia she "wasn't allowed to hide from Grandpa and Amy" when she went to work in the UK.

WTF is with this kid and hiding? I'm dying to go straight to Occam's Razor on this one, but that seems too obvious.

I know some younger kids go through a "hiding in the clothing racks at a store" phase, but what's with Sophia's obsession with hiding from everyone? Has she never been told about stranger danger? Assuming she initially began hiding from Farrah, did Farrah not explain to Mowgli how horrifying it is for a parent to have their kid be missing? Did Farrah explain it's dangerous to hide from people and what could possibly happen? Since Mowgli had to be reminded not to hide, I can only assume it's a regular occurrence between the two of them. Either Farrah thinks it's OK to do or Sophia wasn't/hasn't ever punished for not listening to her mother.

I got lost in the mall when I was six years old and to this day, I can still recall the look on my mom's face when a security guard found me and brought me back to her. (I wasn't pulling a Mowgli; I went to sit down on a bench instead of standing in a checkout line with my mom. I went back into the store to see what was taking so long, but she had already paid, so we can only assume that we were two ships passing in the night.) Whenever she tells that story, her tone is always the same as it was on the day it happened. I still remember how scared I was and would've given anything to find my mom. I kept checking the parking lot and saw our car through the glass doors, so I knew she hadn't left me. 

[ReadMeLattice]

7 hours ago, Tatum said:

In excess of 6 figures? So...seven figures? Monthly? Sure Jan.

Yeah, he has those weird speech patterns like Farrah does. Things meant to sound profound or fancy but that don't make any sense. 

I swear, I used to feel for Farrah's parents a little bit in the beginning. But with Debz OG's famethirsty wedding and rap career, and Michael's adamant defense of Farrah so he can keep the gravy train coming...I'm not feeling that generous towards them anymore.

[ginger90]

[TheRealT]

On 2/27/2018 at 3:07 PM, Jennifersdc said:

Deb and Michael seemed to have a perfectly fine upper-middle class lifestyle. They’ve apparently thrown it all to the wind to be hangers on to their daughter’s train wreck. What does Michael do for a living? Does Deb’s frequently touted (by her) “Executive MBA” help with her “gangsta rap” career?

That is weird. In the early TM years, Deb, EMBA and Michael seemed to be doing well financially. Didn't they both have good corporate jobs? And I vaguely recall something about their house being an historic landmark and worth a fair amount (I think Deb, EMBA lied about the value at some point and people looked it up and found it was worth a lot, but not as much as she said), and didn't they own a rental property across the street from their house? Then they split up (I think during a break from the show) and Michael resurfaced living in Farrah's house in TX, apparently at least somewhat financially dependent on her, and Deb, EMBA seemed to have plenty of time to spend in TX and even was going to move there at one point (I think?). And Farrah has said that she's given both of them money and both Michael and Farrah have accused Deb, EMBA of stealing money from Farrah/using Farrah for money/something shady with Farrah's money.

What happened? Did they both lose their jobs in IA/NB? Did they go through some other financial crisis? Was it all a charade for the cameras from the beginning?

[Mr. Miner]

16 hours ago, ginger90 said:

STFU! Michael and go do your daughter's laundry. When you're done with that you can go pick up all of the horseshit in the backyard.

Edited March 1, 2018 by Mr. Minor

[FairyDusted]

Well they did divorce but Deb got those two properties IIRC. Might have not been enough saving to split and live off though. 

[charmed1]

3 hours ago, Bridget said:

I got lost in the mall when I was six years old and to this day, I can still recall the look on my mom's face when a security guard found me and brought me back to her. (I wasn't pulling a Mowgli; I went to sit down on a bench instead of standing in a checkout line with my mom. I went back into the store to see what was taking so long, but she had already paid, so we can only assume that we were two ships passing in the night.) Whenever she tells that story, her tone is always the same as it was on the day it happened. I still remember how scared I was and would've given anything to find my mom. I kept checking the parking lot and saw our car through the glass doors, so I knew she hadn't left me. 

I used to do the hiding in clothing racks thing, then I turned five. I was constantly getting lost in stores and malls because there were very important toys to be looked at and I couldn’t be bothered by my mom’s need to look at clothing and appliances. And then the Adam Walsh movie and Punky Brewster scarred me for life, and I was convinced my mom was going to abandon me in the mall, and I’d be homeless, wearing mismatched shoes and forced to live with some crotchety old bastard in a dilapidated building. The 80s were terrifying.

Sophia’s an only child. I get it. Only children are weird as hell. No offense if you’ve only got one kid. I’m an only child too, so I can say with authority, your kid’s a weirdo. They’ll grow out of it though. Their vocabulary is more developed because they’re around adults all the time and they’re usually voracious readers. Sharing is a mostly foreign concept. They put on little plays or weird voices because they’re so often their own playmate. It forces a vivid imagination. That’s not to say only kids don’t have friends. I had friends and a million cousins, but at some point they got on my nerves. Parents of only children often hear the line, “Mommy, I’m bored!” Hence, the plays and books. Sophia strikes me as a child who spends a lot of time in boredom.

But Sophia is beyond only child weird. She’s a creep. And that’s not her fault. Her mother is a vile piece of shit with no boundaries and has Sophia far too involved in adult conversations. Those conversations are inappropriate to begin with. If I was nine years old, Sophia would not be a kid I’d be friends with. And I’ve always been drawn to the “different” kids. Even to this day. But my mother wouldn’t have allowed me to be friends with her anyway. A grown acting little girl who wears makeup and a mother who allows her to do whatever the hell she wants. Yeah no. Sophia would be like a very inappropriate Pippy Longstocking. Hopefully, now that Farrah’s gotten her pink slip, Sophia will have the semblance of a normal life.

Edited February 28, 2018 by charmed1

[TimeToCancelTM]

On 2/26/2018 at 11:05 AM, FairyDusted said:

Well I've seen her try to pack a suitcase, badly.

Omg the suitcase packing!!! I forgot about that... god im going to miss this bat shit crazy ass bitch!

[FairyDusted]

Bags are easier apparently lol

[AirQuotes]

2 hours ago, charmed1 said:

I used to do the hiding in clothing racks thing, then I turned five. I was constantly getting lost in stores and malls because there were very important toys to be looked at and I couldn’t be bothered by my mom’s need to look at clothing and appliances. And then the Adam Walsh movie and Punky Brewster scarred me for life, and I was convinced my mom was going to abandon me in the mall, and I’d be homeless, wearing mismatched shoes and forced to live with some crotchety old bastard in a dilapidated building. The 80s were terrifying.

Sophia’s an only child. I get it. Only children are weird as hell. No offense if you’ve only got one kid. I’m an only child too, so I can say with authority, your kid’s a weirdo. They’ll grow out of it though. Their vocabulary is more developed because they’re around adults all the time and they’re usually voracious readers. Sharing is a mostly foreign concept. They put on little plays or weird voices because they’re so often their own playmate. It forces a vivid imagination. That’s not to say only kids don’t have friends. I had friends and a million cousins, but at some point they got on my nerves. Parents of only children often hear the line, “Mommy, I’m bored!” Hence, the plays and books. Sophia strikes me as a child who spends a lot of time in boredom.

But Sophia is beyond only child weird. She’s a creep. And that’s not her fault. Her mother is a vile piece of shit with no boundaries and has Sophia far too involved in adult conversations. Those conversations are inappropriate to begin with. If I was nine years old, Sophia would not be a kid I’d be friends with. And I’ve always been drawn to the “different” kids. Even to this day. But my mother wouldn’t have allowed me to be friends with her anyway. A grown acting little girl who wears makeup and a mother who allows her to do whatever the hell she wants. Yeah no. Sophia would be like a very inappropriate Pippy Longstocking. Hopefully, now that Farrah’s gotten her pink slip, Sophia will have the semblance of a normal life.

 

Your imagery in the first paragraph is amazing.  Well done!

 

3 hours ago, TheRealT said:

That is weird. In the early TM years, Deb, EMBA and Michael seemed to be doing well financially. Didn't they both have good corporate jobs? And I vaguely recall something about their house being an historic landmark and worth a fair amount (I think Deb, EMBA lied about the value at some point and people looked it up and found it was worth a lot, but not as much as she said), and didn't they own a rental property across the street from their house? Then they split up (I think during a break from the show) and Michael resurfaced living in Farrah's house in TX, apparently at least somewhat financially dependent on her, and Deb, EMBA seemed to have plenty of time to spend in TX and even was going to move there at one point (I think?). And Farrah has said that she's given both of them money and both Michael and Farrah have accused Deb, EMBA of stealing money from Farrah/using Farrah for money/something shady with Farrah's money.

What happened? Did they both lose their jobs in IA/NB? Did they go through some other financial crisis? Was it all a charade for the cameras from the beginning?

Could it be the divorce wiped them out?  Divorce is expensive!  If Deb had to buy Michael out of the house and rental property then that could have wiped out her cash on hand or caused her to take out an additional mortgage.

Could Deb have been fired when the slapping Farrah stuff happened?  I'm wondering out loud.  I have not idea, but it's possible.  But as weird as they all are now, it is most likely they were putting on one big charade.

Two couples we know are going through divorces, and divorce is horrible.  One couple their daughter was my twins' best friend.  The mom took the kids and left the dad.  They lived in a 4 br/3ba house in a nice neighborhood near us.  She took the 3 kids 4 hours away to move in with her parents.  They are all crammed into a 3 br single wide trailer.  The dad moved down there to be close to them and he can't even afford an apt.  He is couch surfing.  Their house here has been foreclosed on.  It is a horrible situation.  They seemed to be coasting along just fine until the split and now they don't even have a pot to piss in.

The other couple we know have more money but when the wife tells me everything the soon to be ex-husband has to pay her I'm stunned.  He is having to take out loans to pay her off.

I told my husband I'm glad we are happy because we can't afford to divorce! lol

Edited March 1, 2018 by AirQuotes

[Bridget]

4 hours ago, charmed1 said:

I used to do the hiding in clothing racks thing, then I turned five. I was constantly getting lost in stores and malls because there were very important toys to be looked at and I couldn’t be bothered by my mom’s need to look at clothing and appliances. And then the Adam Walsh movie and Punky Brewster scarred me for life, and I was convinced my mom was going to abandon me in the mall, and I’d be homeless, wearing mismatched shoes and forced to live with some crotchety old bastard in a dilapidated building. The 80s were terrifying.

Sophia’s an only child. I get it. Only children are weird as hell. No offense if you’ve only got one kid. I’m an only child too, so I can say with authority, your kid’s a weirdo. They’ll grow out of it though. Their vocabulary is more developed because they’re around adults all the time and they’re usually voracious readers. Sharing is a mostly foreign concept. They put on little plays or weird voices because they’re so often their own playmate. It forces a vivid imagination. That’s not to say only kids don’t have friends. I had friends and a million cousins, but at some point they got on my nerves. Parents of only children often hear the line, “Mommy, I’m bored!” Hence, the plays and books. Sophia strikes me as a child who spends a lot of time in boredom.

But Sophia is beyond only child weird. She’s a creep. And that’s not her fault. Her mother is a vile piece of shit with no boundaries and has Sophia far too involved in adult conversations. Those conversations are inappropriate to begin with. If I was nine years old, Sophia would not be a kid I’d be friends with. And I’ve always been drawn to the “different” kids. Even to this day. But my mother wouldn’t have allowed me to be friends with her anyway. A grown acting little girl who wears makeup and a mother who allows her to do whatever the hell she wants. Yeah no. Sophia would be like a very inappropriate Pippy Longstocking. Hopefully, now that Farrah’s gotten her pink slip, Sophia will have the semblance of a normal life.

I was trying so hard to work those in somehow! Thank you for doing so!I  feel like Farrah should have Sophia watch the Adam Walsh TV movie along with any kidnapping segments of "America's Most Wanted."  Henry Warnimont might be a better guardian than Farrah, so she probably wouldn't let her watch Punky Brewster.

Also, you were four when you his in the racks; Sophia is more than double that age. She is too old to be doing that crap, not to mention it's straight up dangerous 

[teapot]

16 hours ago, charmed1 said:

I used to do the hiding in clothing racks thing, then I turned five. I was constantly getting lost in stores and malls because there were very important toys to be looked at and I couldn’t be bothered by my mom’s need to look at clothing and appliances. And then the Adam Walsh movie and Punky Brewster scarred me for life, and I was convinced my mom was going to abandon me in the mall, and I’d be homeless, wearing mismatched shoes and forced to live with some crotchety old bastard in a dilapidated building. The 80s were terrifying.

Sophia’s an only child. I get it. Only children are weird as hell. No offense if you’ve only got one kid. I’m an only child too, so I can say with authority, your kid’s a weirdo. They’ll grow out of it though. Their vocabulary is more developed because they’re around adults all the time and they’re usually voracious readers. Sharing is a mostly foreign concept. They put on little plays or weird voices because they’re so often their own playmate. It forces a vivid imagination. That’s not to say only kids don’t have friends. I had friends and a million cousins, but at some point they got on my nerves. Parents of only children often hear the line, “Mommy, I’m bored!” Hence, the plays and books. Sophia strikes me as a child who spends a lot of time in boredom.

 Hopefully, now that Farrah’s gotten her pink slip, Sophia will have the semblance of a normal life.

I have an only child who's grown up now.  He was a great sharer, b/c whenever anyone was over, he was just so fucking happy to have someone to play with, he'd do anything for them!  But he always related far more to adults than children.  He'd tell me that in college he'd have to go outside to just "be quiet for a minute."

I'm afraid that the lack of filming will make Sophia's life less normal, actually.  There's no school, no friends her own age.  She was whisked off to the Beverly Hills hotel for her ninth birthday instead of having lunch at the American Girl store w/her friends or something.  She goes to lunch w/mom and her porn-star friends. Homegirl is basically fucked.

[Jax7917]

well Farrah was fired and now David Eason from TM2.... hope this trend keeps continuing.

I feel that any of the girls who refuse to talk about certain story lines or refuse to let the producers in or film them, should be fired. These producers need to stop letting the tails wag the dogs.

Edited March 1, 2018 by Jaclyn88

[gunderda]

On 2/24/2018 at 11:28 AM, FairyDusted said:

Wait….She takes photos on her phone?!!! I'm no prude but I'm all for a baby bath but Sophia is 9! My daughter had her period by then. Weirdos

Bellvue or Rickers?

 

On 2/24/2018 at 1:31 PM, AmyFarrahFowler said:

Or own any naked pics of their child for any reason. That poor kid.

Is this not an omission that she has child porn on her phone...? Or does it not work like that if its your own kid???? 

 

On 2/27/2018 at 11:26 AM, MistyMeg said:

I have to say that I too believe there is something "strange"  about this relationship...I can only think of 2 things..both of which may be completely wrong!!

1..Has Michael in some way been the abuser and is keeping Farrah "sweet" to stay silent?

2.  Doing what he has to do to stay in the show for the money! 

You're not alone.. I find his responses very creepy at times... I don't know why any father would protect his daughter's porn career.  And he'll retweet photos of her in her lingerie and stuff.... which maybe that's no different than victoria secret models... but i dunno.. it comes across as REALLY creepy.

On 2/28/2018 at 7:27 AM, Tatum said:

 

By the way Michael, if Farrah was getting $1.2+ million each year just in royalties, I would think Farrah would have told Freeman to shove it the first time they fired her and then asked her back. I mean, isn't TM salaries just chump change compared to what you claim Farrah makes?

Exactly. And she doesn't seem to enjoy filming AT ALL so I don't why it's a big deal to her. 

19 hours ago, TheRealT said:

That is weird. In the early TM years, Deb, EMBA and Michael seemed to be doing well financially. Didn't they both have good corporate jobs? And I vaguely recall something about their house being an historic landmark and worth a fair amount (I think Deb, EMBA lied about the value at some point and people looked it up and found it was worth a lot, but not as much as she said), and didn't they own a rental property across the street from their house? Then they split up (I think during a break from the show) and Michael resurfaced living in Farrah's house in TX, apparently at least somewhat financially dependent on her, and Deb, EMBA seemed to have plenty of time to spend in TX and even was going to move there at one point (I think?). And Farrah has said that she's given both of them money and both Michael and Farrah have accused Deb, EMBA of stealing money from Farrah/using Farrah for money/something shady with Farrah's money.

What happened? Did they both lose their jobs in IA/NB? Did they go through some other financial crisis? Was it all a charade for the cameras from the beginning?

And didn't Deb move to Seattle or somewhere in Washington for awhile?? I feel like that's where she was always flying back and forth to Texas from.

[Snarky McSnarky]

19 hours ago, TheRealT said:

That is weird. In the early TM years, Deb, EMBA and Michael seemed to be doing well financially. Didn't they both have good corporate jobs? And I vaguely recall something about their house being an historic landmark and worth a fair amount (I think Deb, EMBA lied about the value at some point and people looked it up and found it was worth a lot, but not as much as she said), and didn't they own a rental property across the street from their house? Then they split up (I think during a break from the show) and Michael resurfaced living in Farrah's house in TX, apparently at least somewhat financially dependent on her, and Deb, EMBA seemed to have plenty of time to spend in TX and even was going to move there at one point (I think?). And Farrah has said that she's given both of them money and both Michael and Farrah have accused Deb, EMBA of stealing money from Farrah/using Farrah for money/something shady with Farrah's money.

What happened? Did they both lose their jobs in IA/NB? Did they go through some other financial crisis? Was it all a charade for the cameras from the beginning?

Michael moved to Austin first.  Then Farrah and Debra EMBA got into a fight while living together in Council Bluffs, and Farrah moved to Austin.  She knew she had a built-in babysitter with Michael.

[druzy]

 Defendants, Anxious Eleven, LLC, Eleventh Street Productions, Inc., Morgan J. Freeman, New Remote Productions, Inc. and Viacom, have 30 or 60 (?) days to respond. This is the current status of the lawsuit:

 

[TexasGal]

I went snooping on the attorney, and apparently he has represented her before:

http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/all-rise/2013/07/drawing-on-clinic-experience-in-his-career/

(In case anyone is curious, appearing pro hac vice means he is not licensed to practice in Texas but they will allow him to for this case.)

[FairyDusted]

Well here comes this circus! 

[StatisticalOutlier]

Farrah's asking for a jury trial! 

Surely, surely, surely this is just what's done in every case, subject to rescinding it later.  I know Farrah would think it's an excellent idea, but her lawyer?  Has he MET her? 

[Jennifersdc]

57 minutes ago, TexasGal said:

I went snooping on the attorney, and apparently he has represented her before:

http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/all-rise/2013/07/drawing-on-clinic-experience-in-his-career/

(In case anyone is curious, appearing pro hac vice means he is not licensed to practice in Texas but they will allow him to for this case.)

Not even a labor lawyer. His website is a Facebook page. This is awesome. 

Good luck Farrah!

[ginger90]

1 hour ago, Jennifersdc said:

Not even a labor lawyer. His website is a Facebook page. This is awesome. 

Good luck Farrah!

Can one be verified on Facebook? ?

[Jennifersdc]

1 hour ago, ginger90 said:

Can one be verified on Facebook? ?

IDK - but I did read the attached profile from Ohio State alumni. Apparently his major client is his mother. Reported “offices” in Chicago and San Francisco don’t exist. The other guy mentioned works for an entirely different firm.

I’m dying...

[mamadrama]

1 hour ago, ginger90 said:

Can one be verified on Facebook? ?

Yes, you can have a FB page verified. 

[ginger90]

47 minutes ago, mamadrama said:

Yes, you can have a FB page verified. 

I guess he would pass Amber’s test.

[monicageller]

2 hours ago, ginger90 said:

Can one be verified on Facebook? ?

Only if you're vying for a baby daddy. Not sure if it works for lawyers.

[StatisticalOutlier]

3 hours ago, Jennifersdc said:

Not even a labor lawyer. His website is a Facebook page. This is awesome.

Here's an internet archive snapshot of his firm's website, from 2016:

https://web.archive.org/web/20160721085239/http://www.cambaclaw.com/our-people/avonte-campinha-bacote

Farrah's lawsuit isn't his first gender discrimination case, although I'll note that in the one I found (plaintiff was a pilot), the judge said, "As was evident at times by the lawyering of plaintiff’s counsel in this case, plaintiff’s litigation team had very little trial experience.  While counsel achieved an excellent result for their client, defendants should not have to pay a premium for plaintiff’s counsel’s learning curve." 

 

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Reported “offices” in Chicago and San Francisco don’t exist.

The San Francisco office may not exist now, but six months ago, the Federal Trade Commission used a Pacifica, California (just outside SF) address for him in a letter addressed to Farrah.

Actually, that's the damnedest document--a compilation of letters the FTC sent warning instagram influencers about disclosing if they have a "material connection" to the product they're endorsing.  I thought it was a free-for-all out there, but it looks like there are some rules?  Anyway, here's the document:

https://www.ftc.gov/system/files/documents/foia_requests/all_of_the_signed_letters.pdf

Farrah's is the first letter, followed by other letters to a bunch of people I've never heard of, but also to some I have:  Sofia Vergara, Naomi Campbell, JWoww, Lisa Rinna, Scott Disick (but not an actual Kardashian, interestingly enough, because aren't they the queens of paid endorsements?), and Chelsea Houska.

[teapot]

guys, does "gender discrimination" mean what Farrah thinks it means?  I have never understood that phrase to mean, "don't do porn."  very confused here.

[TexasGal]

13 hours ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

Actually, that's the damnedest document--a compilation of letters the FTC sent warning instagram influencers about disclosing if they have a "material connection" to the product they're endorsing.  I thought it was a free-for-all out there, but it looks like there are some rules?  Anyway, here's the document:

https://www.ftc.gov/system/files/documents/foia_requests/all_of_the_signed_letters.pdf

Farrah's is the first letter, followed by other letters to a bunch of people I've never heard of, but also to some I have:  Sofia Vergara, Naomi Campbell, JWoww, Lisa Rinna, Scott Disick (but not an actual Kardashian, interestingly enough, because aren't they the queens of paid endorsements?), and Chelsea Houska.

Slightly OT but...yeah, there are FTC rules.  In my past job (in house attorney) I worked a lot with the marketing team and had to remind them that anyone who was being compensated for endorsement, even with free product, had to disclose that in postings.   Any kind of postings, including social media.  They didn't like it very much, especially where there are character limitations, but thems the rules.  

[teapot]

http://www.eonline.com/news/917501/everything-we-know-about-farrah-abraham-s-new-boyfriend-aden-stay

 

so...she thinks he's a controlling asshole & if she ever gets pregnant, she'll keep it from him?  (as you all know, the DD revisionist history makes me STABBY!)

also...he has daughters?  that mom needs to get those girls on a plane to Tibet ASAP, never to be seen or heard from again!

Edited March 2, 2018 by teapot

[Jennifersdc]

42 minutes ago, TexasGal said:

Slightly OT but...yeah, there are FTC rules.  In my past job (in house attorney) I worked a lot with the marketing team and had to remind them that anyone who was being compensated for endorsement, even with free product, had to disclose that in postings.   Any kind of postings, including social media.  They didn't like it very much, especially where there are character limitations, but thems the rules.  

I read an article about that in the Washington Post awhile ago. Apparently the FTC sent out a bunch of letters to celebrity hucksters re their Twitter/Instagram endorsements. 

I’m sure Farrah ignored it.

Where will we now all get our knowledge about the wonders of Flat Tummy Tea....

[Snarky McSnarky]

1 hour ago, teapot said:

http://www.eonline.com/news/917501/everything-we-know-about-farrah-abraham-s-new-boyfriend-aden-stay

 

so...she thinks he's a controlling asshole & if she ever gets pregnant, she'll keep it from him?  (as you all know, the DD revisionist history makes me STABBY!)

also...he has daughters?  that mom needs to get those girls on a plane to Tibet ASAP, never to be seen or heard from again!

 "We're a great team and power couple."

OK Farrah, whatever you say.  Did you have lunch with George and Amal Clooney while you were in Beverly Hills looking at houses you can't possibly afford?