Season 20: Live Feed Discussion

[PhoneCop]

5 minutes ago, green said:

What is "B'rer" and what is being said.  I don't understand a word of this.  Sorry, I'm totally confused.

It's a reference to the Br'er Rabbit story and specifically the use of reverse psychology therein. Like, "Oh, please don't do this thing I totally want you to do in actuality, please please please don't...sucker."

[green]

37 minutes ago, PhoneCop said:

It's a reference to the Br'er Rabbit story and specifically the use of reverse psychology therein. Like, "Oh, please don't do this thing I totally want you to do in actuality, please please please don't...sucker."

Thanks.  But now a second question.  Who was Tyler trying to play?  Who were the people in the room?  I mean the original post is just kind of hanging in outer space with no context whatsoever.

[Summerday]

51 minutes ago, green said:

Thanks.  But now a second question.  Who was Tyler trying to play?  Who were the people in the room?  I mean the original post is just kind of hanging in outer space with no context whatsoever.

It was a comment about JC, Brett and Sam possibly flipping and voting out Hayleigh. That poster believes that Tyler actually wants Hayleigh out but has to pretend to want Scottie out because that's what Angela and Kaycee want. (IMO, Tyler wants Scottie out.)

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Scottie is so damn weird. Seriously strange. His shaky, high-pitched voice makes my ears bleed and his conversational skills are so bad…it’s hard to describe, like he talks when it’s his turn to listen and what he says is rarely related to what was just said to him. And then he just spouts random nonsensical shiz whenever. And he’s bad at the game. He’s just annoying.

[Dewey Decimate]

37 minutes ago, Summerday said:

Scottie is so damn weird. Seriously strange. His shaky, high-pitched voice makes my ears bleed and his conversational skills are so bad…it’s hard to describe, like he talks when it’s his turn to listen and what he says is rarely related to what was just said to him. And then he just spouts random nonsensical shiz whenever. And he’s bad at the game. He’s just annoying.

Yes, part of me feels bad for him, but goddamn he's so awkward. And this may just be a personal peeve, but with that often super-prominently-displayed cross around his neck I feel like he should be hawking pillows on late night tv.

[Ceeg]

All this talk of getting out Angela next will be moot bc JC, Sam, and Brett ain’t gonna win HOH. Unless it’s a crapshoot and they get lucky. But if it’s a questions comp, I don’t think they have a shot. 

I also don’t conpletely buy that Brett would take a shot yet. We’ll see though. I’m #TeamGoodFeeds as long as Tyler is safe. 

Edited September 6, 2018 by Ceeg

[Brian Cronin]

3 hours ago, Summerday said:

It was a comment about JC, Brett and Sam possibly flipping and voting out Hayleigh. That poster believes that Tyler actually wants Hayleigh out but has to pretend to want Scottie out because that's what Angela and Kaycee want. (IMO, Tyler wants Scottie out.)

I think he wants Haleigh out, but what I was surprised by last night is that he clearly wants Angela and Kaycee protected MORE than he wants Haleigh out. So when he realized that Scottie staying would possibly put Angela and Kaycee at risk (creating a possibly four-person group of JC/Brett/Sam/Scottie who were after Angela/Kaycee), he quickly nipped that idea in the bud. It's surprising to me just how much he wants his ideal Final Three of Kaycee and either Angela or Sam protected.

I also think that now that Brett and JC have put the idea out there that they were willing to go against "the group" and vote out Haleigh, that Tyler knows that Angela and Kaycee aren't just going to forget that, so whether Haleigh stays or not (I could see Brett and JC possibly still flipping and doing it - Sam is going to vote Haleigh out no matter what), it sets up a Brett and JC vs. Angela and Kaycee future matchup, a matchup that nicely keeps the focus off of Tyler. So I think he's content whoever goes at this time, but he'd prefer it be Scottie now to keep Angela and Kaycee protected better. 

By the way, this also gives Tyler a lot of ammunition to possibly even sell Haleigh on putting up JC with Sam if she were to stay and win HOH. Dude WAS just trying HARD to get her out, ya know?

[laurakaye]

8 hours ago, Brian Cronin said:

How in the fuck did they cut Haleigh and Scottie's "better than Brett" speeches?!?

Gah!  Where can I find this?  I can't keep up with the good stuff anymore.

[Auntie Velvet]

5 hours ago, green said:

Thanks.  But now a second question.  Who was Tyler trying to play?  Who were the people in the room?  I mean the original post is just kind of hanging in outer space with no context whatsoever.

I feel like none of this is unclear. No good quip goes unpunished. 

Edited September 6, 2018 by Auntie Velvet

[Brian Cronin]

42 minutes ago, laurakaye said:

Gah!  Where can I find this?  I can't keep up with the good stuff anymore.

They don't show the Veto speeches on the feeds, we just hear them talk about them later. This time, though, Haleigh and Scottie apparently made fun speeches that the show edited around for some reason (time, I guess, but then cut some of the Tangela stuff if you were short on time in the episode!).

[peachmangosteen]

11 hours ago, mooses said:

Maybe Scottie talking about how much the Jury hates Angela is making the decision harder, but from his perspective, he could also be worried the Jury would see Angela as a strong, cut-throat who controlled the game and give her the win while Kaycee has mostly hung back and not been as out-there with the strategy part of her game (even though it's there). 

Ah, good point. I mean I don't think there's a chance in hell Angela wins, but I can certainly see why Tyler would be more worried about her than Kaycee. Well, kinda. 

11 hours ago, Brian Cronin said:

By the way, peach, how do you not appreciate that we have a female HG in a showmance with a dude and she would totally cut him? That's rarefied air there!

Ugh, I would love this. I don't think it's gonna get the chance to happen though. I'm thinking Angela will be gone before F3. But I want her to be able to pull a Jon Pardy and cut Tyler at F3 so badly. I would laugh for days! Although then fucking Kaycee would probably win, which would really chap my hide, so it's a bit of a catch-22.

[gunderda]

9 hours ago, Brian Cronin said:

How in the fuck did they cut Haleigh and Scottie's "better than Brett" speeches?!?

That was lame! For once I was looking forward to the veto speeches.  Someone start a petition! ;)

And what was up with Kaycee ragging on Sam and then saying how much she cares for Haleigh when she was JUST telling L6 how much she hates Haleigh and think she's fake. When they showed that scene with Haleigh wanting to sleep in the blue room I was waiting for a Haleigh venting session in the DR because Kaycee was annoyed about that whole thing (however I didn't know she actually told Haleigh she could sleep with her) and it turned into a I feel sorry for Haleigh love fest. 

8 hours ago, missyb said:

Who is JC talking about sloppy drunk already and crawling up there later? Making his work harder? Hay or Angela? Is he afraid Tyler will be swayed to keep Hay? he doesn't even vote. 
Says I dont care about the alcohol ( but he really does, a lot!).

ETA: nevermind found this;

Big Brother Daily‏ @BB_Updates 4m4 minutes ago

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JC told Brett he isnt upset about not getting to drink the alcohol. He said he is concerned because Angela is a sloppy drunk and now she will be up in the HoH with Tyler until 6 AM, and then it creates more work for them after she fills Tyler's head with things #BB20

JC is so delusional.... add to the montages we need... one of JC saying he's doing everything and then clips of everyone doing it anyways before it was his idea.  Now I will give him Scottie's first eviction, that was pretty brilliant. 

[Vixenstud]

19 minutes ago, gunderda said:

And what was up with Kaycee ragging on Sam and then saying how much she cares for Haleigh when she was JUST telling L6 how much she hates Haleigh and think she's fake.

Ya know?  I yelled 'That's rich, coming from your fake ass!' at the screen when she had the audacity to say that bullshiggity.  Can't stand her at all, and if I hear 'Let's go!' one more time......

[missyb]

I just started watching some of the feeds I missed due to needing some sleep. 
About 12:54am in the HOH, Tyler is telling Angela she needs to be careful what she says about Brett in front of JC. If JC gets to Brett before she explains she is saying it to avoid the appearance of working together, it may be too late. 
Sure enough, I read that later, JC tells Brett that Angela was talking mad crap about him in the HOH. 
JC is very good at keeping the sides going at each other, while always maintaining the appearance of neutrality.

[Lady Calypso]

7 hours ago, Summerday said:

Oh, OK thanks!

I can't decide who's the bigger princess, Brett for getting pissed off over a light hearted prank or Hayleigh for crying cuz big bad Brett wasn't being super duper nice.

At least something interesting's happening...

To be fair, Brett's usually pretty chill about things...besides this Tangela thing, that's gotten him up in arms. So for Brett to get pissed off about a prank, I could just see it as him being in a rare bad mood. If he always got upset (like Bayleigh or Rockstar, for example) then I'd agree with the princess comment. But since he's usually pretty cool about things and mostly holds back from confrontation about silly things, I'll give him a pass.

3 hours ago, Ceeg said:

All this talk of getting out Angela next will be moot bc JC, Sam, and Brett ain’t gonna win HOH. Unless it’s a crapshoot and they get lucky. But if it’s a questions comp, I don’t think they have a shot. 

I also don’t conpletely buy that Brett would take a shot yet. We’ll see though. I’m #TeamGoodFeeds as long as Tyler is safe. 

Yeah, Brett or JC would definitely have to win. I think, if Haleigh did leave tonight, then Sam would also likely put up Kaycee/Angela, so Brett needs to realize that they need to make sure JC for sure votes Haleigh out. We know Sam will gladly vote out Haleigh, so JC's the only swing vote here. 

I'd love for Brett to be serious about keeping Scottie, but I am positive he won't make the shot tonight to flip. 

Tonight, I'm kind of hoping for a Haleigh win. Mostly for Team Good Feeds and seeing Tyler not get what he really wants. He'll still be in a good position and in the house, but I would like to see who really does end up going: Sam? JC? Angela? Those are the three likely options, at the moment. 

[RandomWatcher]

They really need to get rid of JC sooner rather than later

/Also, just saw on Instagram that Jeff and Jordan are at the hospital about to have their second kid.

[RagePaige]

I think its 50/50 odds that Brett flipping benefits him.  It matters entirely on who wins the next HOH which you can't predict. Best case scenario JC wins HOH after Brett evicts Scottie.  Worst case scenario Brett votes to evict Scottie (Sam doesn't flip) and Angela wins HOH.  Either way I don't think its game ending for Brett but it could put him in a rough spot.

 

Also Haliegh + Alcohol = Downfall of her game.  Every. Single. Week.

Edited September 6, 2018 by RagePaige

[gunderda]

I hope Brett discovers he's low on the totem pole with L6 so he might as well make things interesting and flip if it gets out Angela or Kaycee

[RagePaige]

2 minutes ago, gunderda said:

I hope Brett discovers he's low on the totem pole with L6 so he might as well make things interesting and flip if it gets out Angela or Kaycee

He is very very aware of it right now.  He is trying to figure out the best way to shake up the game right now.  The problem is that he thinks Angela is the core of L6 when it is really Tyler.

[Wings]

14 minutes ago, RagePaige said:

He is very very aware of it right now.  He is trying to figure out the best way to shake up the game right now.  The problem is that he thinks Angela is the core of L6 when it is really Tyler.

Why is that a problem?   Just catching this morning. 

[Cutty]

41 minutes ago, RandomWatcher said:

/Also, just saw on Instagram that Jeff and Jordan are at the hospital about to have their second kid.

Has Jeff met the first kid yet?

[SiobhanJW]

Brett I think was pretty much flipped last night after Hay's antics- he was PISSED. I think he was actually mostly pissed because Kaycee & Angela were upstairs "consoling" Hayleigh which is what made him more incensed. 

Kaycee & Angela smartly went in and spoke to Brett to make sure that he was okay- smartest move Kaycee did was asking him what he wanted to do about the vote- and giving him that option to say I want Hay out. After that you could see his change in demeanor- and he was a bit calm again. I think he was happy that she was giving him the option of pulling the trigger on Hay and that would do it if it's what he really wanted. He then told JC that he was going to still evict Scottie cuz that's what Kaycee & Angela want. 

I think Brett is stuck between a rock and a hard place- I don't think he's going to go for Kaycee & Angela if he wins HOH because that would NOT be good for him. But he's also kind of screwed if he makes F4- unless he either wins HOH or Veto. He's gone. But I think if he were to go with JC- he leaves much sooner. 

Don't even get me started on JC- I understand the game moves he wants to make- you see someone is close to your #1 and you are nervous about that. But he's going about it way to wrong his insane rampage last night/early this morning about Angela is not going to end well for him. It was one thing for him to be telling Brett & Tyler that he feels like he needs to split up Kaycee & Angela- but really to get rid of Angela. But to go to Kaycee and rant and rave about Angela was just a horrible game move- this is because he is jealous. Tyler was literally JUST telling Kaycee again that JC wants Angela out- she had said she hasn't felt that from JC- then a few hours later he's ranting and raving about her to Kaycee- someone he believes is her #1. Does he think that Kaycee won't say anything? 

At this point- I think that Tyler needs to tell Angela what is going on with JC- I understand why he isn't- because he wants Hayleigh out next and NOT JC. I do have a feeling if next week is a DE- JC is gone. 

When they got the delivery of booze yesterday- he was sooooo pissed at production. Saying that they want Angela & Tyler together and that's why they keep giving them booze this week and how she's a sloppy drunk etc. My favorite part was when he told Brett if Angela & Tyler kiss- we are "fucked"- which made me LOL so hard because dude that shipped sailed at least week ago maybe more. 

Honestly at this rate the person that throws JC on the block and evicts him will be my new favorite person- he's just such a nasty and vile human that I just cannot deal with him and his antics any longer. I'm over his sense that he controls everyone and everything, he told Tyler last night that if he evicts Angela that he can control Kaycee. On what freaking planet? LOL. 

I need at least these 3 conversations today: 

1. Brett & Tyler 

2. Kaycee & Tyler RE: JC 

3. L6 Meeting 

Let's see if this happens. 

[CrazyDog]

9 hours ago, Brian Cronin said:

B'rer Tyler: "Oh no, PLEASE don't evict Haleigh!"

I give Brett props for trying to do something (but hoping Tyler still sticks around for awhile) but I am laughing at a big dramatic flip that will give Tyler what he wanted in the first place.

And Brett is in a tough place. But what is his endgame? He's is in last place among some good competitors, which isn't good for him. But flipping and joining with JC and Sam who aren't exactly comp beasts? And I don't get who he wants to be sitting next to at the end, not that I think he'll make it that far.

Edited September 6, 2018 by CrazyDog

[missyb]

5 minutes ago, SiobhanJW said:

It was one thing for him to be telling Brett & Tyler that he feels like he needs to split up Kaycee & Angela- but really to get rid of Angela. But to go to Kaycee and rant and rave about Angela was just a horrible game move- this is because he is jealous. Tyler was literally JUST telling Kaycee again that JC wants Angela out- she had said she hasn't felt

DId he rant to KC ? I thought it was Haleigh he was bitching to.

[SiobhanJW]

4 minutes ago, missyb said:

DId he rant to KC ? I thought it was Haleigh he was bitching to.

Yeah- he heard from either Hay or Brett I can't recall that Angela was annoyed that he kicked her out of the HOH room because he wanted to talk to Tyler. He then realized she went back upstairs after he went into the DR- because Hayleigh tried to knock on the door to say good night and the door was locked and they didn't answer, and of course Hay told everyone this- and he went on a rampage and was talking shit about Angela to Kaycee. 

[Cutty]

11 minutes ago, SiobhanJW said:

I think Brett is stuck between a rock and a hard place- I don't think he's going to go for Kaycee & Angela if he wins HOH because that would NOT be good for him. But he's also kind of screwed if he makes F4- unless he either wins HOH or Veto. He's gone. But I think if he were to go with JC- he leaves much sooner. 

 

It's been obvious for about a month that Brett was screwed once Footy was gone. He had no plan for the endgame. I don't understand what he was thinking.

[aurora296]

24 minutes ago, SiobhanJW said:

Brett I think was pretty much flipped last night after Hay's antics- he was PISSED. 

What did I miss? What was Hay's antics? I don't have the feeds. And what was so interesting about the veto speeches that Scottie and Haleigh supposedly gave since they didn't air them?

[Alice Mudgarden]

9 hours ago, Jeebus Cripes said:

Yes, this needs to happen. #TeamGoodFeeds

Rowena!!!!!

Sorry for the excited outburst, I just love that fiery haired witch. Do carry on.

[missyb]

I think if KC or Angela win an HOH, Hay will be right up in the HOH divulging all the stuff she talked about with JC last night. Especially if Angela wins. Ohhhh I hope Angela wins again.

[Brian Cronin]

9 minutes ago, aurora296 said:

What did I miss? What was Hay's antics? I don't have the feeds. And what was so interesting about the veto speeches that Scottie and Haleigh supposedly gave since they didn't air them?

They were messing around while drunk and then Haleigh sprayed him with the kitchen hose and when Brett got pissed, she essentially said, "You can't do anything about it." That made him pissed that she was so confident that she was staying that she would talk that way to someone who partially controlled the vote on whether she went home on Thursday, so he "joked" about voting her out,  then,  as the ultimate prank. And when Kaycee and Angela consoled Haleigh, he quickly decided to vote her out for real because he felt that they were acting like Haleigh was their ally and not him. He ultimately backed off. 

 

As for the speeches, we don't know. They just said that they were "better than brett." Since they didn't air them, I guess they weren't. 

[gunderda]

30 minutes ago, aurora296 said:

What did I miss? What was Hay's antics? I don't have the feeds. And what was so interesting about the veto speeches that Scottie and Haleigh supposedly gave since they didn't air them?

Apparently they were just super random - maybe they felt the tv audience wouldn't understand 

[Ceeg]

Brett should want to take Angela to the F2 with him tbh. She and Sam would probably be the only people he’d win against. 

[gunderda]

Angela has way too many game moves. She might be able to win them over with that.  Unless she can't break out of her ice queen persona during her final speech.

[Ceeg]

23 minutes ago, gunderda said:

Angela has way too many game moves. She might be able to win them over with that.  Unless she can't break out of her ice queen persona during her final speech.

Making game moves =/= getting jury votes though. Especially when it’s a woman against a man. 

Brett has basically no shot at winning against: Tyler, JC, Scottie, and potentially KC. He has a decent shot against Angela. He would def win against Sam. 

I know he’s worried about being low man on the L6 totem pole, but he should be thinking about who he can beat in F2, too. 

[missyb]

8 minutes ago, Ceeg said:

Making game moves =/= getting jury votes though. Especially when it’s a woman against a man. 

Brett has basically no shot at winning against: Tyler, JC, Scottie, and potentially KC. He has a decent shot against Angela. He would def win against Sam. 

I know he’s worried about being low man on the L6 totem pole, but he should be thinking about who he can beat in F2, too. 

Exactly, worry about getting there first . At some point, it is all about who is HOH at final 4 and having the final vote. Does he think he would be cut before JC? He could openly talk to Tyler about this. Supposedly, they do have a F2.

[Gummo]

15 minutes ago, Ceeg said:

I know he’s worried about being low man on the L6 totem pole, but he should be thinking about who he can beat in F2, too. 

He doesn't have that luxury. He realized too late that he was on the bottom and now he's scrambling to shore up his position before the 2 easy votes (Scotty/Haleigh) are over with and the cannibalism begins. 

[gunderda]

I still don't think he could win against Angela. JC and Sam maybe.

[Gummo]

Please refresh my memory if I'm wrong, but the only significant game move by Brett was infiltrating Footy, and even that wasn't much use since Footy did such a fine job destroying themselves.

So yes, he'd be hard pressed to explain to a skeptical jury why he deserved to win.

[Nashville]

2 minutes ago, Ceeg said:

Making game moves =/= getting jury votes though. Especially when it’s a woman against a man. 

Two things working in Angela’ favor, though:

1. At this moment in time, Angela has one of the strongest BB resumes of the season.  Angela was the first HG to win HoH twice (and is still currently one of the only two HGs to do so), she’s won PoV (which she used to take Tyler off the Block), and she’s been OTB herself and survived (when Tyler won PoV and reciprocated the following week).  Throw in another HoH win or two before the end of the season, and I think Angela would have a strong shot at the $500K against anybody except maybe Tyler - and she should certainly make the argument Tyler wouldn’t even have had the chance to be sitting beside her if she hadn’t taken him off the Block in Week 6.  Tyler making the same argument vis-à-vis Angela in Week 7 wouldn’t carry nearly as much weight; in such cases, the unilateral first move communicates a stronger message than its reciprocation.   Under these circumstances, even Pinky might have a hard time rationalizing a spite vote against Angela without coming off looking like a petty heel on national television.
2. Girl Power.  If Angela is sitting next to a guy at F2, that means (a) both Finalists are L6 and (b) 5 women are sitting in Jury - Bay, Hay, Pinky, Kaycee, and Sam.  Strum the right notes on that girl power guitar, and Angela could carry the day on the female vote alone.  Sam would probably be the least likely of the five, particularly if Tyler sits in the opposing F2 chair - but Scottie’s vote may be in play if Scottie feels sufficiently stung by a Tyler betrayal.  Same with JC or Brett, depending on how well/badly Tyler handles their ousters.  So there may be swing votes to be had.

My basic point: at present Angela unarguably has the strongest BB game resume of any female in the game, and it wouldn’t take much more resume-padding to make that unarguable from any aspect.  Angela’s greatest challenge is finding a way to bulk up her game creds enough to overcome her truly frightening social game - and I don’t think that’s necessarily an impossible task, particularly if Tyler’s house of F2 cards comes crashing down and he augurs it in on his attempted recovery.

 

2 minutes ago, Ceeg said:

Brett has basically no shot at winning against: Tyler, JC, Scottie, and potentially KC. He has a decent shot against Angela. He would def win against Sam. 

Personally, I have real doubts about JC’s ability to beat anybody any more, except maybe Sam; his tactics have become increasingly transparent, and he’s started doing a decent job of antagonizing the more-than-half of the Jury who’s still in the House.  Gonna be hard for JC to make a winning argument against anybody, especially since he hasn’t won so much as a scratch-off ticket game-wise; his resume is a blank page.  JC’s game is 100% social, and his wheels are starting to come off on that.

[Gummo]

Random thought:

If I was playing BB and Production kept hassling us about singing, I'd gather everyone in the backyard, hands on hearts, and sing The Star Spangled Banner as loud as we could.

It's public domain and the national anthem, to boot. What could they say? "Stop being patriotic, it's bad television!" ??

[Wings]

34 minutes ago, Gummo said:

Random thought:

If I was playing BB and Production kept hassling us about singing, I'd gather everyone in the backyard, hands on hearts, and sing The Star Spangled Banner as loud as we could.

It's public domain and the national anthem, to boot. What could they say? "Stop being patriotic, it's bad television!" ??

Or bring a list of songs that have been released with you.  

[gunderda]

I think the no singing is an all or nothing thing just to keep it simple for the button people. They can't even sing songs they made up in their head. 

Edited September 6, 2018 by gunderda

[Summerday]

5 hours ago, Lady Calypso said:

To be fair, Brett's usually pretty chill about things...besides this Tangela thing, that's gotten him up in arms. So for Brett to get pissed off about a prank, I could just see it as him being in a rare bad mood. If he always got upset (like Bayleigh or Rockstar, for example) then I'd agree with the princess comment. But since he's usually pretty cool about things and mostly holds back from confrontation about silly things, I'll give him a pass.

I disagree, I think he was being dramatic.

They all had beer/wine and played “water pong” and then were hanging out around the table. Hayleigh sprays a little water on Brett and basically says what are you going to do about it. That’s how every water fight in the history of mankind has begun.

If Brett had reacted normally, he would’ve thrown water back on Hayleigh and before you know it the whole house would’ve been screaming and running around having a fun water fight. But instead Brett threatened to vote her out and just killed the party vibe that they had going by being a total stick in the mud about a little bit of water.

Then he moves his bed because he’s that pissed at Hayleigh (he claims he moved because that room is hot) and Hayleigh moves his bed right back because she doesn’t realize how seriously he’s reacting to all of this. Moving your bed and threatening to vote someone out because they squirted you with water makes him a precious princess imo.

We're all allowed to have bad moods and not be in the mood for pranks, but just because someone's in a bad mood doesn't mean they get to ruin the vibe of the entire house. He should've just gone to bed if he was feeling that bad.

 

3 hours ago, Cutty said:

It's been obvious for about a month that Brett was screwed once Footy was gone. He had no plan for the endgame. I don't understand what he was thinking.

Me either, it's way too late now, I think he's screwed. There's no one left for him to work with. Did Tyler make a fake final 2 deal with him too? If yes, then I can sorta kinda understand Brett's actions, but if he didn't have a final 2 with Tyler then nothing he's done for the past few weeks makes any sense to me.

Edited September 6, 2018 by Summerday

[Brian Cronin]

4 minutes ago, Summerday said:

Me either, it's way too late now, I think he's screwed. There's no one left for him to work with. Did Tyler make a fake final 2 deal with him too? If yes, then I can sorta kinda understand Brett's actions, but if he didn't have a final 2 with Tyler then nothing he's done for the past few weeks makes any sense to me.

Yeah, he and Tyler made a F2 deal. 

[leocadia]

Just because it can't be said enough...I hate Paul.  The only Paul episode I'm interested in seeing is the one where he loses.  Or the other one where he loses again.

In the episode that's on right now, he's berating Nicole and calling her a bad gameplayer because he's on the block and she's an easy target.  This is only palatable because I know how the season ends.

Also, from now until the end of time, he is not and will never be my boy.

Edited September 6, 2018 by leocadia

[Brian Cronin]

1 minute ago, leocadia said:

Just because it can't be said enough...I hate Paul.  The only Paul episode I'm interested in seeing is the one where he loses.  Or the other one where he loses again.

In the epsisode that's on right now, he's berating Nicole and calling her a bad gameplayer because he's on the block and she's an easy target.  This is only palatable because I know how the season ends.

I remember being sort of kind of happy when he was SUCH a dick to Bridgette in BB18 because at that point, he had laid low enough that some people had begun to forget just HOW MUCH of an asshole he was and that put it back into perspective. 

As much as I hate him ever being on BB to begin with, let alone TWICE, I do take some solace in him somehow coming in second in back-to-back seasons and losing to two pretty mediocre HGs. Just amazing. 

[Alice Mudgarden]

3 minutes ago, Brian Cronin said:

As much as I hate him ever being on BB to begin with, let alone TWICE, I do take some solace in him somehow coming in second in back-to-back seasons and losing to two pretty mediocre HGs. Just amazing. 

And he did it wearing the same shirt!!

[Brian Cronin]

How would you rank the "Leftover from the eventual dissolution of a big alliance that they were not the head of" BB winners, which is the most common type of BB winner? 

The options are:

Lisa

Jordan

Rachel

Ian

Steve

Nicole

Josh

(Technically Adam counts, but I like to put BB9 on its own separate, shitty shitty section)

Personally, I'd rank them:

1. Rachel (she pulled out some huge wins, even if she was helped by the biggest rig in BB history received by an eventual winner)

2. Ian (he did a decent amount of stuff) 

3. Steve (he took out Vanessa)

4. Josh (his GBM strategy was sound)

5. Jordan (she hung in tough)

6. Lisa (she was smartly bland)

7. Nicole (she was not Paul)

Edited September 6, 2018 by Brian Cronin
Had to swap Rachel and Ian. Couldn't have that drip #1.

[Alice Mudgarden]

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Reason: Had to swap Rachel and Ian. Couldn't have that drip #1.

[Skyfall]

So how are the votes looking? It’ll be interesting what happens to L6 after this week given the fraction between what Tyler wants and what the rest of them want.

[gunderda]

Scottie is cutting his own hair... I have no idea where Sam is. 

He's using questionable tactics.