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3 hours ago, Loves2Dance said:

Unfortunately, this isn't happening. She's enrolled at North Lake College less than 20 minutes from her parents house. It's a small-ish (around 10K students) community college that doesn't offer off campus living and won't give her any form of culture outside of the Dallas and DCC Bubble. And, she is continuing to dance at the same studio where she grew up and lord knows they're either not that great or don't give honest feedback. TK is stunting her daughter and it's sad to watch. 

Does the college offer dance as a major? have a dance team? She probably has outgrown her previous teacher - she needs to be going to Kitty !

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10 minutes ago, JohnGalt said:

Morgan and Kaitlyn LaRae are moot. Different season, different time. Being over roster wasn’t an option this year. Kelli would have taken a squad of 38 if she was able to. She wanted Malena. It’s really as simple as that. 

I have a feeling who said no to a team of 38, and no I do not mean Judy either.

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38 minutes ago, Katekate said:

What’s most confusing to me is why “everyone” likes Tina so much as to give her daughter special treatment. Tina seems like a complete mess...there I said it. 

Tina is Kelli's BFF. So if Kelli considers Dayton "like a daughter" then Kelli practically gave birth to VK.

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So if VK plans on trying out again next year...……...we have time to get the bingo cards printed.  We can have squares that say:

1. VK jumps up and down

2. VK flips her hair over Kelli's desk

3. VK is in front of everyone else

4. VK moves into someone else's space

5. Marshall gives serious side eye

6. Judy gives serious side eye

7. VK falls out of a turn and everyone says "Awwwwwww!"

8. Scott takes one for the team

9. What's her name cries (her name just fell out of my head:/ )

10. Marshall eats a banana split

11. The girls go to IHOP

12. VK's trainer comes out of hiding

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2 minutes ago, scorpio1031 said:

So if VK plans on trying out again next year...……...we have time to get the bingo cards printed.  We can have squares that say:

1. VK jumps up and down

2. VK flips her hair over Kelli's desk

3. VK is in front of everyone else

4. VK moves into someone else's space

5. Marshall gives serious side eye

6. Judy gives serious side eye

7. VK falls out of a turn and everyone says "Awwwwwww!"

8. Scott takes one for the team

9. What's her name cries (her name just fell out of my head:/ )

10. Marshall eats a banana split

11. The girls go to IHOP

12. VK's trainer comes out of hiding

Funny. But I'm not going to watch next year if VK returns.

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1 hour ago, JohnGalt said:

Morgan and Kaitlyn LaRae are moot. Different season, different time. Being over roster wasn’t an option this year. Kelli would have taken a squad of 38 if she was able to. She wanted Malena. It’s really as simple as that. 

@JohnGalt do u know who the 38th wud have been after Malena? I just don’t get the fangirling from Kelli over her tho, in almost every clip last nite she was going in the wrong direction. It seems impossible to me and my untrained eye that she cud ever be game ready this year. 

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5 hours ago, Loves2Dance said:

Unfortunately, this isn't happening. She's enrolled at North Lake College less than 20 minutes from her parents house. It's a small-ish (around 10K students) community college that doesn't offer off campus living and won't give her any form of culture outside of the Dallas and DCC Bubble. And, she is continuing to dance at the same studio where she grew up and lord knows they're either not that great or don't give honest feedback.

14 hours ago, Agent Gully said:

Kitty has grown on me over the seasons. She is definitely a harsh critic and sometimes is distasteful in her statements. For all that, IMO, she really wants the girls to be successful, and doesn't waste any time with them tiptoeing around an issue.

I'm just going to leave this right here...

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Ugh Victoria. I just want someone to really tell her like it is, she never gets honest critique because Kelli is protecting her. I am disappointed with Kelli, it’s just such blatant nepotism for them to not call out her dance issues and tell her to lose weight. If Kitty does not straight up call out Victoria about it next week, she is part of the issue too. I remember too many seasons of Kitty literally calling forth every TCC and veteran she thinks is heavy and telling them in front of the entire class or having Kelli tell them in her office. Victoria acts immature and unprofessional in her office visits, I really am starting to believe the rumors of her being told she was guaranteed a spot because she acts like it.

I am so confused about the Dayton cut because she has looked great in every footage I have seen of her lately. Her body is just looking amazing too. 

Brianna and Jaylyn looked great, I also enjoyed Hannah’s backstory. 

Tara looked bad at show group auditions, the one shot of Miranda from behind wasn’t too much better but at least she didn’t fall.

Gina and Kelli rocked it during the lyrical guy’s dance. I wish Kelli got more recognition for her dance abilities, she seems to be ignored a lot. 

Sorry but I thought Kashara’s body was amazing during all of the scenes, I think she has amazing toned curves. 

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I love Denise.    And I love the look from Judy of suppressed glee when Denise said that, and the weak justifications from Kelli started.    I'm surprised Kelli had the guts to make excuses she knew weren't true, and how she ignored the jelly belly, and overall pudge VK has added to a not tiny figure.   

If VK does come back next year, I'm probably dumping this show, and it's a shame because I've enjoyed watching the tryouts all the way through for all of the years this has aired.    I loved the Throwback Thursday to the 2011 tryouts after last night.     

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3 minutes ago, CrazyInAlabama said:

I love Denise.    And I love the look from Judy of suppressed glee when Denise said that, and the weak justifications from Kelli started.    I'm surprised Kelli had the guts to make excuses she knew weren't true, and how she ignored the jelly belly, and overall pudge VK has added to a not tiny figure.   

If VK does come back next year, I'm probably dumping this show, and it's a shame because I've enjoyed watching the tryouts all the way through for all of the years this has aired.    I loved the Throwback Thursday to the 2011 tryouts after last night.     

Well said.

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16 minutes ago, TexasBorn said:

Kitty lives in bizarro world.

What? You don't agree that Victoria has a HUGE dance career ahead? ;-) It seems that's the direction she plans to go in.

Admittedly, I don't know anything really about the professional dance world, but DCC seems like a strange place to start for someone who wants to go pro. Although it's regular work, in the sense that they get a paycheck every week during the season, it takes up practically all of your time, offers relatively few opportunities to actually perform, and severely restricts opportunities to pursue other dance and modeling gigs. I also wonder whether it helps or hinders to have it on your resume. It is something that will grab a potential employer's attention, but does it have credibility in the dance community? Particularly outside of Texas? I would love to know if it was helping Holly or if it helped Abigail.

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11 minutes ago, sleepyjean said:

What? You don't agree that Victoria has a HUGE dance career ahead? ;-)

Admittedly, I don't know anything really about the professional dance world, but DCC seems like a strange place to start for someone who wants to go pro. Although it's regular work, in the sense that they get a paycheck every week during the season, it takes up practically all of your time, offers relatively few opportunities to actually perform, and severely restricts opportunities to pursue other dance and modeling gigs. I also wonder whether it helps or hinders to have it on your resume. It is something that will grab a potential employer's attention, but does it have credibility in the dance community? Particularly outside of Texas?

I was responding to Kitty's "beauty" comment. Has Kitty ever met Maggie, Alexis, Abigail K, and hundred of other truly beautiful DCCs .... Sorry but I'm not one to throw out that word like dog biscuits. Ruuuufff!

41 minutes ago, sleepyjean said:

I'm just going to leave this right here...

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Awww. Best in Show. Bless their hearts.

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I know I keep harping on Victoria's dance skills (or lack thereof), but I doubt she'd be able to go pro and get enough jobs to make a decent living wage outside of Dallas.  There are just too many other dancers who are not only prettier then she is, but have the skills and the discipline to do it.  Many DCC have done on to other dance careers and I seem to remember hearing that many of them (including Jacie) had to brush up on other skills in order to get the job.  Victoria seems to be the type to show up and think that just being her "awesome" self would be enough to get her the job.  Imagine the tantrum she's throw if she didn't get said job, especially when she realizes TPTB don't care who's daughter she is or where she went to school (or at least to marvel at her lack of technique).

Kelli REALLY needs to get called out on the nepotism and favoritism.  She'll deny it like crazy, but there's absolute NO reason for all the excuses she's been giving Victoria.  Given Victoria's performance so far, I expected that from her, but I didn't expect Kelli to be doing it FOR her.  She's doing the girl NO favors in babying her along.

I also get the feeling that the show's being edited two different ways at the same time.  It's like Kelli goes through and edits the episodes the way she wants them, then someone comes along and makes the changes that CMT wanted.  That may be the disjointed feeling that people have been talking about, especially with this being the "Season of Victoria".  Whoever is following Kelli can't COMPLETELY edit out Victoria, but is certainly tweaking it enough to make her more of a spoiled, bratty princess then the best thing that ever happened to the DCC.

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1 hour ago, Jennv said:

Off topic, but I would kill to have Marshall do my hair, just so I could hang out with him for an hour 

He doesn't need to even touch my hair, I just want to bask in his presence.    Wait--Does that sound creepy?

 

Re Victoria it is clear that certain people have VK Goggles on all the time, which makes them not see how jarringly OFF she is from what viewers of this show have been told for a decade plus is the DCC ideal.   Goggles are sported by Kelli, Charlotte, and Kitty.   The goggles are not worn by Scott the Meteorologist, Denise, or Judy.    

Thinking of how Kelli has lectured over the years about how a DCC should have 'soft glamour' and a toned mid section blah blah and how girls with smiles half as gummy as VK were booted for it.  I want to see what made the goggles finally fall off it has to be epic.....

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11 minutes ago, EricaShadows said:

I know I keep harping on Victoria's dance skills (or lack thereof), but I doubt she'd be able to go pro and get enough jobs to make a decent living wage outside of Dallas.  There are just too many other dancers who are not only prettier then she is, but have the skills and the discipline to do it.  Many DCC have done on to other dance careers and I seem to remember hearing that many of them (including Jacie) had to brush up on other skills in order to get the job.  Victoria seems to be the type to show up and think that just being her "awesome" self would be enough to get her the job.  Imagine the tantrum she's throw if she didn't get said job, especially when she realizes TPTB don't care who's daughter she is or where she went to school (or at least to marvel at her lack of technique).

Kelli REALLY needs to get called out on the nepotism and favoritism.  She'll deny it like crazy, but there's absolute NO reason for all the excuses she's been giving Victoria.  Given Victoria's performance so far, I expected that from her, but I didn't expect Kelli to be doing it FOR her.  She's doing the girl NO favors in babying her along.

I also get the feeling that the show's being edited two different ways at the same time.  It's like Kelli goes through and edits the episodes the way she wants them, then someone comes along and makes the changes that CMT wanted.  That may be the disjointed feeling that people have been talking about, especially with this being the "Season of Victoria".  Whoever is following Kelli can't COMPLETELY edit out Victoria, but is certainly tweaking it enough to make her more of a spoiled, bratty princess then the best thing that ever happened to the DCC.

@JohnGalt - Does Kelli have a say in episode edits?

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I watched a couple of episodes of season 6 last night, and Kelli mentioned that the team would end up being from 36 to 40 girls. I did not remember that at all. I'm wondering when 36 became a 'hard' number for the team. 

VK....ugh! I''m trying not to dislike her, but the show group comment was just stupid, and I think others would've been chewed out for saying similar things. Angela got called out pretty harshly for being upset after she didn't make show group, and she was a group leader.... VK hasn't even made the team yet.

Are there any videos of the dance that Denise taught? It looked like a fun, sassy dance. 

Dayton has stepped it up lately, so it will be interesting to see the reasoning for her cut, which I assume comes next week. 

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2 hours ago, Trixi said:

@JohnGalt do u know who the 38th wud have been after Malena? I just don’t get the fangirling from Kelli over her tho, in almost every clip last nite she was going in the wrong direction. It seems impossible to me and my untrained eye that she cud ever be game ready this year. 

weren't Malena and Lily the last two cuts? Victoria was third from last, I think... 

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Amazon only just got the episode up so i haven't watched it yet but i watched those clips on cmt and lmaooo Neecie just made my fave list after Scott.  God bless her for speaking truth even when it's not well received.  Or maybe Judy slipped her a $20 to say that   JK   Judy might have been driven to insanity if both Malena and Vic had made the squad this year. 

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7 minutes ago, MamaV said:

Do we think Kelli was caught off guard by Neecie’s VK comments or was it all scripted?

I think she was caught off guard.  Kelli seems to think that people should gush over Victoria like she does and when they don't, it surprises her.  Why it should, or does, I don't know, but that woman seems to have blinders on.  

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6 hours ago, Trixi said:

http://www.cmt.com/video-clips/3xtxrz/dallas-cowboys-cheerleaders-making-the-team-who-needs-more-time

Heres the clip with Denise. She’s now on the top of my fave tell it like it is peeps along with Scott the weatherman!  And then Kelli says that’s shes been just dynamite. Really? More like an explosion of immaturity. 

Kelli is freaking blind or living in complete denial. I love you Denise, and Judy’s reaction. ?

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1 minute ago, Erinbridget said:

After VK's office visit in last nights episode, I'm really eager to see how Kelli carries out her cut. 

Kelli just sees her with blinders as others suggest. It’s understandable in a way, I’m sure I would be equally as blind. But her reaction to Denise was very telling as she made excuses for Victoria. 

If Victoria was better or wasnt so entitled or acted like she wasn’t guaranteed a spot, I would like her better. Her acting in the latest episode made it clear she doesn’t think she will get cut, Kelli had to repeat “I’m serious” to get her attention. 

I want to add, I’m only talking about what I see on the show and her bad dancing that Kelli and Charlotte can’t see. 

Im not commenting on who she is in real life. She seems like she could be fun to be around, like a goofy 18 year old. I’m commenting on her lack of professionalism, her poor dancing and her protection from Kelli. Anything with her mother is based on what they’ve shown on the show. 

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I honestly don't know how anyone can judge any of these girls. We are shown snippets of dance and slow motion whooshes. We have no way of knowing how these girls look on the whole within their groups at training camp.  We can't make judgments without more evidence and I'm sorry 3 second glimpses don't count. 

Sure we can go to Instagram and look at their solos but even that does not give us insight for how they move with a team. When I look at VK as a solo dancer she has some beautiful moments . But she is also very large in her movement and I do wonder if they eventually cut her because she can't dance on the TEAM. She seems less aware of space when you watch her prep classes. But none of us can really say she's a terrible dancer. She's not.

And regarding the weight issue. There are MANY vets who look equally chunky right now. Even Dayton who is incredibly gorgeous has a rounder figure. I don't see VKs weight as a major sticking point comparatively.

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9 minutes ago, Tuxcat said:

I honestly don't know how anyone can judge any of these girls. We are shown snippets of dance and slow motion whooshes. We have no way of knowing how these girls look on the whole within their groups at training camp.  We can't make judgments without more evidence and I'm sorry 3 second glimpses don't count. 

Sure we can go to Instagram and look at their solos but even that does not give us insight for how they move with a team. When I look at VK as a solo dancer she has some beautiful moments . But she is also very large in her movement and I do wonder if they eventually cut her because she can't dance on the TEAM. She seems less aware of space when you watch her prep classes. But none of us can really say she's a terrible dancer. She's not.

And regarding the weight issue. There are MANY vets who look equally chunky right now. Even Dayton who is incredibly gorgeous has a rounder figure. I don't see VKs weight as a major sticking point comparatively.

She was cut mostly due to lying about seeing a Cowboys doctor after saying she was gaining weight caused by a thyroid disorder. There is a lot more to the real reason(s) why she was cut. No idea if it will come up, or Kelli, Charlotte and CMT will come up with other excuses to cut her.

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I agree about the look on Kelli's face in the office, and I think that was when Kelli finally realized what a problem she created by advocating for VK, and not telling her the truth.   I think that was Kelli's breaking point, and she finally realized that not telling VK the truth wasn't being fair to her.   I'm sure Kelli also realized that there was a big chance that helicopter parent TK would never speak to her again, but going on with this fiasco with VK simply because they are BFFs couldn't continue.    

You can't change what you don't know is wrong.   I wonder if some of the commercial studio instructors would tell someone the absolute truth, if it means that the person pays for a ton of classes will go somewhere else, where the instructors aren't criticizing them?    

VK should have known her weight might be an issue, after the fact her mother has fought her weight her entire life.    The fact that she acknowledged that, and then instead of working on tightening her middle, started eating too much makes me wonder if she deep down wanted an out.      Now she can say that they picked on her, and make all kinds of excuses, and never have to worry about going back for DCC again.     

It will be interesting to see Kitty next week.   I love that she's been so honest with the DCC TCC over the years, and wonder if that will happen next week.    

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I was finally able to watch last nights episode on Amazon.  I feel VK is just too immature for this squad this year.  I am glad she was cut.  Plus, her hair really bothers me.  In her office visit it looks a hot mess.  She needed a good brushing.  Reminds me the time Judy talked about Jaclyn's hair and how she needed to "brush it."  I can only imagine what VK's hair would look like during a 4 hour game.  I hope if she comes back next year, they do something different with her hair.  I bet she would look cute if it was cut short. 

I like Erin's dancing, not in love with it, but her face bothers me from the side angle and up close.  Far away she looks pretty.  I think it's her nose.  I also don't think she would look that beautiful unless she has tons of makeup on.  I feel so terrible saying that!  

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6 hours ago, Katekate said:

What’s most confusing to me is why “everyone” likes Tina so much as to give her daughter special treatment. Tina seems like a complete mess...there I said it. 

BC Tina helps Kelli relive her glory days. 

4 hours ago, Trixi said:

@JohnGalt do u know who the 38th wud have been after Malena? I just don’t get the fangirling from Kelli over her tho, in almost every clip last nite she was going in the wrong direction. It seems impossible to me and my untrained eye that she cud ever be game ready this year. 

I don't get the Malena fangirling either. Somebody help her with her makeup and she cannot pick up choreo. 

2 hours ago, scorpio1031 said:

You know - I bet that if Sam had tried out, Kelli would have been extremely harsh with her to avoid claims of nepotism.

Sam is the one person Kelli told not to audition. Holly had her going there for a minute about how they could be DCC together, and that was part of the salt in the wound with Kelli and Charlotte when the Holly two faced lying drama came out. She had slid herself into being friends with Sam and Charlottes daughter. Suckas. 

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1 hour ago, EricaShadows said:

In a way, much of Victoria's edit seems to be in direct opposition to the way that Kelli (and some others) have talked about her.  Kelli seems to be treating Victoria MUCH differently than almost any other girl.  Heck, she's even getting treated differently than Cassie.  I don't know of any other girl who would not only be practically ordered to lose weight and, if she didn't, be cut for it within weeks.  Victoria came in soft and is getting softer, though she was warned.  We haven't heard ANYTHING out of Kelli (at least that was shown) about it since last week's episode.  We've also seen Kelli make excuses for Victoria about almost everything, most recently with Denise.  There have been many cases where we've been shown something about Victoria that would have gotten many other girls warned or cut, but Victoria seems to get a pass on most, if not all, of them.  Kelli has even said that (paraphrasing here): "If anyone else were sitting here, tonight would be your last night."  That can be taken one of two ways: Either she's giving Victoria a warning that, if she continues what she's doing, she'll get cut or that Kelli knows that Victoria has shown, said and done enough to be cut, but won't do it for whatever reason.

"If anyone else whose not my BFFs daughter ..."

34 minutes ago, SmpIsimon said:

Exactly!

Btw, I finally watched last night's episode, and my favorite moment is the look Judy gives when VK says she was really hoping to make show group.  Her face is all kinds of "are you fucking kidding me?"

 "Are you f'n kidding me even Cassie had to work for show group! "

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3 hours ago, rose711 said:

May I contribute my phone screenshot of the beautiful Judy’s reaction?

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I really want a gif of her reaction. I may make one later.

Please, please do. I want a gif of it so badly, but I’m an old & I don’t know how. 

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16 minutes ago, UnicornKicks said:

I don't get the Malena fangirling either. Somebody help her with her makeup and she cannot pick up choreo.

The first woman in Jets Flight Crew history who was benched for the entire season because she couldn't master the choreography is chosen for DCC training camp, begins struggling from day one, and yet here's Kelli pulling SO hard for her. It almost defies logic. Kelli must really like something about her.

I'm not one to get into the whole race thing, but my mind does go there. Malena is an AA woman who is pretty, has an education, presents herself professionally, has the preferred body type, and is personable, humble, classy, responsible, and trainable. She has all of the ambassador skills and is a good teammate. When she remembers the choreo, she can pull it off pretty well. Last year's team was one of the most diverse they've had in a while. I think Kelli would really really like to put her on the team. If only Malena's swiss cheese memory would cooperate.

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2 hours ago, bigskygirl said:

She was cut mostly due to lying about seeing a Cowboys doctor after saying she was gaining weight caused by a thyroid disorder. There is a lot more to the real reason(s) why she was cut. No idea if it will come up, or Kelli, Charlotte and CMT will come up with other excuses to cut her.

And if that is true, no I won’t be watching next season if VK tries out again. I don’t care if VK could Dance circles around the other girls.  “Hiring” her back would be  a slap in the face to those who try out and us viewers.

Weight gain is one thing, lying to a potential employer is grounds for dismissal at any other company why would you hire them back?

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