Spoilers and Speculation: Clink Boom and Cheese Fondue

[TeeVee329]

Silas will have two children in Port Charles.  But zero for Lucy and Kevin and a SERIAL KILLER of a retcon for Scotty. #boo

[ulkis]

7 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

Silas will have two children in Port Charles.  But zero for Lucy and Kevin and a SERIAL KILLER of a retcon for Scotty. #boo

You don't think that murder is Kiki?

[TeeVee329]

*shrug* I dunno.  If it's happening in three weeks, they have some work to do to explain why Ryan would be killing her.

[Cheyanne11]

The murder victim will probably be Nurse Vanessa or Daisy who handed out flyers at Charlie's for one episode.  

[TeeVee329]

They should kill Nina's daughter just as they're going to meet each other, a la Ronnie and Danielle on "EastEnders".

Just as long as it's not Lucy.

[LexieLily]

8 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

They should kill Nina's daughter just as they're going to meet each other, a la Ronnie and Danielle on "EastEnders".

The mean part of me would enjoy this immensely. 

[TeeVee329]

4 hours ago, LexieLily said:

I might need to watch that. By chance was he institutionalized at Ferncliff?

Here's the episode of "Port Charles"; Kevin attacking Lucy starts at 5:35.  It's creepy stuff, creepier than I remembered.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7he8g9As-ZI

Oh, and that dude in the cloak is The Avatar.  #dontask

Edited October 4, 2018 by TeeVee329

[LexieLily]

17 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

Here's the episode of "Port Charles"; Kevin attacking Lucy starts at 5:35.  It's creepy stuff, creepier than I remembered.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7he8g9As-ZI

Oh, and that dude in the cloak is The Avatar.  #dontask

Thanks!! :-)

What is the end result? How do they get past it?

[TeeVee329]

They never really did, at least on "Port Charles".  Like I said, they were tearing down Kevin to build up Ian.  Kevin was institutionalized for a while and Lucy got paired with Ian.  And the show got swallowed whole by vampires and Caleb/Livvie and Rafe/Alison and Kevin and Lucy got much less time and attention.  And then the show was canceled.

And a year after that, Lucy and Kevin came back to GH for Lila Quartermaine's memorial and they were just back together.

Edited October 4, 2018 by TeeVee329

[LexieLily]

47 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

They never really did, at least on "Port Charles".  Like I said, they were tearing down Kevin to build up Ian.  Kevin was institutionalized for a while and Lucy got paired with Ian.  And the show got swallowed whole by vampires and Caleb/Livvie and Rafe/Alison and Kevin and Lucy got much less time and attention.  And then the show was canceled.

And a year after that, Lucy and Kevin came back to GH for Lila Quartermaine's memorial and they were just back together.

And when they came back they came back with one child instead of two!

[yowsah1]

11 hours ago, Asp Burger said:

I'd advocate for another recast, just because (1) Kiki has connections to several people, (2) the show's twentysomething age group is thin as it is, and better to write for someone who already has roots than start from scratch or reintroduce someone gone for years, and (3) she's practically a doctor on the Emily Quartermaine Rapid Accreditation Plan, and people involved in hospital doings are always welcome.

I agree.  Kiki, as "meh" of a character as she is, occupies ecological niches that are desperately thin and will damage the show (further) if they are unfilled.

[Oracle42]

If they didn't have a proven track record of (1) terrible writing for women (2) being terrible at creating/establishing/integrating new characters (3) being terrible at casting - I'd hope that this was an opportunity to do something about filling the void where the 20-something crowd should be.  I don't think Kiki would be much of a loss but I can't see any good in replacing her with WENEVERCARED Jr.

[statsgirl]

It's also gross that female characters tend to be killed blue dead while male characters leaving either go undercover (Dante) or die without a body (Nikolas, Morgan) so they can come back later.

[Oracle42]

Or they get a 3 day funeral - or they die without a body and get an annual memorial

[nilyank]

1 minute ago, statsgirl said:

It's also gross that female characters tend to be killed blue dead while male characters leaving either go undercover (Dante) or die without a body (Nikolas, Morgan) so they can come back later.

Especially when the women are getting brutally murdered as was the case for Sabrina.

[dubbel zout]

I can't believe it's been only a year since Morgan died. It feels a whole lot longer than that. I don't need to see MB try to eke out some tears while Sonny makes the service all about him and his loss.

I don't understand why the writers think anyone wants to see a memorial service for Morgan.

[statsgirl]

Isn't it at least two years?  There was a memorial for Morgan last year that Ava accidentally stumbled into because she wanted to see her daughter.

7 minutes ago, nilyank said:

Especially when the women are getting brutally murdered as was the case for Sabrina.

If it's Ryan doing the murdering, chances are ...

[ulkis]

3 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

I can't believe it's been only a year since Morgan died. It feels a whole lot longer than that. I don't need to see MB try to eke out some tears while Sonny makes the service all about him and his loss.

I don't understand why the writers think anyone wants to see a memorial service for Morgan.

That's because it's been two years. :)

12 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

It's also gross that female characters tend to be killed blue dead while male characters leaving either go undercover (Dante) or die without a body (Nikolas, Morgan) so they can come back later.

I actually think under FV the track record between men and women getting killed off has been pretty even. Killed off (with bodies) were Rafe, Trey, Nathan, AJ, Duke. Women killed were Connie, Sabrina, and now maybe Kiki.

[statsgirl]

Were there any women killed off without bodies?

[LillyB]

I think that Morgan is undead and will be back recasted any day.

[Asp Burger]

3 hours ago, ulkis said:

Killed off (with bodies) were Rafe, Trey, Nathan, AJ, Duke.

And Carrrrrrlos. 

[TeeVee329]

What is the point of recasting a character we never see?

https://daytimeconfidential.com/2018/10/03/is-tequan-richmond-leaving-general-hospital

[tveyeonyou]

12 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

Here's the episode of "Port Charles"; Kevin attacking Lucy starts at 5:35.  It's creepy stuff, creepier than I remembered.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7he8g9As-ZI

Oh, and that dude in the cloak is The Avatar.  #dontask

You just won the internet and my undying love and devotion!

Thank you so much for posting this, I don't know how I forgot this but now I need to hunt down as many Port Charles clips available just for the Lucy/Kevin/Ryan stuff (and Victor! How could I forget Victor?).

Seriously, thank you so much, you just gave me my weekend plans! 

Damn, just that one clip shows how miserable General Hospital has become. Also, reminded me how much I love Kevin and Lucy together. Thank you an million times over!

[dubbel zout]

11 hours ago, ulkis said:

That's because it's been two years. :)

Didn't Carly say yesterday it's been a year? I haz confused.

(Regardless, I'm glad my feeling that it's been more than one year since Morgan has died is accurate, LOL.)

4 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

What is the point of recasting a character we never see?

https://daytimeconfidential.com/2018/10/03/is-tequan-richmond-leaving-general-hospital

So the show can continue to claim it's diverse?

[TeeVee329]

2 hours ago, tveyeonyou said:

You just won the internet and my undying love and devotion!

Thank you so much for posting this, I don't know how I forgot this but now I need to hunt down as many Port Charles clips available just for the Lucy/Kevin/Ryan stuff (and Victor! How could I forget Victor?).

Seriously, thank you so much, you just gave me my weekend plans! 

Damn, just that one clip shows how miserable General Hospital has become. Also, reminded me how much I love Kevin and Lucy together. Thank you an million times over!

You're welcome!  There's a bunch of "Port Charles" stuff on YT and I've definitely been watching more of it lately to get the Kevin/Lucy/Scotty/good soap fix this show is not providing me.

[TheMediaHo]

What little I saw of Sasha was promising (though we all thought that when Chloe Lanier appeared as Luke's sister in the flashback episode). I wouldn't mind her replacing Kiki in the 20-somethings scene, especially if they would bring back Christina or Serena. She'd probably want to avenge the murder of the half sister she never knew (Keeks). Just so long as she doesn't team up with Lulu Falconeri, Girl Reporter, to do it. 
In another fantasy, Ryan/Kevin hates the story that LF, GR does on the 25th anniversary of his killing spree, as it is sympathetic to the victims, and kills her in the Fun House on Halloween (after dispatching Kiki). 

[BlancheDevoreaux]

On 10/3/2018 at 7:05 AM, TeeVee329 said:

Huh, the Soap Opera News "article" says that Daytime Confidential confirmed she's leaving, but DC calls it a rumor.  They also mention that casting in the "Pretty Little Liars" spin-off as some kind of proof, but we've known about that forever.  So I dunno how confirmed this is.

Anyway, yeah, I won't necessarily miss Kiki, but there's no need to kill her if HE is leaving*.  Have her run off to reunite with Dillon or something.  Get a great job offer at another hospital.  Something.

And then who becomes the sole female character in that age bracket, Nina's stupid daughter we don't care about?  Ugh.

* There's also no need to recast her or bring back Kristen Alderson, just saying.

This probably belongs in the unpopular opinions thread, but I'll take my chances with unknown actress playing the daughter of a character I don't care about over Kristina. PLEASE don't push Kristina to main female character in that age group.

[TeeVee329]

@ulkis, okay, after today, you're totally right about Kiki meeting her maker.  The warp speed on putting her and Griffin together, Ava expounding about her rage and revenge fantasies to Ryan, the pieces are (clumsily) being slid into place.

[ulkis]

Ha, I didn't mean to seem like I was challenging anyone to a duel over it. I would have preferred KA back for the hilarity.

[TeeVee329]

I just cringe at my naivety.  "But they haven't set anything up!"

[absnow54]

2 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

@ulkis, okay, after today, you're totally right about Kiki meeting her maker.  The warp speed on putting her and Griffin together, Ava expounding about her rage and revenge fantasies to Ryan, the pieces are (clumsily) being slid into place.

Plus the ominous jump rope framed prominently in the forefront during the Kiki Griffin kiss. 

[YaddaYadda]

After those Ava/Ryan scenes today, if Kiki is murdered, I think he will do the deed, but the death will be pinned on Ava.

[LexieLily]

Despite everything that is going on with them would it be believable that Ava would kill her own daughter?

[dubbel zout]

I can see it happening inadvertently, but I don’t think Ava would actually kill Lauren. Sort of like how Morgan died—Ava played a large part but didn’t set out for him to die.

[TeeVee329]

Carly: Morgan loved Kiki!

[ciarra]

21 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

Carly: Morgan loved Kiki!

And penguins!

[YaddaYadda]

1 hour ago, LexieLily said:

Despite everything that is going on with them would it be believable that Ava would kill her own daughter?

Griffin and Kiki are officially starting a relationship just as she is talking about revenge and going scorched earth on both. And she just spilled all about her anger and rage to "Kevin." 

There are people who have seen her fly off the handle at Kiki, the slap was witnessed by a room full of people, she tried to tank the case for sexual harassment, apparently Carly knows that she tried to bar her from Avery's life. For us viewers, yes, it's a stretch. But for the characters who hate Ava? They'll condemn her even if they have a hard time believing it.

If Ryan did it, he could not only pin it on Ava, but also testify against her in a trial. 

Edited October 4, 2018 by YaddaYadda

[Fellaway]

But, if they kill off Kiki, when Morgan comes back, as he inevitably will, we won't be able to have the patented, tried and true "The girl I loved has moved on to another, so I'll lurk in the shadows for months, sad and noble, while I watch my loved ones be happy without me" storyline.  That's television gold, people!

I am so not on board for another round of "Let's blame Ava for everything and hate on her at will."  Especially since no one will say "I'm sorry" when the truth comes out.  I'm done with them slagging on Ava.  She doesn't deserve it more than, say, Sonny, Jason, Carly, Franco...  They all need to have a talk about throwing stones. 

[ulkis]

24 minutes ago, Fellaway said:

But, if they kill off Kiki, when Morgan comes back, as he inevitably will, we won't be able to have the patented, tried and true "The girl I loved has moved on to another, so I'll lurk in the shadows for months, sad and noble, while I watch my loved ones be happy without me" storyline.  That's television gold, people!

They can use Ava for that.

[Fellaway]

1 hour ago, ulkis said:

They can use Ava for that.

I dunno.  That would imply that Ava is worth mooning over, and Show won't have that.

[TeeVee329]

Kelly Thiebaud's filming now so we'll see Britt in like 4-6 weeks.  Also, she's only filming three days so it'll be a short visit.

[Cheyanne11]

Thank god for small favors, re a short visit. 

[TeeVee329]

#teambritt

[TeeVee329]

Nelle's back: https://www.soapoperadigest.com/content/exclusive-chloe-lanier-dishes-gh-return/

I'm not sure if the article means she's appearing next week or if she's filming next week.  Either way, guess the baby swap is almost over.  Wow, what a great story this was for the (who?)s. #not

[Hater]

https://abc.go.com/shows/general-hospital/video/spoilers/VDKA5553105

 

Holy shit...I thought it couldn't get worse.  This is such a mess.

Burton seems unable to lift a woman who weighs no more than 90 pounds.  

Edited October 5, 2018 by Hater

[YaddaYadda]

Oh, thank everything in the world that Alexis arrived when she did. 

That was remarkably awkward and forced and the background music was weird AF. Please, show, let's not do this again. Thanks!

[Hater]

26 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

Oh, thank everything in the world that Alexis arrived when she did. 

That was remarkably awkward and forced and the background music was weird AF. Please, show, let's not do this again. Thanks!

That was very uncomfortable to watch at times.  Anna and Finn have competition now.

WOW!

[melody16]

Yikes. They are so clinical. No passion at all. No smiling, no happiness. Ugh. 

[HeatLifer]

LMAOOOOO.

[LexieLily]

SBu was rough with her; I want to know whether this was before or after KeMo's surgery on her hip.