S06.E03: The Newlyweds

[Drogo]

After marrying as complete strangers, the newlyweds are alone for the very first time on their wedding night; the following morning features brunch with the in-laws and news of honeymoon destinations.

[crgirl412]

Usually the man is more into having sex more quickly so it is interesting that Jephte is being so shy. 

Ryan is very enthusiastic- too enthusiastic.  He reminds me of someone I liked with everything in me but I was not at all physically attracted to him so I had to end it.  I am a bit surprised that Jaclyn is so into him.

Molly and Jonathan look good together and they both said how attracted to each other they are.  I hope there is more to each of them than good looks.  

[crgirl412]

On 1/10/2018 at 0:41 AM, ramble said:

I just recently realized this delicious trash fest was back on.  This is a guilty pleasure of mine. I feel a bit guilty how much pleasure I get from everyone’s emotional dramatics and the overdone editing  

Jepthe appears not cut out for the immediate oversharing this show expects. Did he not understand what he signed up for? Although I personally would have found Shawneice’s wedding day lap dance inappropriate even if they’d known each other since childhood and their families vacationed together. Save it for the bedroom woman. As Black Widow told Captain America, “Public displays of affection make people very uncomfortable.” Yes, yes they do. Especially when it’s in front of the brand new in-laws you literally met that day. 

I can’t let go of Jonathan ditching his job for a low rent reality show. It just screams I have a self promotion plan. Molly seems sweet but her entire family seems to still be coming to terms with the dad’s death and the change in circumstances. I don’t remember how long ago it all happened but it appears to be a fresh wound for them all. Also, if Jon boy really is pressuring her for sex (and it’s not all an editing trick) it will bring my wait and see if he’s a jerk idea solidly into most likely a jerk territory. 

Ryan was SO EXCITED about everything. It’s THE BEST! This is a FAIRYTALE! She’s a DREAM COME TRUE! Good grief man dial it back a bit. I couldn’t get a read on Jaclyn. Was she hopeful about the idea or hopeful about Ryan? Was she glad she did this or putting on a brave face? I guess I’ll have to tune in next week. Drat, they’ve hooked me again! 

EXACTLY!!!!!  Way too excited!!!  Annoyingly so. 

[Primetimer]

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[Soup333]

Jephte’s stranger wife has issues. Low self-esteem, too eager, too horny - I don’t know. But something is just not right about this chick. 

 

SHOCKED that Ryan and Jacklyn had sex!! I wasn’t expecting that. 

[crgirl412]

On 1/12/2018 at 10:43 PM, Blissfool said:

I half-expected jephte's mom to interrupt the lap dance, yank the belt, and through clenched teeth exclaim, "GIVE! ME! BACK! MY! BELT!

 

He's not even smiling in his headshot picture. It looks like a mugshot.

 

Two male friends accompanied him (and best gal pal) when he went tux shopping. I remember thinking he hangs out with an odd bunch. Jonathan seems like a dude-bro, but his three friends were heavyset and dressed like dorks. They didn't seem like his type of crowd.

He might be the really cute friend that stuck with friends from way back when no one was cute/hot.  He does seem like a dude-bro though.....

[humbleopinion]

Please.... let it be a producer placed stunt condom and not the actual their first time banging rubber....ewwww

[Evil Queen]

4 minutes ago, Soup333 said:

Jephte’s stranger wife has issues. Low self-esteem, too eager, too horny - I don’t know. But something is just not right about this chick. 

 

SHOCKED that Ryan and Jacklyn had sex!! I wasn’t expecting that. 

Not on here yet but gee its surprisingly quiet here....or maybe its not. LOL

My guess is she has many issues and they are all why she was picked to do the show because they knew she would up the "drama" factor some. 

There is always at least one couple that seems to jump in like that. I wonder how many regret it the next day and it was fueled by to much booze flowing at the wedding for some? Yet they did seem to hit it off but who knows what the rest of the time will end up being like considering how this show is with butting in and editing. 

Just now, humbleopinion said:

Please.... let it be a producer placed stunt condom and not the actual their first time banging rubber....ewwww

Probably was...this show will stoop to anything it seems. 

[Meowwww]

4 minutes ago, humbleopinion said:

Please.... let it be a producer placed stunt condom and not the actual their first time banging rubber....ewwww

I had the same reaction.  Either way, gross.  I didn’t need to see that. 

[crgirl412]

Ugh!!!!  I posted about 4 things for tonight on lasts week's thread!!!!  I don't know how to fix it!!!  HELLS BELLS!!!  

[Meowwww]

Oh another thing.  

I am 47.  Had I done this show in my 20s, my parents would NOT have supported it.  Nor would parents of friends.  Where do they find all these agreeable parents?

even now, at my age, my mom disapproves of all kinds of things (RIP Dad) and I listen to her.  

Edited January 17, 2018 by Meowwww

[Adeejay]

I don’t believe Jephte is attracted to Shawneice; either that or he lost a bet and had to apply to the show. 

I was surprised to learn that Jaclyn and Ryan had consummated their marriage.  I thought they’d be the last couple to do so.

That Molly is taking it nice and slow seems to have Jon simmering.  Her mother bears a striking resemblance to Shelley Long.

[Evil Queen]

4 minutes ago, crgirl412 said:

Ugh!!!!  I posted about 4 things for tonight on lasts week's thread!!!!  I don't know how to fix it!!!  HELLS BELLS!!!  

You can copy and paste them to this thread. A suggestion would be to copy them into one place like an email then paste them here. Once you do that you can go back to the other thread, delete what you said and just add to the comment wrong thread. 

 

2 minutes ago, Meowwww said:

Oh another thing.  

I am 47.  Had I done this show in my 20s, my parents would NOT have supported it.  Nor would parents of friends.  Where do they find all these agreeable parents?

even now, at my age, my mom disapproves of all kinds of things (RIP Dad) and I listen to her.  

Well considering my mom is a NPD I didn't get much support in anything I have ever done and I never asked for advice from her knowing how it would have gone. Yet being I am a parent there is no way I would approve. I wouldn't want to be on tv at all and would have a good chat with my child on doing it with all the reasons its a bad idea and examples of it. Yet I will bet this show tries its bets to find those that have parents that would be excited about being on tv. Wouldn't be surprised if its a question asked to these people from the get go....something like how would your parents feel about you doing this and being on tv? I wouldn't be surprised as well if parents are contacted before some are even picked to see if they are ok with being on tv and why. The reactions just never seem genuine to me on it. Its either over the top happy or mad or just some place that lands in an area of them trying to act a certain way but not coming off real. Which hell it could be from maybe having to retake shots....yes they do that with this show. 

5 minutes ago, Adeejay said:

That Molly is taking it nice and slow seems to have Jon simmering.  Her mother bears a striking resemblance to Shelley Long.

Smart girl for doing so IMO. Shouldn't have to jump into bed with the person just because you got married. No shame to those that do because its their choice but I think most should get to know the person better before doing so considering how this show goes. 

6 minutes ago, Adeejay said:

I don’t believe Jephte is attracted to Shawneice; either that or he lost a bet and had to apply to the show. 

Wouldn't be surprised there if he isn't attracted to her. Some of the behavior she had from just the wedding alone could turn off many a men I am sure. 

[humbleopinion]

When Jackie said they took a bath together to relax ..that's pretty intimate... so bow chicka wow wow was just more intimacy....

[2727]

Good grief, Shawniece. If she gets this sulky about the way Jephte enters her name into his phone, I can't imagine how she's going to (over)react to important shit.

[humbleopinion]

Think Jon's wedding party are the dudes and dudette he hangs out at the gym... they are his spotters and lifting buddies.

[crgirl412]

Thanks Evil Queen!!!

Replying  to Neurochick about Jon

He might be the really cute friend that stuck with friends from way back when no one was cute/hot. He does seem like a dude-bro though.....

About Ryan

EXACTLY!!!!! Way too excited!!! Annoyingly so.

About Jephte

Usually the man is more into having sex more quickly so it is interesting that Jephte is being so shy. Ryan is very enthusiastic- too enthusiastic. He reminds me of someone I liked with everything in me but I was not...

[Gem 10]

Geeze .. Where to begin.   Why did Jephte even go on this show?   I could see taking things slow but he hardly even looks at Shawnice.  I know she's a stranger, but at least hold her hand and give the girl a little affection .  He didn't even look at her in the limo to the airport.  I know she was a little nuts but I feel sorry for her.  She needs some TLC pronto.

well, the fireman is happy.  It would have been nice if he at least threw the used condom in the waste basket.  SLOB.  He is so hyper with happiness he can't contain himself.   He really wants marriage.  She seems happy .. for now.

Jonathon didn't get lucky yet .. She looks like she wants to, but is taking it slow.  I'm liking him a little more.  What was that thing his friends gave him for the honeymoon that she didn't care for, a sex toy?  If so, what kind?

I DID NOT like that meeting with the sex therapist BEFORE they went on the honeymoon.   I feel it was intrusive.  These are adults that know what and when to have sex, and it's their business .. Not hers.  They all don't need a pep talk or lesson on when to have relations.   She just wanted her five minutes of fame.

Dr. Diet Pepper gave the green light for all the couples for the first night as we all know she just loves sex.

[ChristmasJones]

I am skeptical of Jephte wanting to be married. He is only what, 26? And has been helping raise a bunch of younger siblings?  And he is very introverted?  I just don't believe that deep down he was dying to get married right now.

I think some of his wife's over-the-top behavior is anxiety due to Jephte being so overwhelmed/shut down/introverted. She is feeling insecure due to the way he is acting and this is causing her to try to get a reaction out of him.  She is taking his behavior way too personally.  Its the classic pursuer-distancer dynamic... but a very bad sign that its started this soon.

[humbleopinion]

Google Urban Dictionary Ball gag for those curious about the sex toy Jon offered Molly.

As seen in The Fifty Shades movie.

[Evil Queen]

4 minutes ago, Gem 10 said:

Geeze .. Where to begin.   Why did Jephte even go on this show?   I could see taking things slow but he hardly even looks at Shawnice.  I know she's a stranger, but at least hold her hand and give the girl a little affection .  He didn't even look at her in the limo to the airport.  I know she was a little nuts but I feel sorry for her.  She needs some TLC pronto.

Jonathon didn't get lucky yet .. She looks like she wants to, but is taking it slow.  I'm liking him a little more.  What was that thing his friends gave him for the honeymoon that she didn't care for, a sex toy?  If so, what kind?

I DID NOT like that meeting with the sex therapist BEFORE they went on the honeymoon.   I feel it was intrusive.  These are adults that know what and when to have sex, and it's their business .. Not hers.  They all don't need a pep talk or lesson on when to have relations.   She just wanted her five minutes of fame.

Dr. Diet Pepper gave the green light for all the couples for the first night as we all know she just loves sex.

Well I don't blame the guy. She probably blew any chance she could have had with him because of her behavior and disrespect for him she showed when he said he works with kids then going on to bump, grind and then lap dance at the wedding. Of course he could just not be attracted to her at all and IMO shouldn't give her hope if there is going to be none. Yet should discuss it and where he stands at this point to be respectful of things. 

And I haven't seen it yet but understood he was given a ball gag. I am betting his "friends" are really not anything more then the production crew. 

Still an hour til its on here but I am disturbed in hearing that they had to meet with whoever to discuss sex considering they are adults and its not the producers, friends, parents, or "experts" decision on when and if these couples have sex. We all know pepper is good if you know them or not or just got in the elevator with some random stranger but its not up to her to say they should or shouldn't. They don't need her sorry excuse telling them a thing IMO. 

 

Just now, ChristmasJones said:

I am skeptical of Jephte wanting to be married. He is only what, 26? And has been helping raise a bunch of younger siblings?  And he is very introverted?  I just don't believe that deep down he was dying to get married right now.

I think some of his wife's over-the-top behavior is anxiety due to Jephte being so overwhelmed/shut down/introverted. She is feeling insecure due to the way he is acting and this is causing her to try to get a reaction out of him.  She is taking his behavior way too personally.  Its the classic pursuer-distancer dynamic... but a very bad sign that its started this soon.

I still have an hour til its on but I am wondering if he just is not into her. Not that he is introverted...sorry again don't think he would be here on this show if he was but that is just my opinion on it and he didn't show that before the wedding. I think his over the top wife makes one look that way though for sure and would make some of the most out going people look that way. I guess time will tell with things but maybe she needs to just chill and tone down her crap. Wondering how many relationships she ruined because she is over the top? Where does she rank in her order for siblings? Wonder if she acts this way because she always has in order to get attention..then got it and so its how she has always been and expects others to just be the way her family was with it.....hmmm. Yet I wonder...maybe if she had behaved a little better at the wedding things might be going differently on the honeymoon.

[Yeah No]

11 minutes ago, Gem 10 said:

Geeze .. Where to begin.   Why did Jephte even go on this show?   I could see taking things slow but he hardly even looks at Shawnice.  I know she's a stranger, but at least hold her hand and give the girl a little affection .  He didn't even look at her in the limo to the airport.  I know she was a little nuts but I feel sorry for her.  She needs some TLC pronto.

I would say exactly the same thing.  I know she was over the top at the wedding but in her defense I think she saw even then that he was already not into her and was trying desperately to get a positive reaction out of him.  Him going on and on about how she's a stranger is only showing that he wants more distance from her and that he's not open to getting to know her.  She is understandably taking it as a rejection and it's only coming out as negative which only pushes him further away.  Pastor Cal is full of shit that Shawneice can "draw him out of his shell".  He should know better by now that that usually doesn't work, especially on this show!  

16 minutes ago, Gem 10 said:

Dr. Diet Pepper gave the green light for all the couples for the first night as we all know she just loves sex.

She is still living in some kind of 1970s Erica Jong novel fantasy.

[Yeah No]

I think the problem with Jephte and Shawneice is that he would have been more comfortable with someone more reserved like he is.  And he did say he is reserved about himself in that he likes to take things really slow in terms of getting to know someone and getting close to them.  Shawneice is so outgoing that she is one of those people that likes instantaneous "in your face" connection with someone and she's just not going to get that with Jephte.  The problem is that she's taking it as a rejection, which is only touching on all her rejection issues and making her act in very self-sabotaging ways that will only push him further away from her.

I can remember being on dates with men that were like Shawneice and because I'm generally more reserved myself it was a total turn off to me that they were going so fast for my taste.  It was really nothing wrong with them but just not comfortable for me and only made me dislike them.  If they then went and acted like Shawneice it would only turn me off even more.  So it's like a vicious circle.

Then again I really have to hand it to Molly for keeping her head on straight in spite of her obvious attraction to Jon.  I just hope she doesn't hang back too much and turn him off.

Ryan and Jaclyn - OK they consummated already but I worry about those two for some reason.  There is something about him that seems a little twitchy but I can't figure out why - yet.

[Evil Queen]

4 minutes ago, Yeah No said:

 I know she was over the top at the wedding but in her defense I think she saw even then that he was already not into her and was trying desperately to get a positive reaction out of him. 

  Pastor Cal is full of shit that Shawneice can "draw him out of his shell"

Not sure how her lap dancing or bumping and grinding on him when they danced in front of friends and more importantly family be a good way to try to get a positive reaction out of someone you just meet and married. I wouldn't be surprised if she is pretty forward with men in general and used to them responding the way she wants and he is one of the few not. 

And yea cal is always full of it....oh hell they all are. She keeps up as she did it will draw him further away dumbass! They need to sit and have a calm, non over the top chat without her lap dancing or discussing her masturbation. They both need to be respectful towards each other in it all and put it on the table what they feel at this point and other points during this mess. 

[Soup333]

I wonder if Jephte’s family really had to leave or if they were over this farce of a marriage already. 

 

Jephte might be like me in that once I’m turned off by someone, it’s over. I couldn’t be around someone who took issue with what name I assigned them in my phone. Literally less than 24 hours after I met them. That’s just too much. Who’s to say he might have renamed her Wifey in 6 months - or weeks! But the very next day?? She’s a loon. 

[Gem 10]

4 minutes ago, Yeah No said:

I think the problem with Jephte and Shawneice is that he would have been more comfortable with someone more reserved like he is.  And he did say he is reserved about himself in that he likes to take things really slow in terms of getting to know someone and getting close to them.  Shawneice is so outgoing that she is one of those people that likes instantaneous "in your face" connection with someone and she's just not going to get that with Jephte.  The problem is that she's taking it as a rejection, which is only touching on all her rejection issues and making her act in very self-sabotaging ways that will only push him further away from her.

I can remember being on dates with men that were like Shawneice and because I'm generally more reserved myself it was a total turn off to me that they were going so fast for my taste.  It was really nothing wrong with them but just not comfortable for me and only made me dislike them.  If they then went and acted like Shawneice it would only turn me off even more.  So it's like a vicious circle.

Then again I really have to hand it to Molly for keeping her head on straight in spite of her obvious attraction to Jon.  I just hope she doesn't hang back too much and turn him off.

Ryan and Jaclyn - OK they consummated already but I worry about those two for some reason.  There is something about him that seems a little twitchy but I can't figure out why - yet.

I agree that Shawneice is over the top and Jephte is reserved so didn't the experts see this when they matched them?  Any fool can see that they didn't belong together.  Maybe the lap dance was scripted so it would turn him off and make him the bad guy on the honeymoon or her the"crazy person".  I just don't know what's scripted or not anymore.  All I know is the girl was going on her honeymoon and was so dejected and sad it was pathetic, you know?  Whether it's real or producer driven it still sucks.  I have a love/hate relationship with this show.

[Yeah No]

10 minutes ago, Evil Queen said:

Not sure how her lap dancing or bumping and grinding on him when they danced in front of friends and more importantly family be a good way to try to get a positive reaction out of someone you just meet and married. I wouldn't be surprised if she is pretty forward with men in general and used to them responding the way she wants and he is one of the few not. 

I agree the lap dance was desperate and not the way to attract a shy reserved guy at all but it shows that she doesn't know how to approach that kind of person.  She is probably used to choosing guys that would love that kind of thing (like Pastor Cal, who said in "Unfiltered" that he would have loved the lap dance!!!).  Shawneice doesn't know how to react to someone that isn't into that kind of behavior.  I thought it was crass and inappropriate, but hey if she's into that they should have matched her with someone that was also into it and would have loved it!  I could have seen from a mile away that Jephte would not be into that stuff and someone like Shawneice in general.

[Evil Queen]

11 minutes ago, Gem 10 said:

I agree that Shawneice is over the top and Jephte is reserved so didn't the experts see this when they matched them?  Any fool can see that they didn't belong together.  Maybe the lap dance was scripted so it would turn him off and make him the bad guy on the honeymoon or her the"crazy person".  I just don't know what's scripted or not anymore.  All I know is the girl was going on her honeymoon and was so dejected and sad it was pathetic, you know?  Whether it's real or producer driven it still sucks.  I have a love/hate relationship with this show.

9 minutes ago, Yeah No said:

I agree the lap dance was desperate and not the way to attract a shy reserved guy at all but it shows that she doesn't know how to approach that kind of person.  She is probably used to choosing guys that would love that kind of thing (like Pastor Cal, who said in "Unfiltered" that he would have loved the lap dance!!!).  Shawneice doesn't know how to react to someone that isn't into that kind of behavior.  I thought it was crass and inappropriate, but hey if she's into that they should have matched her with someone that was also into it and would have loved it!  I could have seen from a mile away that Jephte would not be into that stuff and someone like Shawneice in general.

I don't watch that but WTF????? I already take issue that he is suppose to be a Pastor and is doing a show that makes sure to remind us and the couples divorce is an option and how hypocritical that is but now he says that! Shows he is far from a real Pastor IMO. So he would be ok with his just met wife lap dancing for him in front of all his friends and family who just met her as well? WTF is wrong with this idiot? 

I have to say that this show does NOT give a crud about these people. They make sure to match for the "drama" that will come and nothing more. So they make sure to find the one that would be better with someone more over the top with someone more reserved because of the chaos it can create. Its disgusting....why I am still watching I don't know at this point. 

[Gem 10]

Well, that's what I mean.  They are making Shawniece the slut and Jep the nice guy .. or Jep the mean guy and Shawniece the Dejected bride.  Take your pick everyone.  So far Shawniece is the slut.  Maybe that's why Jeps family took off the day after the wedding.   Watch "Unfiltered".  Between overbearing Jamie, Pastor Cal and Dr. PEpper, it's a hoot.

[answerphone]

Wow, when I first saw Shawniece, I thought she was sparkling and adorable.

And then she started talking and all of a sudden, my opinion changed...

[Yeah No]

52 minutes ago, Evil Queen said:

I don't watch that but WTF????? I already take issue that he is suppose to be a Pastor and is doing a show that makes sure to remind us and the couples divorce is an option and how hypocritical that is but now he says that! Shows he is far from a real Pastor IMO. So he would be ok with his just met wife lap dancing for him in front of all his friends and family who just met her as well? WTF is wrong with this idiot? 

I know, I'm with you!  Whatever respect I had left for him (which wasn't much) was totally lost on me with that!  And he stuck to it despite the female experts and Jamie acting disgusted by it.  He made me sick!  He is some phony self-proclaimed pastor of the church in his own mind!  Even diet Dr. Pepper didn't like it!

[Evil Queen]

Shawneice and Jephte - She said she hadn't had sex in 14 months...wasn't she saying 4 yrs and she got through it with masturbation? She was calling him her "eye candy". UGH!! The chemistry is crazy and she will lead if she has to she says and work to do. So she is one of those (seen plenty of men but now its a woman) that won't be able to take the hint to chill out and let him get to know the real her and see if he wants to be with her or not. That maybe he is more of a respectable (as much as one is on this show) man then she is used to and not one to jump into bed with a woman the first night. I said before to some that I wouldn't be surprised if they give him a shitty edit because he isn't "falling in line" with what she wants and more so what the show wants. It seems when one is a little more out there its the more reserved that can get the shit edit to make them look like a jerk, crazy, or just something wrong. OMG poor guy when she is pointing out the condoms. UGH! OMG seriously she pees with the door open. Girl come on!!! Back of already!! Why does it matter what he puts in HIS phone? He gave a good enough reason why he didn't want to add it yet. Geesh! I am betting his family didn't want to deal with them. Wow no wonder she is so out there...listen to Grandma. OMG that whole scene with the "expert" its like hello back off him. He needs that time to get to know each other and they should respect this about him that he didn't want to just jump in bed with. I'm not pitying her in this moment. She hasn't been respectful to him once in this at all IMO with her comments/behaviors and he is trying to be a good guy who doesn't look like a douche that just slept with his *gasp* stranger bride. Instead she should take it as the cue that they need to take some time getting to know each other and mellow on being push. Maybe if she just did this, toned down some things with at least the cameras or others around and showed some respect to not just him but herself. How many damn times will she say "aka your wife"? Its annoying. 

Jaclyn and Ryan - These 2 I can see why they did. They are the only ones showing any chemistry at this point I think. Yet we all know it will be drama, drama, drama for them because of the lost love. Total eeeeewwwww with the condom on the floor. Could have totally edited that out but then we wouldn't know about them having sex otherwise I guess. UM I hope they had to take tests to make sure they didn't have anything (I'm sure they don't) because his talking about not liking to wear condoms grossed me out. I don't care if you were with only certain partners or not...I'd want to know he was disease free. I am hoping she will not let him just go without any time soon. 

Molly and Jon - Of course he wanted to have sex right off the top. He totally comes off that kind of guy. Dude is a bit forward on he sleeps naked thing...it totally came off like a hope she would too and they would get it on. OMG come on...really a ball gag. Yea bet its producers that went with that and told him to ask when they would go to the sex store. I seriously hope he will be respectful if she doesn't want to rush into sex but I get the feeling he isn't used to that happening. 

Did anyone notice that Shawneice and Jephte are the ONLY ones that did NOT sit next to each other at the brunch? No idea if there as an offer to make room for them to be next to each other or just sit in the empty spots but the others were next to each other without issue. 

SERIOUSLY, you want to know how they are communicating when they just meet the day before? WTF?? It feels like its more of a pressure move on the show and "experts" part to make sure they are having sex. Is like back off bitch! She sounds like a robot when she talks. Its a bit annoying. I wish we would have to not here these people at all. They offer nothing and she was sounding like she was stumbling over words at one point too with repeating things in one sentence. UGH! 

And PLEASE STOP REUSING THE SAME DAMN THS OVER AND OVER AGAIN!!!

So guess they found a place to send them all during major hurricane season....Jamaica

[Lily247]

6 hours ago, Evil Queen said:

So guess they found a place to send them all during major hurricane season....Jamaica

 

I was laughing so hard when I read this. Usually the honeymoon destinations on this show tend to be the same old Carribbean islands, either the DR, St. Thomas, Jamaica, Virgin Islands, Bahamas. I guess those are the easiest, most obvious honeymoon locales to send them too. Hurricane Irma was 2 weeks after the honeymoons, just imagine ...  hopefully the show will be more careful next time during August/September. 

[Lily247]

Jon is an immature frat boy in the way that he seems to be totally focused on sex, sex, and sex. I dont see him thinking much about love. They do have a great physical chemistry but I hope that Molly wanting to wait a while wont pose an issue (no wait, of course it will.) That saying when the physical chemistry is so strong, and the couple are sleeping in the same bed every night half naked and cuddling, it could make any guy resentful to be worked up sexually to that level and not be able to have sex with her yet. I would recommend for Molly to sleep in a different bed / sofa until she is sure that she feels ready. That way she could make her intentions more clear and they could get to know each other without being blinded by quick passion, and he would probably respect her more for it. And I really hope the ball gag was a gag joke... 

Jephte does not belong on this show, with his inability to barely make eye contact with his new wife and constant "she's a stranger." Reminds me of Ashley from the David/Ashley season. And Shawniece definitely did not need to take off her makeup, contacts, weave, etc all at one time right in front of her new husband.  I get that she wanted him to see her for who she really is but damn just please wait a little longer when he is more comfortable with you. The way she took off her pretty hairstyle and it turned into a completely different one, plopped on the huge glasses, washed every stitch of makeup from her face... I admire her bravery. But I would have waited a little longer to keep impressing the new guy with her beauty. I remember the first time I spent the night with my current man (who I married), I kept my makeup and contacts on until he fell alseep. Then I took off my contacts, and took off most of the makeup, A few hours later I woke up before him and reapplied small touches of makeup that would still give me the natural look but not made up. I slowly lessened this routine until he was used to seeing me less and less made up. With Shawniece it was like BAM ! Needless to say after 10 years of marriage and 3 kids I dont usually wear makeup at home and hubby is used to it. But I still try to make an effort to look cute. 

I thought the condoms on the floor of Jaclyn and Ryan's room was a gag they had done themselves or a joke... I am surprised they had sex so fast if so. Ryan is a little hard to read, I cant tell if he's a little bit dorky or just hyper all the time. He certainly is able to carry on with many different tasks in life and comes from a stable family, so I will give him the benefit of the doubt. But I would also be disappointed if Jaclyn had told me that she had recently lost her boyfriend 2 years prior. I would comfort her and tell her I was sorry for the loss but now she had a new life with a new husband. And then never bring up or hear the subject again. Trust me, I know, because my husband lost his girlfriend to sudden death before we got married, although a good 6-7 years before we met. But he only brought it up once with some sadness and has never brought it up again. Had it been a recurring issue for him I would not marry/stay married to him. 

Also I think that since the dead boyfriend will be a point of drama, it is considerably disrespectful to his memory and to his family to basically "put him" on this reality show. 

Edited January 17, 2018 by Lily247

[Jassie99]

OY! Okay where do I start...

Lets get the niceness out of the way. 

Ryan and Jacklyn are in it. They like each other and get along. Yes, I do think her past (so soon after a lost) will come to be a hurdling block but they have a connection and easiness to them. Their body language was in tuned to each other. I noticed how she had her hand on his leg as they talked to the sex expert and how easy they seem to be with each other in the limo.  Not just cause they had sex because other couples have had sex first night and then you see nothing or not the level of comfort I saw between these two. Its nice to see. Though I think Ryan is over eager to be married and may expect somethings that just won't happen automatically will be their hurdle along with the loss of her previous love.  Not easy things to get through but if they're committed to making it work I can see it happening.

Molly and Jon seem to be on an okay path. They are friendly, taking it slow and getting to know each other. But both seem all in on the experiment. If she's wasn't "hot" to him I wonder how all in he would be but none the less he is attracted to her. I can see him getting frustrated as she may move too  slow for him as the previews have hinted at but I think they'll make it through as they seem to have a decent connection. Long term? Who knows and we shall see as weeks go on.

Oy! Oy! Oy! Jep and Shawniece....I just don't get it from him at all. Okay I have to defend her a bit at first cause I get her. I can be her at times. As someone who has a lot of reserved friends I can be the "loud" one. Just trying to fill empty silence and make everyone at ease by being silly and hoping to loosen them up. Sometimes I look ridiculous but its all in good fun. I think Shawniece is similar in this way. A bit random, not much of a filter and say things inappropriate that she feels will break the tension and ease the mood.  The lap dance was not needed but it was not done in any serious way. Should she have done it? No.  Would I have done it? No.  But she is nervous and outgoing and trying to get people to like her esp. her husband.

Is she making mistakes? Yes. But she is trying and honestly I do feel bad for her. Why the hell did Jep do this show? His whole "I don't do well with strangers. You're a stranger." spiel makes no sense when he literally signed up to MARRY a stranger. I love when she said he's not even acting like he's interested in being on a FIRST date with her. He's making no effort to be even be a friend towards her.  I just don't get how the guy so excited to get chosen could be THIS reserved and standoffish unless he's just not attracted to her in the least.  I mean I just felt for her from go as she's  obviously all in on the commitment part (maybe a little too much) and had ideas of what marriage is ala Ryan and he is giving her NOTHING. . He couldn't even jokingly put her as wifey in his phone.  He couldn't sit there and have friendly conversation with her in the  limo. He barely looked at her.(I know editing and all that jazz bust sheesh)  She's throwing easy things out there for him to pick up on but at every turn he's making her feel less then. The constant stranger talk is insulting if he's not trying to make her anything but a stranger. He easily opened up about his brother to her Aunt. He was so happy to be cast and yet he's not even friendly or warm towards his wife. What the hell he thought he was shopping rings for...a office party secret Santa gift? I mean I don't even get why she likes him. Other then she believes in the experts and is being told things will change. I feel frustrated for her.

This brings me to something I hate having to discuss but again its hit on the head for  me. We have Mona (S1,,I think that;s her name),, Vanessa, Shelia and now Shawniece as the only AA women being cast for this show.  Four couples out of what 18 and every woman is portrayed as over emotional wrecks with guys who want nothing to do with them (Nate had me fooled). I'm all for diversity and would love to see black love in all its glory but if one can't find men on this show who want to be married then just stop. Its such a messy narrative portrayed time after time.  Its insulting and completely misleading.  Not saying these women were angels and the men are evil but the narrative EVERY TIME for AA is the same. I had hope for J&S after watching the matchmaking episode again he was so excited and maybe they "make it" but I am so sick of this narrative. Most black women are NOT desperate, over emotional and hanging on for dear life for any man to love them. MAFS needs to stop with the BS.

[Empress1]

8 minutes ago, Lily247 said:

Jon is an immature frat boy in the way that he seems to be totally focused on sex, sex, and sex. I dont see him thinking much about love. They do have a great physical chemistry but I hope that Molly wanting to wait a while wont pose an issue (no wait, of course it will.) That saying when the physical chemistry is so strong, and the couple are sleeping in the same bed every night half naked and cuddling, it could make any guy resentful to be worked up sexually to that level and not be able to have sex with her yet. I would recommend for Molly to sleep in a different bed / sofa until she is sure that she feels ready. That way she could make her intentions more clear and they could get to know each other without being blinded by quick passion, and he would probably respect her more for it. And I really hope the ball gag was a gag joke... 

Jephte does not belong on this show, with his inability to barely make eye contact with his new wife and constant "she's a stranger." Reminds me of Ashley from the David/Ashley season. And Shawniece definitely did not need to take off her makeup, contacts, weave, etc all at one time right in front of her new husband.  I get that she wanted him to see her for who she really is but damn just please wait a little longer when he is more comfortable with you. The way she took off her pretty hairstyle and it turned into a completely different one, plopped on the huge glasses, washed every stitch of makeup from her face... I admire her bravery. But I would have waited a little longer to keep impressing the new guy with her beauty. I remember the first time I spent the night with my current man (who I married), I kept my makeup and contacts on until he fell alseep. Then I took off my contacts, and took off most of the makeup, A few hours later I woke up before him and reapplied small touches of makeup that would still give me the natural look but not made up. I slowly lessened this routine until he was used to seeing me less and less made up. With Shawniece it was like BAM ! Needless to say after 10 years of marriage and 3 kids I dont usually wear makeup at home and hubby is used to it. But I still try to make an effort to look cute. 

I thought the condoms on the floor of Jaclyn and Ryan's room was a gag they had done themselves or a joke... I am surprised they had sex so fast if so. Ryan is a little hard to read, I cant tell if he's a little bit dorky or just hyper all the time. He certainly is able to carry on with many different tasks in life and comes from a stable family, so I will give him the benefit of the doubt. But I would also be disappointed if Jaclyn had told me that she had recently lost her boyfriend 2 years prior. I would comfort her and tell her I was sorry for the loss but now she had a new life with a new husband. And then never bring up or hear the subject again. Trust me, I know, because my husband lost his girlfriend to sudden death before we got married, although a good 6-7 years before we met. But he only brought it up once with some sadness and has never brought it up again. Had it been a recurring issue for him I would not marry/stay married to him. 

Also I think that since the dead boyfriend will be a point of drama, it is considerably disrespectful to his memory and to his family to basically "put him" on this reality show. 

I think Shawniece is super cute au naturale. My guess is that she simply washed/wet her hair so that it reverted back to its natural state, and I think her 'fro is adorable. Jephte is Black with many siblings; he's seen a Black woman with natural hair before. And Shawniece has great skin - when she was washing off her makeup I thought, "oh, she doesn't even need much makeup!" I wear contacts most of the time, but I also rock my glasses sometimes and am of the belief that glasses have evolved to the point where there are lots of fashionable options (I have friends who wear glasses all the time who have several pairs and treat them like accessories to their outfits), although I don't like Shawniece's glasses.

Now, I'm going to have to drag Shawniece a little bit, because she really needs to chill out. I am not into cutesy nicknames; people are in my phone as their names, with the exception of my parents and, when they were alive, my grandparents. I will never use the word "hubby;" I think it's silly (I never use baby talk, even to babies). My boyfriends have been in my phone as their names. (When we broke up, some of them were in there as "Do Not Answer," but most often I just deleted their contact info.) And I feel like the show was trying to paint Jephte as being unreasonable when they lost their luggage, which I don't agree with - I love to travel (just got back from an international trip two weeks ago) but it can suck and wear you out. I would just want to take a shower and crash after a long delay and lost luggage, and I wouldn't have the emotional bandwidth to deal with "You don't care that you're with me!" 

THAT said, if Jephte isn't comfortable around strangers, I don't know why he's here. Maybe the show recruited him like they've done for some other guys. But then why go through with it?

I also feel like, more generally, there's a perception that introverts, like, can't function or be around people at all, and that there's something wrong with being introverted, and neither are true. I highly recommend the book Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World that Can't Stop Talking. 

Ryan is SO CORNY and those giant American flag boxers were the least sexy thing ever. Jackie doesn't seem to mind though. If nothing else, they plan to get laid over the course of this experiment, given that they were talking about contraception (which, good for them).

Jonathan and Molly's storyline is going to be about their different attitudes about sex. The ball gag was a bit much, even as a joke, and she clearly didn't think it was funny. 

[Pepper Mostly]

9 hours ago, Gem 10 said:

Geeze .. Where to begin.   Why did Jephte even go on this show?   I could see taking things slow but he hardly even looks at Shawnice.  I know she's a stranger, but at least hold her hand and give the girl a little affection .  He didn't even look at her in the limo to the airport.  I know she was a little nuts but I feel sorry for her.  She needs some TLC pronto.

 

 

9 hours ago, ChristmasJones said:

I am skeptical of Jephte wanting to be married. He is only what, 26? And has been helping raise a bunch of younger siblings?  And he is very introverted?  I just don't believe that deep down he was dying to get married right now.

I think some of his wife's over-the-top behavior is anxiety due to Jephte being so overwhelmed/shut down/introverted. She is feeling insecure due to the way he is acting and this is causing her to try to get a reaction out of him.  She is taking his behavior way too personally.  Its the classic pursuer-distancer dynamic... but a very bad sign that its started this soon.

 

42 minutes ago, Jassie99 said:

Oy! Oy! Oy! Jep and Shawniece....I just don't get it from him at all. Okay I have to defend her a bit at first cause I get her. I can be her at times. As someone who has a lot of reserved friends I can be the "loud" one. Just trying to fill empty silence and make everyone at ease by being silly and hoping to loosen them up. Sometimes I look ridiculous but its all in good fun. I think Shawniece is similar in this way. A bit random, not much of a filter and say things inappropriate that she feels will break the tension and ease the mood.  The lap dance was not needed but it was not done in any serious way. Should she have done it? No.  Would I have done it? No.  But she is nervous and outgoing and trying to get people to like her esp. her husband.

Is she making mistakes? Yes. But she is trying and honestly I do feel bad for her. Why the hell did Jep do this show? His whole "I don't do well with strangers. You're a stranger." spiel makes no sense when he literally signed up to MARRY a stranger. I love when she said he's not even acting like he's interested in being on a FIRST date with her. He's making no effort to be even be a friend towards her.  I just don't get how the guy so excited to get chosen could be THIS reserved and standoffish unless he's just not attracted to her in the least.  I mean I just felt for her from go as she's  obviously all in on the commitment part (maybe a little too much) and had ideas of what marriage is ala Ryan and he is giving her NOTHING. . He couldn't even jokingly put her as wifey in his phone.  He couldn't sit there and have friendly conversation with her in the  limo. He barely looked at her.(I know editing and all that jazz bust sheesh)  She's throwing easy things out there for him to pick up on but at every turn he's making her feel less then. The constant stranger talk is insulting if he's not trying to make her anything but a stranger. He easily opened up about his brother to her Aunt. He was so happy to be cast and yet he's not even friendly or warm towards his wife. What the hell he thought he was shopping rings for...a office party secret Santa gift? I mean I don't even get why she likes him. Other then she believes in the experts and is being told things will change. I feel frustrated for her.

 

All of the above. I am firmly Team Shawniece after last night. Yes, she is a bit much. Yes, her reactions to Jepthe's coldness seem needy and desperate. Yes, she needs to step back, review her feelings and actions, and consider another course. She probably has a history of diving into relationships too fast and furious, and has lost more than one guy by being too all in too soon. But Jepthe is acting like a hostage. He's so cold and borderline cruel in his interactions with her. He can't think of anything nice to say or stares broodingly out the window. When she playfully says "well, we weathered traveling together" he just looks at her says flatly "traveling sucks!" What a fucking douche. She may be over the top but he is sulky, unpleasant and acting like a teenager. They cannot communicate with each other and I think the difference between them is that Shawniece would be open to trying something different, but he isn't. Its his way or no way. She is married and wants to stay married and wants love to grow between them. He's already checked out.

[humbleopinion]

Jephte needs to pull a Heather and put us out of our misery now.... He shuts down when he is upset, angry, disappointed...he does not emote...reminiscent of Moustashely.

He resorts to the thousand yard stare as a way to check out from the film crew, producers and especially Shawniece.

Bring in the alternate couple matched and ready to step in, get married and flown in to honeymoon in Jamacia...please.

The only time Jephte looked happy was at the in laws breakfast...you could tell he is comfortable with the table of elders...he opened up, he was respectful, he looked relieved to have others be buffers between him and his stranger wife.

Shawniece need to realize when the red camera light is on she doesn't need to be crying, making sexual innuendos, baiting Jephte...she is naturally personable and the camera loves her... stop poking Jephte to provoke him into interactions, he is  coming off as a  whiny bore.

Shawniece is justified to have a bad mood, having to coddle her downer husband all the way to Jamacia.

Next time let the producers hold his hand during the layover and made your way to the airport bar....or Cinnabon...to self medicate with booze or a sugar bomb.

Jephte is the new Danielle and is going to piss us off all season with the "stranger" defense.

Gonna be flipping lots of tables this season...

[SecretSK]

11 hours ago, humbleopinion said:

Please.... let it be a producer placed stunt condom and not the actual their first time banging rubber....ewwww

Bwahaha, stunt condom. Let's hope so. The strategic placement among the discarded flowers was just odd... And really gross.

I'm really surprised they went for it. Ryan just seems so.. ridiculously eager. Jaclyn doesn't seem like the type to be swept away by the situation, but crazier things have happened. I don't see a ton of chemistry there, but apparently they disagree.  I'm curious to see where this goes.

I see more sparks between Molly and Jonathan, but something is holding her back. Will she warm up and relax?

[Racj82]

This is the thing about this show. There is no wrong way to react to this initially. Withdrawn, over eager, horny whatever. This is basically a first date with a marriage attached.

One person feels closed off. Yeah. He married a stranger. One that's at a eleven. It may be hard for the guy to fully let his guard down but the time should be allotted. It's been a few days. I don't even think he's being cold. Shes pressing for responses and reactions that he's not ready for yet.

I also get why she is over eager. He's too silent. She's all in. Neither of them are wrong but it makes for a terrible meshing.

A couple slept together first night. Fine. They are married. Standard dating methods don't really apply here. They already messed that up. I've been of the mind that you should do what you feel anyway. If the chemistry is there, go for it. Do what you feel.

On the other hand, Molly is moving just fine. No need to relax. They are in two different places physically but it won't work until they are both in the same place. So, by all means, take it slow. Jon, shut up about it. Nothing wrong with feeling that instant chemistry. But, read the room man.

Regarding Jon's friends. I don't know why it matters what they look like. They are his friends. There's no manual for how your friends look. If personality wise they didn't mesh, that would be weird. That fact that they aren't Meatheads isn't.

Pastor Cal has a little freak in him regarding the lap dance? So... I mean, it just doesn't surprise me and him being a pastor doesn't make him saintly. I think he is crazy for wanting it at the reception but that's his business.

[Soup333]

Team Jephte here and I doubt that will change as the season progresses but stranger things have happened. The best thing that could happen for him is to call it quits after they come back from the honeymoon. I'm rooting for the immediate absolution of this "marriage." The more I see of his immature wife, the less I like her. She's reminding my of Sam in a way. They're both annoying as hell (though Sam has REAL issues) and just like I hoped Neal would eventually gain freedom from his bride, I wish the same for Jephte. He'd have been much better matched with a more mature person.  

[gonecrackers]

I'm a DVR'r; can't see this until later, but between the lap dance, ball gag, condoms on floors, & more, I can see they're keeping it classy this season.

Lots to look forward to...

Edited January 17, 2018 by gonecrackers

[Gem 10]

3 hours ago, Pepper Mostly said:

 

 

All of the above. I am firmly Team Shawniece after last night. Yes, she is a bit much. Yes, her reactions to Jepthe's coldness seem needy and desperate. Yes, she needs to step back, review her feelings and actions, and consider another course. She probably has a history of diving into relationships too fast and furious, and has lost more than one guy by being too all in too soon. But Jepthe is acting like a hostage. He's so cold and borderline cruel in his interactions with her. He can't think of anything nice to say or stares broodingly out the window. When she playfully says "well, we weathered traveling together" he just looks at her says flatly "traveling sucks!" What a fucking douche. She may be over the top but he is sulky, unpleasant and acting like a teenager. They cannot communicate with each other and I think the difference between them is that Shawniece would be open to trying something different, but he isn't. Its his way or no way. She is married and wants to stay married and wants love to grow between them. He's already checked out.

 

3 hours ago, Pepper Mostly said:

 

All of the above. I am firmly Team Shawniece after last night. Yes, she is a bit much. Yes, her reactions to Jepthe's coldness seem needy and desperate. Yes, she needs to step back, review her feelings and actions, and consider another course. She probably has a history of diving into relationships too fast and furious, and has lost more than one guy by being too all in too soon. But Jepthe is acting like a hostage. He's so cold and borderline cruel in his interactions with her. He can't think of anything nice to say or stares broodingly out the window. When she playfully says "well, we weathered traveling together" he just looks at her says flatly "traveling sucks!" What a fucking douche. She may be over the top but he is sulky, unpleasant and acting like a teenager. They cannot communicate with each other and I think the difference between them is that Shawniece would be open to trying something different, but he isn't. Its his way or no way. She is married and wants to stay married and wants love to grow between them. He's already checked out.

YES !  Thank you .. Exactly how I feel.  We know she's a little nuts and we know he doesn't belong with her .. Totally mismatched.  But, he should sit her down and have a heart to heart and talk everything out.  Tell each other what they want and don't want.  They may miss a great opportunity here.  Besides he's acting like a mean person and she doesn't deserve that.  Guess the little dance backfired on her, but she can learn how to calm down.  

[MV713]

I'm calling BS on the used condom - BUT I watched with captions on and in the limo to the airport Ryan and Jacklyn were talking about birth control and how he has never had to use condoms before... so perhaps they did have sex but I think the used one on the floor was for camera.  Anyone catch Ryan's American "FLAGPOLE"  when they filmed the bed scene?  EW.

 

Also Jon and Molly in bed, he said something like he slept fine until she woke him up for 2 hour activity in the middle of the night. And she was like "was it really that long?" - but then I don't think anything happened because she was wearing her brunch dress in a TH and said she would like to have sex with Jon, but not yet.

[txhorns79]

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Jephte is the new Danielle and is going to piss us off all season with the "stranger" defense.

I'm not pissed off by him so much as perplexed.  His comments about Shawneice being a stranger are mostly true (i.e. they know each other a little better than virtual strangers, but not much), but I do question his attitude towards strangers given he apparently was fine with marrying a total stranger for a tv show. 

I'm also fully convinced that the clip they showed last week of Dr. Jessica yelling about someone lying to her will be a misdirection, and we'll find out that she was really yelling at a pizza delivery boy for screwing up her order. 

[Pepper Mostly]

1 hour ago, Gem 10 said:

 

YES !  Thank you .. Exactly how I feel.  We know she's a little nuts and we know he doesn't belong with her .. Totally mismatched.  But, he should sit her down and have a heart to heart and talk everything out.  Tell each other what they want and don't want.  They may miss a great opportunity here.  Besides he's acting like a mean person and she doesn't deserve that.  Guess the little dance backfired on her, but she can learn how to calm down.  

Agreed. She's baffled and hurt because he's acting like she has no right to be bothering him with all this "wife" nonsense! Dude, you supposedly wanted to get married! No one made you do it! Jephthe looks like he ate a bad clam. I feel terrible for her. He's not even trying.

[Lily247]

"I just found out that my wife likes to pee with the door open." -Jephte. 

[qtpye]

16 hours ago, Soup333 said:

Jephte’s stranger wife has issues. Low self-esteem, too eager, too horny - I don’t know. But something is just not right about this chick. 

 

SHOCKED that Ryan and Jacklyn had sex!! I wasn’t expecting that. 

 

16 hours ago, humbleopinion said:

Please.... let it be a producer placed stunt condom and not the actual their first time banging rubber....ewwww

Ryan seemed to be way to dorkily pleased that they has sex and seemed to want to announce it to the world with that overly loud whisper.  "I've had one night stands before..."...sure you have.

16 hours ago, 2727 said:

Good grief, Shawniece. If she gets this sulky about the way Jephte enters her name into his phone, I can't imagine how she's going to (over)react to important shit.

 

15 hours ago, Evil Queen said:

Well I don't blame the guy. She probably blew any chance she could have had with him because of her behavior and disrespect for him she showed when he said he works with kids then going on to bump, grind and then lap dance at the wedding. Of course he could just not be attracted to her at all and IMO shouldn't give her hope if there is going to be none. Yet should discuss it and where he stands at this point to be respectful of things. 

And I haven't seen it yet but understood he was given a ball gag. I am betting his "friends" are really not anything more then the production crew. 

Still an hour til its on here but I am disturbed in hearing that they had to meet with whoever to discuss sex considering they are adults and its not the producers, friends, parents, or "experts" decision on when and if these couples have sex. We all know pepper is good if you know them or not or just got in the elevator with some random stranger but its not up to her to say they should or shouldn't. They don't need her sorry excuse telling them a thing IMO. 

 

I still have an hour til its on but I am wondering if he just is not into her. Not that he is introverted...sorry again don't think he would be here on this show if he was but that is just my opinion on it and he didn't show that before the wedding. I think his over the top wife makes one look that way though for sure and would make some of the most out going people look that way. I guess time will tell with things but maybe she needs to just chill and tone down her crap. Wondering how many relationships she ruined because she is over the top? Where does she rank in her order for siblings? Wonder if she acts this way because she always has in order to get attention..then got it and so its how she has always been and expects others to just be the way her family was with it.....hmmm. Yet I wonder...maybe if she had behaved a little better at the wedding things might be going differently on the honeymoon.

 

15 hours ago, Yeah No said:

I would say exactly the same thing.  I know she was over the top at the wedding but in her defense I think she saw even then that he was already not into her and was trying desperately to get a positive reaction out of him.  Him going on and on about how she's a stranger is only showing that he wants more distance from her and that he's not open to getting to know her.  She is understandably taking it as a rejection and it's only coming out as negative which only pushes him further away.  Pastor Cal is full of shit that Shawneice can "draw him out of his shell".  He should know better by now that that usually doesn't work, especially on this show!  

She is still living in some kind of 1970s Erica Jong novel fantasy.

 

15 hours ago, Yeah No said:

I think the problem with Jephte and Shawneice is that he would have been more comfortable with someone more reserved like he is.  And he did say he is reserved about himself in that he likes to take things really slow in terms of getting to know someone and getting close to them.  Shawneice is so outgoing that she is one of those people that likes instantaneous "in your face" connection with someone and she's just not going to get that with Jephte.  The problem is that she's taking it as a rejection, which is only touching on all her rejection issues and making her act in very self-sabotaging ways that will only push him further away from her.

I can remember being on dates with men that were like Shawneice and because I'm generally more reserved myself it was a total turn off to me that they were going so fast for my taste.  It was really nothing wrong with them but just not comfortable for me and only made me dislike them.  If they then went and acted like Shawneice it would only turn me off even more.  So it's like a vicious circle.

Then again I really have to hand it to Molly for keeping her head on straight in spite of her obvious attraction to Jon.  I just hope she doesn't hang back too much and turn him off.

Ryan and Jaclyn - OK they consummated already but I worry about those two for some reason.  There is something about him that seems a little twitchy but I can't figure out why - yet.

The most awful thing to watch on this show is when one person is all in and the other person is not having it.  I think Shawnice's behavior totally turned off Jephte, even if he was physically attracted to her when she walked down the aisle.  I think she lost the script when she did the lap dance and sealed the deal with peeing with the door open.  I really hope one of them has the dignity to pull a Heather, because that guy does not want to be married to this lady.  He thinks she is crass and rightly or wrongly, that is not wife material to him.

[lh25]

13 minutes ago, qtpye said:

  I think Shawnice's behavior totally turned off Jephte, even if he was physically attracted to her when she walked down the aisle.  I think she lost the script when she did the lap dance and sealed the deal with peeing with the door open. 

I think it was the lap dance, right after she had talked about masturbation and he was all "I'm an elementary school teacher" to try and get her to back down.  She can't read him at all.  And they don't seem suited one bit.

[Adeejay]

4 hours ago, Racj82 said:

Pastor Cal has a little freak in him regarding the lap dance? So... I mean, it just doesn't surprise me and him being a pastor doesn't make him saintly. I think he is crazy for wanting it at the reception but that's his business.

Let's not forget that this is the same guy who said, "nothing is unforgivable."