S05.E02: Ghosted

[lightninggirl]

3 hours ago, Ravenna said:

I'd seriously would LOVE if someday one of these people sue her big fabulous ass for sexual harassment. 

One thing that stopped me was when her friend Donna said, kinda under her breath, "And we all know how much you love putting your hands on me." We've seen the two of them in a few compromising situations, like when Babs walked in on them naked, and I'm wondering if it's truly not one of those things where Whitney pressures manipulates Donna into giving her massages and other things that are probably a little too close for Donna's comfort. I've seen it made mention quite a few times that Donna was 'into' Whitney and 'probably' a lesbian, but the way Donna said that on Ep.2 really made me think that Donna's gotten the short end of the stick here with speculation, etc.

[Kid]

5 hours ago, writerchick57 said:

This photo of Whitney does belong in this thread, because it's on her FB page promoting her newest episode last night.  What the H@ll is the star on her boob about???  I swear, I've said it before, she should be in porn.  Why is she such a tramp???

 

You got a check out a woman named Rebecca’s comment(The first comment under Whitney’s tirade and picture)!!  She was spot on.  Also note Whitney’s response.  The girl does not like the truth.

[goofygirl]

My poor little Whitnit  .This scam of Ari's just goes to show.... YOU ARE AN IDIOT!!!!  But we knew that already, didn't we?

[MegD]

I wonder if the whole "Whit in a Bridal dress" scene was dreamed up by Twit. It could be a perfect show arc where we have Twit finds her true love and then all the fun of wedding prep to get through the season. Only, once it got started, Twit blew her stack on SM with Avi and so they couldn't use the story anymore, but since the store was probably already lined up, that portion had to continue. Last season, her "pregnancy scare" she managed to keep off social media before the scare was over. Twit was not pleased that the story had to continue and was doing her best to make it as uncomfortable as possible.

[goofygirl]

The whole damn thing was bullshit. Avi and "Lurve" : BS Wedding dress shopping? BS  The fact that the bridal salon even had TWO DRESSES in size "Omar the tent maker" available? BS!!

It's like if I wanted to go wedding dress shopping... My husband died in 2007.  I haven't been on ONE date.  I weigh 90 pounds and am barely 5 feet tall.  GEE! I think I want to try on some wedding dresses! HUH???

Ate up with the dumbass.

[tdanaher]

15 hours ago, ClareWalks said:

There must be some sort of optical "magic eye" shit going on because it seems like half of people think she looks much thinner, and half of people think she looks much fatter. I think she looks about the same - she has always (in the tenure of the show) been so morbidly obese that I don't think even 40-50 lb will make much of a difference in her appearance. She claims she has lost no weight since the series started, which means she has gained back about 30 lb since last season.

Amen! I find myself thinking "she is so GROSS" all the time, but it is almost never about how she looks. It's the behaviors and her general "vibe" that does it.

Let’s go to the screengrabs! First picture is from her first season, broadcast January 27, 2015 so filmed in 2014, and then from this most recent episode, so filmed mid-2017-ish.

[AUJulia]

6 minutes ago, tdanaher said:

Let’s go to the screengrabs! First picture is from her first season, broadcast January 27, 2015 so filmed in 2014, and then from this most recent episode, so filmed mid-2017-ish.

Looks bigger now?

[Cherpumple]

I know the BGDC is totally fake, but if we play along with the charade as presented, I can't believe how unfair she's being to Todd, and what a complete self-sabotager she's being. Yes, her plans have changed, but rather than trying to screw over Todd and a promise of employment, as the "business owner" (eyeroll), this actually presents her with a fantastic opportunity to grow and expand that she's stubbornly ignoring. With another experienced and enthusiastic teacher at her side, she could double her number of classes, and they could try different ways to increase their enrolment, like offering a variety of classes- low impact and high impact, beginner and advanced, one in the morning and one in the evening, one on the east side of town and one on the west side, etc. Or she could step back from teaching altogether, and focus on growing the brand by developing a technique/methodology for BGDC and bringing in more teachers while Todd keeps running the existing classes. Again, I know this is all fake, but it's shocking to see this woman be so mean-spirited and short-sighted, especially towards one of her alleged best friends. I get the feeling that she'd burn BGDC to the ground rather than give up an ounce of control, or admit that Todd has had any positive influence on it. Pathetic.

As for the other storylines, I'm intrigued by this whole Avi thing. I have no problem with exposing serial cheaters/manipulators, especially ones who are still actively trolling for more victims, and I want to hear more from Nada. But I also have no doubt that Whitney will go way over the top with her need for closure/revenge, and I'm ready to cringe all the way through it.

Buddy's behavior towards Heather is disgusting. This woman is obviously deeply hurt and confused about their situation, and he can't be bothered to step up and give her a definitive answer he knows he owes her about where things stand or what went wrong, just because he feels uncomfortable. Cry me a fucking river, you big loser. And Heather, you can do so much better!

[notyrmomma]

48 minutes ago, AUJulia said:

Looks bigger now?

From looking at these pictures, I think she looks way bigger.  It's all in her ass and her legs.  But pictures can be deceiving so who knows.

[Starry Eyes]

11 hours ago, WhatsUpDummy said:

I hope this was all scripted

I n ow know that 'reality shows' are NOT reality shows.  A bitter disappointment. 

Buddy went MIA and Lennie went MIA, and Todd went MIA on her, so all she's got left are her gal pals and Tal is now kissing her big fat butt.  How pathetic of a life she must have.  Not that we know anything about her life, since it's not a reality after all.  I even thought at one point that she was wearing a fake fat belt, and she's actually skinny, but TLC wanted her to play the part.  LOL

9 hours ago, Kid said:

The girl does not like the truth.

I saw that and the nit's pounced on her so hatefully.  I do not consider this forum to be hateful on her.  I consider us to like to be entertained by her and a lot of the times, are just worried about her health.  But you can't say that to any nit-whits, as they will pounce on you with furry.  Sad that Whitney has such a negative group following her.

2 hours ago, AUJulia said:

Looks bigger now?

Yes she looks quite a bit bigger, and there's her infamous flip-flops...

[Starry Eyes]

10 hours ago, lightninggirl said:

Donna's gotten the short end of the stick here with speculation, etc.

Like any of Whitney's so called fake friends, Whit is a great manipulator, and anyone that gets into her path is a gonner, that includes Donna.  I'm surprised that Donna and Heather still remain fit and trim.  Wonder what happened with Buddy.

[Alapaki]

3 hours ago, tdanaher said:

Let’s go to the screengrabs!

I think Whitney has just scaled-up all over.  You can really tell if you go back to the confessionals from Season 1, where she seems to be sitting in an ordinary chair.  We've since seen from later season reunions that she takes up an entire love-seat and more than half of a regular couch.  

As far as people's mixed perceptions of weight gain/loss this season, I do think that in her confessionals, where she's had the benefit of the Production Company's make-up team and better, longer hair extensions, her face looks a bit thinner.  (I think generally her face looks thinner with longer hair).  But notice that many of those confessionals are shot in more of a close-up, so we can't see how much space her body is actually taking up on the chair/couch/bench.

[winsomeone]

If Avi is smart, he will get a restraining order against Whitney. What right does she have to drag him through the mud on national TV? I wonder if they even had one date, or just "talked" online. She is always sexually harassing someone right in front of our eyes.

[AUJulia]

15 minutes ago, winsomeone said:

If Avi is smart, he will get a restraining order against Whitney. What right does she have to drag him through the mud on national TV? I wonder if they even had one date, or just "talked" online. She is always sexually harassing someone right in front of our eyes.

She described his penis to Babs but who knows what that means?

[lightninggirl]

4 minutes ago, AUJulia said:

She described his penis to Babs but who knows what that means?

It means that she was probably describing the pictures he sent her. Probably wasn't even his own penis - he probably had a stunt cock fill in for him to get the $1,900 out of her!

[AUJulia]

14 minutes ago, lightninggirl said:

It means that she was probably describing the pictures he sent her. Probably wasn't even his own penis - he probably had a stunt cock fill in for him to get the $1,900 out of her!

That would be a great screen name.  Stunt Cock. 

[Kid]

50 minutes ago, lightninggirl said:

It means that she was probably describing the pictures he sent her. Probably wasn't even his own penis - he probably had a stunt cock fill in for him to get the $1,900 out of her!

Burn!!! 

[TurtlePower]

20 hours ago, John M said:

It looks like she has gained a significant amount of weight to me however it looks like it has mostly gone to her legs and lower section of her body giving the optical illusion that her top portion is looking thinner. I meant to mention this earlier but in the kitchen scene she is literally wider than the space between the kitchen counter and the island. It's just a passing shot but they show her starting to turn, realizing she can't fit and awkwardly sidestepping instead.

Doesn't look thinner on top to me. In fact, when she was flopped on her bed, I noticed that her arms did not look like arms. They looked round and formless and blended with the rest of her, as if she could have been a walrus. 

Edited January 11, 2018 by TurtlePower

[ClareWalks]

The more I think about it, the more I think she DOES look heavier. Her limbs look...swollen, for lack of a better word. And her middle is extremely thick. She basically has no waist anymore. (she didn't have much of one before...in her season 1 measurement for a dress, her waist was 50 inches)

[PityFree]

1 hour ago, AUJulia said:

She described his penis to Babs but who knows what that means?

This is something I will never understand: the over-sharing with her parents.  Maybe it’s generational (I’m in my late 40s) but I’m pretty much OK keeping up the ruse that I’m still a virgin in front of my parents—and for that matter, I think my parents are OK with it also.

[Starsandbucks]

That poor bridal salon. They probably thought they’d get some nice publicity getting to showcase that they carry plus sizes in-store. Instead, they got Whitney complaining that she felt sweaty and itchy, who then takes a seat in the public parlor area in her underwear. What a disaster. 

[John M]

5 hours ago, tdanaher said:

Let’s go to the screengrabs! First picture is from her first season, broadcast January 27, 2015 so filmed in 2014, and then from this most recent episode, so filmed mid-2017-ish.

 

What is obvious to me is regardless if she had gained fat since the first season it seems more than apparent that she has a pretty bad case of lymphedema that is getting worse. I've watched enough of M600L to know that you don't want lymphedema, it's way worse than just weighing 600lbs. 

[TurtlePower]

3 hours ago, writerchick57 said:

I n ow know that 'reality shows' are NOT reality shows.  A bitter disappointment. 

Buddy went MIA and Lennie went MIA, and Todd went MIA on her, so all she's got left are her gal pals and Tal is now kissing her big fat butt.  How pathetic of a life she must have.  Not that we know anything about her life, since it's not a reality after all.  I even thought at one point that she was wearing a fake fat belt, and she's actually skinny, but TLC wanted her to play the part.  LOL

I saw that and the nit's pounced on her so hatefully.  I do not consider this forum to be hateful on her.  I consider us to like to be entertained by her and a lot of the times, are just worried about her health.  But you can't say that to any nit-whits, as they will pounce on you with furry.  Sad that Whitney has such a negative group following her.

Yes she looks quite a bit bigger, and there's her infamous flip-flops...

I don't condone hateful comments, but it looks like the tide has turned against Whitney. When will it be enough of a wake-up call for her? Her game is getting old and everyone sees through it. 

Yeah, flip flops on the woman who insists people wear shoes in her dance class because they need the support. Saw her switch to flip flops in the 5k, too. This is what everyone is so SICK of. 

[Dot]

6 hours ago, AUJulia said:

Looks bigger now?

Thanks for providing this comparison.Yes, she looks like she is close to 500 #s now.

[Dot]

1 hour ago, John M said:

 

What is obvious to me is regardless if she had gained fat since the first season it seems more than apparent that she has a pretty bad case of lymphedema that is getting worse. I've watched enough of M600L to know that you don't want lymphedema, it's way worse than just weighing 600lbs. 

Yep & thanks for proving addituonal screenshots.

I know there was an earlier discussion about the dif between lipidema (water) & lymphedema (glands, I think). Maybe one of you medical fypes could give us a refresher course. (I think the last discussion concluded Twit has lipidema).

[AUJulia]

1 hour ago, Starsandbucks said:

That poor bridal salon. They probably thought they’d get some nice publicity getting to showcase that they carry plus sizes in-store. Instead, they got Whitney complaining that she felt sweaty and itchy, who then takes a seat in the public parlor area in her underwear. What a disaster. 

What bugged me was when Lauren the bridal consultant asked if she could show them anything else, all she got back was (from Sweatney) "we're good." Like it was her fault the whole experience was tacky. Yeah, don't bother thanking her. 

[Emma C]

Regardless of how she got this big, I cannot imagine living in a body that size. It must be awful. NO ONE could be happy that big. Delusional.

[Starry Eyes]

1 minute ago, Emma C said:

NO ONE could be happy that big. Delusional.

But,she has a fat fabulous life!!!!!

[Bugfrey Von]

17 hours ago, PityFree said:

Buddy looks like he woke up next to a dumpster. 

SCREAMING.  I was sick recently and (don't judge me) watched some of the first episodes of MBBFL.  Buddy was a different person.  It's actually pretty terrifying. Lay of the cereal and, ya know...meth.  Being on this show is the worse thing that could have happened to that poor man.  Whole milk and sugary cereal?  Pizza?  Whitney just does. not. give. a. fuck.  

Speaking of the good old days (2 years ago), Tal has really become a sniveling little shit, hasn't he?  When the show started, he definitely gave Whitney the old what-for, mocking her at times, not taking much shit from her....  How the times have changed.  Todd was given the role of villain this season, he can barely stay in character.  Eye-rolling.

ASHLEY'S idea to go to the bridal store is soooooo stupid.  ASHLEY forced our poor girl.  ASHLEY made her get in those dresses.  The dresses were hideous.  What was Whitney wearing walking into that store.  What was that? How dreadful.  And sitting on the couch and walking around the store in her underwear?  Fuck no.  No one should do that shit.  No one.  No one wants your shit stains on the couch, Whit.  I hope that salon got compensated dearly for that little exercise in masturbation.  I know that if I walked into a boutique and saw ANYONE prancing around in their sweaty underwear, I'd be out.  Goodbye!  That little "She doesn't look better than you"  dig Babs had toward Heather was unnecessary.  Babs wanted Buddy and Whit to get together, but he obviously preferred Heather.  

1900 dollars.  Girl.  GIRL.  

Also, when the barnacles start to show dissension in the ranks, you know it's time to let it go.  Let it goooooo!  

[Thrifty]

I don't watch this show, but from reading these threads, I have the feeling that it's more entertaining that way.

[Dot]

1 hour ago, Bugfrey Von said:

SCREAMING.  I was sick recently and (don't judge me) watched some of the first episodes of MBBFL. . . .

Speaking of the good old days (2 years ago), Tal has really become a sniveling little shit, hasn't he?  . . ..

Tal has definitely fallen under Twit's spell & become her gay poodle, supplanting Todd who pretty much has quit enabling her, tying her shoes, etc. Maybe it's becuz he was not in the Twit h.s. clique of Mean Girls & is overcompensating now for that snub. Whatever, I can't stand him & his toadying to Twit. It's bad enuf on MBFFL; worse on SM.

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ASHLEY'S idea to go to the bridal store is soooooo stupid.  

I recall enjoying Ashley in S-1, then she kinda disappeared, surfacing only infrequently thereafter. I like her a lot better than Heather who is almost as much a zero as Lennie. Ashley is the only one in the gang -- aside from her cousin & now villian Todd -- who has Twit's number: "It's not about you [as birthing coach]" & "I'm just glad she's wearing underwear" about the wedding salon couch.

Edited January 11, 2018 by Dot

[AUJulia]

7 minutes ago, Dot said:

Tal has definitely fallen under Twit's spell & become her gay poodle, supplanting Todd who pretty much has quit enabling her, tying her shoes, etc. Maybe it's becuz he was not in the Twit h.s. clique of Mean Girls & is overcompensating now for that snub. Whatever, I can't stand him & his toadying to Twit. It's bad enuf on MBFFL; worse on SM.

I recall enjoying Ashley in S-1, then she kinda disappeared, surfacing only infrequently thereafter. I like her a lot better than Heather who is almost as much a zero as Lennie. Ashley is the only one in the gang -- aside from her cousin & now villian Todd -- who has Twit's number: "It's not about you [as birthing coach" & "I'm just glad she's wearing underwear" about the wedding salon couch.

Poodle or Boo-dle? ?

[Dot]

1 minute ago, AUJulia said:

Poodle or Boo-dle? ?

?

[monagatuna]

17 hours ago, WhatsUpDummy said:

Sorry, but that baby shower looked incredibly dull. 

Baby showers are awful in general--I only go to them if I have to (say, for work, and even then I won't go if men aren't also required to go--if I have to feign interest in someone's kid, everyone does), but this one looked especially bad. Maybe it was the hideous yellow cinderblocks or the lack of natural lighting or the "I'm so sweaty" greeting to everyone. They usually at least try to mimic some sort of revelry, and the decent ones offer alcohol to those who partake, but this one was just depressing. 

[thebigboot]

Here are the facts of life. She has gotten bigger, she has consistently gotten bigger since first season. Photos don’t lie, yeah a few of them could be well just the angle but we also have videos of her, and proof her mobility is not like it was season one.

If I were the bridal salon I would have just burned the dress after.

[yogi2014L]

22 hours ago, LordOfLotion said:

I just had an awful thought. What if she was too winded to get up and get dressed, and was resting so that she could put her clothes back on? I mean it was just a pullover dress, but still.

Its possible, I am a normal size very active person and I got tired wedding dress shopping lol

[skippy]

On ‎1‎/‎9‎/‎2018 at 8:33 PM, TurtlePower said:

She’s complaining it’s all about HIM (Avi)?!? That’s called karma, Twit. Put some damn clothes on, no one sits in the bridal shop in their underwear. Just when we thought she couldn’t get any worse. 

This. 

[Thrifty]

19 hours ago, WhatsUpDummy said:

Does anyone actually tell their friends “I love you”? Is this a thing people do? If so then I must be a cold hearted Scrooge because I have never once occurred to me to tell any of my friends “I love you”. 

I do, frequently.

[skippy]

5 hours ago, AUJulia said:

She described his penis to Babs but who knows what that means?

If a man were talking about women the way Whitney talks about men, all hell would break loose.

[Guest]

I watched this show on Tuesday because I was too tired to walk over to the remote to shut her off. 

If Whitney is an example of a Big Fat Fabulous Life .... I am more than content in keeping my Small, Thin, Mediocre Existence.

At what point does TLC accept responsibility for taking advantage of a mentally challenged person?  Better yet, at what point does Babs and Glenn face the fact that they're whoring their daughter for retirement money?

There might be  a reason her brother has very little to do with this sideshow...apparently he is the only one in that family who has a small shred of dignity.

[Starry Eyes]

6 minutes ago, PsychoKlown said:

whoring their daughter for retirement money?

VERY WELL SAID!!!!!!!!!!  And, I never thought about Glenn and Babs retirement money.  That's probably why Whitney still has her dad's half naked poster on her ceiling.  Creepy.

[Guest]

Just now, writerchick57 said:

VERY WELL SAID!!!!!!!!!!  And, I never thought about Glenn and Babs retirement money.  That's probably why Whitney still has her dad's half naked poster on her ceiling.  Creepy.

What??

Fill me in writerchick57.  Here or pm me.

[thebigboot]

How about the preview for the next episode, I loved the fake phone recording. Obviously we’re all stupid enough to think the buttons would show up on the video.

[AUJulia]

28 minutes ago, thebigboot said:

How about the preview for the next episode, I loved the fake phone recording. Obviously we’re all stupid enough to think the buttons would show up on the video.

I'm so tinfoil-hat that I wonder if all the depictions of him (on the phone with Sweatney, at the cafe for the confrontation) are completely fake. 

[Alapaki]

57 minutes ago, PsychoKlown said:

Better yet, at what point does Babs and Glenn face the fact that they're whoring their daughter for retirement money?

I don’t get the impression that Glenn and Babs are hurting for Retirement funds

Rather, I think they’re trying to ensure they don’t spend Retirement with Whitney living in their spare bedroom 

[Guest]

7 minutes ago, Alapaki said:

I don’t get the impression that Glenn and Babs are hurting for Retirement funds

Rather, I think they’re trying to ensure they don’t spend Retirement with Whitney living in their spare bedroom 

To some people enough is never enough.

But okay, let's assume you're correct. 

I still ask the question At what point does Babs and Glenn face the fact that they're whoring out their daughter so she doesn't occupy their spare bedroom and so that they don't have to dip into their substantial retirement income to support her?

[Alapaki]

5 minutes ago, PsychoKlown said:

To some people enough is never enough.

But okay, let's assume you're correct. 

I still ask the question At what point does Babs and Glenn face the fact that they're whoring out their daughter so she doesn't occupy their spare bedroom and so that they don't have to dip into their substantial retirement income to support her?

All appearances and evidence to the contrary, Whitney is an emancipated adult. 

So this isn’t a Honey Boo-Boo (Honey Bon-Bon?) situation. 

I don’t think they had anything to do with her first getting the show. And at this point it’s taken on a life of its own 

don’t get me wrong, I firmly believe that Glenn and Babs long ago decided to enable Whitney’s infantilization, so I’m not defending them 

I think they’ve just decided that rather than having to deal with a broke failure of a daughter, they might as well let her monetize her failure. 

[Ketzel]

1 hour ago, AUJulia said:

I'm so tinfoil-hat that I wonder if all the depictions of him (on the phone with Sweatney, at the cafe for the confrontation) are completely fake. 

I don't think that's even in tin foil hat territory!  Given how virtually everything else that Whitney has been involved in on the show has been completely fake, it's harder for me to imagine that the "appearances" of Avi in any form are actual occurrences. He picked up and ran when Whitney and Nada started stalking him on SM. I can't see him hanging around to make random, blurred-out appearances on camera just for Whitney so Whitney can "confront" him.

[AUJulia]

1 minute ago, Ketzel said:

I don't think that's even in tin foil hat territory!  Given how virtually everything else that Whitney has been involved in on the show has been completely fake, it's harder for me to imagine that the "appearances" of Avi in any form are actual occurrences. He picked up and ran when Whitney and Nada started stalking him on SM. I can't see him hanging around to make random, blurred-out appearances on camera just for Whitney so Whitney can "confront" him.

Exactly. It's too convenient. Can't wait to see how they explain finding him at that cafe. 

[Nowhere]

57 minutes ago, PsychoKlown said:

To some people enough is never enough.

But okay, let's assume you're correct. 

I still ask the question At what point does Babs and Glenn face the fact that they're whoring out their daughter so she doesn't occupy their spare bedroom and so that they don't have to dip into their substantial retirement income to support her?

 

44 minutes ago, Alapaki said:

All appearances and evidence to the contrary, Whitney is an emancipated adult. 

So this isn’t a Honey Boo-Boo (Honey Bon-Bon?) situation. 

I don’t think they had anything to do with her first getting the show. And at this point it’s taken on a life of its own 

don’t get me wrong, I firmly believe that Glenn and Babs long ago decided to enable Whitney’s infantilization, so I’m not defending them 

I think they’ve just decided that rather than having to deal with a broke failure of a daughter, they might as well let her monetize her failure. 

You can't whore out a thirty-something yr old grown ass woman and you can't LET her do anything. She's going to do what she wants because she's an adult. Glenn and Barb continue to do the show for their own payout. Nothing wrong with that, I don't think. It's going to happen whether they like it or not so why not go along and make some money in the process?