Unspoiled Spec: "$40k, someone long dead is resurrected."

[dubbel zout]

I can't imagine Helena won't pop up at least once before TG leaves, given that she's is one of the pivotal women in Luke's life. Maybe this will finally be Helena's swan song, too. She hasn't done anything worthy since she offed Cassandra in front of Ethan. As much as I love Constance Towers, it's time for Helena to be gone for good. 

[karenc3]

jsbt, that could be too.  And she had already brainwashed Lucky, so she could possibly have information about Luke and Laura that only Lucky knew.   

[Lillybee]

There is a spumor out there that Lucky finds young Jake and returns him to Liz. I really don't understand how this could happen because I though that Jake was really and truly dead after all Joss does have his kidneys.

[Oracle42]

That sounds like insane fanfic - but it's RC so if guess it's possible

[Chairperson Meow]

Like a little thing like a kidney will keep Ron from reviving anyone? Jason's lost his brain and he's risen more times than the sun.

[LeftPhalange]

Jake needs to stay dead. He shouldn't have existed in the first place. 

[SlovakPrincess]

Oh geez. Now I'm picturing zombie baby Jake wandering around, like the kid in the movie Pet Semetary.

Of course, the baby in that movie came back and killed his mom. And if you're a Liz-hater ... well, this could be the story for you, LeftPhalange!

[peachmangosteen]

Jake needs to stay dead. He shouldn't have existed in the first place. 

 

I forgot about baby Jake for a second and thought you meant Jakeson and I was like, "I agree."

Edited June 28, 2015 by peachmangosteen

[dubbel zout]

It works for both Jakes.

[Chairperson Meow]

I think the ultimate lol would be if it were revealed that Jake was AJ.

But even as an amnesiac, I'm sure AJ and Carly would be having hate sex.

[Oracle42]

I want a "Who killed Franco?" murder mystery that ends with AJ having killed him. They should've let AJ kill him at that shitty DVD party when AJ found out about Michael being raped in prison by Franco's old cell mate

[Francie]

Because this is Ron we're talking about, and he went through the trouble of making Dante's affair be with a Spencer, I'm going with the following speculation:

 

- Valerie gets pregnant.

- There will be many lies and cover ups about the pregnancy.

- Rocco gets sick and needs blood transfusion, bone narrow, etc. Take your pick.

- Lulu remains clueless while remarking on the great coincidence that Val is a near perfect match.

- Lulu will attempt to bond with her new bff Valerie, while Valerie makes pained faces.

- Ron will plan a public reveal, intended to inflict the greatest humiliation possible on Dante, at the christening of the baby that will be held on the Haunted Star.   Lulu will insist on hosting it.

 

- Ron will be replaced as head writer before said public reveal.  He'll tweet the outline instead.

[Chairperson Meow]

If there's a new head writer, I predict that AJ Quartermaine will return, Roger Howarth will be a different character, and there will be recasts. Ron will also lose his shit, which will be awesome. But with the new hot Billy Miller /KeMo couple irl, I think he will stay. He stayed way too long at Y&R for Jessica Collins.

[KerleyQ]

- Valerie gets pregnant.

- There will be many lies and cover ups about the pregnancy.

- Rocco gets sick and needs blood transfusion, bone narrow, etc. Take your pick.

- Lulu remains clueless while remarking on the great coincidence that Val is a near perfect match.

 

 

I'm going to go with "Rocco needs stem cells and Val's baby is, naturally, a perfect match." 

[Oracle42]

Somebody is either going to have cancer or a cancer relapse so they can justify ME's continued presence on the show

[dubbel zout]

I'm going to go with "Rocco needs stem cells and Val's baby is, naturally, a perfect match." 

 

This leads perfectly into

 

Somebody is either going to have cancer or a cancer relapse so they can justify ME's continued presence on the show

[Chairperson Meow]

Why couldn't they make him a pediatrician? All these damn babies.

[ulkis]

Why couldn't they make him a pediatrician? All these damn babies.

 

Well nothing to stop him from morphing into that . . . 

[dubbel zout]

Silas is in the grand tradition of nearly all GH doctors, in that he can treat just about any patient who comes through the door, unless the story demands a neurosurgeon. And even then, Silas can assist Patrick in the OR.

Edited July 9, 2015 by dubbel zout

[Oracle42]

I've got it! Jake is going to get sick and Liz is going to need either Danny or Jakeson to donate something

[Chairperson Meow]

And still no one sees Aiden.

[LeftPhalange]

Who?

[Chairperson Meow]

That kid responsible for Stavros.

[ulkis]

We actually saw him last week in the park.

[OnceSane]

Everyone in town will know Jake is Jason except Jason, Sam, Monica, Michael and Carly. When they find out, there will be no comeuppance because none of them will have the endurance to beat the entire town's collective asses.

[jsbt]

Aiden was on a couple days ago with Lucky.

Edited July 15, 2015 by jsbt

[HeatLifer]

Everyone in town will know Jake is Jason except Jason, Sam, Monica, Michael and Carly. When they find out, there will be no comeuppance because none of them will have the endurance to beat the entire town's collective asses.

It's seriously hilarious to me that out of everyone, Robin was the only one who truly cared about Sam. Robin. They shared maybe 4.5 scenes.

[Francie]

I have one more fearless prediction. I predict that, despite the grand Tony Geary send off and parade of characters from Luke Spencer's past, the 18-49 demo will, for the first time in this show's history, fall below 500,000.  

 

Because no matter how many 35+ somethings they bring back this summer to see Laura, Lucky, et. al., it will not counterbalance the Summer of Suck™ that will be these featured storylines:

 

A)  Nina and Franco aping in front of the camera;

 

B)  12 weeks of Ava masquerading as Denise until someone finally snatches that damn wig off her head (I didn't watch any of the exposition -- did they actually show her dying her hair and synthetic-sizing it to make it look like it does?); and

 

C)   12 more weeks of near Jason reveals.

 

I predict a very bleak summer ahead.

 

Damn, did I underestimate just how bad the ratings would get this summer.

[HeatLifer]

Damn, did I underestimate just how bad the ratings would get this summer.

And it ain't gonna get better. I really don't think JJ or Genie or anyone will help the ratings at this point.

[ulkis]

And it ain't gonna get better. I really don't think JJ or Genie or anyone will help the ratings at this point.

 

Genie and JJ probably would have helped if they had promoted them even a tiny bit.

[Tiger]

Genie and JJ probably would have helped if they had promoted them even a tiny bit.

Any JJ fan that did tune in is probably pissed that Lucky got throw under the bus for fucking Jaeehhhyyysinnn.

[Chairperson Meow]

This Summer shall be referred to as :How to Lose a Job Without Really Trying.

[LeftPhalange]

How to Snag An Amnesiac In 10 Days. 

[Francie]

I'm ready to pull the trigger and put this into play.

 

I've got $10, monopoly money, that says that Ron's out on the street in January.  Gut feeling.

[jsbt]

I've got $10, monopoly money, that says that Ron's out on the street in January.  Gut feeling.

 

I don't know about that bet per se, but I am curious about your timing.

Edited July 16, 2015 by jsbt

[magnolia11]

I seem to remember it being January when he announced his last contract renewal on Twitter.  Maybe that's when this one runs out?

 

Can't he (please!) have a clause in the contract that says he can be dumped if ratings slide consistently past a certain point into the sewer?  I'm not sure I can hold out until January.

[Francie]

I don't know about that bet per se, but I am curious about your timing.

I dunno.  I debated between October and January, once I decided that it was ok to think that it would happen at all (that was the hardest point to arrive at).   It all comes down to:

 

1) Jan was when he started on GH, I thought. And they're cheap enough to ride out the contract rather than paying 2 head writers.

 

2) It always takes longer than one thinks it should.  And it's to the point where it should be happening now.

 

3) I think that they may be slowly turning the reins over to Passanante (I know, I know).

 

4) If it's this fall, I'll be pleasantly surprised.

 

Look, I know we'll likely get someone just as bad -- on screen.  But there is no way, possible, that we'll get someone as egotistical and condescending as he is to the fans on twitter. Provoked, sometimes (even often), or not. So, it'll still be a good day.

[jsbt]

Jean Passanante would be worse IMO, and far more boring.

 

I will say I heard these same ideas when she came back to OLTL - people thought she would replace him and edge him out, but no, she didn't, she was just his second, in her usual role. (Brian Frons did, OTOH, allegedly try to replace him with Gary Tomlin after the writer's strike.)

 

It could happen here, because this is a very different situation, but I think she's mostly here to do what she's done before with Ron, and because Y&R cast her out. She simply went back to where she was wanted and needed. Whether she replaces him if he is dismissed is another story altogether, IMO. I hope it's almost anyone else, or that it's a co-head, but it still shouldn't be her.

Edited July 16, 2015 by jsbt

[Francie]

Jean Passanante would be worse IMO, and far more boring.

 

I will say I heard these same ideas when she came back to OLTL - people thought she would replace him and edge him out, but no, she didn't, she was just his second, in her usual role. (Brian Frons did, OTOH, allegedly try to replace him with Gary Tomlin after the writer's strike.)

 

It could happen here, because this is a very different situation, but I think she's mostly here to do what she's done before with Ron, and because Y&R cast her out. She simply went back to where she was wanted and needed. Whether she replaces him if he is dismissed is another story altogether, IMO. I hope it's almost anyone else, or that it's a co-head, but it still shouldn't be her.

Well, I may have to go buy a game of Monopoly and pony up, then.

 

Committing to speculation like this, or that Fluke is Bill Eckert, or that Sloane is the one who really killed Duke, is about the only investment I can have in this show. Lord knows I'm not tuning in on a daily basis to find out whether Julian is eating carbs.  I gotta make it a little exciting.

Edited July 17, 2015 by Francie

[jsbt]

The rumor of the moment is that

fuckin' Sloane worked on behalf of Nikolas to mastermind the entire Lucky kidnapping/Frank Smith caper in order to bring Jake back to Elizabeth,

so there's that!

Edited July 16, 2015 by jsbt

[SlovakPrincess]

The rumor of the moment is that

fuckin' Sloane worked on behalf of Nikolas to mastermind the entire Lucky kidnapping/Frank Smith caper in order to bring Jake back to Elizabeth,

so there's that!

If that rumor is true ... Yes, by all means, let's make these now related stories even more convoluted and ridiculous.

The Jakeson and Luke's exit stories are like that old horror movie the Blob. They just keep swallowing up characters in a slimy mass. Now apparently the Jakeson blob has swallowed the Luke blob. I assume the slimy mass of Franco, Nina, and Ric will also get subsumed at some point ...

Edited July 16, 2015 by SlovakPrincess

[Chairperson Meow]

I can't wait for the twitter rants.

[Francie]

I'm ready to pull the trigger and put this into play.

 

I've got $10, monopoly money, that says that Ron's out on the street in January.  Gut feeling.

I really thought they'd hold out longer. But he did seem to be a goner.

[WendyCR72]

Sooooooo...with the new head writers, do we believe any of RC's pets are on the chopping block? Frankly, I think this show could EASILY lose 20% of its cast at this point.

[jsbt]

In terms of Ron and Frank creations I think Franco, Nina, Ava, Silas, Kiki, Obrecht, Madeline, Valerie, Julian, and maybe Nathan are all in jeopardy. I have no real issue with any of them going at this point. I also worry about Anna, Laura, etc.'s futures. I think Sabrina could easily hit the dust without Ron, though I like the Michael/Sabrina romance - it wouldn't change the world if it ended, though.

 

I'd also cut Jordan, and some others.

Edited July 24, 2015 by jsbt

[TeeVee329]

I think you got to clear out the major players in the Francs and Neens Variety Hour - Franco, Nina, Donna Mills, Ric (sorry Rick Hearst, but I'd send Mr. Lansing out of town to return another day), AvaDenise, Silas, Kiki, and (oh it pains the last bit of me that loves her) Obrecht.  Not that I love Bryan Craig or anything, but Morgan will probably live to see another story.

 

Because they're all isolated pretty much in that one story, it'd be easy enough to clear them out - deaths, psych wards, jail, moving away.

Oh, also?  Sloane.  Sloane HAS to be history.  He's already gone missing, leave him on the side of the milk carton.

Edited July 24, 2015 by TeeVee329

[jsbt]

I'm assuming Ric is dead or done, which is why I didn't mention him; also, he's recurring.

 

And yes, God, death to Sloane. I fear JP, who worked on ATWT when he was there, will want to keep Grayson McCouch. He was a (horrible) star on that show.

Edited July 24, 2015 by jsbt

[TeeVee329]

Oh yeah, the murder mystery stuff.  That could definitely be Ric, or someone else in this story.

 

I'd say Sabrina and Nathan are safe for the moment, at least until new options appear for Maxie (no Spinelli!) and Michael.  

 

I'd say Felix is dunzo.  Lucas and Brad, a big question mark.

Edited July 25, 2015 by TeeVee329

[jsbt]

I think Felix and possibly Brad are dogmeat. I'm not concerning myself with many of the recurring players at the moment outside the worst storylines.

[ulkis]

Oh yeah, the murder mystery stuff.  That could definitely be Ric, or someone else in this story.

 

I'd say Sabrina and Nathan are safe for the moment, at least until new options appear for Maxie (no Spinelli!) and Michael.  

 

I'd say Felix is dunzo.  Lucas and Brad, a big question mark.

 

I think with Nathan they will probably keep him, but his future will depend on how he pulls it off if they actually give him a story that requires a bit more drama than what he's done so far.