SuperNormal: Public Appearances, Tweets, Media And Other Social Media Of The SPN Cast

[gonzosgirrl]

41 minutes ago, Bessie said:

Jensen needs new pr people. What a stupid, own-goal he and his wife just pulled. What is their angle with this? Why not just tell Jared before posting it all over social media. It would have taken all of five minutes. Idiots. 
 

 

 

Jared is a spoiled, whiny man-child. Jensen and Danneel are adults. But Jared loves to play the victim on social media. He's done it time and again and seems to thrive off the attention and sympathy it gains him from his fanbase. The only way in which Jensen is an idiot is in enabling Jared for so many years. Hopefully this signals the end of that.

3 minutes ago, Aeryn13 said:

But both Ted and Veronica are respective main characters. Which wouldn't be the case here.

Sheldon in BBT is narrator for Young Sheldon. I suspect this will be similar for Dean/The Winchesters.

Edited June 25, 2021 by gonzosgirrl

[tessathereaper]

35 minutes ago, Bessie said:

Jensen needs new pr people. What a stupid, own-goal he and his wife just pulled. What is their angle with this? Why not just tell Jared before posting it all over social media. It would have taken all of five minutes. Idiots. 
 

 

 

Maybe he expected Jared to act like an adult.  Maybe he thought Jared, given their friendship of 15 years and how VERY MUCH Jensen has gone above and beyond in being supportive of Jared no matter what crap Jared pulled, would think it was a nice surprise and call him and be excited to hear about the plans and then Jensen would ask him to be involved in doing some narration too. Probably expected "So is this that project you've been so excited about with the SPN alum, you pulled it off?"  You know, like a normal person.

Jared certainly knew Jensen was working on a project with an SPN alum, Jensen said in a livestream with Jared in March. 

You'd think Jensen was starring in this thing and left Jared out.  Dean would do a bit of framing Voice Over narration, probably 10 minutes work an episode.  Jared literally threw a hissy fit over not being asked BEFORE THE PROJECT WAS GREENLIT, if he wanted to do a little narration of SOMEONE ELSE'S story.

[Bessie]

One thing I’m pretty sure of now: it wasn’t Jensen who pulled the plug on supernatural.  

 

 

Edited June 25, 2021 by Bessie

[Hana Chan]

5 minutes ago, gonzosgirrl said:

Jared is a spoil, whiny man-child. Jensen and Danneel are adults. But Jared loves to play the victim on social media. He's done it time and again and seems to thrive off the attention and sympathy it gains him from his fanbase. The only way in which Jensen is an idiot is in enabling Jared for so many years. Hopefully this signals the end of that.

Well, to be fair Jared was given plenty of ammunition on this. Did anyone really think that the media wouldn't pick up on the fact that one of the leads of SPN was totally shut out of this project? Not just that he's not involved in in as an actor, but that he only learned about what the series entailed after the official announcement was made?

And seriously... if Jensen was contractually obligated to tell absolutely no one about the project, then it was the network that blew it. Jared was the co-lead on SPN and the current lead on their highest-profile new series. He could and should have been clued in before the news dropped because now, instead of there being excitement over a new SPN series, all the attention is focused on the DRAMA. 

[tessathereaper]

8 minutes ago, tessathereaper said:

Maybe he expected Jared to act like an adult.  Maybe he thought Jared, given their friendship of 15 years and how VERY MUCH Jensen has gone above and beyond in being supportive of Jared no matter what crap Jared pulled, would think it was a nice surprise and call him and be excited to hear about the plans and then Jensen would ask him to be involved in doing some narration too. Probably expected "So is this that project you've been so excited about with the SPN alum, you pulled it off?"  You know, like a normal person.

Jared certainly knew Jensen was working on a project with an SPN alum, Jensen said in a livestream with Jared in March. 

You'd think Jensen was starring in this thing and left Jared out.  Dean would do a bit of framing Voice Over narration, probably 10 minutes work an episode.  Jared literally threw a hissy fit over not being asked BEFORE THE PROJECT WAS GREENLIT, if he wanted to do a little narration of SOMEONE ELSE'S story.

Also I agree, if it was the other way around.  We'd never know about it, because Jensen would have SPOKEN with Jared.

Also this is exactly what Jensen did when he answered that one fans' criticism, which he KNEW would get her hate and piled on by his fans.  But he never ever said HE was wrong.  Same thing here.  Jared "I Take No Responsibility for My Actions" Padalecki

[gonzosgirrl]

So pretty much a copy/paste of every time he's gone after someone on social media. If any kind of harm comes to anyone over this, the responsibility is his and his alone. He should be ashamed of himself.

2 minutes ago, Hana Chan said:

Well, to be fair Jared was given plenty of ammunition on this. Did anyone really think that the media wouldn't pick up on the fact that one of the leads of SPN was totally shut out of this project? Not just that he's not involved in in as an actor, but that he only learned about what the series entailed after the official announcement was made?

And seriously... if Jensen was contractually obligated to tell absolutely no one about the project, then it was the network that blew it. Jared was the co-lead on SPN and the current lead on their highest-profile new series. He could and should have been clued in before the news dropped because now, instead of there being excitement over a new SPN series, all the attention is focused on the DRAMA. 

It is nothing to do with Jared or his SPN character. He is not the king of the world, despite his words and actions to the contrary. He's not a victim, he just plays one on social media. This is no different than all his other Twitter games where he felt he was wronged and went off.

 

[tessathereaper]

1 minute ago, Hana Chan said:

Well, to be fair Jared was given plenty of ammunition on this. Did anyone really think that the media wouldn't pick up on the fact that one of the leads of SPN was totally shut out of this project? Not just that he's not involved in in as an actor, but that he only learned about what the series entailed after the official announcement was made?

And seriously... if Jensen was contractually obligated to tell absolutely no one about the project, then it was the network that blew it. Jared was the co-lead on SPN and the current lead on their highest-profile new series. He could and should have been clued in before the news dropped because now, instead of there being excitement over a new SPN series, all the attention is focused on the DRAMA. 

But it's so stupid.  This should not even BE an issue.  It's not about Sam or Dean it's about Mary and John. It is before Dean and Sam were born.  It's set in 1972 to start with.  

The idea that Jared needs to be given a heads up on anything SPN related lest he throw a twitter tantrum is absolutely ridiculous.  Esp at such an early stage.  They don't even have scripts yet he has no idea what the plans were because he decided to throw a twitter fit instead of you know ASKING someone involved.  Anyone else would have been "Wow haven't heard about it, not sure if I'll be involved".

The only way this is the fault of ANYONE but Jared is in them once again expecting him to act like an adult mature professional instead of a half unhinged spoiled brat.

[gonzosgirrl]

9 minutes ago, Bessie said:

One thing I’m pretty sure of now: it wasn’t Jensen who pulled the plug on supernatural.  

 

 

And I'm absolutely sure it was. This only convinces me more that he was done with Badd's version of the show.

[Hana Chan]

7 minutes ago, gonzosgirrl said:

It is nothing to do with Jared or his SPN character.

Are not John and Mary Sam's parents too? Did Sam not have complicated, difficult relationships with both of them but still loved them? Is Sam suddenly not a Winchester now?

Edited June 25, 2021 by Hana Chan

[gonzosgirrl]

2 minutes ago, Hana Chan said:

Are not John and Mary Sam's parents too? Did Sam not have complicated, difficult relationships with both of them but still loved them? Is Sam suddenly not a Winchester now?

It's not about Sam or Dean. 

Edited June 25, 2021 by gonzosgirrl

[Hana Chan]

1 minute ago, gonzosgirrl said:

It's not about Sam or Dean. 

We're going to have Dean as a character since he's narrating, so we'll have Dean's POV. Sam, if he's included at all will probably be a brief mention once every ten or so episodes.

[Aeryn13]

5 minutes ago, Hana Chan said:

Are not John and Mary Sam's parents too? Did Sam not have complicated, difficult relationships with both of them but still loved them? Is Sam suddenly not a Winchester now?

Both Dean and Sam will be utter non-entities in the reality of the show from what I understand. Narrating means less than nothing.

2 minutes ago, Hana Chan said:

We're going to have Dean as a character since he's narrating, so we'll have Dean's POV. Sam, if he's included at all will probably be a brief mention once every ten or so episodes.

I doubt it goes into Dean's POV. So if someone else did an occasional voice over narrating or noone did, would that change things?

And why should either Sam or Dean be mentioned at all? This is supposed to focus on John and Mary before they ever had kids. They don't need to be referenced at all. 

Edited June 25, 2021 by Aeryn13

[Snow Apple]

16 minutes ago, gonzosgirrl said:

 

Sheldon in BBT is narrator for Young Sheldon. I suspect this will be similar for Dean/The Winchesters.

And Amy had a voiceover once or twice. The show also pays tribute to characters from the original show.

This prequel is in the early stages so we don’t know if they’ll have original characters involved or acknowledged in some way. Heck, Misha is ready for Cas to time travel.

[ILoveReading]

3 minutes ago, Hana Chan said:

Are not John and Mary Sam's parents too? Did Sam not have complicated, difficult relationships with both of them but still loved them? Is Sam suddenly not a Winchester now?

But it doesn't matter what kind of relationship Sam had with this parents because Sam and Dean won't exist in this time period. 

 

[General Days]

This is getting a lot of traffic in the Public Appearances/Social Media thread starting here, but I figured I'd record the actual media stories. 

Jensen, Danneel, and Robbie Thompson are developing a Supernatural prequel for The CW. As of now, the project with the working title The Winchesters, is said to center on the love story of John and Mary, how they met, etc. The announcement was made via Deadline. Right now, they only have a script commitment. Jensen would narrate the story from Dean's POV.

It seems as though Jared didn't know about it, until Jensen retweeted the Deadline announcement. TVLine and E! have coverage of his reaction. Our discussion of Jared's social media reaction starts with gonzogirrl's post, here: 

I think responses to Jared's tweets belongs in the above linked thread.

[General Days]

30 minutes ago, Aeryn13 said:

But both Ted and Veronica are respective main characters. Which wouldn't be the case here.

I mean as to the amount of narration Jensen-as-Dean will provide. In HIMYM, Ted's kids pretty much just said, "Dad?!" in fifty different ways. Future Ted and Veronica Mars set up the stories. I imagine that's what Jensen's narration will do here.

[ahrtee]

3 minutes ago, gonzosgirrl said:

So pretty much a copy/paste of every time he's gone after someone on social media. If any kind of harm comes to anyone over this, the responsibility is his and his alone. He should be ashamed of himself.

This is pure and simple trolling.  You say something deliberately aimed at riling your fans and then, instead of explaining, soothing or (god forbid) even apologizing, you say you don't want anyone "harmed or threatened," so any other form of anger or reprisal is OK.  Way to insert yourself into something you have nothing to do with, and feed the angry mob.

I honestly don't remember--has Jared ever tweeted anything encouraging about Jensen in The Boys, the Long Halloween or any other project?  Just to support his "brother/best friend."   IIRC, he didn't even congratulate Jensen on winning the Critic's Choice award--or am I forgetting something?  So I don't feel too badly about Jensen doing things on his own--even regarding SPN--without involving Jared.  Yes, it's not Supernatural, but Jensen did congratulate Jared and push Walker.  

[Myrelle]

4 minutes ago, tessathereaper said:

Maybe he expected Jared to act like an adult.  Maybe he thought Jared, given their friendship of 15 years and how VERY MUCH Jensen has gone above and beyond in being supportive of Jared no matter what crap Jared pulled, would think it was a nice surprise and call him and be excited to hear about the plans and then Jensen would ask him to be involved in doing some narration too. Probably expected "So is this that project you've been so excited about with the SPN alum, you pulled it off?"  You know, like a normal person.

Jared certainly knew Jensen was working on a project with an SPN alum, Jensen said in a livestream with Jared in March. 

You'd think Jensen was starring in this thing and left Jared out.  Dean would do a bit of framing Voice Over narration, probably 10 minutes work an episode.  Jared literally threw a hissy fit over not being asked BEFORE THE PROJECT WAS GREENLIT, if he wanted to do a little narration of SOMEONE ELSE'S story.

To me, this is just more of the same old, same old while they were working on the show together. 

But that's not happening any more so other things aren't happening like they used to either.

Change is hard, but it's also true that that's the only real constant in life.

24 minutes ago, Bessie said:

One thing I’m pretty sure of now: it wasn’t Jensen who pulled the plug on supernatural.  

 

 

Funny, but I'm now feeling more certain than ever before that it WAS indeed Jensen who first thought of and suggested pulling the plug on the show.

 

 

[foxfreakinmulder]

1 hour ago, Hana Chan said:

While I've got nearly zero interest in the John and Mary story, Jensen can do what he wants. Personally I would have been more interested in the story of how John managed during those first few years after losing Mary, raising his Weechesters and starting to discover all about the supernatural but that's not what we're getting, at least for now.

I agree with you about the John and Mary story. I feel I've already saw what I wanted about these 2 on Supernatural. Like you I would like to see the story of John after Mary's death, hunting and completing his journal. But that would include 2 small kids and that wouldn't work because child actors grow too fast.

I'm not going to get into weather or not Jensen should've called Jared because I don't know the dynamics of their friendship, how often they see or call or see each other now that the show's over. But I feel there was probably a reason for it and we'll never know what that reason is. But if you're hurt and feel left out, call your friend and have a conversation don't go on twitter. Especially since this show is in the no actors cast, no pilot scheduled stage and who knows if it will ever get the green light, plus know one even knows how much narration the show will have.

 

 

 

 

 

[Bessie]

I think it’ll flop and all the drama will be forgotten. 

1 minute ago, Myrelle said:

Funny, but I'm now feeling more certain than ever before that it WAS indeed Jensen who first thought of and suggested pulling the plug on the show.

 

It could be. But Jensen seems pretty invested in continuing to tie himself to Supernatural. 

[tessathereaper]

20 minutes ago, Hana Chan said:

Are not John and Mary Sam's parents too? Did Sam not have complicated, difficult relationships with both of them but still loved them? Is Sam suddenly not a Winchester now?

But it's not about HIM, it's not about Dean.  It's about John and Mary.  It's John and Mary's story BEFORE Sam and Dean. So yeah he's got nothing to do with it, he didn't exist yet.

[Hana Chan]

20 minutes ago, Aeryn13 said:

I doubt it goes into Dean's POV. So if someone else did an occasional voice over narrating or noone did, would that change things?

Yeah... about that....

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Ackles later elaborated on the new show, telling Deadline: “After ‘Supernatural’ wrapped its 15th season, we knew it wasn’t over. Because like we say in the show, ‘Nothing ever really ends, does it?’”

He said he and his production partner “knew the first story we wanted to tell was the story of John and Mary Winchester, or rather the ‘Supernatural’ origin story. I always felt like my character, Dean, would have wanted to know more about his parents’ relationship and how it came to be. So I love the thought of having him take us on this journey.”

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/supernatural-jared-padalecki_n_60d5dd04e4b0533147596010

 

[MAK]

27 minutes ago, gonzosgirrl said:

And I'm absolutely sure it was. This only convinces me more that he was done with Badd's version of the show.

This! IMO, JA really loved/loves SPN, and couldn't bear to see what it had become under Badd and all that Destiel stuff. But since they hadn't gotten EP status neither he nor JP could do anything about it, except end it.

I think he wanted to pull the plug and revisit it with better and more invested writers. At least I hope so.

[Aeryn13]

4 minutes ago, Hana Chan said:

Yeah... about that....

 

The article also features a panel with both Jensen and Jared where Jensen talks about his production company working on SPN-related projects. And Jared obviously acknowledges that. 

So even if the specific thing was only tentatively announced now, why make it sound like he never, ever, ever had heard about such ideas and gosh golly, the shock. 

[ahrtee]

12 minutes ago, tessathereaper said:

But it's not about HIM, it's not about Dean.  It's about John and Mary.  It's John and Mary's story BEFORE Sam and Dean. So yeah he's got nothing to do with it, he didn't exist yet.

The main thing I think narration will do is explain things to new viewers that SPN viewers might already know.  So that's not a Dean POV, it's just clarifying things so newbies aren't wondering what the hell is going on.  It's a shortcut, not a running commentary IMO.

11 minutes ago, Hana Chan said:

I always felt like my character, Dean, would have wanted to know more about his parents’ relationship and how it came to be. So I love the thought of having him take us on this journey.”

To me, that sounds like an outsider's/observer's POV, not something he's particularly involved with.  But, since we don't know anything about how much of Dean is going to be involved in the storylines until (and unless) the show gets the green light and writing starts getting all insulted now doesn't make sense.  

Personally, I think Dean was put in just because the show needed a connection with SPN and a hook to get viewers to watch (Sam and Dean were going to appear in Wayward Sisters occasionally for the same reason)  and Sam wasn't included because Jared is busy with Walker.  

2 minutes ago, tessathereaper said:

That's not Dean's Point of View, he's WATCHING what actually happened, it's not his opinion of it.  What do you think narrating is?  So again, NOT about Dean, about John and Mary.  Dean is a passive observer. 

Yes!

Edited June 25, 2021 by ahrtee
finish my sentence.

[Myrelle]

35 minutes ago, gonzosgirrl said:

So pretty much a copy/paste of every time he's gone after someone on social media. If any kind of harm comes to anyone over this, the responsibility is his and his alone. He should be ashamed of himself.

It is nothing to do with Jared or his SPN character. He is not the king of the world, despite his words and actions to the contrary. He's not a victim, he just plays one on social media. This is no different than all his other Twitter games where he felt he was wronged and went off.

 

Yup. IA.

He's having trouble dealing with the first part of this post and he's reacting as he usually does now that he knows he can't say Sicc 'em.

He knows his fandom inside and out by this point and I also agree that he should be ashamed of himself at this point and above all else, he should take those comments down if he wants to keep the friendship.

[Myrelle]

6 minutes ago, MAK said:

I think he wanted to pull the plug and revisit it with better and more invested writers

MTE.

 

6 minutes ago, Aeryn13 said:

The article also features a panel with both Jensen and Jared where Jensen talks about his production company working on SPN-related projects. And Jared obviously acknowledges that. 

So even if the specific thing was only tentatively announced now, why make it sound like he never, ever, ever had heard about such ideas and gosh golly, the shock. 

And this too.

Kripke posted that when this idea was first brought up that Jared was too busy "rangering" to be a part of it and Danneel backed him up.

 

[Hana Chan]

13 minutes ago, foxfreakinmulder said:

But if you're hurt and feel left out, call your friend and have a conversation don't go on twitter.

Totally agree with his. I agree that SM was the wrong place for Jared to vent.

Of course, that doesn't change the fact that I do understand why he's upset and that he's got some justification. The best thing for him to do would be to delete his tweets and talk to Jensen directly.

2 minutes ago, tessathereaper said:

That's not Dean's Point of View, he's WATCHING what actually happened, it's not his opinion of it.  What do you think narrating is?  So again, NOT about Dean, about John and Mary.  Dean is a passive observer. 

And again, is Dean John and Mary's only child? Are only his observations about them and their relationship valid? 

In narrating (and yes, I know what that means), Dean will be setting the tone for the storylines. His dialogue will help shape the audience's viewpoint of what happens, so it's not going to be entirely passive. The show has always portrayed Dean's relationship with John and Mary closer than than Sam's and he got to have a lot of interactions with them that Sam was excluded from (like this little time travel trip). Personally, I would have liked Sam's viewpoint on them since his relationship with John was so contentious and he had zero childhood memories of Mary, but that's not going to happen so...

Did anyone really want a John and Mary show? Is this the best SPN story we can come up with?

[Aeryn13]

4 minutes ago, Hana Chan said:

Totally agree with his. I agree that SM was the wrong place for Jared to vent.

Of course, that doesn't change the fact that I do understand why he's upset and that he's got some justification. The best thing for him to do would be to delete his tweets and talk to Jensen directly.

And again, is Dean John and Mary's only child? Are only his observations about them and their relationship valid? 

In narrating (and yes, I know what that means), Dean will be setting the tone for the storylines. His dialogue will help shape the audience's viewpoint of what happens, so it's not going to be entirely passive. The show has always portrayed Dean's relationship with John and Mary closer than than Sam's and he got to have a lot of interactions with them that Sam was excluded from (like this little time travel trip). Personally, I would have liked Sam's viewpoint on them since his relationship with John was so contentious and he had zero childhood memories of Mary, but that's not going to happen so...

Did anyone really want a John and Mary show? Is this the best SPN story we can come up with?

What did Jared expect? Be the lead and focus in any SPN-related projects althewhile doing Walker?

At this point noone knows what that "narration" would even entail. It could be as much as a little introduction every episode or just few words for a Pilot episode. 

IF anyone has any interest in getting this project of the ground, then it needs to stands on its own and actually focus on just John and Mary and actually yes "Dean and Sam who". Their show is over. Even if it sucked for one character.       

 

[Evie]

2 hours ago, General Days said:

Jared has a new tweet up: 

 

This is why it is hard to give Jared the benefit of the doubt and assume he was hurt and lashed out without thinking. This is not what he should be tweeting the next morning. You don't start off with "Thank you for the love" unless you really, really like the attention. You delete the tweets, apologize, and wish everyone and the project all of the best. 

 

 

 

 

Edited June 25, 2021 by Evie

[General Days]

6 minutes ago, tessathereaper said:

That's not Dean's Point of View, he's WATCHING what actually happened, it's not his opinion of it.  What do you think narrating is?  So again, NOT about Dean, about John and Mary.  Dean is a passive observer. 

 

5 minutes ago, ahrtee said:

The main thing I think narration will do is explain things to new viewers that SPN viewers might already know.  So that's not a Dean POV, it's just clarifying things so newbies aren't wondering what the hell is going on.  It's a shortcut, not a running commentary IMO.

To me, that sounds like an outsider's/observer's POV, not something he's particularly involved with.  But, since we don't know anything about how much of Dean is going to be involved in the storylines until (and unless) the show gets the green light and writing starts getting all insulted now doesn't make sense.  

Personally, I think Dean was put in just because the show needed a connection with SPN and a hook to get viewers to watch (Sam and Dean were going to appear in Wayward Sisters occasionally for the same reason)  and Sam wasn't included because Jared is busy with Walker.  

Yes!

If/since the character Dean narrates, the series as a whole (if it even comes to be) is likely from his POV as an outsider. It would be like if you had a historical drama, and the narrator was a history professor, who set up the episodes by telling his class, "Now here's what happened with Henry VIII and Ann Boleyn."

Within each episode, the story can also be told from John or Mary's point of view (or even someone else's). 

 

2 minutes ago, Hana Chan said:

And again, is Dean John and Mary's only child? Are only his observations about them and their relationship valid? 

 

Where does this "valid" question come from? Insert any non-Sam and non-Dean SPN character into your question, and ask the validity question about Supernatural.

I don't see how validity has anything to do with it. Thompson and/or the Ackles had an idea for and SPN premise, centering on John and Mary, with Dean narrating. That doesn't mean Sam wasn't "valid," it's just not the story they're choosing to tell.

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In narrating (and yes, I know what that means), Dean will be setting the tone for the storylines. His dialogue will help shape the audience's viewpoint of what happens, so it's not going to be entirely passive. The show has always portrayed Dean's relationship with John and Mary closer than than Sam's and he got to have a lot of interactions with them that Sam was excluded from (like this little time travel trip). Personally, I would have liked Sam's viewpoint on them since his relationship with John was so contentious and he had zero childhood memories of Mary, but that's not going to happen so...

 

Dean's original relationship with John and Mary was closer, because he knew them before Mary died. Sam was an infant. They would have loved Sam as much, but an infant's relationship with his parents is far more limited than a child who can speak, because that's how humans develop.

 

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Did anyone really want a John and Mary show? Is this the best SPN story we can come up with?

 

I did and do want this. I think post-Kripke, Supernatural did both John and Mary dirty. If this show goes to series, and if they can get the writing right, not to mention the casting, I think it could be interesting. I wouldn't mind seeing them rehabilitated a bit. Sam and Dean's bad memories of them in the original series don't have to be accurate (i.e. the full story).

[Morrigan2575]

4 minutes ago, General Days said:

did and do want this. I think post-Kripke, Supernatural did both John and Mary dirty.

Same. I'd be totally cool with it. I'd also be very cool with JDM and Sam Smith doing VO work. Hell, id be totally cool if we got a scene of JDM, Jensen, Sam Smith (i hope she's doing OK) sitting around heaven telling stories .

[General Days]

3 minutes ago, Morrigan2575 said:

Same. I'd be totally cool with it. I'd also be very cool with JDM and Sam Smith doing VO work. Hell, id be totally cool if we got a scene of JDM, Jensen, Sam Smith (i hope she's doing OK) sitting around heaven telling stories .

Me, too! Even though I'd think it was totally sappy, I'd lap it up like ice cream.

[ahrtee]

Bottom line (for me):  Jared knew there were projects about SPN being worked on.  That wasn't a surprise.  Maybe he didn't know one was actually in development instead of just talk, and he expected Jensen to tell him before any news broke, so he was surprised and hurt that he didn't.  But I don't think Jared was *expecting* to be a part of it (even as narrator) since he just doesn't have time, in between Walker, his family, and his workout stuff he's pushing on Twitter. 

Nowhere in his tweet does he say he wanted to be part of the show, just that he "would have liked to hear about it" other than on Twitter.  That's hurt feelings.  But saying he was "gutted" was IMO being a drama queen and deliberately aimed at gaining sympathy from his fans (and, knowing them, anger towards Jensen).    By now he should know how his fans react to any (real or perceived) slights to him, after all the backlash against the waitress and airline staff and whoever else "insulted" him, so IMO he was--consciously or subconsciously--setting Jensen up to be the focus of their anger.  Maybe it helps him with some of his insecurities/depression--seeing how many fans love him and express their support--but he has to accept his responsibility for setting up others as the fall guys.  (That tweet to Robbie was pretty unforgiveable IMO, and it's a good thing--though late--that he deleted it.)  

Why couldn't he just say, "hey, I didn't know about this, but it sounds good!" and then speak to Jensen directly if he felt hurt/insulted.  That's being a grownup.  

Maybe Gen should control his twitter account.  

[Morrigan2575]

5 minutes ago, ahrtee said:

Nowhere in his tweet does he say he wanted to be part of the show, just that he

Well...he does kind of go there. IMO

[Casseiopeia]

11 minutes ago, General Days said:

Did anyone really want a John and Mary show? Is this the best SPN story we can come up with?

John yes...Mary no!

 

1 minute ago, ahrtee said:

Why couldn't he just say, "hey, I didn't know about this, but it sounds good!" and then speak to Jensen directly if he felt hurt/insulted.  That's being a grownup.  

It kind of sounds like a lot of people were in the loop about this project.  Kripke (who had to have signed off on it), Warner Brothers, the CW and Robbie besides Jensen and Danneel.  The only one who had no clue apparently was Jared and he learns about it on SM not from Jensen. That had to have hurt a lot. I wish Jared had better social media control instincts...but he doesn't so he is once again being an ass. And now the shitstorm that everyone involved could have  helped avoid happened.  In other words another day in as The Fandom Turns.

[Aeryn13]

2 minutes ago, Casseiopeia said:

John yes...Mary no!

 

It kind of sounds like a lot of people were in the loop about this project.  Kripke (who had to have signed off on it), Warner Brothers, the CW and Robbie besides Jensen and Danneel.  The only one who had no clue apparently was Jared and he learns about it on SM not from Jensen. That had to have hurt a lot. I wish Jared had better social media control instincts...but he doesn't so he is once again being an ass. And now the shitstorm that everyone involved could have  helped avoid happened.  In other words another day in as The Fandom Turns.

Misha's post - and clearly he didn't know either - was much different than Jared's.

Apoarently Jensen, Kripke, the CW and Warner Bros first concern should have been to make sure to tell Jared first. So as not to expect super blowback on social media.

If you think about it, this is ridiculous. They could have expected to not get super blowback on social media, no matter what. And from anyone else they could have.

[ahrtee]

3 minutes ago, Aeryn13 said:

Misha's post - and clearly he didn't know either - was much different than Jared's.

Apoarently Jensen, Kripke, the CW and Warner Bros first concern should have been to make sure to tell Jared first. So as not to expect super blowback on social media.

If you think about it, this is ridiculous. They could have expected to not get super blowback on social media, no matter what. And from anyone else they could have.

IDK--that's kind of insulting to Jared if, with so many people involved and working on the project, that he was so blind/oblivious that he didn't hear anything about it.  Even with NDAs or keeping things quiet, word still does leak, especially among the SPN crowd.  I guess he was just insulted that Jensen didn't tell him first.

 

[Casseiopeia]

7 minutes ago, Aeryn13 said:

Apoarently Jensen, Kripke, the CW and Warner Bros first concern should have been to make sure to tell Jared first. So as not to expect super blowback on social media.

 Jensen et al could have told Jared as a courtesy but the blowback was already in full swing long before Jared tweeted anything.  

My point was that I can understand why Jared's feelings were hurt. However being a child on SM was stupid.

[ahrtee]

18 minutes ago, Morrigan2575 said:

Well...he does kind of go there. IMO

He says he's "bummed" that Sam doesn't have any involvement.  Doesn't mean he wants to actually work on it.  There really is no place for Sam there.  

[Morrigan2575]

4 minutes ago, ahrtee said:

He says he's "bummed" that Sam doesn't have any involvement.  Doesn't mean he wants to actually work on it.  There really is no place for Sam there.  

Bummed that Sam Winchester had no involvement whatsoever...sorry that just screams I'm pissed I'm not involved in this project where's my EP credit!? (Last part is me adlibing) 😂

[Bessie]

3 minutes ago, ahrtee said:

There really is no place for Sam there.

Sure there is, if Jensen wanted to create a space for it. It’s his show! So it’s fine that he doesn’t want Sam in the show. But he was nuts if he thought there wouldn’t be any consequences. 
 

im curious about how this will play out. A joint statement, maybe?

[Aeryn13]

13 minutes ago, ahrtee said:

IDK--that's kind of insulting to Jared if, with so many people involved and working on the project, that he was so blind/oblivious that he didn't hear anything about it.  Even with NDAs or keeping things quiet, word still does leak, especially among the SPN crowd.  I guess he was just insulted that Jensen didn't tell him first.

 

But that's just it, that the premiere issue in a production company trying their hands on their first project has to be the consideration of Jared's feelings. So much so that the poor guy just had no choice to resolve this in any professional manner but blow up on his social media.

Poor thing, he just couldn't be expected to be professional, right? Not too much to ask of anyone else but with him it's just always "oh well, not the best idea but how could he not?" For the upteenth time.

Now maybe the project will never get made and no SPN project will ever get made again. Frankly, I wouldn't care about that at all. I wasn't bowled over by the initial announcement either. But I do hope somehow Jensen aquired the rights for his character so no trash project can be made about Dean either. Not anymore than SPN already ended as. Because I know a long list of people who would absolutely do just that.

Edited June 25, 2021 by Aeryn13

[General Days]

I just keep wondering what Jared expected out of this.

1 minute ago, Morrigan2575 said:

Bummed that Sam Winchester had no involvement whatsoever...sorry that just screams I'm pissed I'm not involved in this project where's my EP credit!? (Last part is me adlibing) 😂

 

I agree. I imagine Jensen conceived of the series, and contacted Robbie Thompson. In the past, Jensen has made no secret of wishing RT was still with SPN. Through Chaos Machine Productions, Jensen and Danneel have an overall deal with Warner Bros

Where is there room for Jared in that? I ask that in the sense of -- why should there be room for Jared in that? Is Jensen an EP on Walker? Did Jared form a production company with Jensen?

I might feel differently, if this was a series about Dean and Sam's childhood (although I wouldn't feel all that differently, if Jensen conceived of the series without Jared).

If Jared is just mad that Jensen didn't tell him first, that in itself kind of makes me understand why Jensen didn't tell Jared before going public. Jared is a little too volatile. 

Why wasn't Jared's response one of delighted surprise for his friend? Misha's was. Jim Beaver's was. 

[Casseiopeia]

1 hour ago, tessathereaper said:

So yeah he's got nothing to do with it, he didn't exist yet.

But neither does Dean so it will interesting to see how Dean is the narrator. Is Dean looking back on John and Mary's life? And if he is how would he know what their life was like other than the two trips back in time...once with Sam?

This story is going to be a twist of ret-conning I'm afraid. I have faith that Robbie can pull it off. But fingers crossed anyway.

[gonzosgirrl]

What an enormous tool. You can't un-ring that bell, Jared. You threw your 'brother' under a bus. The damage is done.

[ahrtee]

10 minutes ago, Casseiopeia said:

But neither does Dean so it will interesting to see how Dean is the narrator. Is Dean looking back on John and Mary's life? And if he is how would he know what their life was like other than the two trips back in time...once with Sam?

This story is going to be a twist of ret-conning I'm afraid. I have faith that Robbie can pull it off. But fingers crossed anyway.

Well, Dean had all those decades in heaven waiting for Sam to show up.  Maybe he wasn't just road-tripping in Baby.  Maybe he did some time travelling to observe.  Angels can swing that, and Cas is apparently still around. 😊

ETA:  Hmmm...or maybe Dean was just up in heaven observing the past without interfering. (Even Azazel let Sam watch him feed him the demon blood.)  

That would also give a good reason to explain why Sam wasn't there, and gives something interesting for Dean to do while waiting.  

Edited June 25, 2021 by ahrtee

[gonzosgirrl]

And as usual, Jensen is the bigger man.

 

[MAK]

4 minutes ago, gonzosgirrl said:

What an enormous tool. You can't un-ring that bell, Jared. You threw your 'brother' under a bus. The damage is done.

"Miles to go..." indeed. Apparently he didn't read that it was only in the "script" phase? He didn't really read the announcement? He just went off? 

[Casseiopeia]

Fandom drama aside I am looking forward to this series. I'm sure it will go through a lot of reincarnations before we see one minute on screen but I do have faith it will go to series. I want it to be a huge success.