S03.E01: Josh's Ex-Girlfriend Wants Revenge

[ElectricBoogaloo]

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Rebecca, abandoned at the altar by her obsession, Josh, works to plot her revenge with the help of Paula, Heather and Valencia. It might be a bit tough to figure out, since he ran off the day of the wedding to become a priest. Meanwhile, White Josh and Darryl have some problems to work on and Paula and Scott confront some unusual issues in their marriage.

Promo:

[SeanC]

Oh, Rebecca.

Rachel Bloom looked amazing in this episode.

[Spartan Girl]

After this week, "Let's Generalize About Men" was just what I needed.

Geez, Rebecca. You get an awesome new femme fatale makeover, you could at least act more like a Lifetime villain and not a sad desperate child.

[txhorns79]

"Your sons are gonna be rapists!" Sad Paula...and scene.  The whole song was perfection.   

[SeanC]

5 minutes ago, Spartan Girl said:

After this week, "Let's Generalize About Men" was just what I needed.

When the first notes of that started up, I belatedly realized there had only been one song so far this week, at the very beginning.

[HunterHunted]

Just now, SeanC said:

Oh, Rebecca.

Rachel Bloom looked amazing in this episode.

She did. 

It's hilarious how bad Rebecca's plans were. I kept expecting Paula to ask Rebecca if she only watched The Help during those 2 weeks.

I loved Let's Generalize About Men.

[Eyes High]

42 minutes ago, Spartan Girl said:

After this week, "Let's Generalize About Men" was just what I needed.

Heh, in light of the "Men are trash" reactions to the Weinstein(/Affleck/Stone/Roy Price) reporting, "Let's Generalize About Men" seemed particularly apt. "Your sons are gonna be rapists!!!"

[possibilities]

I was worried about where the Darryl-WhiteJosh situation was going, but I loved how it turned out.

"My friends always say I'm judgey, but I don't listen to them because they're stupid idiots."

I still hate the new boss character-- I forget his name; the one who's attracted to Rebecca.

Still love Father Brah, even in tiny flashbacks.

It's weird how this show manages to be feminist while it still has a very hard time passing the Bechdel Test.

[ElectricBoogaloo]

Songs from this week:

Where's Rebecca Bunch?

 

Let's Generalize About Men

[ElectricBoogaloo]

The 80s costumes in the Men video were so amazingly awesome!

[sacrebleu]

I was just so happy for Darryl-- he knows he's a catch. Honestly-- Darryl's arc has been so amazing. 

 

I thought the "Generalize about Men" song was timely-- but given the past week-- I'm a little surprised they didn't edit out the 'your sons will be rapists' line. That seemed a bit over the line taste-wise. Especially given RB &ABM publicly announced they were among those boycotting Twitter yesterday because of the Rose McGowan stuff.

Edited October 14, 2017 by sacrebleu
edited because your and you're are not interchangeable- yikes

[DearEvette]

I thought the Let's Generalize about Men song was perfect.  Even my son who is exactly the wrong demographic for this show was arrested enough to stop and watch and laughed his ass off.  Highlight of the ep.

Second was British Josh.  Such a restrained use of Vincent Rodriguez!  I loved Paula's amazed line about him being a Laurence Olivier.  Ha!

And finally, I just kept getting a gigle out of Valencia's amazement that nobody would give her credit for suggesting suing Josh.  "I must have died.  When did I die?"  The delivery was everything.

So glad this show is back!!

[Blakeston]

5 hours ago, nosleepforme said:

- Daryl and White Josh having actual arguments and being less overly cutesy. 

I was thrilled we got to see a substantive plotline with them. And honestly, this was the first time I've ever really bought them as a couple.

But I didn't like the way it was resolved. It seemed to me there were two big issues there:

1) Darryl refused to respect Josh's desire to not have a baby immediately, and would't stop hassling him about it, and

2) Darryl treated Josh's business idea as just a silly little endeavor that he needed to get out of his system before having kids.

How does that make Josh the one who needs to change? He can be judgy, but he wasn't the issue at hand. I can't even imagine the reactions if a man had treated a female character the way that Darryl treated Josh.

[Rinaldo]

19 minutes ago, Blakeston said:

But I didn't like the way it was resolved.

My own reaction is that it's nowhere near resolved, and they'll be going back and forth about it all season.

[alrightokay]

What an awesome show.  The writing is so, so smart: right after Darryl and Josh make up in Dr. Akopian #2's office, we get "Let's Generalize About Men," which at first gives us some to-be-expected verses blasting straight men; but then we get some meta verses about gay men, which still ended up being generalizations!  I love how the show is self-aware and doesn't take itself too seriously.  The first song was a lot of fun, too; it smoothly reintroduced us to all of the characters, and I loved the glimpses of George and my fave, Hector.  I could not stop laughing at how they brought in Not!Josh; what a treat to see Vincent doing those accents.  And I love how they picked up on the hints from last season about Nathaniel having a lot in common with Rebecca; the fact that he is resorting to Rebecca-like tactics to check on her (even doing his own casting call) is a great shift in his character.  

But on top of everything else, the acting on the show is just stellar.  Donna/Paula is such an MVP; she did so much heavy lifting in the scenes with Scott (all the conflicting emotions on her face as she gave him the lie detector test) and when she had to stop the whole sex-tape plot and explain how it would hurt Rebecca more than it would hurt Josh.  I also adore Valencia/Gabrielle--she has great comic timing and throws herself into the musical numbers with such joy.  What a boost to have this show back.

[DearEvette]

Oh man,  I forgot about Dr. Akopian (male).  Akopian is an Armenian name so , yeah, felt a leetle unusual for an AA woman.  Love the casting and the quick cut to the picture.   It seemed almost as if they were telling us that Michael Hyatt wasn't available in a clever way. 

[tennisgurl]

This show is so awesome, I love it so very much. My life is just a bit more bright and musical now! Loved seeing the whole gang back again, especially Rebecca, who is looking just fabulous with her angry hair and angry/sexy dress! 

I liked both the songs a lot, this show must be so much fun to work on. You get to wear so many fun costumes! The Wheres Rebecca Bunch song was a really fun way to be reintroduced to all the characters, and Lets Generalize About Men was amazing. I loved how they started with their generalizations about men, then went on a diatribe about gay men, only to make MORE generalizations! Just super clever and fun. I love how the whole cast just fully commits to whatever they're asked to do. 

I loved seeing White Josh and Darrel have some relationship troubles, but it working out. That being said, I think this will come back up again. They didn't really deal with the problems, they dealt with how they were dealing with the problem. I do hope it works out long term. 

Loved British Josh! I am also really excited to see how being a priest is going for Josh, because I am assuming its not going the way he hoped it would...

[Phishbulb]

23 minutes ago, DearEvette said:

Oh man,  I forgot about Dr. Akopian (male).  Akopian is an Armenian name so , yeah, felt a leetle unusual for an AA woman.  Love the casting and the quick cut to the picture.   It seemed almost as if they were telling us that Michael Hyatt wasn't available in a clever way. 

There were a couple of fun fake-outs like this in this episode- like expecting to see Rebecca's Dr. Akopian to then seeing her husband instead. Like right after the scene where Rebecca was explaining her plan about the cupcakes, they cut to White Josh feeding Daryl something that smelled weird that was kind of chocolatey-looking. Also, Paula's husband saying "Ok, let me get ready to strap this thing on..", then him walking over to the lie detector machine. It seemed like they were having fun leading you down the wrong path with some of the dialogue and transitions between scenes.

[Empress1]

"Am I dead? How did I die?" was the best line of the show. I also loved all the girl group scenes where they were talking about a) how trash Rebecca's ideas were and b) how far they were going to take this.

I've heard of jilted brides or grooms suing the people who left them at the altar, usually to recoup the sunk wedding costs.

I hope there's more crazy from Rebecca though - that she pursues this lawsuit with the same zeal that she's pursued everything else. I trust that there will be, given that she's still lying about Robert and did make shit cupcakes.

[Irlandesa]

1 hour ago, Blakeston said:

I was thrilled we got to see a substantive plotline with them. And honestly, this was the first time I've ever really bought them as a couple.

But I didn't like the way it was resolved. It seemed to me there were two big issues there:

1) Darryl refused to respect Josh's desire to not have a baby immediately, and would't stop hassling him about it, and

2) Darryl treated Josh's business idea as just a silly little endeavor that he needed to get out of his system before having kids.

How does that make Josh the one who needs to change? He can be judgy, but he wasn't the issue at hand. I can't even imagine the reactions if a man had treated a female character the way that Darryl treated Josh.

I agree.  I love them both and I was excited to see them deal with something substantial but I didn't really like the places this went.  Darryl proposing having a baby with White Josh was done spontaneously only after White Josh said he wasn't sure about marriage when that's the first thought Darryl had.  Those are the things they need to discuss--future marriage and children.  And they need to discuss their decision making process in that Darryl does take leaps while White Josh seems more chill.  But none of that translated, for me, to White Josh taking Darryl for granted or not appreciating him. 

Let's generalize about men was great but I absolutely loved the #Where's Rebecca Bunch song mainly because I felt like it was the perfect companion piece to Season 1's "The villain in my own story" song. 

It did amuse me that it seemed like they were turning Rebecca into some of the worst stereotypes of those men in the way she told Nathaniel that she wanted to watch that suit move. 

[possibilities]

What I liked about the Darryl-WJ fight was this:

1. It was a real fight, very convincing wrt them being a couple.

2. Darryl admitted he was being too pushy and taking over and lacking boundaries, and WJ admitted he was being dismissive and not really taking Darryl seriously.

3. Darryl agreed to change his behavior, and he did.

4. WJ admitted his own flaws, and D's positive qualities, and took actions to address his personal issues and to think about the baby question in a serious way, rather than just trying to get D to shut up about it.

5. I don't think their issues are settled. But they both grew, took concrete steps to address things that came out during the yelling in the therapy office, and in ways that to me seemed realistic. WJ didn't say yes he will have a baby. Darryl didn't say OK, forget about a baby. They acknowledged a conflict and decided to try to do better, and to work on it in a respectful way.

6. No one made promises they can't keep.

I think sometimes problems can't be solved. If they want different things out of the relationship, such as more kids vs no kids, or a temporary affair vs long-term marriage, that might not be fixable. But Darryl was using the baby issue to press the commitment issue, and WJ was being aloof and judgy because that's his character flaw, instead of looking at what he really had with and felt about Darryl and the relationship. He was also using the business as an excuse-- Darryl pointed out that he hadn't really done much with it before, even though it wasn't a new idea he'd just had.

So, my view is that the fight cleared the air and made it more clear what was really happening. Now, if they both look at themselves and the relationship in a clearer and more honest way, instead of manufacturing crises or hiding behind habits, they now have a chance to figure out what they really feel or want and whether that can work.

I don't think either of them was all right or all wrong. Darryl's behavior was way out of line. WJ was right to confront him. But lots of long term, serious couples go through things where one of them is way out of line and the other isn't perfect, and they either break up or they re-commit to looking at themselves and the relationship and doing better at connecting, regardless of who is more at fault. It's OK to break up over bad behavior, but it's also OK to work it out, or try to, as long as there's real change happening and you both want to. I don't see either one of them as being actually irredeemably abusive, so them deciding to at least think about it more and try to do better struck me as actually pretty mature.

Paula and... I forget her husband's name... were working out their own marriage-violating behavior issue, and I'm not really convinced they did it in a way that gets to the bottom of anything and resolves it, but I saw that they do have something good together, and it was (as someone said upthread) the perfect amount of weird. So I liked that, too, but I'm at least as skeptical of it as I am of what WJ and D showed us this week. It seemed way less grounded or realistic, but great for this show and I am enjoying watching it anyway.

[MilkMachine]

I usually binge this show, and this episode makes me wish I could go ahead and watch the rest of the season. I found it lackluster, but I recognize that it was probably laying groundwork for stuff I’ll enjoy down the line.

[SmithW6079]

I thought the opening number was pretty funny, and I liked that the text message on the phone was in an old-English-style font; that was a nice touch.

Watching or laughing at someone who is descending into madness is not really my cup of tea. I didn't find any of Rebecca's antics funny, and her friends' enthusiastic support of her "destroying" Josh Chan (even if they didn't support her methods) was wrong. Also, Paula, honey, yes, your sons are going to grow up to be rapists. Have you never read a feminist blog?

I still don't buy White Josh and Darryl as a couple, and not just because of the attractiveness disparity. Darryl was overbearing and not mindful of his partner's concerns. I did like that the creators added some depth to White Josh -- he's not just a pretty face and hot body. Own that judgmental attitude, White Josh!

So the law firm boss has something the size of a "banana" in his shorts? Hmm.

[Snarklepuss]

Ah, my crazy little show is back, I'm so happy!  It seemed like AGES since last season ended, didn't it?  I thought this was a good episode.  As usual it had so much in it I should really go back and watch it again.  Of course the posts here are reminding me of all those little aspects, like Dr. Akopian the husband and "Did I die, am I dead?"  LOL.  I wonder when they're going to bring Trent back.  If I were up to it I'd be writing more but this was a busy week for me.

[KaleyFirefly]

I liked British Josh, the 80s song (and costumes!) Not as interested in the gay couple fighting and going to therapy, or in Paula's marriage problems. Rebecca looks great with the dark hair (I laughed at the "espresso-haired vixen" line because I also recently dyed my hair dark brown after being a redhead for a long time). Not so sure about all her crazy plans regarding Josh. I know this show is called "Crazy Ex-Girlfriend" but I would like to see them move beyond all the Josh plots one day and give her other things to do. 

[ElectricBoogaloo]

I thought that Paula, Heather, and Valencia weren't so much supporting Rebecca's crazy fake porn plan but rather going along with Paula's logic which was that if they told Rebecca not to do it, then she would just dig in her heels and be even more determined to do it. As Paula said, it was like playing chicken, letting Rebecca get close to the edge before she swerved out of the way of her own accord. And as we saw with the poop cupcakes, Paula was partly right to play along for a little while.

I was kind of hoping that instead of going through with the fake porn, Rebecca would see British Josh's face and yell all the things that she had been holding inside since he left her at the altar and that it would be a cathartic experience for her. Heh, but I guess if that happened we wouldn't be getting a season of vengeful Rebecca (not a spoiler - I actually have no idea how long they're going to work this "Rebecca wants to destroy Josh Chan" storyline).

I enjoyed both songs this week. The first one reminded me how much I miss Galavant.

I am glad that White Josh and Darryl both agreed to go to therapy and that it yielded some results. No, the baby thing hasn't magically been fixed but I think they got to some good stuff, mainly that White Josh needs to appreciate Darryl for the catch that he is and that Darryl needs to stop pushing so hard. Sometimes the issue that you're fighting about isn't the overarching problem. I mean, yes, obviously having kids is a pretty big relationship issue and that still needs to be dealt with but they both admitted to making mistakes in their attitudes about non-baby issues in their relationships.

As much as I want to say that White Josh was being judgey when he said that he ignores his friends' criticism that he's judgey because they're idiots, he isn't wrong. They ARE idiots!

[Cthulhudrew]

Poor George gets fired again.

[Maire]

But no theme song for season? That's my favorite part of the show

[tennisgurl]

I love that Old Time West Convina has its number of paces to the beach on its sign. 

[Irlandesa]

2 hours ago, Maire said:

But no theme song for season? That's my favorite part of the show

I believe it'll debut next week.  They skipped it this week because of the recap song.

[Rinaldo]

Right. Season 1 also didn't unveil its theme song till week 2.

[Blakeston]

20 hours ago, possibilities said:

3. Darryl agreed to change his behavior, and he did.

How do we know Darryl changed his behavior? He said he would change, but that wasn't the first time he said he'd change.

If he actually respects Josh's decision not to have kids now, that will be great. But they still never addressed how obnoxious he was in assuming that helping sell some bars was all it would take to get Josh to put his career aside.

[DianeDobbler]

I was fine with White Josh and Darryl. Darryl admitted he'd gone OTT about the baby and he said, "And I'll stop." he said it without equivocation. But not only was White Josh irritated about the baby stuff, he seemed to use it to criticize stuff about Darryl that were just who Darryl was, as Darryl pointed it out, AND as Darryl pointed out, a lot of it was positive. I never thought about Darryl being a catch before until I realized - yeah, he is. He's one of those people who might feel "embarrassing" but then you realize how many people like him actually end up getting things done and moving their lives forward - which the writing also pointed out. White Josh was using the baby overkill to point out flaws in Darryl - but as in turned out, these aren't flaws, not really. His baby overkill was actually one of his assets in overdrive, as is often the case. We all have positive attributes and talents that, when taken to an extreme, need to be pulled back. But the impetus still comes from a positive attribute.

Both musical numbers were incredible, although of course, "Let's generalize about men" was brilliant. Last season I wondered how CEG was going to deal with the secondary women.  Valencia they kept on after they liked Gabriella Ruiz, but then does that mean there's less for Heather to do, and how is Paula needed then? Instead the show leaned in. I loved loved all the women in the episode.  I believe it too. Maybe in a routine social environment the women wouldn't hang out, but it's not uncommon for women, via their connections with other women, to have friends of diverse ages and backgrounds.  Paula plays "mom" to Rebecca really often, so it's good for her to bounce things off the other two when SHE has issues. 

I agree about Ruiz and musical numbers - she is so much fun to watch. But trulyl, all four women were obviously having a blast in their big number.

[dungeonwriter]

It's hard to watch Rebecca spiral even more. Like, it veers between cringing and entertainment. Rebecca needs serious help and each episode she doesn't get it, it's worse. 

I thought she'd crawl back to NYC, but she's definitely gone off the deep end. 

And so has Nathaniel. I swear, she's like a whirlpool of drama, everyone gets sucked in. You might get spit out like Greg, and be better or you might go down to the briny deep of drama like the Squad. 

Although Nathaniel's actor is awesome, playing an evil British Lord. 

[Rinaldo]

2 hours ago, dungeonwriter said:

Although Nathaniel's actor is awesome, playing an evil British Lord.

...firing George yet again, and getting to deliver my favorite line in the song: "the Jewish chick who got dumped by the r-r-ripped Filipino."

Edited October 16, 2017 by Rinaldo

[Glory]

20 hours ago, DianeDobbler said:

 

Both musical numbers were incredible, although of course, "Let's generalize about men" was brilliant. Last season I wondered how CEG was going to deal with the secondary women.  Valencia they kept on after they liked Gabriella Ruiz, but then does that mean there's less for Heather to do, and how is Paula needed then? Instead the show leaned in. I loved loved all the women in the episode.  I believe it too. Maybe in a routine social environment the women wouldn't hang out, but it's not uncommon for women, via their connections with other women, to have friends of diverse ages and backgrounds.  Paula plays "mom" to Rebecca really often, so it's good for her to bounce things off the other two when SHE has issues. 

My good friend's mother-in-law is definitely part of our friends group even if she's 25 years older than all of us! It's so funny when we're out shopping just the two of us and someone will comment on having a mother-daughter day and I'm just like, "Newp. This is just my friend." 

I love the diversity of girlfriends of Rebecca's #squad. 

I agree with the poster upthread, though, who said they wanted to binge this show. I do too. I found it on Netflix and this is the first season I'm watching live. I just want all the episodes to be here, though!

[Bruinsfan]

On 10/15/2017 at 2:45 AM, ElectricBoogaloo said:

I enjoyed both songs this week. The first one reminded me how much I miss Galavant.

As much as I want to say that White Josh was being judgey when he said that he ignores his friends' criticism that he's judgey because they're idiots, he isn't wrong. They ARE idiots!

I'm right there with you on both these issues. When Josh and Hector are the friends providing criticism, ignoring it would seem the wisest choice.

[Rinaldo]

So, after episode titles ending with an exclamation point in Season 1, and with a question mark in Season 2, are we beginning a season of declarative sentences (which, when used as titles, have no end punctuation)? I wonder what that leaves for a concluding Season 4 -- interrobang? ellipsis?

[txhorns79]

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 I never thought about Darryl being a catch before until I realized - yeah, he is.

I think for someone Darryl's age, Darryl's stability and positive attitude would make him a catch.  I think for someone White Josh's age, Darryl-types are a dime a dozen, and in fact, last season we saw that White Josh has worked his way through a lot of Darryl-types. 

Edited October 17, 2017 by txhorns79

[Eeksquire]

I love that they made Nathaniel quasi-obsessed with Rebecca and she is Over It.  His behavior is making her self-aware ("I am the queen of 'just happening to be somewhere'!"), even if only inadvertently.  

[Rinaldo]

47 minutes ago, Eeksquire said:

"I am the queen of 'just happening to be somewhere'!"

That was one of the greatest lines on the entire series.

[Blakeston]

17 hours ago, txhorns79 said:

I think for someone Darryl's age, Darryl's stability and positive attitude would make him a catch.  I think for someone White Josh's age, Darryl-types are a dime a dozen, and in fact, last season we saw that White Josh has worked his way through a lot of Darryl-types. 

Josh's explanation for being attracted to Darryl last season was that he likes older men who are smart and confident.

Unfortunately, law degree aside, Darryl is usually really dopey, and he spent last season showing that he was outrageously insecure. The "smart and confident" thing rang pretty hollow.

This episode was something of a departure from that. The anteater idea was clever (although showing up in a restaurant/bar with them rather than a gym or sporting event was a terrible idea), and the "I'm a catch" speech was one of the first times that he actually showed some confidence. Now that David Hull is a regular, I think the writers are trying to make the relationship seem more realistic.

[txhorns79]

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This episode was something of a departure from that. The anteater idea was clever (although showing up in a restaurant/bar with them rather than a gym or sporting event was a terrible idea), and the "I'm a catch" speech was one of the first times that he actually showed some confidence. Now that David Hull is a regular, I think the writers are trying to make the relationship seem more realistic.

I do think the idea of those two having serious discussions about raising a baby together seems bizarre.  I'm not even positive they live together, much less that their relationship is developed to the point where raising a kid is a logical step. 

[Rinaldo]

17 minutes ago, txhorns79 said:

I do think the idea of those two having serious discussions about raising a baby together seems bizarre.

I would too, but at this point it may be more about deciding if this is a deal-breaker, if they eventually move in together. If they're forever opposed on this point, it might be better to cut losses now.

In truth, though, this seems like the sort of story line that shows give audience-favorite couples so they can have some sort of story line and disagreements without a stain on anybody's character (no unfaithfulness, no substance abuse, etc.). To be a blissfully idyllic couple forever is sweet but also boring in story terms, so they have to have something to squabble about, and The Baby Discussion is what showrunners tend to cook up. 

[DianeDobbler]

Forgot to mention that I thought Rachel Bloom did some really great acting when her character got teary-angry and cried that she hadn't even seen Josh since before he deserted her at the altar  - they haven't talked, she hasn't laid eyes on him. Something about the way she delivered that really made Rebecca's experience real. The show is so hilarious, but the way Rachel Bloom delivered that dialogue I thought "God, that is just devastating."

[theatremouse]

On 10/14/2017 at 8:48 PM, SmithW6079 said:

Watching or laughing at someone who is descending into madness is not really my cup of tea.

I posit that watching someone descend into madness is essentially the premise of the whole series.

[aradia22]

First villager song... amazing. So many good jokes. George!

I am getting really into Nathaniel and Rebecca. It's not that I necessarily think they would be a great couple but I really like this dynamic. It works better than Trent (because that got too crazy too fast) and better than when Josh was chasing Rebecca. It's a cool power dynamic. 

Also love all the little callbacks like playing the fake Ed Sheeran song when Rebecca was... proving Nathaniel's interest. ;) I also loved how while all this was going on... there was just one of the "actors" in the background on his cellphone.

"I have no idea what that was. And I never want to discuss it."

Ah! Doctor Akopian's husband is also a therapist!

"Let's Generalize About Men" was fantastic. Especially the 80's vibe. Also, Gabrielle Ruiz finally got to show off her voice a little. I think the other Valencia songs didn't play to her strengths.

"Am I dead? How did I die?" I did think it would be better to sue Josh for Valencia's sake because of it ruining her business instead of Rebecca suing him because that seems more vindictive.

Aw, White Josh and Darrell. On the one hand, I like how they have a pretty healthy, functional relationship. On the other hand, I do wish their plotlines weren't so quickly resolved. They're always the B or C plot. 

I care so much more about Nathaniel and Robert and more backstory stuff and what they're planning for Valencia than the Ray-vehnge. 

[Trini]

Haaaaa! Did they really write a whole* subplot about making a sex tape just to have Vincent (and his abs!) in this episode without having Josh? My show is back!!!

Aw, I'm going to miss Superior Dr. Akopian. (But I don't think Other Akopian actually said he's a doctor...)

I was already over Nathaniel last season; nothing's changed with this episode.
 

On 10/14/2017 at 2:52 AM, possibilities said:

It's weird how this show manages to be feminist while it still has a very hard time passing the Bechdel Test.

Does it? I think most of the conversations between the women were about Rebecca.

 

*(yes, I know there were other reasons)

[LadyAmalthea]

As someone who enjoyed Nathaniel as a foil for Rebecca and wasn't impressed by him falling for her, I did like the role reversal in this episode ("I'm the queen of I just happened to be here" - great line).  I just can't see them as an endgame couple, they have successfully subverted romantic comedy tropes with the Josh and Greg relationships and I hope they do the same with Nathaniel.  

Loved Vincent as Fake Josh, and although I'm yet to see any real chemistry between Darryl and White Josh it's a nice B-plot.  The Ye Olde West Covina number was everything I wanted. 

But the real story is about the ladies, I love seeing these four interact and what a number in "Let's Generalize About Men".

[Glory]

19 hours ago, aradia22 said:

 

I am getting really into Nathaniel and Rebecca. It's not that I necessarily think they would be a great couple but I really like this dynamic. It works better than Trent (because that got too crazy too fast) and better than when Josh was chasing Rebecca. It's a cool power dynamic. 

What's funny is the "Who's the New Guy" song gets stuck in my head SO OFTEN. And I'm coming around to Nathaniel as well. 

I still think Trent is actually end game (assuming Greg never comes back). He and Rebecca are soul mates. They can be crazy to each other to their heart's content.