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Ms.Lulu

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7 hours ago, Redrum said:

Yup. I'm hard pressed to say whether they'd be lauded or derided for refusing to let Matt gift his grandchildren or refusing the gift of a used lawn mower that Matt originally got for free. 

Zach did ask for the lawn mower--he mentioned in his talking head that he did and it wasn't enough.

Given that he asked for it, if he refused the lawn mower later I think he'd look like an ass.  So I say derision.

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Irate Panda
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A rundown of the show imo: Two LP got married because neither one of them thought they could do better than the other. They had 4 kids, despite probably realizing they were not a good mat

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Ugh.  If I were Amy, I would be furious (and holding my cards very close to my chest).  That conversation in Matt’s office was nothing less than a three-on-one pile-on.  I just don’t understand how Am

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We all need to remember that we came in to their lives after they had 4 children and had lived on the farm for a number of years.  None of us saw the years leading up to that.  I don't know what Amy w

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Absolom

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8 hours ago, Libby said:

One more thing on the Matt and Caryn/Zach and Tori thing. Whether Matt thinks Zach and Tori are right or not, if his grandchildren are that important to him, he should try to make things right with Zach and Tori. I don't think that he should give them the farm at a price that he's not comfortable with. However, he obviously hurt their feelings in the meeting. If I were Matt, I wouldn't feel comfortable that I hurt my child's feelings. I would give him a heartfelt apology for hurting him and let him know how important he was to me. I wouldn't be yucking it up with my girlfriend in my confessionals trying to convince the public that I was right and my son was wrong. Matt doesn't seem all broken up that Zach and Tori are angry at him to me.

This.  The parent teaches the child how to treat people.  Matt is teaching that the deal/the money/being in charge is more important than relationships.  

I don't know what Amy did to them that Tori can't work up a minute of sure we want to see you in the holidays.   Obviously Amy will drive to visit them if that's the issue with all the medical things that obviously Zach and Tori themselves scheduled for December.  I bet she'd even pick up a meal if they asked (in case they prefer she not cook.)  I keep an eye on that so I'm not so overburdened that I don't have time for family in December.  

Regarding Jackson taking over, at granddaughter's second birthday, I grabbed up grandson and plopped him on my lap as his other grandma and that side relatives encouraged him to show his sister how it's done.  I wouldn't let him down to take over.  I whispered to him that it was her day and it was good manners to let her learn by herself just as he had when he was two.  They aren't doing that child any favors at all.  He's going to run into a point where he finds the world doesn't fawn on him and other kids feel the need to knock the arrogance out of him.  

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65mickey

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Zack was saying in the last episode that he was excited to design and build a tree house, a play yard with a sand box.  Can't wait to see that. My guess is that he'll whine enough and maybe put Jackson up to hinting to Grandpa that he sure would like a tree house and a play area.  And Grandpa thinking that this will surely smooth out Zack and Tori's ruffled feathers he'll probably fall for this. Don't do it Matt. Nothing short of handing over your farm gratis will suffice for those two ingrates.

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Harry Wails

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10 hours ago, ginger90 said:

what a couple losers,

4 adults sitting around in their jammies bitching about Matt 

Does this fugly bitch even know Matt? wow over reacting much, her dunce husband just sat there like a bump on a log looking embarrassed and waiting for the TLC pay check so he can sneak off to the strip club with Chris.

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Redrum

Redrum

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44 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

My guess in no, she’s probably never even met him. 

Even if effort has to be put into it, some  divorced couples can actually get along. All of the oh my god, your ex, is tiresome, to me.

Made worse that we then get a follow-up  at Matt's Love Cabin where he and Caryn have the same conversation with their friends over how they are having Chris and Amy over in Arizona. Friends we've never seen who likely haven't met Chris and Amy as well.

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Joan of Argh

Joan of Argh

Wtf is going on with Zachs Hair, it looks like he got in a fight with a raccoon and lost.. he’s got bald spots everywhere.

And what’s all that shit piled under the shuffleboard table at Amy’s house, boxes and boxes of Amy’s precious clowns and coffee mugs? 🙄

I found the entire episode boring and just more of the same old BS… they need to drop the Amy/Matt feud and move on already… *snore*
I don’t give a crap about Amy’s stupid neighbours or Matt and Caryns friends or their opinions, please stop force feeding us this same old shit.

I really wish ZiT would go away and stay away!

time for TLC to end this shit show 👎🏻

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Jeanne222

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33 minutes ago, 65mickey said:

I thought that this was a boring episode also. I kept falling asleep. Did they show any Christmas festivities? 

They sure did. Amy and Chris and their wanna be neighbors dressed in Christmas Pajamas eating Tater Tot potato casserole and then we had some poorly hung Christmas lights for the grand finale!  Zack sure did give that light display his all!!!  :)

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65mickey

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TLC has some of the most digusting programing on the air. Today they are showing reruns of Extreme Couponing from 2012, Dr. Pimple Popper, 600 Lb. life and a show about people with horrible foot conditions. And one of the worst Extreme Cheapskates where they don't flush the toilet after each use and other disgusting habits. So to be # 2 on this network is nothing to brag about.  

These reality shows have a shelf life. The Roloff  kids are grown and on their own. The only ones that are on the show now are the whiners. Amy spends her time with Babe and still being bitter about Matt and Caryn. The farm is up for sale.  And they can take a Christmas show and make it boring. I guess we are watching out of habit.  

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Irate Panda

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Most of these episodes I watch out of habit.  I mean we are at the point that they are dragging Amy’s neighbors and Matt’s friends over for opinions on stuff they probably don’t even know or care about.  

Zach is a so lazy.  He should have just taken the lights and threw them on the ground…same energy.  If mediocre was a person.  I’m surprised Tori couldn’t find some Christmas decorating company that would come put up lights for some IG shilling.  Tori and Zach are like two bumps on a log, I mean I’m waiting for guest-starring scone lady and her pajama-wearing husband to come on because they were more exciting.  
 

I wish they’d drop the Amy vs. Matt garbage, I mean she’s remarried and Matt is basically “married”, plus it’s boring and repetitive, and we certainly don’t need any of their friends’ commentary.  Although, I guess, they have to put something on since Jackson is the only one of his household (besides Murphy) that has even the appearance of a personality.

I’d rather see a road trip with Murphy and Henry than this mess.

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Shauna

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With all the hoopla (and fake effort) of Zach and his lights, I kind of thought they would be more impressive than they were. 

Whose idea was it for four ADULTS to dress in their jammies and eat dinner together?  That was a little too intimate for my taste. No one needs to see me in my jammies.  If absolutely  necessary (required by TLC), then at least pick out some decent, manly jammies for Chris to wear.  I was embarrassed for him.  For them.  I don't blame him for throwing a jacket, or whatever he was wearing, over those stupid pajamas.

Watching Amy cook and eat is flat out gross. 

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Absolom

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10 hours ago, Jeanne222 said:

Hummm. Per Katey WOACB the show is in the top five this season and last week #2!!!

They are consistently in the top 10 of the cable shows for the day with over a million viewers.  I think people perhaps got attached to the family when there were young children and keep watching even though the fun and drama are gone.  

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43 minutes ago, Absolom said:

They are consistently in the top 10 of the cable shows for the day with over a million viewers.  I think people perhaps got attached to the family when there were young children and keep watching even though the fun and drama are gone.  

Also with all the societal upheaval during the last several years it is almost like comfort food that’s it the same old same old with the Roloffs. 

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Dibs

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On 6/15/2022 at 10:40 PM, Hedgehog2022 said:

Matt still makes passive aggressive comments about Amy in a backhanded way…always followed by him grinning and doing his “ha ha ha” laugh.

As does Amy about Matt, as in "maybe they aren't getting enough visitors (in Arizona)" followed by "I'm just kidding!" when Chris objected.

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2 hours ago, Mahamid Frauded Me said:

I also noticed from Karen its all about Jackson..no mention of Lilah. Speaking of Jackson, my heart hurt for the little guy, his legs look bad. I am curious, how far is a bathroom from that cabin?  

Well, let's be real; Lilah isn't exactly Miss Personality. 

In fact, Z&T had to tell us that she's FINALLY getting one at age 2 1/2.  When all someone says is "uh" with no facial expressions, I'm not sure how much of a relationship one can have with her...  They certainly went all out for her birthday and tried to engage with her each time they've seen her, but it's not easy when she's just kind of "there" and screams for Tori every time someone walks in the door.  Speaking of which, does Tori ever put that kid down?  She's either holding or carrying her constantly.  It seems to me Lilah could benefit from some play dates with kids if not OT/PT.

Yes, his legs look worse than ever!  Should they, like the Klein kids, be going to LP specialists?  That said, Tori really needs to take lessons from M&A on coping like an adult with surgeries; her anxiety and hypersolicitousness surrounding the whole thing aren't helping, and this is just their FIRST child to undergo the FIRST procedure.  Yikes!

As for that absolutely adorable cabin -- well done again, Matt! -- it's primitive camping or rather "glamping" since there's IS a structure, nice beds, a cozy woodstove, etc.  Plenty of people camp without a bathroom or running water.  In fact, Zach and Jackson did this just recently in the farm forest unless they ran to Grandpa's house to use the facilities at 2:00 a.m.  I wouldn't put it past him.

It's also possible there's a folding portable potty somewhere or even a composting toilet, which is very compact; they make them for campers.

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5 hours ago, winsomeone said:

Amy is the only one whose pjs were skin tight. And she kept shaking her breasts in everyone's faces..gross. The top of her pjs was so stretched out that it hung down to her breasts...is her head that big to stretch it out that badly? 

Amy is very proud of her sexy self and never hesitates to show off her body, but that WAS awkward considering it was ONLY the next-door neighbors.  I had gotten the impression from the Insta pics at the time that it was a large gathering, which would be fun with all the different jammies on parade.  But just the four adults ready for bed was giving me swinger vibes.  Also, Amy, a "competition" is usually blind; you don't START OUT telling the judges which entry is yours versus Chris's.

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Libby

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This was a quieter, low drama episode. For the most part, I enjoyed it. I needed a break from the awkward, tense Matt and Caryn/Zach and Tori visits.

I enjoyed Chris and Amy cooking their casseroles and their game night with Zach's family.

I could live without the friends visits. I think that whenever these reality shows have friends discussing things with the main characters, it's boring. I really couldn't care less what the friends think or say.

I wouldn't want every episode to be like this one, but it was fine for one week.

Next week, Arizona... That should be interesting. 

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Dibs

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My thoughts: Would someone please rescue that poor dog from these ungrateful imbeciles?  "Who let the dog in?" and "he's probably just looking for food." Ugh!!! Shame on both of them, but especially Tori who "closed shop" on a reluctant Zach until he relented and bought Murphy who just melted into Chris when he showed him kindness and attention; he's so starved for it and unaccustomed to it.  At least he now has room to run, which is the ONLY upside of that new property from hell.

Agree that this was a boring episode.  If it's not uncomfortable family conflict, it's wannabe celebrity friends and neighbors or poor little Jackson suffering physically and emotionally, none of which is in the least entertaining.

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Jeanne222

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37 minutes ago, Dibs said:

Amy is very proud of her sexy self and never hesitates to show off her body, but that WAS awkward considering it was ONLY the next-door neighbors.  I had gotten the impression from the Insta pics at the time that it was a large gathering, which would be fun with all the different jammies on parade.  But just the four adults ready for bed was giving me swinger vibes.  Also, Amy, a "competition" is usually blind; you don't START OUT telling the judges which entry is yours versus Chris's.

I’m pretty sure the ‘guests’ were paid so maybe just two in the budget!

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Hedgehog2022

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3 hours ago, 65mickey said:

They don't have plumbing in the cabin?  No running water? Yuk! I thought it was very. cute but if there is no plumbing who would stay there? 

Another one of Matt's vanity projects that he continues to say he "built"...he had the idea and sketched it out and then put into the capable hands of a professional log cabin builder. 

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Hedgehog2022

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59 minutes ago, Libby said:

This was a quieter, low drama episode. For the most part, I enjoyed it. I needed a break from the awkward, tense Matt and Caryn/Zach and Tori visits.

I enjoyed Chris and Amy cooking their casseroles and their game night with Zach's family.

I could live without the friends visits. I think that whenever these reality shows have friends discussing things with the main characters, it's boring. I really couldn't care less what the friends think or say.

I wouldn't want every episode to be like this one, but it was fine for one week.

Next week, Arizona... That should be interesting. 

Let's be real...this Arizona trip was a coordinated and paid for by TLC to bring drama to the show. I am pretty sure Matt and Caryn did not have the idea to give Chris and Amy a wedding gift of visiting them in Arizona. The producers came up with this as a way of keeping viewers involved in some perceived tension and drama between these couples. 

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Hedgehog2022

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1 hour ago, Dibs said:

Well, let's be real; Lilah isn't exactly Miss Personality. 

In fact, Z&T had to tell us that she's FINALLY getting one at age 2 1/2.  When all someone says is "uh" with no facial expressions, I'm not sure how much of a relationship one can have with her...  They certainly went all out for her birthday and tried to engage with her each time they've seen her, but it's not easy when she's just kind of "there" and screams for Tori every time someone walks in the door.  Speaking of which, does Tori ever put that kid down?  She's either holding or carrying her constantly.  It seems to me Lilah could benefit from some play dates with kids if not OT/PT.

Yes, his legs look worse than ever!  Should they, like the Klein kids, be going to LP specialists?  That said, Tori really needs to take lessons from M&A on coping like an adult with surgeries; her anxiety and hypersolicitousness surrounding the whole thing aren't helping, and this is just their FIRST child to undergo the FIRST procedure.  Yikes!

As for that absolutely adorable cabin -- well done again, Matt! -- it's primitive camping or rather "glamping" since there's IS a structure, nice beds, a cozy woodstove, etc.  Plenty of people camp without a bathroom or running water.  In fact, Zach and Jackson did this just recently in the farm forest unless they ran to Grandpa's house to use the facilities at 2:00 a.m.  I wouldn't put it past him.

It's also possible there's a folding portable potty somewhere or even a composting toilet, which is very compact; they make them for campers.

I don't think it is fair to describe a small child as not being "exactly Miss Personality". She's only two years old! I suspect that Lilah might have some mild autism going on. She appears to be way behind verbally for her age and tends to play alone and not engage...all markers for autism. It doesn't help that her mother and father don't interact with her verbally and rarely play with her or read to her. Picking her up and carrying her around then plopping her down and walking away isn't interacting. They are way too invested in Jackson and give him tons of attention and interaction...poor Lilah is just left to her own world. I think if they were concerned at all about her age related markers like speech not being normal they would talk to their pediatrician about it and set up an appointment with a specialist. The sooner you tackle these things the better...I know firsthand since I have a child that was similar to Lilah and was very much speech delayed at age two.

First step was to get his hearing tested that rendered nothing and he was cleared. Once he started kindergarten, he was totally verbal but needed the help of a speech therapist to correct some pronounciation issues. He also had some physical education help as he was having difficulty with his small motor skills. All seemed to be going smoothly and he was  a straight A student all throughout  middle school and high school...college was more of a challenge socially and when he was a junior in college, a therapist suggested he get tested for autism. He was tested and diagnosed with Asperger's which is a mild form of autism that has markers in childhood like verbal delays and small motor skills issues. At the time when he was young, pediatricians were not knowledgable about autism and what to look for...now it's different and early intervention, even with a mild form of autism, is crucial to getting professional help to lead a healthy and productive life...Tori and Zach need to get Lilah a better pediatrician who can help her. 

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bichonblitz

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19 hours ago, Joan of Argh said:

And what’s all that shit piled under the shuffleboard table at Amy’s house, boxes and boxes of Amy’s precious clowns and coffee mugs? 🙄

Chris sure has mellowed out. There was a time something like that would have driven him crazy, now he's passive Chris making tater tot casseroles with his make believe neighbors and wearing ugly pj's to boot! Could marriage have changed him that much? He agrees to everything, nothing bothers him. Is pot legal in OR because it sure looks like it to me! 

Yes, Matt. You are right, you are close to 60 and getting too old to mess with the constant upkeep of the farm. Sell it!

I assumed the little cabin was more of a playhouse for the grandkids or a sort of man cave getaway, not a place where you would actually sleep over. Who knows. It was cute, though. 

What happened to Amy's besties Deb and what ever else the other one's name is? They used to be on all the time, even did those dreadul cooking segments on social media with Amy. This season we haven't seen them at all. 

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SunnyBeBe

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9 hours ago, MrBuhBye said:

Also with all the societal upheaval during the last several years it is almost like comfort food that’s it the same old same old with the Roloffs. 

I looked at some old photos of the family last night. Omg!  These are from the early seasons.  Scroll down to the one of Amy kissing Matt’s forehead!  Man, it takes me back.  Lol 

https://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/roloff-family-throwback-photos-134152/

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Endora

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The whole pajama thing was ridiculous and Amy running to the door when the neighbors arrived and striking a pose had me dying laughing.  Yes Amy your PJ’s are the nicest and you look the best.  None of the grown men I know would be caught dead having dinner with anyone in pajamas.  I thought the cabin looked very festive and was nice.  

Are ZiT calling their place a farm?  I don’t think it’s a farm.  It is just a house with property.  Is it zoned to be a farm?  The property J&A purchased is a farm and I think someone said it is only a short ride away from Roloff Farms.  Poor Murphy, I hope he is not kept outside permanently now.   What a disappointment those lights were, but I suppose that’s Zach’s best.  Game night dinner, Mac and Cheese and bagged Caesar salad. 

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10 minutes ago, Endora said:

The whole pajama thing was ridiculous and Amy running to the door when the neighbors arrived and striking a pose had me dying laughing.  Yes Amy your PJ’s are the nicest and you look the best.  None of the grown men I know would be caught dead having dinner with anyone in pajamas.  I thought the cabin looked very festive and was nice.  

Are ZiT calling their place a farm?  I don’t think it’s a farm.  It is just a house with property.  Is it zoned to be a farm?  The property J&A purchased is a farm and I think someone said it is only a short ride away from Roloff Farms.  Poor Murphy, I hope he is not kept outside permanently now.   What a disappointment those lights were, but I suppose that’s Zach’s best.  Game night dinner, Mac and Cheese and bagged Caesar salad. 

Yet Amy claims she makes everything from scratch lol.  Man after the corn dog muffins now we got casserole with warm cottage cheese inside.  

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pdlinda

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7 minutes ago, MrBuhBye said:

Yet Amy claims she makes everything from scratch lol.  Man after the corn dog muffins now we got casserole with warm cottage cheese inside.  

What I noticed about the food Amy (and Chris) serve is how HIGH CALORIE it is. 

The foods they serve seem to have a big emphasis on processed carbs and very little clean proteins, fruits and veggies. 

I can understand preparing tasty foods but from what I see, the foods she serves (Chris' casserole too) would pack the pounds on folks, especially in their age bracket.

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Hedgehog2022

Hedgehog2022

15 hours ago, Irate Panda said:

Most of these episodes I watch out of habit.  I mean we are at the point that they are dragging Amy’s neighbors and Matt’s friends over for opinions on stuff they probably don’t even know or care about.  

Zach is a so lazy.  He should have just taken the lights and threw them on the ground…same energy.  If mediocre was a person.  I’m surprised Tori couldn’t find some Christmas decorating company that would come put up lights for some IG shilling.  Tori and Zach are like two bumps on a log, I mean I’m waiting for guest-starring scone lady and her pajama-wearing husband to come on because they were more exciting.  
 

I wish they’d drop the Amy vs. Matt garbage, I mean she’s remarried and Matt is basically “married”, plus it’s boring and repetitive, and we certainly don’t need any of their friends’ commentary.  Although, I guess, they have to put something on since Jackson is the only one of his household (besides Murphy) that has even the appearance of a personality.

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Poor Murphy...he deserves a better home where the hoomans love him and actually make him a part of the family. 

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Joan of Argh

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2 hours ago, pdlinda said:

What I noticed about the food Amy (and Chris) serve is how HIGH CALORIE it is. 

The foods they serve seem to have a big emphasis on processed carbs and very little clean proteins, fruits and veggies. 

I can understand preparing tasty foods but from what I see, the foods she serves (Chris' casserole too) would pack the pounds on folks, especially in their age bracket.

Exactly most of her recipes are high calorie, lots of fat, tons of garlic she also uses a lot of salt.

I can’t remember which recipe (it might have been her oven casserole French toast) she kept adding more heavy cream and more huge blobs of butter and chunks of cream cheese… then tons of syrup and whipped cream… I was like holy cow how much more cream, butter, cheese is she gonna add before it’s rich enough for her liking?  😖

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Jeanne222

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1 hour ago, 65mickey said:

When Tori was getting ready for Lilah's party she was doing all of the work and Zack was stretched out on the floor like some kind of bathing beauty. He did tell her not to stress out but he didn't bother to get up and lift a finger to help. Nice guy. 

I noticed that too. His usual self. All talk and no show!

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