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A rundown of the show imo: Two LP got married because neither one of them thought they could do better than the other. They had 4 kids, despite probably realizing they were not a good mat

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Ugh.  If I were Amy, I would be furious (and holding my cards very close to my chest).  That conversation in Matt’s office was nothing less than a three-on-one pile-on.  I just don’t understand how Am

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We all need to remember that we came in to their lives after they had 4 children and had lived on the farm for a number of years.  None of us saw the years leading up to that.  I don't know what Amy w

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3 minutes ago, pdlinda said:

I think I read they purchased the new house for $970K?  

Maybe I'm off a bit but it was around that figure.

Holy s--t! That's 250K more than they sold the other one for. I don't understand where all their money is coming from. The only scenario I can think of is that the money he made when he was a minor and on the show was put in to a trust for him and the other kids plus what he and Tori are  making for being on the show now. They have to know that gravy train is gonna end some day. I hope they are good savers and investors. 

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Hedgehog2022

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On 5/22/2022 at 3:14 PM, 65mickey said:

Could Zack and Tori have acted any more spoiled and entitled? They didn't get their way with the farm so basically they said we'll show Dad we'll take the kids away from the farm.     And Zack trying to use his kids as a bargaining chip by asking Matt how much it was worth it to him to have his grandchildren on the farm was the height of selfishness.  Matt played it cool and didn't whine and cry and beg them to stay. When they didnt get the reaction they wanted Tori said that's why we are moving.  Good luck to these two finding a way to support themselves when the TLC show ends. 

I can see both sides of this family spat...maybe that's because my parents divorced when all of us kids were adults. I get Zach's disappointment at how things went in a "negotiation" with his father...he's not a stranger making an offer for a part of the farm...he's his son. Matt can't separate the two..and actually, some things he said about Zach in the interview were things a father shouldn't say about his son in a public forum, IMO. On the other hand, I get some of Matt's side. He feels that Zach never fully went "all in" in learning about how to run the farm...from the management side and the business side. I get that...all of his sons are basically lazy. They spent most of their childhood playing and goofing around. They were never given chores to do around the farm which typically most farm families require of their kids. So Zach just viewed the buying of that parcel as a means of living in a nice house and having some land for the kids to play on and explore... they both went into this meeting with their own personal power points which were never going to be agreed to.

Frankly, I think Matt was never going to hand over the farm to any of the kids...despite his claims that he wanted to see the grandkids enjoy it like his kids did. Now that the real estate market is a sellers market he sees his chance to make a profit in the sale of portions of it and he and his gal pal can ride off into the Arizona sunset and live well and maybe even buy a vacation place in Hawaii.

We can debate whether Zach and Tori made a hasty decision to move out of spite or a need to break free from the Roloff farm and family issues. But personally, I think it's a good decision for them. They need to live an independant life as grown ups. They may fail or end up being successful...time will tell. Time and love will heal all wounds and hopefully the grandchildren won't be  part of this drama for too long.

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They moved to Washington State basically because they didn't get their way with buying the farm on their terms so they took the kids away from Matt. It's akin to saying if I don't get my way I'll take my toys and go home. It was clear from their response to Matt not giving in to them that both Tori and Zack were majorly pissed and figuratively stormed off in a temper tantrum. And now they expect Tori's mom and dad and grandmother to move back to where they are living to be their baby sitting squad. 

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Irate Panda

Irate Panda

2 hours ago, 65mickey said:

They moved to Washington State basically because they didn't get their way with buying the farm on their terms so they took the kids away from Matt. It's akin to saying if I don't get my way I'll take my toys and go home. It was clear from their response to Matt not giving in to them that both Tori and Zack were majorly pissed and figuratively stormed off in a temper tantrum. And now they expect Tori's mom and dad and grandmother to move back to where they are living to be their baby sitting squad. 

I did think it was crappy that it seemed like they just expected Tori’s parents and maybe her grandma to just up and move again.  I mean maybe she already talked to them about it, but it seemed really really entitled.

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Boston

Just woke up after a short nap.  Amy is feeding Matt chicken cacciatore ???? and he HATES MUSHROOMS?  AND she doesn't know if he HATE ONIONS???  What in the hell is wrong with her (at least Chris asked her.. she didn't care).  Talk about passive-aggressive.  lol

3 hours ago, DonnaMae said:

Job?  What job?  Neither Zach nor Tori works.  They're 'celebrities'.  That is their job. 🙄

I have to repeat.. JOB???????????????

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winsomeone

winsomeone

Does Zack realize how dumb he looked and sounded when he said that he really showed his dad up by telling him "No." And that no one ever tells Matt "no" and that it shocked him. Matt supposedly cut off 15 acres of the land that Zack especially likes and wanted. Then he raised the asking price way higher than he knew Zack could afford? And Zack comes out the winner in this game? I think not. Matt did what he did as he never wanted Zack to own that house and the land that went with it. Zack will also discover that no one really cares about your kids except for you...except maybe their grand parents. Has anyone given Jackson the stuff that Matt has, or babysat him like he and Caryn have? I don't think so. He will replace them with whom? Who will understand and accept Zack's kids like another little person does and will?

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1 hour ago, winsomeone said:

Zack will also discover that no one really cares about your kids except for you...except maybe their grand parents.

This makes Matt's several times repeated "I was relieved that Zach decided to not buy the farm" an interesting contrast.

I thought Zach meant no one ended the game with Matt before by refusing to play. I think Matt ultimately wanted Zach to "buy" the farm with Matt's terms and to be under Matt's control, doing whatever Matt says. Now in their own way, I think Molly and Jeremy have also ended the game of "who gets the farm" by no longer playing so Zach bragging how no one does this is silly.

1 hour ago, winsomeone said:

Has anyone given Jackson the stuff that Matt has, or babysat him like he and Caryn have?

Love isn't about gifts. It also takes opposing sides to have a fight. Matt decided he wanted what he thinks is fair market value for the farm. Zach decided he didn't want to pay that price and moved to a more affordable piece of property rather than be in the same position Matt is currently in to Amy. 

Jackson isn't so far away that Matt - if he chooses - can't have a relationship. Matt still drives and whether its 45 minutes or an hour and a half, it's still an easy day drive to go see Jackson. Its not as though Matt has a 9 to 5 job. If he doesn't have time to see his grandson because the farm is too important.... That's Matt making a choice about what's important. Zach and Tory haven't said "Matt and Caryn can't visit us" - just that they aren't going to the farm. It appears this started in the Portland property where its a 15 minute drive if Matt and Caryn want to visit. It is also possible for Matt to do Zoom visits if he's going to argue that travel is too difficult. 

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Endora

Endora

I thought the dinner together went well.  They seem to be getting more comfortable with each other.  Amy wanted to bust out laughing so badly when Matt was talking about the stroller, but she held it in.   Not sure if it is part of the script or not but Chris seems to really want to be “friendly” with Matt and Caryn.  Zach and Tori are annoying and boring.  Spare us the ridiculous little comments about Zach in that body suit🫣.  Their kids are not entertaining either and IMO not all that cute.  I thought Zach had a very bad back?  Wasn’t he getting shots and almost had to have surgery?   How is he now a weight lifter winning medals?  I do think it is good that he wants to healthier and stronger for his family.  

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Dibs

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3 hours ago, Endora said:

Zach and Tori are annoying and boring.  Spare us the ridiculous little comments about Zach in that body suit🫣.  Their kids are not entertaining either and IMO not all that cute.  I thought Zach had a very bad back?  Wasn’t he getting shots and almost had to have surgery?   How is he now a weight lifter winning medals?  

That reminded me of Whitney Way Thore on MBFFL "winning" her weight-lifting competition or placing second when there were only two contestants or whatever it was; a TLC ploy.  Indeed Zach does have spinal stenosis and a herniated disc and now three (it appears) dwarf children facing surgeries he'll have to carry around at some point.  He was lucky that his reabsorbed with injections, but paralysis and surgery were looming, and Tori was freaking out about it.  Now he's aggravating the dormant condition by lifting weights and blaming MATT for the pain?  Please!  Also, is he somehow cheating on that weight limit by being so short (most 125-pound average-size adult men would be very skinny), and did he even hold that lift?  I saw him straining, leaning, swaying, trembling, the support men grabbing it, then Zach being declared the winner.  How about letting Jackson see that LP male role models "can achieve goals" by letting him hang with Matt who is amazing?  Or at least see Zach act like a grown-up, take his lumps maturely, and get a real job...

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1 hour ago, Dibs said:

That reminded me of Whitney Way Thore on MBFFL "winning" her weight-lifting competition or placing second when there were only two contestants or whatever it was; a TLC ploy.  Indeed Zach does have spinal stenosis and a herniated disc and now three (it appears) dwarf children facing surgeries he'll have to carry around at some point.  He was lucky that his reabsorbed with injections, but paralysis and surgery were looming, and Tori was freaking out about it.  Now he's aggravating the dormant condition by lifting weights and blaming MATT for the pain?  Please!  Also, is he somehow cheating on that weight limit by being so short (most 125-pound average-size adult men would be very skinny), and did he even hold that lift?  I saw him straining, leaning, swaying, trembling, the support men grabbing it, then Zach being declared the winner.  How about letting Jackson see that LP male role models "can achieve goals" by letting him hang with Matt who is amazing?  Or at least see Zach act like a grown-up, take his lumps maturely, and get a real job...

Yeah unless a man were very short 125 would be an unhealthy weight and the guy would probably have zero muscles so not sure what the record really means.  Maybe there should be an LP category since they are built differently.  Also it seemed like one of the judges voted red on the squat so he got two out of three.  I would think for a national or world record you would want all three judges to agree it was a correct form lift.

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bichonblitz

bichonblitz

Hmmm I will have to remember the next time I have guests for dinner to intentionally put ingredients in the meal that I know they don't like. Wtf Amy? She still has so much underlying hostility towards Matt. I guess this season TLC put in the script that she needs to go along to get along with Matt and we the viewers need to see how deliriously happily married she and Chris are.  Chris needs to stop pushing the friendship with Matt and Caryn, it's annoying. 

Caryn has put on alot of weight. When she was standing in Amy's kitchen it was really noticable. 

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11 minutes ago, bichonblitz said:

Hmmm I will have to remember the next time I have guests for dinner to intentionally put ingredients in the meal that I know they don't like. Wtf Amy? She still has so much underlying hostility towards Matt. I guess this season TLC put in the script that she needs to go along to get along with Matt and we the viewers need to see how deliriously happily married she and Chris are.  Chris needs to stop pushing the friendship with Matt and Caryn, it's annoying. 

Caryn has put on alot of weight. When she was standing in Amy's kitchen it was really noticable. 

Matt does seem to have a child’s palate.  For a farmer he doesn’t seem to like many vegetables.

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Irate Panda

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Amy putting mushrooms and onions in the food despite Matt not liking them didn’t really surprise me because I’m pretty sure she had ingredients Chris didn’t like in a couple of her IG lives or videos and if she doesn’t care about MY MAN to change it I doubt she cares enough to change recipes for Matt.

It was nice that she said she wanted to get past the negativity with Matt and Caryn, I don’t expect any of them to be best friends despite the bromance, but it’s nice if they’re at least not warring.  

I really didn’t think it odd Chris offered to be a tour guide because I’ve said I really think he likes hanging out on the farm and it was in the script and he might be good at it as a realtor explains different properties,  once he learns the scripts lol, but we’ll see if the bromance holds up if he does because we still need episode shenanigans for filler. Will there be silence and chirping like Zach’s tours. 😂 

Boring stuff with Zach and Tori working out….not really interested in watching a toddler sit on the ground and a preschooler kick a ball, but I’m also not interested in the weight competition…got enough of that on MBFFL.  Although I’d gladly watch both over Tori gushing over Zach’s singlet 🙄

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Fostersmom

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3 hours ago, bichonblitz said:

Hmmm I will have to remember the next time I have guests for dinner to intentionally put ingredients in the meal that I know they don't like. Wtf Amy? She still has so much underlying hostility towards Matt. I guess this season TLC put in the script that she needs to go along to get along with Matt and we the viewers need to see how deliriously happily married she and Chris are.  Chris needs to stop pushing the friendship with Matt and Caryn, it's annoying. 

Caryn has put on alot of weight. When she was standing in Amy's kitchen it was really noticable. 

She purposely puts ingredients in things for her current husband knowing Chris doesn't like them, Matt not liking them isn't going to stop her. 

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Harry Wails

Harry Wails

3 hours ago, Endora said:

How about thanking people by taking them out to a nice restaurant and paying the bill?   I would much prefer that to eating Amy’s finger licking slop.  

That' would've been nice but old penny pinching Amy would never dust off her wallet and treat anyone to a restaurant meal.

I wouldn't eat anything she cooks, seen way too many videos of her licking fingers, spoons, forks and then back into the food... not to mention her talking with her mouth full and food dripping out of the corners.

Amy probably doesn't have a good sense of taste, during one video she was dumping HEAPING TABLESPOONS of garlic powder into a standard size pot of soup.... at the end of her video when going over the ingredients and giving measurements she estimated the garlic powder and said  "oh heck, I'd say 1/4 of a cup" 😵

Don't get me wrong... I LIKE garlic but WHO puts 1/4 cup of garlic powder in a normal sized pot of soup?!?!

GOOGLED THIS: One-eighth teaspoon of garlic powder is equal to one standard-sized garlic clove. 

Her breath could knock Godzilla on his ass!

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2 hours ago, Irate Panda said:

Amy putting mushrooms and onions in the food despite Matt not liking them didn’t really surprise me because I’m pretty sure she had ingredients Chris didn’t like in a couple of her IG lives or videos that Chris didn’t like and if she doesn’t care about MY MAN to change it I doubt she cares enough to change recipes for Matt.

It was nice that she said she wanted to get past the negativity with Matt and Caryn, I don’t expect any of them to be best friends despite the bromance, but it’s nice if they’re at least not warring.  

I really didn’t think it odd Chris offered to be a tour guide because I’ve said I really think he likes hanging out on the farm and it was in the script and he might be good at it as a realtor explains different properties,  once he learns the scripts lol, but we’ll see if the bromance holds up if he does because we still need episode shenanigans for filler. Will there be silence and chirping like Zach’s tours. 😂 

Boring stuff with Zach and Tori working out….not really interested in watching a toddler sit on the ground and a preschooler kick a ball, but I’m also not interested in the weight competition…got enough of that on MBFFL.  Although I’d gladly watch both over Tori gushing over Zach’s singlet 🙄

She kept acting like it was sexy but he had the crotch of a Ken doll.

6 minutes ago, Munchkin said:

I wouldn't eat anything she cooks, seen way too many videos of her licking fingers, spoons, forks and then back into the food... not to mention her talking with her mouth full and food dripping out of the corners.

I did see Caryn touching one of the desserts with her bare finger, perhaps to see if it was thawed.  Hope that was the one she ate.  Also Matt thanked them for the dessert that he brought lol.

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Irate Panda

Irate Panda

1 hour ago, DonnaMae said:

It's probably just for the TV series.  Maybe it's to add some humor to an episode.

Yeah, I’m sure they’ll have him stumble around a bit with it, but I do think he enjoys hanging out at the farm.  Overall, I think it’s mostly a storyline for one of the episodes though I think he can at least put a coherent sentence together if he learned whatever their normal script for the tour is or the history of the farm.  
 

Maybe his name tag will be MYMAN or he’ll do a crappy job as tour guide and be Amy’s sidekick in some coordinating costume instead!

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Redrum

Redrum

3 hours ago, winsomeone said:

Isn't Matt a diabetic who is on a controlled diet? If so, a broiled chicken breast would have been much better for him so he could calculate what he was allowed to eat at that meal.

Matt is a diabetic and he's also a grown man and not a child so it's his responsibility and no one else's to make dietary decisions for himself. Judging by the photos of Matt and Caryn chowing down on instagram and sometimes here, Matt eats as he likes despite his diabetes and Caryn his life partner doesn't remind him he's on a controlled diet.

Its also his job as the person with the health problem to speak up and so no, instead of eating whatever is put in front of him no matter that it may not be on his controlled diet. He's an adult. 

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Jeanne222

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Diabetics are responsible but if you hostess a dinner for a diabetic you lived with for many years I would like to think the hostess would take the condition into consideration when planning the menu.   Matt may not always make the right food choices but he had NO choice there.

Even catering companies and party planners give choices. 

Since this was a four person dinner it would have been thoughtful for Amy to go into her little kitchen and plan something they could all enjoy!

Bottoms up!

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On 5/25/2022 at 8:09 AM, Jeanne222 said:

Amy is a big talker when she talks about Matt giving in!

I'm guessing Amy is really angry at even the thought Matt might sell her old North side and double the money!  

Lol like Amy would sacrifice anything for anybody!  Cry me a river Amy!

Exactly; why couldn't Amy have simply sold it to Zach for that amount instead of to Matt???

Because Z&T were being wishy-washy.  It's easy to be generous with someone else's money!

Also, IIRC, Amy was horrified at Zach's sudden interest in becoming the next Roloff "farmer."

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Irate Panda

Irate Panda

4 minutes ago, Dibs said:

Exactly; why couldn't Amy have simply sold it to Zach for that amount instead of to Matt???

Because Z&T were being wishy-washy.  It's easy to be generous with someone else's money!

Also, IIRC, Amy was horrified at Zach's sudden interest in becoming the next Roloff "farmer."

Just now, Jeanne222 said:

I never thought of that but why not???

Was there a clause where Matt got first right of refusal when Amy sold?  I really don’t remember but either way I couldn’t see Zach and Tori running the farm…I think they both like the idea of the farm but both seem immature and yes they could hire someone to run it but Zach seems so cheap and I really don’t think he’s that bright or it hasn’t been displayed on the show imo. 

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Redrum

Redrum

Matt's a grown man and he absolutely had a choice to not simply stuff his face with something he knew was bad for him. Its called speaking up and saying he can't eat x for health reasons. Or calling ahead and reminding Amy, who historically isn't very considerate or even better Chris who is his pal and saying he needs a special meal. If he forgot, he can indeed choose not to eat or special order himself some food delivered. They live in a major city, I'm sure they have door dash. 

People with special dietary needs have to police themselves. I'm not trying to be a jerk here, I have allergies and gluten sensitivity so if someone puts a plate of breaded shrimp in front of me, I don't just shovel it in. Matt's 60 years old and able say no.

2 minutes ago, Dibs said:

Exactly; why couldn't Amy have simply sold it to Zach for that amount instead of to Matt???

Because Z&T were being wishy-washy.  It's easy to be generous with someone else's money!

Also, IIRC, Amy was horrified at Zach's sudden interest in becoming the next Roloff "farmer."

In the endless sell the farm talks it was revealed that part of Matt and Amy's agreement in selling was that before they could sell to a third party, the co-owner had to be offered the option to buy. So Amy or Matt couldn't sell their share of the property without first offering to each other. In that scenario, Zach wants to buy, Amy wants to sell, and Matt has to agree that he's not interested in buying from Amy first.

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Dibs

Dibs

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14 minutes ago, Jeanne222 said:

I never thought of that but why not???

Probably because right after dramatically announcing that he wanted the farmhouse, he told Tori they weren't moving to the farm after all, ever, no way Jose.  She was like, "Wait, what; never?  Why?" and he replied that he didn't want his father telling him what to do (like Matt doesn't know how to run the farm). How long are people supposed to wait around for Amy and Zach to make up their minds about things?  He sure is his mother's son!

As for the dinner, I don't think it was that big a deal; if Matt is even insulin dependent (he may be Type II managed by pills), he would just adjust accordingly; diabetics do it all the time.  But putting mushrooms and onions in there was definitely a passive-aggressive AH move on "Little Kitchen's" part (fun fact: Zach also famously hates mushrooms).

I don't believe Chris giving tours is "just for the show"; he has plenty of free time, a flexible schedule, is always up for making more money to play the market with, and is at least as in love with the farm as he is with Amy -- or with Matt, as the case may be.

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On 5/17/2022 at 5:02 PM, Dustbunny said:
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I thought it was hilarious how upset Chris seemed about Zach and Tori moving away, Amy sat there like a bump on a log and Chris kept saying stuff like "But it's 45 minutes away" etc etc.... he knows what this means... He'll have to spend more time with the little Bulldozer because she'll have less distractions near home to keep her busy and out of his hair.

Like I keep sayin' the whole family adds up to zero,not a good one in the bunch except for the one that stays out of it.She is the smartest one. The others are selfish famewhore scum.

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Amy owned half of the north half of the farm.  So if she sold her half to Zack he would have co-owned the north half with Matt.  The reason why it costs more for Zack to buy the entire north half is that he would be buying both Matt’s half and Amy’s former half. So he was delusional if he thought he could get the entire north half for anything close to what Matt paid Amy for just half of it.

And by referring to Matt and Amy’s halves I mean undivided co-ownership of the entire north half not ownership of distinct portions of the north half.

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Back Atcha

Back Atcha

6 hours ago, Redrum said:

Judging by the photos of Matt and Caryn chowing down on instagram and sometimes here, Matt eats as he likes despite his diabetes and Caryn his life partner doesn't remind him he's on a controlled diet.

Matt's "problems" with various foods are ONLY when Amy's meals are involved.  He and Caryn don't seem to eliminate ANY foods when they're on their own. 

Caryn is NOT a Roloff.  Unless she has been made some legal representative, why does she have a major voice in legal decisions for PW Matt?  This show is more soapy every season.

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SunnyBeBe

SunnyBeBe

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I finally watched the last episode….omg!  Too funny. I lol multiple times!   The two couples!  Hysterical….the adult stroller discussion……flowers….bromanse…..just awesome.   I ff through as much of the rest as I could.  I have zero interest in Zach and his family…..done and over them.  I see no place in this show for them with their sour grapes.  That’s Amy’s role.  🤣
 

I look forward to seeing Chris learn the ropes on the farm for pumpkin season.  And Amy dressed in her costumes.  Will Chris dress up too?  This could get kinky? 🥴
 

I don’t get the point of sneaking stuff in the food, but some cooks are stubborn about their dishes.  I wouldn’t be too concerned over that small plate of food she served.  I’m a type I diabetic and we’d just take insulin to cover the carbs.  Some Type Two’s take insulin too, but mainly they take pills to manage blood sugar levels and a moderate plate of food with carbs is not improper.  The sauce can be tricky.   My endocrinologists from Duke and UNC have never advocated carb free meals, though some go that route (Keto).  I didn’t realize Matt had diabetes.  Most older adults develop type two, but type one is possible at any age.   
 

So far, the season is going well.  I do hate it’s so far behind current time.  They said it was only 3 weeks after Amy’s wedding!  
 

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Grrarrggh

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I'm watching this programme for the first time, starting with Series 1 and my god do I feel bad for Molly, Jacob, Zach and Amy, in that order. The first few series were okay, typical early aughts "reality", but by series five or so it's almost painful to watch. Eight has just started and I'm a bit astounded at how little the twins have prepared for their post high school years. Was all the college and job talk just a storyline? Were they all pretending because they knew LPBW was their actual plans but they couldn't come out and admit that? I mean, both got low SAT scores and grades but Matt is wondering outloud about top schools like Pepperdine and UCLA?! It's like he was living in a dream world. I sure hope their private school was cheap because it didn't seem to be doing a great job. 

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Irate Panda

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1 hour ago, Grrarrggh said:

I'm watching this programmer for the first time, starting with Series 1 and my god do I feel bad for Molly, Jacob, Zach and Amy, in that order. The first few series were okay, typical early aughts "reality", but by series five or so it's almost painful to watch. Eight has just started and I'm a bit astounded at how little the twins have prepared for their post high school years. Was all the college and job talk just a storyline? Were they all pretending because they knew LPBW was their actual plans but they couldn't come out and admit that? I mean, both got low SAT scores and grades but Matt is wondering outloud about top schools like Pepperdine and UCLA?! It's like he was living in a dream world. I sure hope their private school was cheap because it didn't seem to be doing a great job. 

Amy was an aide or helper of some sort at one of their schools when the twins were younger, so maybe they got some sort of tuition discount, but it didn’t seem like the twins learned much at any school they went to because one of them didn’t even know the abbreviation for Oregon when the went to the community college to visit and Jeremy didn’t seem capable of filling out an application.  Although, I don’t know Zach even attempted anything until Amy basically dragged both the twins to some sort of meeting with an advisor.  IIRC, one of the twins blurted out they basically wanted to go to X school because they waited too long to do anything else. 
 

Honestly, I fast-forwarded a lot of the scene because it was so cringeworthy. I remember Matt seemed to blather on about Jeremy attending schools like Wharton 🙄   I’m pretty sure Matt knew never twin was going anywhere except the kitchen for a sandwich.  If anything he should have maybe suggested a trade school Jeremy, so maybe he would have learn how not to screw up most things he tries to repair or build.  Trade school could have taught him a skill and discipline but IMO Jeremy is lazy.  Zach also seemed to have zero motivation and not particularly bright to me, but back then I think Jeremy was treated more like the Golden Child back then, but I think both parents knew their kids’ limitations academically despite what they might have said.

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