S12.E08: Run For Your Wife

[ghoulina]

It was a lot more interesting in season one, when Vicki worked out of her home and was trying to get Lauri to be a successful agent, but homegirl kept having to run off and pick up Josh for causing trouble at school. 

[Juneau Gal]

On 8/31/2017 at 5:24 PM, SCS said:

 

David's workout regimen (taking him at his word that it is indeed a workout regimen) shouldn't put that much strain on the marriage. Shannon's constant clinging need for affirmation, her endless feng shui and alternative health therapies and, very likely, needing a plastic tube dug out of her heinie --now, that will put a strain on their relationship.

True that! 

I trained for and ran marathons, recreationally, in my past. It took no more than an hour of my time 4 days a week plus several hours on the weekend for the long run. It was not a hardship to my spouse or a strain on our relationship. I like Shannon but her constant, unending need mixed with her obvious mistrust and lack of true forgiveness of David is what is ruining her marriage......along with David's cheating that is. 

[biakbiak]

5 minutes ago, Juneau Gal said:

True that! 

I trained for and ran marathons, recreationally, in my past. It took no more than an hour of my time 4 days a week plus several hours on the weekend for the long run. It was not a hardship to my spouse or a strain on our relationship. I like Shannon but her constant, unending need mixed with her obvious mistrust and lack of true forgiveness of David is what is ruining her marriage......along with David's cheating that is. 

But that's not David's training schedule so that is on him.

[chenoa333]

17 hours ago, DebbieM4 said:

There were a lot of posts re the butterfly.

I didn't see anything about Lydia and her Mom and that silly kissing thing, though.  Personally, I think I blocked it out.  I absolutely cannot stand Lydia or her mother.  And I think her husband is creepy.  I didn't like Lydia first time around, but this time she is truly unbearable.  Total pot-stirrer with her fake innocent wide-eyed look.  

The whole cast is pretty boring, IMO.  I miss Heather.  I didn't always like her, but she added a lot to this show, and was far more interesting than any of the current cast, not to mention smarter.   No one in this current group seems to have any intelligence whatsoever.

Yes! She looks like Bugs Bunny mated with Bambi!

[Hockey Addict]

I keep thinking about Lydia's son crying after Doug showed him that pic before the race. Uh, earth to Doug, he's a KID and that's his mom. It is going to scare him thinking she could get hurt! I can remember when I was a little Hockey Addict and I saw my grandma getting blood drawn and I cried because I thought the needle might hurt. Call me too sensetive but to a child some things are just that way.

[RedheadZombie]

On ‎9‎/‎2‎/‎2017 at 8:18 PM, MissMel said:

As a nurse, one of things I'd always feared was an uncontrollable nose bleed.  I took care of these patients a lot, and next to kidney stones (which I've also had), they always seemed the most miserable - Pale, diaphoretic, vomiting the blood that's drained down their throat, and the pain of having one or two large balloons inserted and inflated into their nostrils.  Well what do you know, but it happened to me about eight years ago.  I stood up and BAM, and it was poring.  By the time I got to my bathroom sink and bent my head down, it was gushing from my nose and my mouth.  Well I wasn't about to go and have the balloons inserted, so shoved huge wads of toilet paper up my nose and held pressure on my nose.  That was well and truly one of the most disgusting things I've ever felt.  You can't breathe, even with packing you can feel it oozing down your throat, and the blood clots!  My poor mother assisted when I changed the packing and there was a blood clot at least four inches long.  The only good thing is I missed the carpet, and my towels were burgundy. 

Sorry for such a dreadful story, but I'm really feeling for Shannon.  I'm starting to think I should create a website where we healthcare workers can tell our disgusting stories without grossing out the innocent.  And yes, I was analyzing Shannon's hand for a good vein. 

[Mindthinkr]

15 minutes ago, RedheadZombie said:

As a nurse, one of things I'd always feared was an uncontrollable nose bleed.  I took care of these patients a lot, and next to kidney stones (which I've also had), they always seemed the most miserable - Pale, diaphoretic, vomiting the blood that's drained down their throat, and the pain of having one or two large balloons inserted and inflated into their nostrils.  Well what do you know, but it happened to me about eight years ago.  I stood up and BAM, and it was poring.  By the time I got to my bathroom sink and bent my head down, it was gushing from my nose and my mouth.  Well I wasn't about to go and have the balloons inserted, so shoved huge wads of toilet paper up my nose and held pressure on my nose.  That was well and truly one of the most disgusting things I've ever felt.  You can't breathe, even with packing you can feel it oozing down your throat, and the blood clots!  My poor mother assisted when I changed the packing and there was a blood clot at least four inches long.  The only good thing is I missed the carpet, and my towels were burgundy. 

Sorry for such a dreadful story, but I'm really feeling for Shannon.  I'm starting to think I should create a website where we healthcare workers can tell our disgusting stories without grossing out the innocent.  And yes, I was analyzing Shannon's hand for a good vein. 

Agreed, there should be a website or thread where medical things can be shared and understood. So many times I'd come home from a particularly difficult shift and have no one to share or vent with. Great idea. Lol on the vein in the hand! 

[DebbieM4]

2 hours ago, chenoa333 said:

Yes! She looks like Bugs Bunny mated with Bambi!

LOL!  I usually don't like to say anything about people's looks, but in this case I have no problem because she's annoying, full of herself, shallow, and vapid.  She really thinks she's all kinds of adorable, so your description (which is dead-on!) is perfectly fine with me.  :-)

She and her husband are both unattractive, IMO.  And they both creep me out.   Something (or more likely several somethings) is/are not right there.

[DebbieM4]

2 hours ago, Hockey Addict said:

I keep thinking about Lydia's son crying after Doug showed him that pic before the race. Uh, earth to Doug, he's a KID and that's his mom. It is going to scare him thinking she could get hurt! I can remember when I was a little Hockey Addict and I saw my grandma getting blood drawn and I cried because I thought the needle might hurt. Call me too sensetive but to a child some things are just that way.

No, you are not at all too sensitive.  I really think it's Parenting 101 to not unnecessarily frighten your child.  Enough happens (as in your case with your grandma) that requires parents to step in, explain, and calm down their children.  There's just really no need to approach a calm child, over-dramatize an upcoming situation, and then show scary photos.  One of a child's biggest fears is losing a parent.  They need the security of knowing that everything will be fine and they will be taken care of.   "Mommy is going to be jumping through a big scary fire, and here are some dramatic frightening photos of what it will look like" is the height of stupidity with children of all ages, but especially when they're that young.

I take it back.  It's not Parenting 101.  It's Intelligent Human Being 101.  Any idiot would know not to do that to a small child.  I don't think they have one complete functioning brain between the two of them

[bravofan27]

11 hours ago, HunterHunted said:

Watching Vicki whine, complain, bully, and berate her employees while they have to sit there and take it isn't interesting. When she films with her kids it's pretty clear that they love her, but they can't stand being around her. Those scenes can be interesting to watch.

Vicki, to her credit, is a good provider and her kids are well taken care of. 

One thing that's weird is they are talking MORE about the cancer scam this season than last season. I had to actually think about what season that happened with Brooks. If I remember correctly, Vicki was with everyone hanging out in Ireland and doing the sand racing thing with everyone as well, and they were all worried that no one was visiting her in the hospital. It seems like there is more than going as far as the Vicki hate. Is it just the gay rumor and husband beating rumor? I mean, that's bad, but man, those ladies are taking the hate a little far. 

[biakbiak]

41 minutes ago, bravofan27 said:

It seems like there is more than going as far as the Vicki hate. Is it just the gay rumor and husband beating rumor? I mean, that's bad, but man, those ladies are taking the hate a little far. 

When it comes right on the heels of the cancer lies, I don't think it's too far.

[HunterHunted]

On 9/5/2017 at 0:37 AM, bravofan27 said:

Vicki, to her credit, is a good provider and her kids are well taken care of. 

One thing that's weird is they are talking MORE about the cancer scam this season than last season. I had to actually think about what season that happened with Brooks. If I remember correctly, Vicki was with everyone hanging out in Ireland and doing the sand racing thing with everyone as well, and they were all worried that no one was visiting her in the hospital. It seems like there is more than going as far as the Vicki hate. Is it just the gay rumor and husband beating rumor? I mean, that's bad, but man, those ladies are taking the hate a little far. 

It's actually bifurcated. Vicki keeps bringing up the cancer scam. I suspect to deflect from her reprehensible malicious rumor mongering. For whatever reason, Vicki seems to think she did nothing wrong by spreading those rumors. Shannon and Tamra maintain that their current anger with Vicki is her about spreading rumors and lies.

Vicki is still angry that Brooks broke up with her because they uncovered his lies and her complicity. As she has said this season, she wants to punish them for not being her friend. I think Tamra is a little bothered by the Eddie's gay rumor, but is mostly over Vicki. I think Shannon is really upset about the domestic violence rumor because there is enough in her marriage to suggest that the rumor might be true. And this is shit that could really follow them for the rest of their lives.

For example, Mark Wahlberg wanted to get liquor licenses for his families chain of restaurants, Wahlburgers. His convictions for a series of racially motivated crimes as a juvenile might bar him from getting that license. He tried to get a pardon. The backlash was overwhelming. This was something he did 30 years ago and his ass actually did this stuff.

Vicki said that David beats Shannon and she has proof. This rumor might cost him business. It might cost them friends. It might their children friends. I sure as shit would never let my kids hang out in the Beador house if I thought David might beat the shit out of Shannon. The rumor is monstrous if not true. It's monstrous if true that Vicki knew this and didn't even attempt to do shit about it. On New York, the women are giving weepy pleas to LuAnn to not marry Tom because he's hanging out with and kissing his exes. I can't even imagine what they'd do if he was hitting her.

Vicki alleges that she still cares about Shannon and wants to be friends with her. Either way she's a complete asshole. She's an asshole if it's a lie and she is an asshole if it's true. I don't think there is too far with a rumor like that.

Edited September 6, 2017 by HunterHunted

[WireWrap]

6 hours ago, bravofan27 said:

Vicki, to her credit, is a good provider and her kids are well taken care of. 

One thing that's weird is they are talking MORE about the cancer scam this season than last season. I had to actually think about what season that happened with Brooks. If I remember correctly, Vicki was with everyone hanging out in Ireland and doing the sand racing thing with everyone as well, and they were all worried that no one was visiting her in the hospital. It seems like there is more than going as far as the Vicki hate. Is it just the gay rumor and husband beating rumor? I mean, that's bad, but man, those ladies are taking the hate a little far. 

Tamra's/Shannon's main beef with Vicki is that Vicki is spreading nasty rumors about their husbands on top of being complicit and unapologetic about the cancer scam. It is Vicki that keeps bring up the cancer scam, not Tamra or Shannon.

5 hours ago, HunterHunted said:

It's actually bifurcated. Vicki keeps bringing up the cancer scam. I suspect to deflect from her reprehensible malicious rumor mongering. For whatever reason, Vicki seems to think she did nothing wrong by spreading those rumors. Shannon and Tamra maintain that their current anger with Vicki is her about spreading rumors and lies.

Vicki is still angry that Brooks broke up with her because they uncovered his lies and her complicity. As she has said this season, she wants to punish them for not being her friend. I think Tamra is a little bothered by the Eddie's gay rumor, but is mostly over Vicki. I think Shannon is really upset about the domestic violence rumor because there is enough in her marriage to suggest that the rumor might be true. And this is shit that could really follow them for the rest of their lives.

For example, Mark Wahlberg wanted to get liquor licenses for his families chain of restaurants, Wahlburgers. His convictions for a series of racially motivated crimes as a juvenile might bar him from getting that license. He tried to get a pardon. The backlash was overwhelming. This was something he did 30 years ago and his ass actually did thisbstuff.

Vicki said that David beats Shannon and she has proof. This rumor might cost him business. It might cost them friends. It might their children friends. I sure as shit would never let my kids hang out in the Beador house if I thought David might beat the shit out of Shannon. The rumor is monstrous if not true. It's monstrous if true that Vicki knew this and didn't even attempt to do shit about it. On New York, the women are giving weepy pleas to LuAnn to not marry Tom because he's hanging out with and kissing his exes. I can't even imagine what they'd do if he was hitting her.

Vicki alleges that she still cares about Shannon and wants to be friends with her. Either way she's a complete asshole. She's an asshole if it's a lie and she is an asshole if it's true. I don't think there is too far with a rumor like that.

Vicki now claims she no longer has said proof (in her current blog) and hasn't had it for 3 years! She is covering her ass because people are telling her on SM to show it and she can't because she never had any to begin with (at least according to Vicki's friend that was present when this phone call took place, who also never mentioned texts or pictures). Vicki is trying to make Eddie and David look as vile as Brooks and she is trying to destroy their marriages because she places full blame on T/S for Brooks dumping her. 

http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-orange-county/season-12/blogs/vicki-gunvalson/vicki-gunvalson-thank-you-kelly

[bagger]

3 hours ago, WireWrap said:

Tamra's/Shannon's main beef with Vicki is that Vicki is spreading nasty rumors about their husbands on top of being complicit and unapologetic about the cancer scam. It is Vicki that keeps bring up the cancer scam, not Tamra or Shannon.

Vicki now claims she no longer has said proof (in her current blog) and hasn't had it for 3 years! She is covering her ass because people are telling her on SM to show it and she can't because she never had any to begin with (at least according to Vicki's friend that was present when this phone call took place, who also never mentioned texts or pictures). Vicki is trying to make Eddie and David look as vile as Brooks and she is trying to destroy their marriages because she places full blame on T/S for Brooks dumping her. 

http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-orange-county/season-12/blogs/vicki-gunvalson/vicki-gunvalson-thank-you-kelly

So vicki is now the arbiter of what a good Christian woman should and shouldn't do? She needs some serious therapy.

[SCS]

8 hours ago, WireWrap said:

 

Vicki now claims she no longer has said proof (in her current blog) and hasn't had it for 3 years! She is covering her ass because people are telling her on SM to show it and she can't because she never had any to begin with (at least according to Vicki's friend that was present when this phone call took place, who also never mentioned texts or pictures). 

 

 

We really won't know if she did or didn't have pix unless her years-old data is retrieved  by her carrier and I believe her about the old phone not saving and transferring the texts and images since the same thing happens with my phone -- if I don't FW them before upgrading or before my current phone dies, I lose a lot of stuff. As for the friend: her not mentioning texts or pix is hardly proof none existed -- it's simply proof she never saw or learned of them.

[WireWrap]

13 minutes ago, SCS said:

 

We really won't know if she did or didn't have pix unless her years-old data is retrieved  by her carrier and I believe her about the old phone not saving and transferring the texts and images since the same thing happens with my phone -- if I don't FW them before upgrading or before my current phone dies, I lose a lot of stuff. As for the friend: her not mentioning texts or pix is hardly proof none existed -- it's simply proof she never saw or learned of them.

According to her friend, she was with Vicki when Vicki got the phone calls from Shannon, she (the friend) suggested they, V/B/the friend/her husband, go get Shannon out of the house away from David, too which Vicki said No, the friend said she then suggested calling the police and once again, Vicki said no. What "friend" that believes her friend is being beat does nothing, nothing at all when that friend calls for help as Vicki claims Shannon did? Vicki is lying and she has claimed she had proof for 2 years now but has only been called out to show the proof this season and now all of a sudden she no longer has it, I call BS on her and say that she is once again lying through her teeth. Remember this is the same woman that said she was going to hurt/punish Tamra/Shannon because Brooks broke up with her and she puts total blame on them.

[SCS]

1 hour ago, WireWrap said:

According to her friend, she was with Vicki when Vicki got the phone calls from Shannon, she (the friend) suggested they, V/B/the friend/her husband, go get Shannon out of the house away from David, too which Vicki said No, the friend said she then suggested calling the police and once again, Vicki said no. 

Maybe the "friend" will step forward? That would be a ratings rocket.

 

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What "friend" that believes her friend is being beat does nothing, nothing at all when that friend calls for help as Vicki claims Shannon did? 

 

It wouldn't be my approach but then my life is empty of the drama these babes experience daily.

 

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Vicki is lying and she has claimed she had proof for 2 years now but has only been called out to show the proof this season and now all of a sudden she no longer has it, I call BS on her and say that she is once again lying through her teeth.

Maybe. But losing texts and images is a very real thing. All I'm saying is it could be a legit statement. And if it is: Vix would be wise to cough up the $$ and get her data retrieved to show the texts, validate herself and end this incredibly tedious story line.

 

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Remember this is the same woman that said she was going to hurt/punish Tamra/Shannon because Brooks broke up with her and she puts total blame on them.

 

LOL how could I forget?

[Pachengala]

On 9/1/2017 at 0:56 PM, ButterQueen said:

I believe Shannon wants the marriage to work, but if David doesn't, he needs to move the hell on and let Shannon heal.  My heart truly breaks for her.  

This! I don't agree with it, but I understand why Shannon's still in it. The big mystery for me is, why is David? He's clearly miserable and has one foot out the door; what's making him stay? I don't get it.

 

On 9/1/2017 at 2:12 PM, film noire said:

Do you think she wants the marriage to work because she doesn't want to be alone, or because she truly loves him? 

I think it's both of these PLUS she doesn't want to give anyone the satisfaction of saying I told you so. I think her pride is a HUGE factor in her staying. Huge. As an aside, I'm generally against anyone staying in a relationship where one party has cheated. Basically you've given your permission for that person to treat you however s/he likes, because you'll just take it. You've traded away your agency. Shannon's learning that now.  Just my opinion! Don't @ me! 

 

19 hours ago, RedheadZombie said:

As a nurse, one of things I'd always feared was an uncontrollable nose bleed.  I took care of these patients a lot, and next to kidney stones (which I've also had), they always seemed the most miserable - Pale, diaphoretic, vomiting the blood that's drained down their throat, and the pain of having one or two large balloons inserted and inflated into their nostrils.

I'm a bleeder, and I have been since I was a child. I've had cauterizations, balloons, all of it. I so appreciate you saying this, because they are the most miserable things I've ever experienced, and I've experienced 36 hours of natural childbirth*. Uncontrollable, systemic nosebleeds make you wish for the seeet relief of death. 

*Interestingly, pregnancy and childbirth seem to have 'cured' my lifelong nosebleeds, so thank you, baby! 

[RedheadZombie]

34 minutes ago, Pachengala said:

This! I don't agree with it, but I understand why Shannon's still in it. The big mystery for me is, why is David? He's clearly miserable and has one foot out the door; what's making him stay? I don't get it.

 

I think it's both of these PLUS she doesn't want to give anyone the satisfaction of saying I told you so. I think her pride is a HUGE factor in her staying. Huge. As an aside, I'm generally against anyone staying in a relationship where one party has cheated. Basically you've given your permission for that person to treat you however s/he likes, because you'll just take it. You've traded away your agency. Shannon's learning that now.  Just my opinion! Don't @ me! 

 

I'm a bleeder, and I have been since I was a child. I've had cauterizations, balloons, all of it. I so appreciate you saying this, because they are the most miserable things I've ever experienced, and I've experienced 36 hours of natural childbirth*. Uncontrollable, systemic nosebleeds make you wish for the seeet relief of death. 

*Interestingly, pregnancy and childbirth seem to have 'cured' my lifelong nosebleeds, so thank you, baby! 

1. I think David stays because he's a passive-aggressive beta male, and he needs a strong jump off before he will leave. 
2. I'm one who still really loves Shannon.  I realize she's difficult, and I see why others don't like her.  Heavy metal rocker Shannon is my jam, and I would love to be her BFF.  When I think of her marriage, what I always remember is the picture of their wedding, where David has picked up Shannon.  The happiness is so genuine and real.  And I take her at her word that she doesn't want her children to grow up with divorced parents.  I also happen to believe that David gaslighted Shannon with his first affair, and while others think he's just a beaten down victim, I see a man who demeans her in the privacy of their bedroom, and continues to make her feel crazy for believing in her instincts that he's a low-down dirty dog.  Having said that, there was genuine emotion at the vow renewal, and I think he wishes he still loved her like earlier in their marriage.  But I can't respect him.  He's teaching his daughters that this is how their partners should treat them, just as Shannon is teaching them that this is the type of behavior that should be tolerated.  Luckily, their girls seem to be opinionated and head strong.
3. You're welcome!  I've always felt deep empathy for my nose bleeders.  Ironically, my other fear was breaking my shoulder, and I did that, too!

[WireWrap]

1 hour ago, SCS said:

Maybe the "friend" will step forward? That would be a ratings rocket.

 

 

It wouldn't be my approach but then my life is empty of the drama these babes experience daily.

 

Maybe. But losing texts and images is a very real thing. All I'm saying is it could be a legit statement. And if it is: Vix would be wise to cough up the $$ and get her data retrieved to show the texts, validate herself and end this incredibly tedious story line.

 

 

LOL how could I forget?

Well, the friend did step forward when this all happened but did so on the now closed SH site. What this friend claimed aligned more with Shannon's story than Vicki's even though she really was trying to defend Vicki. 

I had a friend in similar position, getting abused when they called me, and I did both, called the police and went to their house to assist my friend after the police removed her (drunk) husband, oh and my husband went with me.

She even says in her current blog that she isn't going to have this "proof" recovered ever, which furthers my opinion that it never existed to begin with.

Vicki, herself, will never allow us to forget that she blames Tamra/Shannon for Brooks breaking up with her! It didn't matter that he got physical with her (according to Briana he hit her), told her SIL (with anger issues) to beat his wife/her daughter and pulled a cancer scam (with her willing helping) on everyone, HE BROKE UP WITH HER, Not the other way around. Vicki is a liar and loves to play the victim of all victims. Sick!

[Mu Shu]

On 9/1/2017 at 10:06 PM, Duke2801 said:

Shannon is not morbidly obese. 

I didn't specifically say Shannon was.  I was relating my experience with a morbidly obese partner, and how his refusal to get off the couch eventually caused a split, and how I could relate to David.  It's hard to sit at home every damn day watching someone who claimed to be athletic blow up and refuse to do anything about it.  I decided to not spend the rest of my life as a potato because my then partner was deceitful about his activity level.  He claimed he normally worked out 5 days a week and gained 60 lbs due to surgery.  Well, 60 turned into 100.   He wants to be obese and make excuses, fine.  I want to live an active life with an active partner.  

Sorry, but I'm not a martyr who will grit it out with a miserable person who didn't have two shits to give about his health. 

[SCS]

3 hours ago, WireWrap said:

Well, the friend did step forward when this all happened but did so on the now closed SH site.

Gosh darn, SH, ruining Vix'x alibi!

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I had a friend in similar position, getting abused when they called me, and I did both, called the police and went to their house to assist my friend after the police removed her (drunk) husband, oh and my husband went with me.

You are a good good friend.

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She even says in her current blog that she isn't going to have this "proof" recovered ever, which furthers my opinion that it never existed to begin with.

 She does say that but it doesn't mean it never existed. Maybe Bravo will cough up the $$$ to obtain the old data and pay her a bonus for an on-camera reveal.

 

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 Brooks 

 

--was a dick. Hearing them all discuss him these many moons after his departure is incredibly boring.

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[biakbiak]

1 hour ago, SCS said:

She does say that but it doesn't mean it never existed. Maybe Bravo will cough up the $$$ to obtain the old data and pay her a bonus for an on-camera reveal.

 

I don't believe it ever existed because she has been on this show long enough to save that stuff and she has repeatedly continued to say that she had this info but wasn't going to show it and it's only when people have said she needs to release it that she doesn't have it. She is a fucking proven liar. It's Brooks tabbed cancer notebook all over again.

[zulualpha]

5 hours ago, WireWrap said:

According to her friend, she was with Vicki when Vicki got the phone calls from Shannon, she (the friend) suggested they, V/B/the friend/her husband, go get Shannon out of the house away from David, too which Vicki said No, the friend said she then suggested calling the police and once again, Vicki said no. What "friend" that believes her friend is being beat does nothing, nothing at all when that friend calls for help as Vicki claims Shannon did? Vicki is lying and she has claimed she had proof for 2 years now but has only been called out to show the proof this season and now all of a sudden she no longer has it, I call BS on her and say that she is once again lying through her teeth. Remember this is the same woman that said she was going to hurt/punish Tamra/Shannon because Brooks broke up with her and she puts total blame on them.

But iirc when we were discussing David attacking Shannon on the board last year it came out that David was in fact charged with assault and battery of a spouse. So I guess Shannon is angry that Vicki is describing the attack as David beating the shit out of her rather then roughing her up a bit? Hard to be mad at Vicki if the story is essentially true.

[WireWrap]

17 minutes ago, zulualpha said:

But iirc when we were discussing David attacking Shannon on the board last year it came out that David was in fact charged with assault and battery of a spouse. So I guess Shannon is angry that Vicki is describing the attack as David beating the shit out of her rather then roughing her up a bit? Hard to be mad at Vicki if the story is essentially true.

No, these are 2 separate incidents. The one you are talking about, where he pled guilty of DV was years ago, when they first got married and well before they joined the show or knew Vicki and for the record, Shannon has said that David didn't "hit" her then either. The "incident" Vicki is talking about happened right after Shannon's first season, right after the reunion filmed when Shannon first found out David cheated on her. Shannon/David went out to dinner, she got blasted and started a big fight with him, he locked himself in 1 of their daughters bedrooms and refused to let her in. She tried to break the door down (like they do on cop shows) and hurt herself, called Vicki crying that she was afraid that David would leave her, which Vicki turned into her being afraid he would hit her. It can't be said enough, Vicki is pond scum.

[SCS]

4 hours ago, biakbiak said:

I don't believe it ever existed because she has been on this show long enough to save that stuff and she has repeatedly continued to say that she had this info but wasn't going to show it and it's only when people have said she needs to release it that she doesn't have it. 

Don't know but I do wish it were no longer such an integral part of the show because *snore*.

 

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Brooks

 

--was a dick. O, to never hear his name again. He's become an element of past-seasons HWs lore that, unfortunately, gets trotted out too frequently, rather like Yolanda's affinity for lemon cleanses and Joanna's famously pungent privates.

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[sarivon]

On 9/5/2017 at 0:37 AM, bravofan27 said:

Vicki, to her credit, is a good provider and her kids are well taken care of. 

One thing that's weird is they are talking MORE about the cancer scam this season than last season. I had to actually think about what season that happened with Brooks. If I remember correctly, Vicki was with everyone hanging out in Ireland and doing the sand racing thing with everyone as well, and they were all worried that no one was visiting her in the hospital. It seems like there is more than going as far as the Vicki hate. Is it just the gay rumor and husband beating rumor? I mean, that's bad, but man, those ladies are taking the hate a little far. 

ITA. Too much. Makes for dull viewing.

On 9/5/2017 at 1:19 AM, biakbiak said:

When it comes right on the heels of the cancer lies, I don't think it's too far.

If it's leading to viewers shutting off the show 15 minutes into the episode it's too far.

[biakbiak]

1 hour ago, sarivon said:

ITA. Too much. Makes for dull viewing.

If it's leading to viewers shutting off the show 15 minutes into the episode it's too far.

Vicki, Peggy and Lydia make me FFwd, Shannon and Tamra and the refusal to film with Vicki make me watch for them. 

[WireWrap]

2 hours ago, sarivon said:

ITA. Too much. Makes for dull viewing.

If it's leading to viewers shutting off the show 15 minutes into the episode it's too far.

It's not Tamra's/Shannon's fault that Vicki doubled down on them, it is Vicki's fault. Vicki went along with a cancer scam/lie, tried to pull them (the rest of the cast) into their lie/scam, then decided to punish them because Brooks dropped her after they got caught in the cancer lie. She then spread vicious gossip/lies with Kelly, wound Kelly up and watched her repeat these things on camera, again, all as payback because of Brooks. Follow the lies back and you will find Vicki at the very beginning, not Tamra, Shannon, Heather, Meghan or even Kelly.......just Vicki. So, blame Vicki for this going on to long and causing viewers to change the channel on their TVs. 

[Former Nun]

On 8/31/2017 at 2:34 PM, Mu Shu said:

I'M DONE!!!  No, really.  I'm done with her.

And...MuShu, what's with her new "boyfriend"?   He's an attractive well-dressed man.  Seems financially stable.  Either BRAVO has paid him very well to play this part (put up with Vicki) or he has some serious issues.  I know he yearns for the political life; is RHOC really the way to be successful?  Anyone? “Bueller?… Bueller?… Bueller?”

[ladle]

The tension in Shannon's marriage, while "real," is not at all fun or entertaining television.  I'd honestly rather watch Owen pee into a pull-up. 

[Anne Thrax]

Wait -- did Peggy really say she doesn't smile because it causes wrinkles??  Shallow much?

[Anne Thrax]

Lydia and her mom?  Creepy close.  And her little boy's a pussy.  In the home where I was raised by a single father, the only girl with a brother and a same-aged uncle, the phrase "mommy are you going to die in the fire?" would be mockingly aped repeatedly, and he'd be ridiculed with it until he was at least 35.

Eddie cracks me up with his "I'm the Mexican here" when Tamra was vacuuming the rug.  He's a keeper.(sigh).

It seems like Dickran can hardly utter a sentence that doesn't contain a boast regarding large sums of money.  And if Peggy says another stupid thing like, "We Armenians believe it's essential to breathe and eat", I'm gonna scream!  Girl, please.  As if Armenians are the apex of civilization for christ fucking sake because they think education is important, and that Armenian fathers are protective of their daughters.  This bitch is seriously getting on my nerves with her superiority complex. (AND her resting bitch face.)  

Meghan, honey, paying over $1,700 on a cheap-junk crib is ridiculous because 1) it isn't worth the price, and 2) the baby won't sleep any better in another room, and neither will you because  you'll still be awakened 2 to 3 times a night, but now you'll have farther to go to get to  her.  How about you grow up and just accept the fact that your days of sleeping whenever and however long you want to are over for the time being.   Think of what you'd be going through with the twins you wanted!

Holy shit -- I never laughed out loud at my favorite housewives like I did during the "drag" sequences.  I almost didn't recognize Tamra when I saw her enter Shannon's house and call Shannon her "little trailer park bitch".   Hahahahahha!  Priceless.  What a sense of humor.  Totally cool idea, and they were all so funny.

Is Vicki squealing "WHAT?" supposed to be so cute/funny that it bears repeating multiple times??  (Gag)

Edited September 11, 2017 by Anne Thrax

[sarivon]

On 9/6/2017 at 2:37 PM, WireWrap said:

It's not Tamra's/Shannon's fault that Vicki doubled down on them, it is Vicki's fault. Vicki went along with a cancer scam/lie, tried to pull them (the rest of the cast) into their lie/scam, then decided to punish them because Brooks dropped her after they got caught in the cancer lie. She then spread vicious gossip/lies with Kelly, wound Kelly up and watched her repeat these things on camera, again, all as payback because of Brooks. Follow the lies back and you will find Vicki at the very beginning, not Tamra, Shannon, Heather, Meghan or even Kelly.......just Vicki. So, blame Vicki for this going on to long and causing viewers to change the channel on their TVs. 

No but you are welcome to blame Vicki. I blame Tamra because she is scum. Like this:

Vicki = scam

Tamra = scum

For me the choice is easy.

[WireWrap]

7 minutes ago, sarivon said:

No but you are welcome to blame Vicki. I blame Tamra because she is scum. Like this:

Vicki = scam

Tamra = scum

For me the choice is easy.

Yes, we all see things differently but Vicki took the lead in scum by trying to pull 2 different cancer scams. Now if Tamra tried to get a HW naked drunk a second time, she would take back that title but it seems she at least learned not to pull that vile game a second time, Vicki on the other hand, did try a second $$$$$ scam on cancer victims/families pain. 

[sarivon]

27 minutes ago, WireWrap said:

Yes, we all see things differently but Vicki took the lead in scum by trying to pull 2 different cancer scams. Now if Tamra tried to get a HW naked drunk a second time, she would take back that title but it seems she at least learned not to pull that vile game a second time, Vicki on the other hand, did try a second $$$$$ scam on cancer victims/families pain. 

IMO Tamra will always wear the Queen Scum Crown. mmv

[gundysgirl]

6 hours ago, sarivon said:

IMO Tamra will always wear the Queen Scum Crown. mmv

I think in the history of HW's, she has probably had the most horrendous moments. She is hard to root for. But there has been growth with her. She seems to have slowly evolved into something different. Far from perfect, but different and better. Vicki, not so much. 

[misschung]

Am I the only one who was wondering why Briana wasn't teaching her children to swim instead of sitting on the sidelines? 

I think that David's new obsession with exercising is his new mistress.  I also had to laugh when Shannon said that he did his first race with Eddie right before their vow renewal and has been obsessed ever since.  Maybe Eddie and David have more in common than they think...

I do agree that all couples don't share all activities.  However, training constantly can put a strain on a marriage.  I remember when my cousin had a newborn at home and her husband was training for his third iron man.  They never saw him.  He's also an attorney and works constantly, and any free time he had was spent running, biking, or lifting.  

What a bunch of trainwrecks these women are.  My life certainly isn't perfect but I can honestly say I wouldn't trade places with any of these women for all the money in the world... 

Also - Shannon, as a chick who has had weight fluctuations - do NOT try to squeeze yourself into something you wore when you were 30 lbs lighter.  Especially if it involves sequins.. 

[Baltimore Betty]

3 minutes ago, misschung said:

Am I the only one who was wondering why Briana wasn't teaching her children to swim instead of sitting on the sidelines? 

That would mean Briana would have to get up off her ass.  She is a human sloth.

[misschung]

Re: Shannon's nosebleed.  I remember seeing this IG post and it made me laugh.  Something about Shannon - she's like Eeyore. 

I suffered from severe nosebleeds all my life, until I had the proper treatment about 5 years ago.  I guess I'm just used to the severity of this so it seemed to me like she was overreacting as usual. 

Edited September 29, 2017 by misschung

[RedheadZombie]

3 hours ago, misschung said:

Am I the only one who was wondering why Briana wasn't teaching her children to swim instead of sitting on the sidelines? 

I think that David's new obsession with exercising is his new mistress.  I also had to laugh when Shannon said that he did his first race with Eddie right before their vow renewal and has been obsessed ever since.  Maybe Eddie and David have more in common than they think...

I do agree that all couples don't share all activities.  However, training constantly can put a strain on a marriage.  I remember when my cousin had a newborn at home and her husband was training for his third iron man.  They never saw him.  He's also an attorney and works constantly, and any free time he had was spent running, biking, or lifting.  

What a bunch of trainwrecks these women are.  My life certainly isn't perfect but I can honestly say I wouldn't trade places with any of these women for all the money in the world... 

Also - Shannon, as a chick who has had weight fluctuations - do NOT try to squeeze yourself into something you wore when you were 30 lbs lighter.  Especially if it involves sequins.. 

A professional has the best ability to teach, and children are often more open to a teacher rather than their parents.  Everyone I know who swims learned from swimming lessons.  Although through the local pool - so Brianna's kids are lucky to get one on one attention.  I suspect those people who have to manually plug their nose when they enter water never received swimming lessons. 

[biakbiak]

13 hours ago, misschung said:

suffered from severe nosebleeds all my life, until I had the proper treatment about 5 years ago.  I guess I'm just used to the severity of this so it seemed to me like she was overreacting as usual. 

She was also bleeding from her eyes, I don't imagine I would ever stop talking about it if I was bleeding from the eye!

[misschung]

6 hours ago, biakbiak said:

She was also bleeding from her eyes, I don't imagine I would ever stop talking about it if I was bleeding from the eye!

Been there, done that.  I used to have nosebleeds that were so bad that I resorted to using tampons (yes, tampons) to pack my nose.  Hours long, blood running down the back of my throat, blood coming out of my eye if I tried to blow my nose, etc. 

I was young when this used to happen so I think I must have gotten used to it.  Don't get me wrong, it's nothing to shake a stick at but when I read that, coming from Shannon, I just had to say, "Of COURSE this happened to her."  And she complains about Vicki being attention-seeking? 

[zoeysmom]

23 minutes ago, misschung said:

Been there, done that.  I used to have nosebleeds that were so bad that I resorted to using tampons (yes, tampons) to pack my nose.  Hours long, blood running down the back of my throat, blood coming out of my eye if I tried to blow my nose, etc. 

I was young when this used to happen so I think I must have gotten used to it.  Don't get me wrong, it's nothing to shake a stick at but when I read that, coming from Shannon, I just had to say, "Of COURSE this happened to her."  And she complains about Vicki being attention-seeking? 

I always got the impression what made the eye/nosebleed topical is the fact she was with her daughter at the DMV and without missing a beat, she managed to get to the hospital and have someone cover for her at the DMV so her daughter could get her license-something her daughter was obviously looking forward to obtaining.