RelationShep - General Discussion

[yourmomiseasy]

True, but he's probably right 99.99% of the time.

[Babyfoot]

I watched but found myself fast forwarding through the painfully contrived “dates.” I much preferred his chats with friends and parents, especially with Cameran, and even with Landon. I like Shep but I don’t believe for a single minute that he will, or even wants, to find love via the torturous “Bachelor “ franchise method. I think he’s doing it as a lark. That they’re paying him to “date” is the cherry on his Bravo sundae. I’ll continue to watch but will also continue to fast forward through the “dates.”

Anyone else want to see more of Fran and Rip Rose’s Hilton Head home? My Bravo viewing pleasure increases with a generous dollop of house porn.

[Sun-Bun]

2 hours ago, Babyfoot said:

Anyone else want to see more of Fran and Rip Rose’s Hilton Head home? My Bravo viewing pleasure increases with a generous dollop of house porn.

One of my favorite things about "Southern Charm" is the particular old South wealth displayed with their real estate porn---it ain't gaudy McMansions or sterile condos, but old historic homes filled with elegant furniture and posh antiques.

So yes, the minute I saw The Rose's upscale Row home, I was also dying to see more. Wish they had a home tour on the Bravo website! He and his family definitely project that effortless, classic "old money" style in their various home furnishings and otherwise.

Edited December 11, 2017 by Sun-Bun

[RedHawk]

I was half-watching this episode and felt like Shep treated the girl badly when he called Landon to join the date. He wants a girl with a brain and she was exhibiting one in trying to make conversation with him. I think it was edited to make her look like she talked non-stop, or maybe she was nervous and talked too much, but otherwise, why was he so turned off?  If he had bothered to listen and participate in what he always says he wants, a meaningful conversation, he might have found her to be a good match. But that seems to be Shep's problem, he has these ideas (ideals?) of what he wants but isn't mature enough to actually spend time dating a woman to find out who she is and if they are compatible. I think he's always ready to reject first because he's completely scared of rejection. I could understand it more if he was 10 years younger, but at 36/37 it's just unappealingly immature. Plus, the drinking problem...

[PrincessPurrsALot]

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Shep’s combing the Lone Star State for someone to date! He bites off more than he can chew when he kicks things off on an unusual double date. As things start to heat up at the hot springs on another date, Shep uses his escape tactics to reach the beautiful brunette. As his final days of love connecting are coming to a close, a health scare throws his New York State of mind back into reality.

[Neurochick]

Did Shep actually say, “Latin fire-ness?”

Classy Shep.  But I laughed when the Brazillian woman said, “you’re dirty, you don’t work, you have no ambition.”  Truth hurts.  Surprised she didn’t tell him he stinks too.

Edited December 13, 2017 by Neurochick

[hoosier80]

Wow.  I'd have to give Shep a hard pass.  He's still a little boy.  Stop rubbing your face with your hands, very insecure.  He's used to being a big fish in a little pond.  Take him out of that pond, and no game at all.

So he's bringing all those women back to live in one house.  Yeah, this isn't a serious attempt to find that special someone, just more tv time.  Good for the one girl to say nah, I'm passing on it.    Bachelor Lite.  Nah.

[Sun-Bun]

Seriously, his educated himbo hayseed in the big city act is getting beyond tiring. I really enjoy him overall on SC, but this is a bit more of Shep and his goofy dating hijinks than I can handle...he's coming off sadder and more pathetically hopeless with every new episode. It's easy to see why he doesn't do relationships---he's simply too immature and easily bored and it's easier just to flirt and be the eternal frat boy with any cute dumb gal who falls for his usual bar star schtick.

Reminds me of the time Whitney took Shep to that party in LA and Whitney rather astutely noted just how pathetic Shep's game was with the women there. He definitely can't handle competing for the affections of worldly women in the big city...nice to see that the one gal had no intention of moving forward with him and politely declined. Although it was likely just a convenient plot device too, so who really knows.

I'm beginning to wonder if Shep has a tiny dick. Lord knows his drunken overnight sexcapades don't seem to paint him out as a great lover, but there's gotta be more to this story beyond just being a shallow goofball playboy from a rich family who simply refuses to settle down, right?

[Thumper]

So his great (great?) grandfather was an NCAA champ in golf?  (If I heard correctly). And that's important to him.  Please.

[ScoobieDoobs]

I can't believe I watched this, considering how much I can't stand Shep on SC.  But color me surprised -- it is kinda/sorta watchable.  Mostly cuz Shep is OK with being called out on who he is or being rejected -- or is he? 

Man, that Brazilian woman got his number right off.  That moment alone (for me) was worth watching this.  It was awesome.  And Shep's reaction was hilarious.  He looked really angry & pissed.  Poor widdle Sheppie.  I couldn't stopped laughing.

And then there was that painful call from the beautiful woman in LA who clearly had no interest in him -- and he clearly did not like being rejected.

So where is this show going?  Will more women tell Sheppie-poo that he's an ageing, unambitious, sloppy loser?  I hope so.  Bring me that, show & I'll keep watching!

Edited December 12, 2017 by ScoobieDoobs

[ivygirl]

Geez, this is painful. 

Why does it look like Shep just woke up in every scene? Never mind, he probably did. It’s just kid of offensive to me that he’s picking these women apart for perfection and, himself, showing up as though he just rolled out of bed and “um, uh, um”-ing his way through his “conversations.”

Jax from Vanderpump Rules and Shep should get together on a show where they pretend to want to date seriously but continue to act like immature 17 year olds just let out of an all boy’s school.

[rideashire]

13 minutes ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

Man, that Brazilian woman got his number right off.  That moment alone (for me) was worth watching this.  It was awesome.  And Shep's reaction was hilarious.  He looked really angry & pissed.  Poor widdle Sheppie.  I couldn't stopped laughing.

She really did get his number. The sad thing is there's nothing wrong with investing in real estate and owning a few bars but the way Shep comes off makes it very clear that he does these things as side projects and really doesn't have an ounce of ambition. It's kinda pathetic actually. Can't blame it all on having money either because plenty of people born with it aren't as lazy as Shep. It's not an attractive look and maybe he's realizing that not every woman is going to find it charming.

Edited December 12, 2017 by rideashire

[Lizzing]

I'm not committing any of the dates' names to memory, but if I were the Brazilian gal I'd either have gone in harder on Shep and his malingering mediocrity, or left before the date started.  If he can't be bothered to dress better than a common frat boy on laundry day, he's not worth the paltry Bravo cash for appearing on the show.

The blonde girl in Austin was giving me strong "young Lauri Waring (pre Peterson)" vibes.  She had total OC hair, circa '05, but at least she can read and didn't mix the Dr. Pepper and wine.

[Caseysgirl]

Oh, Shep! You aren't really as special as this show makes you think you are. Several of those women have commented on how dirty he is and you can really see it.  He also seems to think that he's quite witty and he isn't.  He was so intimidated by the Brazilian woman who completely one upped him, that he dismissed her outright. I'm loving that some of the women are turning him down. I'd almost feel sorry for him if he didn't say ridiculous things like, "I want someone who could dress appropriately for the country club". Why would any "quality women" ( those who don't just want to be on television) go live in a mansion in Charleston and compete for him.  He's not that big of a prize.

[bosawks]

7 hours ago, Thumper said:

So his great (great?) grandfather was an NCAA champ in golf?  (If I heard correctly). And that's important to him.  Please.

If my great or great-great was an NCAA champion in anything I would think it was pretty cool.

But important, no, not important......

[Sun-Bun]

5 hours ago, ivygirl said:

Why does it look like Shep just woke up in every scene? Never mind, he probably did.

Probably because he's stoned most of the time---the dude is a known pothead and it becomes more obvious every season his giggly unkempt ass wakes and bakes on television.

[yourmomiseasy]

10 hours ago, Thumper said:

So his great (great?) grandfather was an NCAA champ in golf?  (If I heard correctly). And that's important to him.  Please.

I can believe that having someone that fits in at the country club is important to him and golf is just an excuse.

[ScoobieDoobs]

The part about the producer was a waste of time.  Why the fuck should we care about a producer & her problems?  I didn't.  Quickly tuned out when Sheppie blathered on about this shit.

I was kinda lost when Sheppie was all of a sudden in Brooklyn, babbling to yet another bored-looking 20-something chick with swingy long hair.  This parade of similar-looking chicks is starting to get very repetitive.  Would Sheppie ever date a larger-sized woman -- or even one who doesn't have swingy long hair?  Yeah, guess that's as out of the question as him EVER going for someone non-white, as we saw with his idiotic rejection of the woman Landon supposedly set him up with.  I remain extremely unimpressed by Sheppie.

I just don't get where this show is going -- or how long it can go on.  So if Sheppie actually does find someone he likes, who wants to date him (difficult as that is to believe), isn't that the end of this show?  So for the show to go on, Sheppie will have to pretty much NEVER be able to hook up with anyone?  OK then.

Gotta say, when Sheppie is taking digs on women, the show loses me.  OK, maybe those 2 women from Texas looked like strippers, but Sheppie's digs on them were pissing me off.  And what makes Sheppie such a great prize, that he can be looking his nose down on ANYONE -- with his shitty homeless man appearance?  

[biakbiak]

Who on earth would want to meet Shep and a camera crew when you are in your hospital bed?

Also, what's with the woman who said she couldn't do the on camera thing, it's not like they casually met at a bar and discovered he was on a reality show, she signed up to be on one.

[jennifrrr]

I'm going to guess this show ends up with him dating the producer, which would explain why we see and hear from her so much.

[Caseysgirl]

Please God, don't let the end of this show be that he hooks up with Sarah and so now he's a good guy.  She seems nice enough but if she were my daughter and allowed cameras in my hospital room after I had seizures that they were trying to diagnose (to say nothing of Shlep inserting himself into my possibly serious medical problem) I would be very annoyed. Bravo, really, have some class, don't make your producers sacrifice their personal lives for a story line.

Edited December 12, 2017 by Caseysgirl

[ryebread]

17 hours ago, Sun-Bun said:

Seriously, his educated himbo hayseed in the big city act is getting beyond tiring.

My god.  When he showed up to the Escape Room in that ($1,500) leather jacket that was 2 sizes too small, aw-shucking that he couldn't get the tags off....

After they left the Escape Room, we see Bella wearing the coat. Hopefully he let her keep it.  It looked a thousand times better on her than it did him.  At least the sleeves covered her wrists.

4 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

The part about the producer was a waste of time.  Why the fuck should we care about a producer & her problems?

See below.

1 hour ago, jennifrrr said:

I'm going to guess this show ends up with him dating the producer, which would explain why we see and hear from her so much.

Yup.  And he's already met the in-laws.

[ScoobieDoobs]

Yeah, it seems to be leading to that.  Don't be fooled.  Sheppie thinks he deserves a beauty queen -- and I bet he doesn't think the producer is good-looking enough for him.

Btw, we can totally blame the producer for putting the cams in her mother's hospital room when she's feeling "like shit".  She's a piece of shit for doing that to her mother.

Nah, I think Sheppie is working the producer the same way he works Satan Andy.  That's just who he is.

[rideashire]

I hope the producer is smart enough to say no to Shep, or if she doesn't, that it's all part of the storyline they agreed on. Otherwise, you know it won't take long for him to drop her just like everyone else.

She's an attractive woman but ScoobieDoobs is right, Shep likes 'em HOT. (his version of hot anyway)  He'd be shallow enough to get her in bed and then shove her on her way afterward. No country club dinners with the fam for the producer.

[Prairie]

Gawd he's so sloppy looking! Has he gotten worse? I don't remember him being this fucking gross when Southern Charm first started. And watching those poor girls kissing him in the previews, his mouth looks like it tastes like old nachos.

[CSunshine76]

6 hours ago, ryebread said:

My god.  When he showed up to the Escape Room in that ($1,500) leather jacket that was 2 sizes too small, aw-shucking that he couldn't get the tags off....

After they left the Escape Room, we see Bella wearing the coat. Hopefully he let her keep it.  It looked a thousand times better on her than it did him.  At least the sleeves covered her wrists.

See below.

Yup.  And he's already met the in-laws.

I got the vibe it was leaning toward Shep and the producer connecting, but I'd rather have not been spoiled to that.

The double date in Dallas killed me.  In my forty+ years in Texas I have never heard of mixing Dr Pepper and wine.  That girl was nuts!

[Sun-Bun]

11 minutes ago, CSunshine76 said:

The double date in Dallas killed me.  In my forty+ years in Texas I have never heard of mixing Dr Pepper and wine.  That girl was nuts!

In her *very* slight defense, that's actually a very popular drink blend in Spain---I've tried that Diet Coke/red wine combo myself, and it's absolutely delicious!!

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/1428364

I'd have thought the self-proclaimed worldly and sophisticated Shep would've already known about this international drink, but I guess it was easier to simply use her odd drink preference in a bid to prove her craziness.

[ScoobieDoobs]

I'll vaguely give Sheppie credit for saying, once he started talking to the blonde of the Texas duo, that she was not necessarily what she appeared to be -- that she actually had some smarts & depth, and he shouldn't judge her only based on her looks & demeanor.  Still, I hated his attitude that they were way beneath him.  Ew.

OK, OK, I get it.  The Texas gals were a producer plant for our entertainment.  But I kinda liked 'em.  Sure, they looked odd & acted generally loopy, but they weren't at all mean & they were basically harmless & fun.  But the thought of mixing Dr. Pepper (which has cherry & vanilla flavors) with ANY kind of wine sets off my gag reflex.  Jeez, that sounds gross.

Also on the Texas duo -- did anyone else think they were 40ish (at least)?  Were producers trying to get some older women in the mix for Sheppie?

Just wondering -- did they include the scene of Sheppie in the tub to prove to us he does actually clean himself (even if it may be a rare occurance)?

[Swellcatt]

20 hours ago, jennifrrr said:

I'm going to guess this show ends up with him dating the producer, which would explain why we see and hear from her so much.

This is my thought too. With him running to be at her side and her understanding him, it's a classic rom/com. Too bad it won't stick. That would actually be a great story. 

[PrincessPurrsALot]

Shepcats,

A reminder that speculation is not the same as a spoiler.  For example, I could say I think Shep will become a well-kempt, compassionate, sober person.  You can all have a good laugh at my naiveté, and we can keep going.  So speculate away - no harm, no foul in speculation. 

Thanks!

[PrincessPurrsALot]

Given Shep's insistence that he is quite the Shakespeare fan, I wish one of the women had used some Shakespeare Insults.  I think we would all agree he looks like he emits "The rankest compound of villainous smell that ever offended nostril."

Or perhaps one of the women could suggest that he "sell when you can, you are not for all markets". 

And of course one could decry "you starvelling, you elf-skin, you dried neat’s-tongue, bull’s-pizzle, you stock-fish!"

[TheFinalRose]

Shep should just marry Landon. She likes to travel, or ROAM as she prefers to call it, and would do fine at the country club. Heck, Shep can't finish his date without calling Landon up and having her join them.  Landon likes Shep's money and she seems like she would be fine having the kids and the house and planning her parties and spending Shep's money while Shep went golfing and still hung out with his buds. 

[Sage47]

I don’t hate Shep like most seem to; he seems pretty harmless to me. So he’s an aging party boy, there are always some guys like that. Believe me, I have met MANY. He lives in Charleston and runs in a circle of men that won’t grow up-that is what he knows. So I am not going to knock him. 

But this show is just stupid. Shep meets lots of beautiful, compatible girls right in Charleston. He just doesn’t *truly* want to settle down, despite what he says. I DO believe that he wants a conventional life like his parents-marriage, kids, country club. But his subconscious doesn’t really want it. Not yet. 

If the show were really serious he would only be dating Southern girls, preferably right nearby. South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, NC....

Also, do the producers secretly hate Shep?? Every girl on here seems underwhelmed to be out with him. They talk so bitchy to him. What about the gem that handed him the book “Being Sexy for Dummies” or something like that. WTF?? How insulting. I would have handed it back to her and told her she needed to read it. 

Shep can be an idiot and a snob, no doubt. He can look sloppy and his partying is a bit over the top. But overall he’s a decent enough person and has a fun personality. I am wondering why they hired all these girls that are blatantly rejecting towards him. I do feel bad for him honestly. I know no one will agree with me! :p

[AntAnn]

3 hours ago, Sage47 said:

I know no one will agree with me! :p

I agree with you ?

[RedHawk]

I found myself wondering why they don't have an episode with Patti Stanger (sp?), the Millionaire Matchmaker, in which she cleans Shep up, puts him in a new wardrobe, and gives him basic dating instructions. Her Bravo series isn't on anymore or it could have been a fun crossover. He really needs the help. In his publicity photos for the show he looks so much cleaner and more neatly dressed than in these episodes. He could at least show the ladies enough respect to TRY to look good, and that's what bugs me the most: he acts like they are "auditioning" for him (which they are, basically) as if he were so high above them and not equals. I love that some of the more mature ones with actual jobs/careers said, "Sorry, nope" to his pathetic invitation to come to Charleston and re-create episodes of "Rock of Love". Heh, at least Bret Michaels and his ever-present bandana looked clean.

[biakbiak]

20 minutes ago, RedHawk said:

Her Bravo series isn't on anymore or it could have been a fun crossover. 

She basically has the same show on WE, so probably not available. It's a shame the Queer Eye reboot isn't on Bravo,  he is the perfect canidate.

[scrb]

On 12/11/2017 at 8:03 PM, hoosier80 said:

Wow.  I'd have to give Shep a hard pass.  He's still a little boy.  Stop rubbing your face with your hands, very insecure.  He's used to being a big fish in a little pond.  Take him out of that pond, and no game at all.

So he's bringing all those women back to live in one house.  Yeah, this isn't a serious attempt to find that special someone, just more tv time.  Good for the one girl to say nah, I'm passing on it.    Bachelor Lite.  Nah.

I've never seen the Bachelor shows but I saw the first season of Unreal.  What an awful format but I guess it's successful so Bravo is going to copy it.  Looks like Cameran will get involved back in Charleston.

It looked like he was getting into the road trip part at least.  Even when he ultimately decided not to invite Summer, because of her big hair and overall look, he seemed to have a good time.

He said at one point that one of the reasons he's doing this show is to find out something about himself.  I guess he didn't have a good answer for that one girl who asked why is he still single at his age.

But how did they screen these dates and presumably these women would have had to sign up for this, at least consent to be filmed for hours on these dates.

One of the women either declined or hesitated to accept the invitation to Charleston because of being filmed all the time.

At least on those Bachelor shows, the women are opting in from the beginning, to ride out the whole show.  Supposedly on this show, they're being set up with Shep by mutual friends.

 

They did catch him on several occasions feeling insecure about inviting some of them, in case they would decline.  He seemed really disheartened when that one woman said no.

If he's really into some of these women, he should try to contact them outside the context of the show.  The previews for the next episode looks like a circus, with them all in bikinis.

But it sounded like at least one of the women was objecting that he was "dating" all these other women at the same time.  Maybe it will turn out that some of these women were at least as interested in being on TV as they were interested in him.  Otherwise, why endure a Bachelor type of circus?

[IslandGirl]

I've never seen Southern Charm, so this is my first exposure to Shep. My husband & I both like him so far; he seems deep, & appears to be searching for depth & intelligence in a good looking, well mannered lady who also knows how to have fun & let loose. Some of the women were drop dead gorgeous, but he had no interest because they were shallow or unintellectual. We like that he realized the big hair Texas woman was actually intelligent, & admitted to prejudging her incorrectly.

At first I found Shep's unkempt appearance endearing, but not having seen SC perhaps it's more dysfunctional than I realize...

As far as coming back to Charleston, I could imagine myself agreeing, but then being unable to handle the actual reality of SisterGirlfriends! 

[RedHawk]

11 hours ago, IslandGirl said:

At first I found Shep's unkempt appearance endearing, but not having seen SC perhaps it's more dysfunctional than I realize...

 

It will be interesting to hear your perspective as the series goes on, having no pre-conceived ideas about Shep.

[ivygirl]

On 12/16/2017 at 5:27 AM, IslandGirl said:

I've never seen Southern Charm, so this is my first exposure to Shep. My husband & I both like him so far; he seems deep, & appears to be searching for depth & intelligence in a good looking, well mannered lady who also knows how to have fun & let loose. Some of the women were drop dead gorgeous, but he had no interest because they were shallow or unintellectual. We like that he realized the big hair Texas woman was actually intelligent, & admitted to prejudging her incorrectly.

Give it time. ;) I kinda felt the same about Shep when Southern Charm started, but no more. That show really hasn’t done him any favors over the years.

[jumper sage]

No thread for tonight's show?  I thought it was ridiculous!  So now he is the bachelor?  Why does he always look so dirty?

[Sun-Bun]

I actually enjoyed this episode a lot, probably the most I've enjoyed this show yet---I think it's mainly because Shep was back on his home turf and some of the SC cast was featured. He's a bit more likable and less goofy when he's not such a fish out of water. 

Too bad this show has dissolved into a Bachelor/Rock of Love-style mess now; just cue the drunk/bitchy chicks having weepy meltdowns, which apparently starts right on schedule next week. I'm glad they're not forcing rose ceremonies or final decisions and there's only 4 or 5 chicks so we actually get to know these poor girls better, but it's still the exact same typical competitive dating show blueprint. I guess I'll hang in there so long as no one mentions "fantasy dates", feeling "like a princess", or "this journey."

Also, Payton's not "sassy", she's just a snarky bitch. Ditto the Brazilian chick; the other brunettes may be young, but at least they don't act like bitter hags.

[PrincessPurrsALot]

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Shep says goodbye to his road trip of love and invites a few ladies back to Charleston. Cameron begins her own interrogation of the ladies. After some speed dating and sightseeing, a beach party turns salty when Shep tries to juggle five women at once. Lat (more…)Shep says goodbye to his road trip of love and invites a few ladies back to Charleston. Cameron begins her own interrogation of the ladies. After some speed dating and sightseeing, a beach party turns salty when Shep tries to juggle five women at once. Later, an unexpected guest knocks the wind out of the already full house.

[ScoobieDoobs]

Idk, all those women competing for disgusting, ragged ole Sheppie just really squicked me out.  The scenery of Charleston was nice.  But it's not enough for me to keep watching.  Was wishing one of the women (maybe that sassy Brazilian woman) would throw some soapy water on Sheppie.  Man, he looks like he stinks.  Yech.

OK, Cams, I got a question for you to ask those poor unfortunate women (who Bravo can't be paying enough dough to be on this thing).  How about -- can you guess the STD you'll get from Sheppie if you actually kiss him (that is, without throwing up violently after)?

Edited December 19, 2017 by ScoobieDoobs

[yourmomiseasy]

I dislike Peyton, but she might be my favorite because I like it when she's drunk and mean and it seems like that's often.

[jumper sage]

5 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

Idk, all those women competing for disgusting, ragged ole Sheppie just really squicked me out.  The scenery of Charleston was nice.  But it's not enough for me to keep watching.  Was wishing one of the women (maybe that sassy Brazilian woman) would throw some soapy water on Sheppie.  Man, he looks like he stinks.  Yech.

OK, Cams, I got a question for you to ask those poor unfortunate women (who Bravo can't be paying enough dough to be on this thing).  How about -- can you guess the STD you'll get from Sheppie if you actually kiss him (that is, without throwing up violently after)?

You said it better than I could!  Shep does look like he stinks.  Why would these accomplished women even entertain the idea of competing for Shep?

[bosawks]

Shep is beginning to look like the toy my dog leaves out all winter and "rediscovers" the first time I mow the lawn.

[TexasGal]

Love the cliffhanger about who is joining uninvited.  Not.  At all.

(Goes to Bravo site to find the Sheptestants' names....) I think Priscilla (Brazilian) or Arden (NY trivia date) seem the best matches so far.  If Peyton is going to get ugly jealous every time she's drunk (which would be often hanging with Shep) and Shep flirts with someone else (which would be often hanging with Shep), that would not be a good look.  I like Kylie and Bella but didn't appreciate whichever one of them (Kylie I think) was dumping on Priscilla during the trolley tour about her being too old to have kids.

[Lizzing]

Bravo really missed the boat with this spin off.  It should have been Cameran going around the country exploring UFO/alien sightings.  Her finding proof of extraterrestrial life is far more plausible than Shep settling down for a monogamous life with a wife and kids. 

Edited December 19, 2017 by Lizzing
spelling is not my strong suit

[biakbiak]

37 minutes ago, Lizzing said:

Bravo really missed the boat with this spin off.  It should have been Cameran going around the country exploring UFO/alien sightings.  Her finding proof of extraterrestrial life is far more plausible than Shep settling down for a monogamous life with a wife and kids. 

I would totally watch that show.

Shep isjust not that interesting.