S01.E04: Git Gone

[tennisgurl]

So the lesson here? Road head is always a bad idea.

I was really interested in this episode going in, and I found it to be quite fascinating, especially for an episode without a whole lot of plot movement or god action. It was a character study of Laura, and I find her to be really interesting. I wouldn't call her a likable person by any means, but I do think I understand her, and I do feel some sympathy for her, more than what she probably deserves on paper. Its clear she is severely depressed, and even when she gets with Shadow, who I think she did love (not as much as he loved her, but she did), she still just feels like she's going through the motions. Maybe its clinical depression, maybe its being unsatisfied by her life in general, maybe its general nialism, maybe its all three, but she is clearly a deeply unhappy person, and it makes me feel more for her, even though everyone is probably right about Shadow being too good for her. She came up with an idea that got him thrown in jail (although to be fair to her, she did offer to confess to shave off a few years to his sentence), ignored his phone calls while he was in prison, and then cheated on him with his best friend, who was also her best friends husband. And it was clear she didn't actually even like Robby very much, he was just...there. It seems like Laura lived her life trying to find something to shake up her numbness, even if those things hurt others, and it never worked out. I don't like her as a person, exactly, but I do kind of root for her to find some meaning in her afterlife, and I'm interested in her as a character. Depression doesn't excuse how awful she was to Shadow and Audrey, but it does add some context.

I really like the idea that Laura, being basically dead on the inside in life, actually came more to life as a zombie. She seems to feel more connected and in love with Shadow as the undead, and actually displayed more fire as a dead person than we ever saw while she was alive.

I'm so glad they found some reason for Audrey to come back, she is just such a great character even in the brief time we`ve had with her. "Get out of my house you zombie whore!!!!" Really, she actually handled finding her undead zombie best friend who died while screwing her husband a lot better than I think most people would. I hope they come up with reasons for her to show up every once in awhile.

Mr. Jacquel and Mr. Ibis are awesome and I cant wait to see more of them. I love how warm and pleasant Mr. Ibis is, while Mr. Jacquel is more stoic and professional (unless someone bugs him like Laura apparently), they make for a really interesting double act. As for Laura's afterlife in the Eternal Jacuzzi of Darkness, I don't think its because she depressed or an atheist, I think its an utter lack of interest or belief in anything. Completely taking out belief in the afterlife in our world, I have no idea how the rules here work, except we saw that the woman from last time ended up having options beyond her Muslim beliefs, and she was guided to the afterlife by someone more connected to her Egyptian heritage. Laura had nothing. No belief, no heritage that meant anything to her, no passion for anything, no love for anything (beyond maybe Shadow), just a belief that life was nothing, so she ends up with nothing. I don't know if that's exactly how it works, or if its fair, but I don't think it was a punishment exactly. It was just lining up with what she was in life. The woman last week had lots of things in her life, so she had lots of afterlife's she could fit into. Laura had nothing, so where would she go? Or maybe it was because she had to give Mr. Jacquel an attitude and not let him see her heart, and he couldn't give her a better reading, I'm not sure.

[ganesh]

This was really hilarious. And stuff actually happened with pacing. To be fair, this is only episode 4, so if the show is actually going to have more pace like this, I think 3 episodes of world building is fair. 

So, all I have to do when I die is tell death to go pound sand, and I can go? Ok, great! I actually like that there's someone who isn't just accepting things as they are. 

I didn't think we were supposed to like Laura. She seemed bored by life, but wasn't really doing anything about it. She turned to crime to get some excitement and then to the affair. I don't have a problem that she's not likeable. I'm hoping Shadow doesn't fall back into being her "puppy" anymore. 

I thought Wednesday caused the car accident because they showed a raven watching Tommy go into Laura's house, but I guess it could have been an accident and he was just observing. 

I assume the 'light' around Shadow is indicative of his 'destiny' or why Wednesday wants him. I do hope we find out that sooner than later even if it takes longer for Shadow to find out. 

I found Audrey's coping with the whole thing to be believable. This brand of humor fits the show well. I hope there's more of it. 

21 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Clearly she had long been depressed but is it possible she was also suicidal and subconsciously hoped she'd cause a fatal accident by distracting him?

Ah, or that. She clearly wasn't thrilled with Shadow coming back. 

[rozen]

I dunno, this episode makes me look sideways at Shadow and his 'true love' spiel. Seems to me he settled down because he was ready to settle down for a bit and Laura was passive enough to let him glom onto her and the sex was good (for him*). This version of Shadow literally never understood Laura on any fundamental level, she was spiraling down faster and faster and he was happy to bro out at the grill with Robbie. He used her as driftwood and never considered she might be drowning. 

Audrey is hysterical. I demand they find a way to incorporate her into everything, because I <3 her with the fire of a thousand suns now.

How is Anubis saying the most benign and innocuous shit and still scaring the crap out of me? That actor is as amazing!

 

*Like seriously, two sex scenes later he's back to the sweet puppy sex when she made her preference perfectly clear in their first encounter. Girl seriously didn't get anything she wanted, eh?

[ElectricBoogaloo]

I enjoyed this episode because it gave us more perspective on Laura besides "dead wife who slept with Shadow's best friend." I feel for her because depression is a bear to deal with, especially if you don't realize you're depressed and you think that this is just the way you are. On the other hand, she made a decision to sleep with Robbie, something that she knew meant hurting/betraying her husband, her best friend Audrey, and the guy she was sleeping with who has the dual roles of husband's best friend and best friend's husband. Then she kept making the decision to do it over and over again.

I wonder if she thought that being with Shadow would change things and make her happier or at least give her a spark or something to look forward to or distract her. Unfortunately, that's not how to treat depression so of course it didn't work. Maybe she was so depressed and passive that she let the relationship continue because she couldn't be bothered to tell Shadow to go away. I think at the beginning of the relationship, she really was making an effort but at some point she realized that she was still the same person who still felt the same way.

But I also think that she could see how much Shadow loved her and she didn't want to hurt him by breaking up with him. I don't think she stayed with him because she was dependent on him (the way some people refuse to break up with someone because they need the other person to do things for them). She would have been fine if he went to work and never came back, but I think she knew that it would hurt him deeply if she told him the truth, that she didn't need him at all.

My guess is that she figured she would feel that same grey level of blah regardless of whether he was there or not so she might as well let him stay so that one of them was happy. I'm not saying she's this great humanitarian or anything. I just think that she thought it was a situation she could live with and that she'd made her bed. But then out of the fog, she came up with the idea to rob the casino to break up the monotony of the constant haze she lives in. That may have been more selfish than sleeping with Robbie because she asked Shadow, who was no longer a con man/criminal, to do something illegal and very risky, just to make her feel something, even if only for a moment.

[qtpye]

23 hours ago, nodorothyparker said:

It would be a hard sell to make that likable, and I like that they don't really try.  What it does is give me some context beyond oh, she was a cheating bitch and poor poor Shadow.  It's telling that the affair with doofy Robbie seemed to just happen like so much of the rest of her life seemed to just happen with very little deliberate decisiveness on her part.  It also fits with what we've seen of Shadow so far that he's a guy who goes along with whatever and doesn't question too deeply.

It's funny, despite her depression I saw her as the leader in the relationship.  Shadow is sort of an everyman trapped in a body of an Adonis.  Laura is supposed to be very charismatic and charming (I assume), which makes her fairly irresistible.   She has no problem getting people to do things for her and even make it seem like it was their idea.  Shadow will follow his wife's lead...her desires are his and it does not occur to him the opposite might not be true.

[nodorothyparker]

I didn't get any sense that Laura is supposed to charismatic or charming as much as she's the sort of cute sad package that men almost invariably want to think they're rescuing and taking care of.  It's definitely a type.  And she lets them because it doesn't really require her to do anything.  We don't really know a ton about Shadow even four episodes in except that his mother died of cancer at some point and that for someone who's apparently alone in the world, he seems to be a fairly easy going sort of draw.  Their relationship reads to me like he projected quite a bit of the happy home and life stuff onto her and since it didn't add to her unhappiness she let him.

[Actualized Peggy]

Does anyone think there might be some symbolism (or at least a joke that I’m not getting) in the fact that it was always Woody Woodpecker cartoons playing on Laura’s TV when she came home at night?

I assume that she left the TV on to give the impression to potential thieves that there was someone inside, but why specifically show Woody Woodpecker over and over again ? (at least as far as I remember… I may be wrong. Wine was involved when I watched the episode)

[NorthstarATL]

22 minutes ago, Actualized Peggy said:

Does anyone think there might be some symbolism (or at least a joke that I’m not getting) in the fact that it was always Woody Woodpecker cartoons playing on Laura’s TV when she came home at night?

I assume that she left the TV on to give the impression to potential thieves that there was someone inside, but why specifically show Woody Woodpecker over and over again ? (at least as far as I remember… I may be wrong. Wine was involved when I watched the episode)

Well, there was a pecker involved in her death...

[Actualized Peggy]

2 minutes ago, NorthstarATL said:

Well, there was a pecker involved in her death...

Ha!

Good point. And said pecker was probably also quite... woody

[Drogo]

For some, woodpeckers are believed to be symbolic spirit animals. 

Spoiler

When this bird comes knocking in your dreams it is asking you to pay attention in your waking life. There may be something you have overlooked and it is trying to bring it back into your focus.

Many Native American tribes considered the woodpecker as an other-worldly messenger, and a prophet.

[Scaeva]

On May 22, 2017 at 11:54 AM, clack said:

Laura has a medical condition. Would it be fair if a blind person gets a sightless afterlife?

And Laura did not put in "nothing". She had a job. She had friends. She had mercy on Shadow when she might have had him arrested. She added little to the world, true, but she did add something.

Laura may have been depressed, but it was "fair" that she wasn't getting sent to a happy afterlife. She treated people that cared about her terribly, and being sad doesn't entirely absolve her of guilt. Plenty of depressed people don't break up a friend's marriage while cheating on a spouse they got sent to prison. Laura knew it too, which is why she didn't want to bother with having her heart weighed against the feather.

On the other hand getting condemned to an enternity of darkness seems overly harsh as well. Laura may not have been a good person, but she also wasn't Hitler or Stalin. That the gods are unfair and at times overly harsh works, though. The pagan gods often were petty and vindictive, with all of our human flaws. The God of the Old Testament was cut from a similar cloth, drowning the world in a global flood or sending Sodom and Gamorrah up in smoke when humans displeased him. The concept of an altruistic God is relatively modern.

Edited May 23, 2017 by Scaeva

[Haleth]

I just thought maybe the cat liked woody woodpecker. ?

[Tara Ariano]

In case you missed it, here's the Previously.TV post on the episode!

 

This Adorable Cat Is Just One Of The Fascinating Symbols In American Gods

Don't even get us started on the magical hot tub!

[eelpout]

On 5/21/2017 at 10:50 PM, yagathai said:

I really think Betty Gilpin has done an amazing job as Audrey. She steals every scene she's in.

Betty Gilpin as Audrey, reminds me of the (much missed from later seasons) Elizabeth Perkins as Celia Hodes foil from Weeds.

[Anela]

So Laura saved her husband from that lynch mob? Sounds like she loved him, to me. I'm still watching - I've made it this far. Looking forward to seeing Audrey again. 

[Anela]

Audrey was hilarious. 

If she's depressed, it is cruel to send her to eternal darkness. I've dealt with severe depression, and you're already living in darkness a lot of the time.

[nodorothyparker]

It never occurred to me that there might be any more to the TV being on than not wanting to come home to a dark quiet house and leaving it for company for the cat.  That's why I always did it back in the day when I used to live alone and work nights.

[jeansheridan]

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Audrey is a hoot and a riot, I love her in every scene she is in and wish she could be a bigger role than she clearly is meant to be.  Pretty sure this will never happen, but I'd love for her and Mad Sweeney to meet.  Can you imagine the snark?!  They would become instant soulmates!

This is why there is fanfic because that is a great idea for a short story.  Audrey kind of has crap luck too.

[Spaceman Spiff]

I was really bored with this episode. I didn't care about Shadow and his wife's past Didn't need to see the affair, or the BJ and car crash, or Laura trying to commit suicide in a hot tub with bug spray (is that even an effective way?). I ignored a bunch, and fast forwarded through a lot. The only times I think I really paid attention was when she was dealing with Anubis.

The first three episodes kept me intrigued, this brought everything to screeching halt. Hopefully next week will bring back my interest otherwise I don't know if I will continue with this show.

[Wryly]

Wow. So Laura really is a cheatin' ho (though her story was told fairly well, I thought). Part of me wondered if Mr. Wednesday orchestrated her death and planted the evidence of the affair with Robbie, in an effort to sever all of Shadow's attachments. Telling a guy his wife died cheating on him is a good way to make him walk away and not look back, both literally and emotionally.

But nope. She's just a deeply flawed human being whose emotional numbness drove her to slut it up with a gross neighbor and harm the man who loves her. Seriously, I found Robbie gross. I don't understand how she tolerated sexual contact with him. I was kind of disgusted with her. I get that she was trying to self-medicate with sex, but... eurgh.

Felt really bad for Shadow when he told Laura he'd be happy living in a cardboard box with her (aww), and she was all like, "Well not me, I don't love you that much. Hey will you go rob that casino I told you not to rob?" It is a realistic depiction of depression, though.

When Anubis found Laura again on the road, I thought the jig was up and he would haul her butt right back to the Bug Spray Hot Tub of Eternal Darkness. Instead he helped prepare her for her meeting with Shadow. Weird.

I'm not sure I understand why Zombie Laura sees Shadow as a radiant light. Is it because he loved her? Does everyone who comes back from the dead see their loved ones as small suns? Or is it their "unfinished business" that lights up?

[Which Tyler]

7 minutes ago, Wryly said:

I'm not sure I understand why Zombie Laura sees Shadow as a radiant light. Is it because he loved her? Does everyone who comes back from the dead see their loved ones as small suns? Or is it their "unfinished business" that lights up?

Best guess - he's the one who flipped her the sunshine coin of protection thing

[Wryly]

1 minute ago, Which Tyler said:

Best guess - he's the one who flipped her the sunshine coin of protection thing

Hmm. That's a good guess. Though I thought Laura absorbed the coin and neither Shadow or Mad Sweeney have its power anymore.

12 hours ago, Anela said:

So Laura saved her husband from that lynch mob? Sounds like she loved him, to me. I'm still watching - I've made it this far. Looking forward to seeing Audrey again. 

I don't understand why Laura all the sudden loves Shadow after she comes back from the dead.

[Pallas]

44 minutes ago, Wryly said:

I don't understand why Laura all the sudden loves Shadow after she comes back from the dead.

Laura loved Shadow while she was alive, too. But now she's just dead, not depressed. 

[Drogo]

Waxing poetic -

In fairness to Laura, it doesn't seem she ever intended to leave Shadow for Robbie.  Their affair was purely sexual and filling a void for her while he was gone.  That's not to say I excuse her for it, or that it wasn't wrong (it was) but I think she loved Shadow as much as she could have but without his actual presence to distract her, then the loss of her other connection (the cat) the darkness was taking over rapidly.  It seems only in death (with a clock ticking) can she actually see her faith/love for Shadow and believe that she might actually deserve his light/love.

“Yet many is the man who would take any version of his lost love rather than leave his love lost. He will say, ‘thank you’ to whatever god sent you back to him.” 

Include me in that "many," Mr. Ibis.  

[BuddhaBelly]

3 hours ago, Wryly said:

 

I don't understand why Laura all the sudden loves Shadow after she comes back from the dead.

I saw a read an interesting analysis on this that now that her world is all grey and Shadow is literally the sun in it, she's seeing a physical embodiment of what love is...or what people explain love as. He's literally the light her life..thus she must love him.

[jeansheridan]

Also it looks like Laura was in search of a purpose in her life.  Now she has one.  Now she gets to exist on a bigger scale with bigger stakes.  But I do like there are petty details like finding a car, fixing her arm, etc.  Those details feel very Gaiman-like to me.  Or Joss Whedon.

[theatremouse]

20 hours ago, Anela said:

If she's depressed, it is cruel to send her to eternal darkness. I've dealt with severe depression, and you're already living in darkness a lot of the time.

I don't think it's cruel and I don't think it's a darkness she'd actually experience. She expected eternal nothingness; he revealed she was going to get exactly what she expected. I don't think it's about the depression at all, and I don't think it's cruel or harsh for the answer to be "yup, it's exactly what you thought it'd be". Since she gets to have a brief moment of knowing had she expected something else, it also could've been that something else, that might sting for a moment, but once it's done, she wouldn't be capable of knowing anymore. It's a bit worse now that she got zapped back as a zombie because there's anticipation now she knows she is supposed to be dead (or...still is), but if she'd just gone to the nothing a minute after she died, no big thing.

[Wryly]

14 hours ago, Pallas said:

Laura loved Shadow while she was alive, too. But now she's just dead, not depressed. 

I didn't really get that impression. He seemed more like an amusement she allowed to marry her. Audrey says, "You did not love him when you were alive. Come on, not love him, love him. He was a pet. There was a reason you called him Puppy." And Laura says, "Yeah. Well, I love him now." That seemed like a fair description of what was going on, to me. 

When she was alive, I got the impression that she was aware she should love him. He was devoted to her, to a degree other women envied. But the emotion switch just wasn't flipped on. And now she comes back from the dead, and it is.

[ganesh]

What I liked was that she just disagreed with the overall premise. You don't get to weigh my heart against a feather just because reasons. Just because there's gods doesn't mean I have to believe in them. Or doesn't make you better than me. 

[Scaeva]

On 5/24/2017 at 7:01 AM, Wryly said:

Wow. So Laura really is a cheatin' ho (though her story was told fairly well, I thought). Part of me wondered if Mr. Wednesday orchestrated her death and planted the evidence of the affair with Robbie, in an effort to sever all of Shadow's attachments. Telling a guy his wife died cheating on him is a good way to make him walk away and not look back, both literally and emotionally.

But nope.

Even though Mr. Wednesday was telling the truth it may not necessarily rule out that he orchestrated things to pull Shadow into his orbit. During that final drive ravens make an appearance, and in Norse mythology Odin had ravens that were his eyes and ears that kept him abreast of events on Earth. Maybe that was implying that Wednesday caused the car crash. He did need the wife to die and for the affair to exposed after all, to get Shadow to agree to work for him, as you pointed out. Either it was a very lucky coincidence for Wednesday or he caused the car crash.

[tongueincheek]

On 5/24/2017 at 8:07 PM, ganesh said:

What I liked was that she just disagreed with the overall premise. You don't get to weigh my heart against a feather just because reasons. Just because there's gods doesn't mean I have to believe in them. Or doesn't make you better than me. 

This is what sealed the deal for me. I love Laura. I love "unlikable" women more. I don't have to like a character; I just have to understand their motivations and what makes them tick. That's real and that's interesting, and that is Laura to me. Love that she stuck to her principles (for lack of a better word). 

I would love a Laura/Audrey postmortem buddy comedy too. That whole car ride with the two of them was hysterical.

[DarkRaichu]

Best dialog was between Anubis & Laura

A: In life you believed in nothing. You will go to nothing. You will be done. There will be darkness
L: And peace?
A: There will be darkness
L: You know what? No!
A: There is nowhere else for you to be. .. etc etc ... Death is NOT a debate.. etc etc..

It reminded me there is 1 life to live.  I better understand the consequences of choices I have made and will be making.

[Which Tyler]

6 hours ago, DarkRaichu said:

Best dialog was between Anubis & Laura

A: In life you believed in nothing. You will go to nothing. You will be done. There will be darkness
L: And peace?
A: There will be darkness
L: You know what? No!
A: There is nowhere else for you to be. .. etc etc ... Death is NOT a debate.. etc etc..

It reminded me there is 1 life to live.  I better understand the consequences of choices I have made and will be making.

Uninformed consent is not valid consent

Uninformed opinion is not valid opinion

Uninformed decision is not a valid decision

 

Either way, Anubis contradicts himself. "You will go to nothing" means that it just ends, nothing more happens, there is... nothing. "There will eb darkness" means that there will be something, and it sounds a hell of a lot like an eternity of sensory deprivation AKA purgatory; which is NOT "nothing"

[ganesh]

10 hours ago, Scaeva said:

During that final drive ravens make an appearance, and in Norse mythology Odin had ravens that were his eyes and ears that kept him abreast of events on Earth.

There was a raven on the lamppost over Laura's house earlier in the episode too. I don't think Wednesday actually manipulated events. Clearly, Shadow is of interest, and I think Wednesday was just keeping tabs on him long term in order to time their first meeting. 

4 hours ago, Which Tyler said:

Either way, Anubis contradicts himself. "You will go to nothing" means that it just ends, nothing more happens, there is... nothing. "There will eb darkness" means that there will be something, and it sounds a hell of a lot like an eternity of sensory deprivation AKA purgatory; which is NOT "nothing"

All he was doing was yelling at her. When he went for her heart, she knocked his hand away, so it's not like he could compel her. I would have probably done the same thing, 'who are you to judge me?' and just walked away. 

[DarkRaichu]

4 hours ago, Which Tyler said:

Uninformed consent is not valid consent

Uninformed opinion is not valid opinion

Uninformed decision is not a valid decision

Let me know when you find a way to escape death

[Which Tyler]

28 minutes ago, DarkRaichu said:

Let me know when you find a way to escape death

Let me know when you find anyone trying

[DarkRaichu]

3 hours ago, Which Tyler said:

Let me know when you find anyone trying

I could but those examples would fill up the pages of this board :P

This is one:
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20140821-i-will-be-frozen-when-i-die

[Which Tyler]

Fair point, well made - Though I still fail to see any relevance to what my post about decision making / belief.

[Wryly]

On 5/25/2017 at 11:22 PM, Scaeva said:

Even though Mr. Wednesday was telling the truth it may not necessarily rule out that he orchestrated things to pull Shadow into his orbit. During that final drive ravens make an appearance, and in Norse mythology Odin had ravens that were his eyes and ears that kept him abreast of events on Earth. Maybe that was implying that Wednesday caused the car crash. He did need the wife to die and for the affair to exposed after all, to get Shadow to agree to work for him, as you pointed out. Either it was a very lucky coincidence for Wednesday or he caused the car crash.

The other car did flee the scene. Driver was never identified. Or at least it says so in the newspaper article that Shadow reads at the bar.

But I think I was just desperate for the possibility that it was all a conspiracy and Laura didn't really give Robbie road head. So much damage to my opinion of her. So much. Oh, the respect lost. Hard to get past. Whenever I revisit it I'm like, "Seriously? So you have no standards at all then." I guess Robbie was just convenient and close by. He was her... Monica Lewinsky.

Wow that paragraph was way meaner than I normally am. What the hell happened. You will all disregard the Meanie Bo Beanie Paragraph.

Is anyone else curious what it would be like for Shadow and Audrey to hook up? Like for realsies, not revenge banging in cemeteries. I have no idea why, but I like the idea of that pairing. And I absolutely love Audrey. I really, really hope that her character isn't going to fade into the background as the main plot revs up.

[attica]

So there's this fairly common phenomenon when people are in grief, they're often compelled to bone. It's like their bodies are demanding LIFE when their emotions are dealing with death. So I expected Laura's affair with Robbie to begin when the cat died. And lo, it did.

If I were the music supervisor on this show, I would have opted by something by the Grateful Dead rather than The Band, but maybe they couldn't get rights...

Speaking of tunes, I dug that Shirley Manson tune.

Edited May 28, 2017 by attica
herp derp

[Drogo]

1 hour ago, attica said:

If I were the music supervisor on this show, I would have opted by something by the Gratefully Dead rather than The Band, but maybe they couldn't get rights...

I liked the choice of The Weight for Laura's last living song.  It's a song full of religious names/words, but really Moses/Nazareth/etc. are earthly people and places. The Band has said the song is about the impossibility of sainthood, and how good people do bad things. 

[LydiaMoon1]

On 5/24/2017 at 3:10 AM, Spaceman Spiff said:

I was really bored with this episode. I didn't care about Shadow and his wife's past Didn't need to see the affair, or the BJ and car crash, or Laura trying to commit suicide in a hot tub with bug spray (is that even an effective way?). I ignored a bunch, and fast forwarded through a lot. The only times I think I really paid attention was when she was dealing with Anubis.

The first three episodes kept me intrigued, this brought everything to screeching halt. Hopefully next week will bring back my interest otherwise I don't know if I will continue with this show.

Oh, so it wasn't just me.  Good to know.  I was bored af during this eppy and haven't been entertained since Mr. Nancy.  I was trying to hang around to see Bilquis again, but if this doesn't pick up soon I'm going to have to git gone myself!

[VegetasMom]

Maybe this has been asked, but who snatched Laura back to her body?  Anubis turned around like WTF so he didn't expect it.  Or did she just will herself back?

[benteen]

I agree that Laura's not very likeable but is very compelling.  I very much enjoyed this episode and appreciated that it focused all on her.

Audrey continues to be a hoot.

[formerlyfreedom]

1 hour ago, VegetasMom said:

Maybe this has been asked, but who snatched Laura back to her body?  Anubis turned around like WTF so he didn't expect it.  Or did she just will herself back?

I think that when Shadow threw the coin on her grave, that drew her back. That's how I interpreted it, since she emerged from the grave shortly after that.

[WatchrTina]

On 5/22/2017 at 9:25 PM, ganesh said:

So, all I have to do when I die is tell death to go pound sand, and I can go? Ok, great!

Nope, I'm pretty sure her being zipped back to earth (literally -- into earth) was caused by Shadow tossing that Leprechaun gold on her grave.

On 5/22/2017 at 9:25 PM, ganesh said:

thought Wednesday caused the car accident because they showed a raven watching Tommy go into Laura's house, but I guess it could have been an accident and he was just observing. 

Ditto.  Those ravens were there for a reason.  I think Mr. Wednesday had a hand in Laura's death.  He needed Shadow free to work for him.

On 5/25/2017 at 10:22 PM, Scaeva said:

in Norse mythology Odin had ravens that were his eyes and ears that kept him abreast of events on Earth. Maybe that was implying that Wednesday caused the car crash.

Yes.  This.

That episode was completely off book and I loved it.  I loved finding out what Laura got up to before she turned up in Shadow's hotel  room.  I loved the cinematography of super-strong zombie-Laura kicking those Clockwork-Orange-wannabe thugs into a bloody pulp.  But mostly I loved the scene between Laura and Audrey.  That was awesome.

There was one continuity gaff however.  Why did Laura walk into Mr. Ibis & Anubis's place of business armless?  Didn't we JUST see Audry sewing it back on for her?  Wasn't it in place when they were in the car?

[ganesh]

1 hour ago, WatchrTina said:

Nope, I'm pretty sure her being zipped back to earth (literally -- into earth) was caused by Shadow tossing that Leprechaun gold on her grave.

I know. I was making a joke. However, I did point out later in that post that she smacked away Anubis' hand when he reached for her heart, so it's possible he couldn't actually compel her to go into darkness, void, whatever. 

[Which Tyler]

8 hours ago, WatchrTina said:

There was one continuity gaff however.  Why did Laura walk into Mr. Ibis & Anubis's place of business armless?  Didn't we JUST see Audry sewing it back on for her?  Wasn't it in place when they were in the car?

I'm pretty sure that was explained in-episode.

Basically, you can't just sew the skin together and expect it to hold. So they wire the bones together, glue the muscles and THEN sew the skin.

[wayne67]

This show was already slow enough getting wherever it's going. I didn't really want an entire episode dedicated to a character I don't care about.

That said, I did like they finally got around to explaining how Shadow survived that confrontation with tech boys and that Aubrey has basically been the only one to really freak out about the supernatural weirdness as opposed to Shadow's low key kind of apathy/confusion. 

[The Kings Foot]

On 5/22/2017 at 8:40 AM, clack said:

Eternal darkness seems to be a harsh punishment for someone suffering from a medical condition, which depression is. Anubis is a dick.

 

On 5/22/2017 at 10:42 AM, luna1122 said:

I believe you die, you're dead. Done, that's it, not floating around in eternal limbo for not believing in deities. That seems fair.

Who said the afterlife was fair?

 I can't think of a single religion that doesn't require active belief as a minimum to get a happy afterlife.

On 5/26/2017 at 5:24 AM, Which Tyler said:

Uninformed consent is not valid consent

Uninformed opinion is not valid opinion

Uninformed decision is not a valid decision

 

Either way, Anubis contradicts himself. "You will go to nothing" means that it just ends, nothing more happens, there is... nothing. "There will eb darkness" means that there will be something, and it sounds a hell of a lot like an eternity of sensory deprivation AKA purgatory; which is NOT "nothing"

Death is not a court for man's  law. 

On 5/23/2017 at 10:28 AM, Actualized Peggy said:

Does anyone think there might be some symbolism (or at least a joke that I’m not getting) in the fact that it was always Woody Woodpecker cartoons playing on Laura’s TV when she came home at night?

I assume that she left the TV on to give the impression to potential thieves that there was someone inside, but why specifically show Woody Woodpecker over and over again ? (at least as far as I remember… I may be wrong. Wine was involved when I watched the episode)

Presumably she returns home in the same half hour time period every weekday. So the same thing is showing. 

 

Note though the new gods are all about technology.