2017 Tryouts and Training Camp: Candidates Included

[ShellyB]

11 hours ago, California Girl said:

Hey Ladies (and Gentlemen)!

Kelli Finglass tweeted this line on her Twitter account earlier today: Fantasy Camp DCC spring 2018.  

Now I have no idea what she is referring to but a girl can only dream, right?  Please let this be what I hope it means because if so I am starting my daily runs tomorrow, signing up for some dance classes, and working on my splits in preparation to finally meet some of y'all (pardon my language) b!+(#€$ at The Star in Spring 2018.

D-C-C!

It is was you’re thinking!

[ShellyB]

1 hour ago, MyFavShows said:

They actually contradicted their lie by NOT mentioning that Kashara was a new GL.

She probably wasn't leading at that game though because Erica was still there...

They danced in 2 groups at HOF, not 4. So Jinelle lead one group and Lacey lead the other. 

[LadyMsJay]

9 hours ago, Teresa said:

Looks like they're cutting the Erica stuff completely from the show entirely. Like "nothing to see here...move along!" 

Called that one..

 

1 hour ago, MyFavShows said:

They actually contradicted their lie by NOT mentioning that Kashara was a new GL.

She probably wasn't leading at that game though because Erica was still there...

Nah. I think since there were only a handful of girls, Lacey and Jinelle were the only ones leading that game. Besides, Erica wasn't even on the field.

[FaninMAss]

On 10/10/2017 at 0:25 PM, CaseyRe said:

I wonder how much of that is done to the show, though.  and it is 100% USA specific,  no matter how much Kelli says they're recognised the world over and have 'the world's most iconic uniform' (which makes me laugh and gag a little at the pretention and hubris in that ridiculous statement). 

It's the if-you-say-it-enough-times-people-think-it-is-a-fact mentality.  Not disrespecting anyone intentionally but they have a long-recognized brand to uphold so sticking to the party-line (or company-line in this case) is just the way it is.

[CaseyRe]

47 minutes ago, DancingForLife said:

WTH!!!??

a picture speaks 1000 words!!

that whole kick line was a mess. it was dreadful. esp going into the jump split they were all SO out of sync with each other it was laughable, and there's Judy going on about how the kickline is their signature move and of all the dances the timing has to be PERFECT on kickline. not a girl in that line up should haave come out of it feeling proud of how they'd done it

8 hours ago, PBSLover said:

That picture is hilarious.  Look at her arms!  

the ridiculous thing is, she did the arms right for a heartbeat and then went to the ta-da pose....weird

[CaseyRe]

I know they play up the 'drama' of it all (and are playing up 'which rookie gets cut next week thing) and they're drawing it out, but between the last few eps and the promo for next week, with ep after ep after ep after ep of them noting and picking up on Christina's dance flaws, poor kicks, that she's not got a particularly good cameo, that she's not photographing that well on the sidelines (despite being 'sporty cute' and what the heck does that mean????) HOW DOES SHE MAKE THE TEAM?????

[Smplsimon]

I really hope that when the team is announced, we get a talking head of Kelli saying something like, "I know it seems absurd that Christina made the team given that we cut dancers who were much more talented and much more attractive, but here's why we did it . . ." Maybe there's something we're missing, but from all I've seen, she truly is horrible.

[LaurenBrook]

On 10/11/2017 at 7:08 PM, UnicornKicks said:

Holly was D O N E after pro bowl. They didn't ask her and she wasn't mad.

Interesting, I've heard the opposite.  That she really wanted to be an all star with her bffs Katy and Emma, wasn't asked and wasn't given a reason why. 

Oh well.  In any case, she doesn't seem at all upset about it now.  

[tobeyoungagain]

1 hour ago, ShellyB said:

It is was you’re thinking!

Seriously?  that's kind of brilliant ... they're basically going to make money off of women who are part of the bloopers they make fun of during try-outs (eg, the middle age non-dancers with less than a flat stomach).  Smart .... I'm tempted ... it would be a good bonding trip and a way to "relive" my twenties and pretend I was dancer.  Sadly I cannot dance worth a lick.

[ShellyB]

23 minutes ago, tobeyoungagain said:

Seriously?  that's kind of brilliant ... they're basically going to make money off of women who are part of the bloopers they make fun of during try-outs (eg, the middle age non-dancers with less than a flat stomach).  Smart .... I'm tempted ... it would be a good bonding trip and a way to "relive" my twenties and pretend I was dancer.  Sadly I cannot dance worth a lick.

I don’t know how much dancing there will be, more experiences....i.e. health/nutrition, fashion, makeup/hair and some sort of dance class. It’s all still in discussion. 

[tajalexander]

( I feel awkward posting this so close to Shelly.. lmao DON'T LOOK)

I'm just going to stick this here and wait to be yelled at. This season, I could have honestly cut.... 

Tess, Jessika, Chantal (WAY too under the radar when others get called out for the same thing), Yuko (if you look at the Instagram videos of her on the end of the kickline for HOF, she could have toppled the whole line over), and all the TCC's except Kalyssa, Keyra, and Lauren. 

I hate saying this..... but I would have cut Jenna too. It's beyond clear that she's there because she's a fantastic dancer & not because K&J necessarily enjoy her presence. It's actually starting to become hard to watch. But if we are just talking performance and dance ability, I would keep her. (and put her back in the front)..

I can strategically see why they kept Christina. It inspires girls to go get more dance training and re-audition even stronger. If they picked NONE of the comeback girls this season, that would have spoken more volumes. I don't think Christina would have returned if she was cut this year, especially so late in the game. She hasn't impressed me once this season, but I -do- like her haircut so that's a plus. 

Flashforward to present: Where the hell has Khalyn been? I feel like she's suspended and it's making my heart hurt. 

[KittykatRN]

@ShellyB- What happened to Erica? There's no story or explanation on what happened to her considering she was the original Group Leader for her group via old Instagram posts.  You see her in the show here and there at rehearsals and during the tour at the HOF game.  What happened to her?

[HowdeeDo]

21 minutes ago, KittykatRN said:

@ShellyB- What happened to Erica? There's no story or explanation on what happened to her considering she was the original Group Leader for her group via old Instagram posts.  You see her in the show here and there at rehearsals and during the tour at the HOF game.  What happened to her?

It’s likely not going to be discussed, but word is she was drinking at the Hall of Fame game and posted it on Snapchat. She gets cut regardless of whatever happened. 

2 hours ago, tajalexander said:

I can strategically see why they kept Christina. It inspires girls to go get more dance training and re-audition even stronger. If they picked NONE of the comeback girls this season, that would have spoken more volumes. I don't think Christina would have returned if she was cut this year, especially so late in the game. She hasn't impressed me once this season, but I -do- like her haircut so that's a 

I don’t think keeping her when it’s obvious she’s not strong enough sends any message. I’m sure they’ll portray it like that, but we’ve already seen otherwise in pics and videos of the game. She’s probably the last in the group or ‘pitty DCC/One and done‘ girls in the last several years. Can’t kick, can’t split, not photogenic, stale personality, etc. This is the most confusing decision since the show started imo.

[aeroluv327]

12 hours ago, dnzkzy said:

Splits in general : Tasha -third from the left turned and rolled outward in her hip( means she can’t fully get into split position), rookie second from the right  (turned inward again cant fully get into split), rookie Miranda in dead center - right leg sickeled and foot turned in-girl you are dead center ! Then there is chunk a munk on right end ; left knee bent up and turned in- she is right behind the knees and not flexible.  All basic Dance knowledge but all three ladies make the best of da best ...seriously Judy and Kelly ? Thought you knew Dance

Miranda had some kind of hip/hamstring injury, it happened the first time they did jump splits.  She actually goes to my chiropractor, he posted a picture of her in a full split right before the team was announced, he said it was the first time in months she'd been able to do it.

[mayelynn]

13 hours ago, PBSLover said:

That picture is hilarious.  Look at her arms!  

I know!!! I just thought the caption should read "Look at me!! I'm awesome!!! (Looks to her right...) Oh..."

[DCC.Style.fan]

I have to say, I am feeling the heartbreak now. Before I found this forum I would not know any behind the scenes info, because I do not follow any of them on SM. Erica had been one of my favorite DCC of all time. I had her at point for sure this year because even though Jenna has 2 more years in seniority, Erica had the best personality and showmanship as well as camera presence, and I believe that if there had been no injury and she was healthy enough to dance strong all year, she would have been blocked for point, not Jenna. I am surprised at what is most likely the situation regarding her being released. She never struck me as someone who would make bad decisions as what has been said about the reason for her release.  I am thinking if I had never read anything on here and had just watched the episodes like the past 9 years, that I would be shocked out of my mind about Holly, I loved her rookie year, and did pick up on a little diva mentality the next season but I still enjoyed watching her.  If I watched this show without knowing anything I had read on here,  I would probably be writing CMT about Erica. I was never a huge Amy Reese fan so honestly even though I had watched season 5 and seen a few glimpses of her, I literally didn't pay any attention to her disappearing at the end on not being on the squad in 2010. This year I would have been excited about Erica being highlighted at show group auditions, (not knowing she had been injured) and seeing her as group leader as she had originally been chosen and just seeing her in general as an upper vet. So, not seeing her in the episodes but a mere half a second shot would have been a shock and if she had just been injured and that is it, they would have mentioned it in the show. I cant imagine what J and K have had to deal with in putting together this years squad and the show. I bet Jenna had been hoping to be point as soon as Erica was placed on injured reserve and seeing Kashara do so well there made her nervous that she would not be placed there after HOF. I agree 100 percent with Kellis comments to her at the meeting. She has been the wrong kind of example as a leader.  What caring about the team means is that you must THINK before you make decisions that could affect the squad and knowing the rules, the risk and the outcome of being pulled from performances, games or being cut, affects the teams formations and the trust that they place in you as a leader.  I cannot stand entitlement and self-centered mentality and that is not something that creates a one time bad impulsive decision but speaks volumes about one's character. 6 years is plenty of time to develop maturity and team focused mentality. Jenna as a 6 year vet had an opportunity to be such an example and even have more involvement after retiring.  I will admit I made dumb choices in my 20s and got in trouble too, but I was the one who suffered consequences, no one else.  I think character and integrity is more valuable than dance skills and beauty and there is no excuse for any of these vets to to make such poo poo decisions.  -  I am fired up right now and dont want to use the words I am thinking.  Anyway I am curious what the next few episodes are about.  There should be 2 or 3 more.  I read that there were 13 so I hope the squad announcement AND first game or two are in it and the last one or two can be on the entire squad experiencing an event or show like this episode with the HOF.  I have noticed many people have enjoyed this episode even though several vets are not there.

[klh25]

2 minutes ago, DCCroutineFAN said:

I have to say, I am feeling the heartbreak now. Before I found this forum I would not know any behind the scenes info, because I do not follow any of them on SM. Erica had been one of my favorite DCC of all time. I had her at point for sure this year because even though Jenna has 2 more years in seniority, Erica had the best personality and showmanship as well as camera presence, and I believe that if there had been no injury and she was healthy enough to dance strong all year, she would have been blocked for point, not Jenna. I am surprised at what is most likely the situation regarding her being released. She never struck me as someone who would make bad decisions as what has been said about the reason for her release.  I am thinking if I had never read anything on here and had just watched the episodes like the past 9 years, that I would be shocked out of my mind about Holly, I loved her rookie year, and did pick up on a little diva mentality the next season but I still enjoyed watching her.  If I watched this show without knowing anything I had read on here,  I would probably be writing CMT about Erica. I was never a huge Amy Reese fan so honestly even though I had watched season 5 and seen a few glimpses of her, I literally didn't pay any attention to her disappearing at the end on not being on the squad in 2010. This year I would have been excited about Erica being highlighted at show group auditions, (not knowing she had been injured) and seeing her as group leader as she had originally been chosen and just seeing her in general as an upper vet. So, not seeing her in the episodes but a mere half a second shot would have been a shock and if she had just been injured and that is it, they would have mentioned it in the show. I cant imagine what J and K have had to deal with in putting together this years squad and the show. I bet Jenna had been hoping to be point as soon as Erica was placed on injured reserve and seeing Kashara do so well there made her nervous that she would not be placed there after HOF. I agree 100 percent with Kellis comments to her at the meeting. She has been the wrong kind of example as a leader.  What caring about the team means is that you must THINK before you make decisions that could affect the squad and knowing the rules, the risk and the outcome of being pulled from performances, games or being cut, affects the teams formations and the trust that they place in you as a leader.  I cannot stand entitlement and self-centered mentality and that is not something that creates a one time bad impulsive decision but speaks volumes about one's character. 6 years is plenty of time to develop maturity and team focused mentality. Jenna as a 6 year vet had an opportunity to be such an example and even have more involvement after retiring.  I will admit I made dumb choices in my 20s and got in trouble too, but I was the one who suffered consequences, no one else.  I think character and integrity is more valuable than dance skills and beauty and there is no excuse for any of these vets to to make such poo poo decisions.  -  I am fired up right now and dont want to use the words I am thinking.  Anyway I am curious what the next few episodes are about.  There should be 2 or 3 more.  I read that there were 13 so I hope the squad announcement AND first game or two are in it and the last one or two can be on the entire squad experiencing an event or show like this episode with the HOF.  I have noticed many people have enjoyed this episode even though several vets are not there.

I'm almost wondering if Erica's bad behavior was a result of them sticking Kashara at point after Jenna was pulled?  I'm sure she might have been salty about the Holly/Jenna situation, but wondering if that was the exclamation point.

[parrotfeathers]

I don't know if Christina is a good or bad dancer.  But I think they kept her because she brings some maturity to the group.  And she works to improve herself on every negative comment given on her performance or lack thereof.   And she seems to know it isn't all about her.   I don't compare her to Natalie Woods at all, but Natalie also brought something to DCC that year even though she wasn't the best dancer.

I am glad there is no Gina hate this week.  I like her too.

In general I think I like everyone this week!  Even though I woke up to doggie poo on the entry rug!

[bigskygirl]

If you are upset because your friend was not point girl after breaking the rules causes you to break a rule yourself, you should be cut from the team. These girls are not ten years old. Time to grow up! Seniority is all fine and dandy, but a girl should not be expected to be point girl, make Show Group or picking certain appearances because you think you are entitled to it after breaking the rules more than once or turning down appearances, or wanting to be in Show Group to go on USO appearances because you want to be with your friends. They know the score when they sign the contract. It is not pick and choose what I want to do, or I can break all the rules I want because I have seniority crap.

[gnesty]

I like Christina and it can't be easy for her to hear all the time what she is NOT doing but yet she is on the squad.  They gave Kelsey a chance and it worked out.  I just have a soft spot for the underdogs lol

[ShellyB]

1 hour ago, KittykatRN said:

@ShellyB- What happened to Erica? There's no story or explanation on what happened to her considering she was the original Group Leader for her group via old Instagram posts.  You see her in the show here and there at rehearsals and during the tour at the HOF game.  What happened to her?

Moving on.....

[Moxiejan]

15 hours ago, Teresa said:

Looks like they're cutting the Erica stuff completely from the show entirely. Like "nothing to see here...move along!" 

I did catch a quick glimpse or two of Erica in her warm up suit at HOF and then again, back at The Star sitting on the ground at one point. But it doesn't look as though they are going to show her getting cut next week at all. So annoying that they're just going to pretend it's not happening. 

Kelly's comments AGAIN this week gave an exact count of how many are remaining (38) & that the squad needs to get to 36; she has made no attempt to be vague about numbers in an attempt to keep TV viewers in the dark. So I do think that there will be at least a mention that a veteran has had to leave the squad due to a long-term injury, with perhaps a bit of video of Erica. 

[klh25]

1 minute ago, Moxiejan said:

Kelly's comments AGAIN this week gave an exact count of how many are remaining (38) & that the squad needs to get to 36; she has made no attempt to be vague about numbers in an attempt to keep TV viewers in the dark. So I do think that there will be at least a mention that a veteran has had to leave the squad due to a long-term injury, with perhaps a bit of video of Erica. 

Seems that is the least they could do...so much for reality. 

[klh25]

Going back and reading last years bios is interesting....Holly wants a job in entertainment, Erica-motivational Christian author and speaker.  Maybe that is why her story just disappeared. 

[LadyMsJay]

22 minutes ago, Moxiejan said:

Kelly's comments AGAIN this week gave an exact count of how many are remaining (38) & that the squad needs to get to 36; she has made no attempt to be vague about numbers in an attempt to keep TV viewers in the dark. So I do think that there will be at least a mention that a veteran has had to leave the squad due to a long-term injury, with perhaps a bit of video of Erica. 

That would be nice, but that's not happening unfortunately.

[NMDD43]

Last night's episode... Anyone else pause it a few times hoping to catch a glimpse of Erica drinking in the stands? ?

They literally spent so much time during the episode saying that Christina is not good enough (bad kicks, bad splits, not very photogenic, no figure, etc). How and WHY did she make the team?!? 

And Jenna. Oh my. How she can hold her head up around those rookies and fellow vets is astonishing. She must have one hell of an ego or is literally that desperate to stay on the team. I feel like none of them can possibly take her seriously at this point. She's embarrased herself so badly, it's quite sad. Especially for a six-year veteran.

Jenna: "I'm happy for Kashara, I even told her that!". Yep, that just confirmed my thought that her hugging Kashara in last week's episode was so fake. 

I can't believe K&J have not shown her the door.

Edited October 13, 2017 by NMDD43

[HowdeeDo]

I wish 36 wasn’t some magic number they HAVE to have. I get formations, budget, groups etc, but more often than not there’s been 37-39, and then 34 that one year. Even though they lost some vets, doesn’t mean take in mediocre rookies to make 36. Savannah and Christina are blah. 

Edited October 13, 2017 by HowdeeDo
Math is hard

[bigskygirl]

I think the smallest teams since the show started was Season Five and Six with 34 girls and the largest were Season 7 and 8 with 39 girls.

[HowdeeDo]

12 minutes ago, bigskygirl said:

I think the smallest teams since the show started was Season Five and Six with 34 girls and the largest were Season 7 and 8 with 39 girls.

Yeah I couldn’t math earlier ?

Girls I wouldn’t shed a tear if they retired:

Christina, Jenna, Jessika, Miranda, Savannah, Selina, Simone, Yuko. 

[klh25]

41 minutes ago, HowdeeDo said:

Yeah I couldn’t math earlier ?

Girls I wouldn’t shed a tear if they retired:

Christina, Jenna, Jessika, Miranda, Savannah, Selina, Simone, Yuko. 

I still love Jenna.  I really like Savannah and I have a soft spot for former Strutters Selina and Jessika. 

[Moxiejan]

1 hour ago, LadyMsJay said:

That would be nice, but that's not happening unfortunately.

How is it that we know that her departure won't be mentioned? All we know is that she has been largely edited out so far. That doesn't mean that Kelli can magically get from 38 to 36 by making just one televised cut. Something about the second exit has to be said, even if it's just "a veteran got injured, so we're down to 36."

[NMDD43]

15 hours ago, MssdDrms said:

It's like Jessika is saying..."Ta-Da!!!  look at me...see my belly touch my knee!!"  Cause it looks like it does!  Can anyone say TRAINWRECK??

I am dying at this and the "chunk a munk" comment above. Tears are literally coming out of my eyes ???

[klh25]

6 minutes ago, Moxiejan said:

How is it that we know that her departure won't be mentioned? All we know is that she has been largely edited out so far. That doesn't mean that Kelli can magically get from 38 to 36 by making just one televised cut. Something about the second exit has to be said, even if it's just "a veteran got injured, so we're down to 36."

They have taken special care to make sure Erica doesn't exist...by name or camera shots, it sure seems it is going to pass like nothing ever happened.

[ElenaFR]

2 hours ago, gnesty said:

I like Christina and it can't be easy for her to hear all the time what she is NOT doing but yet she is on the squad.  They gave Kelsey a chance and it worked out.  I just have a soft spot for the underdogs lol

But Kelsey is hot, ha!  And has beautiful kicks and when she gets the dance, she has fun/sexy showmanship.

I feel like we need a Kitty moment and start cutting 6-8 ladies. So many are just blah and forgettable. 

[MssdDrms]

1 hour ago, NMDD43 said:

I am dying at this and the "chunk a munk" comment above. Tears are literally coming out of my eyes ???

The chunk a munk comment put me on the floor!  ROFL!!

[Moxiejan]

1 hour ago, klh25 said:

They have taken special care to make sure Erica doesn't exist...by name or camera shots, it sure seems it is going to pass like nothing ever happened.

They obviously have back-edited to diminish her, but she still was shown in the background several times. And Kelli has repeatedly kept the audience aware of the "number count." Clearly, it has been decided to play up Jenna/Holly & play down Erica. But Kelli simply can't make one cut and then announce that the 38 have become 36. The departure of one more has to be addressed in some way, even if with only a 10-second announcement.

[WaterSpirit]

I am going to throw a vote in for Simone. She is quite beautiful, and appears to enjoy being a vet. We just don't get to see the vets enough, but more so this year, for which I am quite happy.  Maybe they can change title of show  to Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders, Making and Staying on the Team...?

[ATLGirl]

So "moving on" are the final words on Erica. 

 

I'll take that as an affirmation that this situation "Reesed" and got litigious so will never be addressed on the show. 

 

I've been rooting for Christina for a long time. But when all that you have going for you seems to be your ability to be a good team player and a great haircut...I'm not as sure as I have been.

 

On the bright side, all the dancing in last night's episode was fantastic. It's like they saved it up all season for one episode. 

[mmm]

Did you guys some videos from last week for group 4 Kashara's formerly Erica's group? They are so undermaned with Erica gone and Simone injured they are doing this weird looking formation. It's kinda of mess. 

Edited October 13, 2017 by mmm

[CaseyRe]

9 hours ago, tajalexander said:

( I feel awkward posting this so close to Shelly.. lmao DON'T LOOK)

I'm just going to stick this here and wait to be yelled at. This season, I could have honestly cut.... 

Tess, Jessika, Chantal (WAY too under the radar when others get called out for the same thing), Yuko (if you look at the Instagram videos of her on the end of the kickline for HOF, she could have toppled the whole line over), and all the TCC's except Kalyssa, Keyra, and Lauren. 

I hate saying this..... but I would have cut Jenna too. It's beyond clear that she's there because she's a fantastic dancer & not because K&J necessarily enjoy her presence. It's actually starting to become hard to watch. But if we are just talking performance and dance ability, I would keep her. (and put her back in the front)..

I can strategically see why they kept Christina. It inspires girls to go get more dance training and re-audition even stronger. If they picked NONE of the comeback girls this season, that would have spoken more volumes. I don't think Christina would have returned if she was cut this year, especially so late in the game. She hasn't impressed me once this season, but I -do- like her haircut so that's a plus. 

Flashforward to present: Where the hell has Khalyn been? I feel like she's suspended and it's making my heart hurt. 

THIS
When Kelli said "You're lucky to still be a part of the triangle" I was sitting here going 'YOURE LUCKY TO STILL BE PART OF THE TEAM!"  I would love to say I can't believe she text about if she was getting point back, but I can. Wowza. and then when she said she should have worded it differently nad Kelli shut it down with 'you shouldn' have had it at all' Jenna's face...she knows the writing is on the wall. this is her last year.  girl needs to move on

[kerrieway]

55 minutes ago, ATLGirl said:

So "moving on" are the final words on Erica. 

 

I'll take that as an affirmation that this situation "Reesed" and got litigious so will never be addressed on the show. 

I don't know why but I'm proud of Erica...clearly she screwed up but good to know the girls got some bite to go with that bark, she won't let them clown her on TV. 

I think she's got a bright future, fighters always do.

Erica 1 MTT 0

Edited October 14, 2017 by kerrieway

[MrsEVH]

8 minutes ago, CaseyRe said:

THIS
When Kelli said "You're lucky to still be a part of the triangle" I was sitting here going 'YOURE LUCKY TO STILL BE PART OF THE TEAM!"  I would love to say I can't believe she text about if she was getting point back, but I can. Wowza. and then when she said she should have worded it differently nad Kelli shut it down with 'you shouldn' have had it at all' Jenna's face...she knows the writing is on the wall. this is her last year.  girl needs to move on

I think Jenna is done after this year.  Maybe we'll see her auditioning for other teams next year.

[KickPretty]

9 hours ago, tajalexander said:

I hate saying this..... but I would have cut Jenna too. It's beyond clear that she's there because she's a fantastic dancer & not because K&J necessarily enjoy her presence. It's actually starting to become hard to watch. But if we are just talking performance and dance ability, I would keep her. (and put her back in the front).

Awwwww.  It’s sad, but me too.  At the very least she should no longer be a GL, maybe a 2nd.  She’s a great dancer, but the leadership skills aren’t up to par.  I really like her too.  She’s so much fun to watch dance, I love when she posts dancing videos from the classes she attends on IG.

[Java]

31 minutes ago, ATLGirl said:

So "moving on" are the final words on Erica. 

I'm hoping against hope that they will still address her cut, and not with the watered-down version of Kelli doing a talking head about her injury.  I don't care how big of a tantrum Erica threw, she signed multiple contracts and multiple waivers, and there is EVIDENCE.  Don't play if you can't pay.  Also, using 'injury' as the reason may actually do more damage to her career than being cut for breaking rules. Who wants to hire a dancer with back/neck issues that could be a liability going forward? 

I'll take that as an affirmation that this situation "Reesed" and got litigious so will never be addressed on the show. 

Excuse my rant here please, but I'll be so disappointed if Charlotte lets her get away with being a twit when she clearly was in the wrong. Charlotte has refused to approve taking girls into camp for speeding tickets occurring years prior to auditioning because that wasn't acceptable behavior. If she lets an actual DCC who knows better(!) bury her rule-breaking, risk-taking behavior committed on the job?  I'll be embarrassed for her. They are the Dallas-Freakin-Cowboys for pete's sake, and they have the sharpest shark attorney's in Texas - Use 'em! She doesn't have a leg to stand on. 

I've been rooting for Christina for a long time. But when all that you have going for you seems to be your ability to be a good team player and a great haircut...I'm not as sure as I have been.

I was rooting for her too, and she does look a bit better appearance and performance-wise than she did previous years, but she still isn't up to DCC standards. I'm surprised they haven't Loni'd her yet.

On the bright side, all the dancing in last night's episode was fantastic. It's like they saved it up all season for one episode. 

I thought the same thing, lol!  Absolutely loved all of the rehearsal's they've shown, and I love that they're actually showing the girls what they're seeing. It has to be easier for the ladies to SEE what the issues are, rather than try to interpret a description. 

I will say that the tower over the field would freak me out walking to the edge to watch the practices.  Apparently neither Kelli or Judy are afraid of heights, lol.

[bigskygirl]

I do not think they would cut a girl over injuries even if the doctors were saying no dancing until healing is completed. Brooke and Cassie both had injuries before TC and during TC, and they both were allowed to stay on the team while healing. Erica could have been sent out on appearances while healing. I also do not see a dancer with back/neck injuries as a possible liability down the road. I was working at one place where I had to do some heavy lifting at times, and I injured my back years before getting hired. I did end up reinjuring my back and neck and had to quit because I could not handle the job anymore due to lifting requirements.  My former employer was willing to hire me back, but my physical therapist and the specialist worker's comp sent me to said no way. My husband's employer did  not see his kidney transplant a liability when he went back to work eight weeks after he got a new kidney. He has to be careful and makes sure he follows his doctors' advice and orders, and he has missed less days due to illness than most of the people he works with.

Edited October 14, 2017 by bigskygirl

[NMDD43]

34 minutes ago, Java said:

1 hour ago, ATLGirl said:

So "moving on" are the final words on Erica. 

I'm hoping against hope that they will still address her cut, and not with the watered-down version of Kelli doing a talking head about her injury.  I don't care how big of a tantrum Erica threw, she signed multiple contracts and multiple waivers, and there is EVIDENCE.  Don't play if you can't pay.  Also, using 'injury' as the reason may actually do more damage to her career than being cut for breaking rules. Who wants to hire a dancer with back/neck issues that could be a liability going forward? 

I'll take that as an affirmation that this situation "Reesed" and got litigious so will never be addressed on the show. 

Excuse my rant here please, but I'll be so disappointed if Charlotte lets her get away with being a twit when she clearly was in the wrong. Charlotte has refused to approve taking girls into camp for speeding tickets occurring years prior to auditioning because that wasn't acceptable behavior. If she lets an actual DCC who knows better(!) bury her rule-breaking, risk-taking behavior committed on the job?  I'll be embarrassed for her. They are the Dallas-Freakin-Cowboys for pete's sake, and they have the sharpest shark attorney's in Texas - Use 'em! She doesn't have a leg to stand on. 

 

I am having a hard time understanding the legal aspect of this too. What power can Erica possibly have over the organization and CMT to have them not air her cut, or even mention it? Like you said, they sign all kinds of releases and paperwork, so what could she possibly say to get them to ignore it? Plenty of girls have been portrayed poorly on the show and there wasn't a damn thing they could do about it. So why Erica? It's not like she just lucked out and CMT decided not to show it. Her kind of drama is what reality tv execs drool over. Then on social media she pushes this bible-scripture-goody-goody stuff.... something just isn't adding up. I understand that Kelli (being an executive producer on the show according to peeps on here) would not want all the drama shown because it makes them look bad, but not addressing it all all, in my opinion, makes them look worse and causes a lot of speculation, rumors, and negative attention that otherwise may not have happened.

[RazzleberryPie]

9 minutes ago, NMDD43 said:

I am having a hard time understanding the legal aspect of this too. What power can Erica possibly have over the organization and CMT to have them not air her cut, or even mention it? Like you said, they sign all kinds of releases and paperwork, so what could she possibly say to get them to ignore it? Plenty of girls have been portrayed poorly on the show and there wasn't a damn thing they could do about it. So why Erica? It's not like she just lucked out and CMT decided not to show it. Her kind of drama is what reality tv execs drool over. Then on social media she pushes this bible-scripture-goody-goody stuff.... something just isn't adding up. I understand that Kelli (being an executive producer on the show according to peeps on here) would not want all the drama shown because it makes them look bad, but not addressing it all all, in my opinion, makes them look worse and causes a lot of speculation, rumors, and negative attention that otherwise may not have happened.

Erica has no grounds for litigation/power over them.

I took @ShellyB's 'moving on' simply as they don't want to talk about it, so they're not. DCC/CMT don't owe us anything in regards to what story arcs they choose.

We got plenty of drama with Holly and Jenna. Maybe icing Erica out is the final gift to her, or the final insult. 

[sleepyjean]

9 hours ago, HowdeeDo said:

I don’t think keeping her when it’s obvious she’s not strong enough sends any message. I’m sure they’ll portray it like that, but we’ve already seen otherwise in pics and videos of the game.

Yes, but isn't that position based on the assumption that most fans are searching online for those pics and videos of the games? And then scrutinizing them when they see them? Most viewers of this show aren't super fans. They aren't on this forum or following all of the DCC on social media year round. When they see the occasional photo, they may notice if someone has gained weight or their hair looks different, but they're not studying the photos and noticing when a line is a little off or someone is slightly out of sync. CMT can show someone like Christina struggling all through training camp, and then see her make the team and have warm fuzzies that she's such a nice girl and look how her hard work is rewarded. It's a totally believable story if you are looking elsewhere to see the contradictions.

8 hours ago, parrotfeathers said:

I don't know if Christina is a good or bad dancer.  But I think they kept her because she brings some maturity to the group.  And she works to improve herself on every negative comment given on her performance or lack thereof.   And she seems to know it isn't all about her.  

I agree with this. You need some stable, reliable, low key, hard working girls, who go with the program, follow instructions, and set a good example. They aren't the showiest, or the most attention-grabbing, but they are the glue that makes the team work. If 3 girls are in the front triangle, that means 33 aren't. If two girls are in the ads for the show, 34 aren't. Someone - a lot of someones - are always going to be in the back row.  You need those back row girls. It's never going to be 36 Hollys or 36 Jennas, nor would I want to see that.

7 hours ago, HowdeeDo said:

I wish 36 wasn’t some magic number they HAVE to have. I get formations, budget, groups etc, but more often than not there’s been 37-39, and then 34 that one year. Even though they lost some vets, doesn’t mean take in mediocre rookies to make 36. Savannah and Christina are blah. 

I think you just disproved your own point though. It isn't a number they have to have, right?  Because as you pointed out, they often don't have 36. Nobody forced them to have Christina or Savannah on the team.

3 hours ago, ATLGirl said:

So "moving on" are the final words on Erica. 

I'll take that as an affirmation that this situation "Reesed" and got litigious so will never be addressed on the show.

...or Shelly is just respecting Erica's privacy and perhaps her own nondisclosure agreement. Whether Erica was cut or left voluntarily, isn't Shelly's business to tell.

I know a lot of people (I'm not talking about you specifically) feel like because this is a reality show, the fans are "owed" an explanation of everything they don't understand, but that's not the case. I think they owe us a good story. But I don't think that just because a business gives the public a 13-hour peek behind the curtain, that every decision they make has to be transparent to the viewers. At the end of the day, this is a private business and these women's private lives.

2 hours ago, kerrieway said:

I think she's got a bright future, fighters always do.

Erica 1 MTT 0

Maybe I'm being dense, but what kind of fighting did she do? I admit I haven't seen the last two episodes. Did I miss something significant?

1 hour ago, NMDD43 said:

I am having a hard time understanding the legal aspect of this too. What power can Erica possibly have over the organization and CMT to have them not air her cut, or even mention it? Like you said, they sign all kinds of releases and paperwork, so what could she possibly say to get them to ignore it? Plenty of girls have been portrayed poorly on the show and there wasn't a damn thing they could do about it.

I don't think that the fact that is isn't shown is necessarily proof of coercion/litigation/blackmail/insert other shadowy conspiracy theory. It's totally possible they simply chose not to show it and that they may have chosen not to show when whats-her-name got released after the calendar shoot in the earlier seasons. Not every story can or will be told. It's not in their best interest to tell every story. Part of promoting this team's brand is to show that this is hard work and it isn't all butterflies and rainbows, but they also want this to be seen as an admirable, aspirational, amazing, unique experience. You show too much drama, and it just starts to look like a big old mess, and then that's what people focus on - who slept with who, who got fired, who broke the rules, as opposed to "look how hard these women work, and aren't they amazing?"

Edited October 14, 2017 by sleepyjean

[kerrieway]

6 minutes ago, sleepyjean said:

Maybe I'm being dense, but what kind of fighting did she do? I admit I haven't seen the last two episodes. Did I miss something significant?

It's not shown on the show, from what I've gathered from the board it's suggested Erica threatened to sue if she was shown being fired for allegedly drinking at the HOF event and so she's been edited out of the season.  

[Moxiejan]

7 minutes ago, sleepyjean said:

I don't think that the fact that is isn't shown is necessarily proof of coercion. It's totally possible they simply chose not to show it and that they may have chosen not to show when whats-her-name got released after the calendar shoot in the earlier seasons. Part of promoting this team's brand is to show that this is hard work and it isn't all butterflies and rainbows, but they also want this to be seen as an admirable, aspirational experience. You show too much drama, and it just starts to look like a big old mess, and then that's what people focus on - who slept with who, who got fired, who broke the rules, as opposed to "look how hard these women work, and aren't they amazing?"

 

Agree; it's entirely possible that initially, Erica's struggles with injury WERE a part of this season's story line (remember that the closed captioning did have her announced as GL), but then the Jenna/Holly "big old mess" came along and the CMT producers decided to make more time for that by editing out Erica. We'll just have to wait & see how this all plays out in the final episodes.