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Java

Here Holly let me fix that quote for you: A real woman takes responsibility and moves on with class and grace. A little girl makes passive aggressive quotes on her sm because she's thirsty.

Silverleaf
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Yeah so do I ?     Actually I don't have a clue but I hate posts like that. If you're not going to say why post at all?

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ShellyB

2017 GLs are: Jenna & Amy Jinelle & Bess Lacey & Robin KaShara & Heather O All the groups have been reset so there are 9 in each group. 36 DCC on the team anno

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11 hours ago, McKinezeInFloMnd said:

Just wanted to touch base on people who are claiming that the Dallas Cowboys are hypocritical in their actions on the alleged Holly and Zeke situation.

1. They are called the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders, this a is a subset of the Dallas Cowboys. The football team is not called "Dallas Cheerleaders Football Team" 

2. Fans go to ATT Stadium to see the Dallas Cowboys, they don't go in masses to see the DCC and casually watch the football game. 

3. Zeke can do something at a professional level that maybe only 5 other people on this Earth of 7.5 Billion people can do. 

4. I'm pretty sure there are thousands of dancers on this earth at a higher skill level than Holly.

5. Zeke brings in revenue to the Dallas Cowboys. indirectly via Jersey sales and his performance on the field.

6. Holly does not bring in revenue whatsoever to the Dallas Cowboys. 

MIC DROP. BLESS. 

9 hours ago, FanInFrisco said:

- Holly was kicked off the team for fraternizing with players

- Holly was caught drinking while underage with Dak, Zeke, and Jenna at a club.  Oh and she is/was dating and sleeping with Zeke 

- Holly is also a brat and has the attitude of a diva  

- Holly made the biggest mistake of her life and completely blew it

I find it funny and sad how so many people here are quick to cast judgment on a 20 year old girl for making a mistake.  Not to mention that many posters on this forum are stating that they "heard" she was seen hanging out and drinking at a club with Dak and Zeke. And if she's drinking with Zeke, she's obviously now dating and sleeping with him.  WOW!!! Really people?  Dating and sleeping with Zeke?  How do you know this?  Are you a friend of hers?  Did you see it with your own eyes?  Do you have photo or video evidence?  Again, no! You heard it from someone who is supposedly close to the organization or a "friend."   In my world, that is called hearsay.  In the real world, it's called BS.  I also hate to break it to you all, underage drinking is not that big of a deal.  Millions of people do it and police issue citations for that.  Yes, I know it's still illegal but it could have been worse.  Heck, some of the old DCC have done way worse and they stayed on the team.  A google search will enlighten you.  

 

Did anyone else say Holly and Zeke, Jenna and Dak, were all at the club at the same time, underage drinking. No. 

Two seperate hookups. Only Holly is underage. Illegal and against her contract even if everybody does it.

Common knowledge in Dallas that Holly/Zeke drank, smoked, hooked up. She's just some cheerleader he banged. 

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McKinezeInFloMnd

McKinezeInFloMnd

This is kinda on the "fraternization" subject for Training Camp, I'm just curious because her name has been brought up. 

It's concerning former DCC Paige - 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't she a rookie in Season 8 of MTT, and made a statement about just getting married to a US Marine right before Training Camp started, but she now is dating Jeff Heath of the Cowboys. Huh?

Since I don't know the answer to this. Was her husband tragically killed in combat serving our country or did she get a divorce or cheated on him with Jeff Heath? If she cheated on her US Marine husband while he was deployed with Jeff Heath, going out on a limb here, but that's probably not a good storyline for MTT,  the Cowboys Franchise and the CMT demographic audience. No wonder we didn't see that focused on MTT. 

DCCFanInKy

DCCFanInKy

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11 minutes ago, MrsEVH said:

Did the cmt preview video with Holly in the office get deleted? I can't find it.

I can't find it either.  Not on here or CMT.com..

I hope this works.  Right now it's playing a commercial for me.

http://www.cmt.com/video-clips/jdcepk/dallas-cowboys-cheerleaders-making-the-team-ep-1209-sneak-peek-getting-ready-for-demi

ETA this is ONLY the Demi Lovato (sp?) part of the episode.  Nothing about anything else happening in the episode airing tonight.

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Found preview on website
NMDD43

NMDD43

14 hours ago, FanInFrisco said:

Hello.  I am a fan of the show but finally took to the net and found this forum after seeing the teaser for tomorrow's episode to find out what's going on with Holly.  After reading all the posts on the subject, all I have to say is "DAMN!"  This is what I've learned from reading posts on this forum.  

 

- Holly was kicked off the team for fraternizing with players

- Holly was caught drinking while underage with Dak, Zeke, and Jenna at a club.  Oh and she is/was dating and sleeping with Zeke 

- Holly is also a brat and has the attitude of a diva  

- Holly made the biggest mistake of her life and completely blew it

 

I find it funny and sad how so many people here are quick to cast judgment on a 20 year old girl for making a mistake.  Not to mention that many posters on this forum are stating that they "heard" she was seen hanging out and drinking at a club with Dak and Zeke. And if she's drinking with Zeke, she's obviously now dating and sleeping with him.  WOW!!! Really people?  Dating and sleeping with Zeke?  How do you know this?  Are you a friend of hers?  Did you see it with your own eyes?  Do you have photo or video evidence?  Again, no! You heard it from someone who is supposedly close to the organization or a "friend."   In my world, that is called hearsay.  In the real world, it's called BS.  I also hate to break it to you all, underage drinking is not that big of a deal.  Millions of people do it and police issue citations for that.  Yes, I know it's still illegal but it could have been worse.  Heck, some of the old DCC have done way worse and they stayed on the team.  A google search will enlighten you.  

 

Most of the negative comments I read are coming from little girls or adult little girls, who obviously have their life so perfectly set and free of mistakes that they can continue to publicly shame a person.  Holly obviously messed up and is now off the team.  They held her to a higher standard.  She knew the rules, she broke them, and it's over.  It's something she has to live with, but it's not nearly the end of the world for her.  The girl has some serious talent and will find something else.  Posters here are painting a picture of a bratty young girl who is sitting in the dark corner of a room, crying her eyes out, and regretting the decisions she made.  I highly doubt that.  Making DCC is definitely a significant accomplishment and has lots of perks, but it's not the end all be all of dance.  In the professional dance world, it's hardly a blip on the radar.  

 

Holly is a 20 year old girl who made a mistake and will continue to make mistakes throughout the course of her life.  It doesn't make her a brat, a slut, or a bad person, it makes her human.  For all the "I will never do this" or "I would never do that" crowd and the rumor millers out there, think before you pass judgement and continue to feed the grinder.  Holly lived a dream for two years.  Which is two years more than the thousands of women out there trying out for a spot on the team and the negative posters here.  

 

I wish her success.

Farewell

#teamholly #teamjenna

No need to reprimand posters on here. We are all on this forum to gossip about the show and post our honest opinions, positive or negative. But thanks for shaming us ( after lecturing us not to shame Holly...) 

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RazzleberryPie

RazzleberryPie

23 minutes ago, McKinezeInFloMnd said:

This is kinda on the "fraternization" subject for Training Camp, I'm just curious because her name has been brought up. 

It's concerning former DCC Paige - 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't she a rookie in Season 8 of MTT, and made a statement about just getting married to a US Marine right before Training Camp started, but she now is dating Jeff Heath of the Cowboys. Huh?

Since I don't know the answer to this. Was her husband tragically killed in combat serving our country or did she get a divorce or cheated on him with Jeff Heath? If she cheated on her US Marine husband while he was deployed with Jeff Heath, going out on a limb here, but that's probably not a good storyline for MTT,  the Cowboys Franchise and the CMT demographic audience. No wonder we didn't see that focused on MTT. 

She divorced her first husband, and we're not sure if it was finalized before she and her current husband started dating, but it was a  pretty quick turnover. 

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HowdeeDo

HowdeeDo

3 minutes ago, tinabee1967 said:

Well, that just blows. ?

Where is the squad photo? I heard it was on Kitty's website, but cannot find it. 

Kitty posted the collage of cameo photos that was released at the friend's and family event, its on her Insta or twitter can't remember. 

Alexandria posted a picture of the official squad photo on her Insta story a few days ago. Check back a few pages to see, someone screenshotted it

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Kristene1

Kristene1

I’ve watched the show for years. I’m one of those that rewatches old seasons, just for fun. I’ve followed these threads through several camps w/o commenting but thought I’d chime in for once, since I love Holly and think she’s incredibly talented and have loved watching her grow as a DCC. It will be interesting to see what happens tonight. I’ve tried to reserve judgement as all I know comes from rumor and gossip. I’m sure there is truth to a lot of what’s out there. But what if Holly was given a choice in the end? After more came out or a combination of things, what if K&J let her choose whether to leave instead of them cutting her? I struggle with, if both she and Jenna were having the same issues last year and given a pass, why the difference in the end this year? And who put out that Holly quit? Where did that rumor start? Forgive my ignorance if that is fact and someone knows for sure, but her face in the promo and her insta posts...I don’t know. I read it different. I just wonder if, she felt she had been treated differently than Jenna. Of course, underage drinking factors in if that’s true. But the other would be equal and that’s what K refers to in the promo. I’d be mad to if I were her. Assuming there was unequal treatment. But I’m assuming. Maybe not and her attitude is as bad as everyone thinks. But when K mentioned her teaching the girls about faces, she looked excited. Invested. I don’t know... maybe I want her to be. 

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MyMomSaysImSpecial

MyMomSaysImSpecial

20 minutes ago, RazzleberryPie said:

She divorced her first husband, and we're not sure if it was finalized before she and her current husband started dating, but it was a  pretty quick turnover. 

Paige and Jeff are not married yet. 

1 minute ago, Kristene1 said:

I’ve watched the show for years. I’m one of those that rewatches old seasons, just for fun. I’ve followed these threads through several camps w/o commenting but thought I’d chime in for once, since I love Holly and think she’s incredibly talented and have loved watching her grow as a DCC. It will be interesting to see what happens tonight. I’ve tried to reserve judgement as all I know comes from rumor and gossip. I’m sure there is truth to a lot of what’s out there. But what if Holly was given a choice in the end? After more came out or a combination of things, what if K&J let her choose whether to leave instead of them cutting her? I struggle with, if both she and Jenna were having the same issues last year and given a pass, why the difference in the end this year? And who put out that Holly quit? Where did that rumor start? Forgive my ignorance if that is fact and someone knows for sure, but her face in the promo and her insta posts...I don’t know. I read it different. I just wonder if, she felt she had been treated differently than Jenna. Of course, underage drinking factors in if that’s true. But the other would be equal and that’s what K refers to in the promo. I’d be mad to if I were her. Assuming there was unequal treatment. But I’m assuming. Maybe not and her attitude is as bad as everyone thinks. But when K mentioned her teaching the girls about faces, she looked excited. Invested. I don’t know... maybe I want her to be. 

From what I heard through the grapevine; Holly was given the option. Quit or be cut. She chose to quit. But who knows; I don’t even care anymore. All that matters now, is that she’s done with the DCC and we all need to move on. 

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PrincessLeia

PrincessLeia

I feel bad for Holly.... she's one of my favorites, or was. I think of all the stupid crap I did in my early twenties, and just thank god social media didn't exist back then. Kids these days have it so much harder.... every stumble you make can be put on Facebook, snap chat, Instagram. It sucks. 

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jadecorleone

jadecorleone

2 minutes ago, PrincessLeia said:

I feel bad for Holly.... she's one of my favorites, or was. I think of all the stupid crap I did in my early twenties, and just thank god social media didn't exist back then. Kids these days have it so much harder.... every stumble you make can be put on Facebook, snap chat, Instagram. It sucks. 

Even more so when the person in question is a public figure.  

I try not to judge too harshly, especially considering some of the nonsense I partook in during my early 20s, but for me it doesnt change the fact that Holly was aware of the rules and she chose to break them. To me if she was given the quit or be fired option, she was lucky in that regard. Most dont get that option.   Even at that age when we are called to account, we play it off so it doesnt sting as much, so we still look good in the eyes of our peers, but its part of the process of growing up. To quote one of my favorites "When you’ve done something wrong admit it and be sorry. No one in history has ever choked to death from swallowing their pride"

But lets see what tonight reveals.

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MrsEVH

MrsEVH

1 hour ago, Kristene1 said:

Hi all. Longtime follower. Firstime poster. Here’s a link that might help. 

Thanks :)

58 minutes ago, HowdeeDo said:

Kitty posted the collage of cameo photos that was released at the friend's and family event, its on her Insta or twitter can't remember. 

Alexandria posted a picture of the official squad photo on her Insta story a few days ago. Check back a few pages to see, someone screenshotted it

Is she the only one who posted it? I'm surprised she didn't get in trouble for leaking it.

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McKinezeInFloMnd

McKinezeInFloMnd

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I wish i knew the timeline of tonight's office visit by Jenna and Holly. What day was it...probably somewhere around July 26th. This is pure speculation on my part, but this was Holly's last Tweet with her official DCC Twitter handle. I honestly believe when K&J saw this tweet, to a former Dallas Cowboys player no less... It was the final nail in the coffin. for her DCC career.

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Glamourdoll

Glamourdoll

56 minutes ago, PrincessLeia said:

I feel bad for Holly.... she's one of my favorites, or was. I think of all the stupid crap I did in my early twenties, and just thank god social media didn't exist back then. Kids these days have it so much harder.... every stumble you make can be put on Facebook, snap chat, Instagram. It sucks. 

Amen! It's bad enough I have pictures of my terrible fashion mistakes and feathered hair. If every dumbass thing I did was out there online for the world to enjoy, my therapy bills would bankrupt me!

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sATL

sATL

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56 minutes ago, McKinezeInFloMnd said:

I wish i knew the timeline of tonight's office visit by Jenna and Holly. What day was it...probably somewhere around July 26th. This is pure speculation on my part, but this was Holly's last Tweet with her official DCC Twitter handle. I honestly believe when K&J saw this tweet, to a former Dallas Cowboys player no less... It was the final nail in the coffin. for her DCC career.

and that's another thing.. why use your work twitter/email/FB/Instagram for personal stuff? That is the one thing young people need to learn work accts is for work and it does not belong to you and can be read/accessed by anyone.  Surely a person can have separate accts - like email allows - one for/by work and one for personal.

she is chatting with this Shaun Smith ? ( link ) 

"Shaun William Smith (born August 19, 1981) is a former American football defensive end. He was signed by the Dallas Cowboys as an undrafted free agent in 2003. He played college football at South Carolina.Smith was also a member of the Arizona Cardinals, New Orleans Saints, Cincinnati Bengals, Cleveland Browns, Detroit Lions, Las Vegas Locomotives, Kansas City Chiefs, and Tennessee Titans. "

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HowdeeDo

HowdeeDo

38 minutes ago, MamaV said:

Does anyone think that the team photo might look messed up because it had to be photoshopped reflect the drama/cut/disciplinary action that occurred around the time it was being taken?

The picture was taken almost a month after all of this went down. Not likely. It's a newer photographer for them, and it's more so just placement being off. 

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CaseyRe

CaseyRe

2 hours ago, McKinezeInFloMnd said:

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I wish i knew the timeline of tonight's office visit by Jenna and Holly. What day was it...probably somewhere around July 26th. This is pure speculation on my part, but this was Holly's last Tweet with her official DCC Twitter handle. I honestly believe when K&J saw this tweet, to a former Dallas Cowboys player no less... It was the final nail in the coffin. for her DCC career.

But tweeting someone who hasn't played professionally in what, over five years, would that really be fraternization with a player? he isn't a player, why would it count?

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CaseyRe

CaseyRe

3 minutes ago, RedDelicious said:

What is the difference between being cut and being forced to quit? Both equal termination that isn't the choice of the TCC. I don't really understand.

I guess its a saving face thing, plus if this is something they put on a resume, then being able to claim you left the position by your own choice (new employers ddon't need to know it was coerced essentially) looks a hell of a lot better than bbeing fired.

Just now, Pinknblue said:

It counts because the tone sounded pretty disrespectful.

but unless its in the contract that tweets must be respectful etc, rather than just not fraternizing with players, then I don't see how it can be used to say she breeched contract. he isn't a player. i know employers can twist things into a corkscrew, but if it were me and that were being held up as proof of contract violation and all the contract says is no fraternizing with players, I'd argue it until blue in the face, regardless of if the tweet tone seems disrespectful (though obv the emojis are intended to make it seem light-hearted regardless of how it may or may not have been taken by Smith)

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DCCFanInKy

DCCFanInKy

4 hours ago, Kristene1 said:

Hi all. Longtime follower. Firstime poster. Here’s a link that might help. 

 

Sounds like Kelli says " do we cut you or suspend you".  As to what actually "happened".....38 minutes.  My gut (when it isn't screaming kidney stone pain) is telling me like I've seen posted here before that she's one of the 2 suspended vets and then either comes back and just flat quits OR goes off on Kelli resulting in her immediate dismissal.

cherryblossom

cherryblossom

9 minutes ago, Jess14 said:

http://hollywoodlife.com/2017/09/28/dallas-cowboys-cheerleaders-sneak-peek-season-12-video/amp/

Has this been posted yet? If so, sorry, but a quick overview of the last page or so made it seem like one the preview had been posted. This is an actual sneak peak of the office visit.

Wow...now she starts lying then the backpedaling and then I really didn't break all of it!  Say What??? I am glad she at least said FINALLY, I don't know what to say.

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McKinezeInFloMnd

McKinezeInFloMnd

29 minutes ago, CaseyRe said:

But tweeting someone who hasn't played professionally in what, over five years, would that really be fraternization with a player? he isn't a player, why would it count?

Good point. The fact she was tweeting with a former Dallas Cowboys player wasn't a factor, more of the tone of the tweet. It's a really awkward exchange with Shaun Smith. It's still up on Twitter to see. Its the now infamous "Holly drops her Pom" video. To Holly's credit, it was a really bizarre initial tweet by Shaun Smith. Her reply was terrible.... note to self, don't tweet emoji's to someone born before 1982, you can tell in Shaun Smith's reply that he was perturbed. I'm assuming this was some junior DCC camp at the Star...Shaun Smith probably has a daughter that might be attending???

CaseyRe

CaseyRe

3 minutes ago, McKinezeInFloMnd said:

Good point. The fact she was tweeting with a former Dallas Cowboys player wasn't a factor, more of the tone of the tweet. It's a really awkward exchange with Shaun Smith. It's still up on Twitter to see. Its the now infamous "Holly drops her Pom" video. To Holly's credit, it was a really bizarre initial tweet by Shaun Smith. Her reply was terrible.... note to self, don't tweet emoji's to someone born before 1982, you can tell in Shaun Smith's reply that he was perturbed. I'm assuming this was some junior DCC camp at the Star...Shaun Smith probably has a daughter that might be attending???

I'm assuming it was the Cowboys Training Camp. the cheerleaders go for it, and I believe it started around 22-23rd July this year, so the timing fits.

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DCC.Style.fan

DCC.Style.fan

Just saw that clip of Holly attempting to snow K and J as you see Judy just looks at her like " Really" I cant believe she would so boldly think she could convince them that she didnt really break all of it.  She did have a severe look of panic though like her deception wheels were spinning in that head!  Amazing

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CaseyRe

CaseyRe

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Y'know what I'm most looking forward to - what if anything Holly posts on insta or her new twitter tonight/tomorrow given the show's contents tonight. she's promoted it in the past few eps, clips of her dancing at auditions etc, but Im wondering if she'll pretend tonights ep doesn't exist

also someone seems to be sending her Tiffany earrings...

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HowdeeDo

HowdeeDo

1 minute ago, CaseyRe said:

Y'know what I'm most looking forward to - what if anything Holly posts on insta or her new twitter tonight/tomorrow given the show's contents tonight. she's promoted it in the past few eps, clips of her dancing at auditions etc, but Im wondering if she'll pretend tonights ep doesn't exist

Feel like she's going to keep quiet for awhile. That's why she's only sticking to insta stories (because no one can comment on them) and comments on her youtube channel are disabled. 

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McKinezeInFloMnd

McKinezeInFloMnd

41 minutes ago, Jess14 said:

http://hollywoodlife.com/2017/09/28/dallas-cowboys-cheerleaders-sneak-peek-season-12-video/amp/

Has this been posted yet? If so, sorry, but a quick overview of the last page or so made it seem like one the preview had been posted. This is an actual sneak peak of the office visit.

Thank you!!

PBSLover

PBSLover

On 9/27/2017 at 2:45 PM, CaseyRe said:

i believe that technically the DCC are a separate entity. most cheerleader squads in the NFL are, its what allows them to get away with paying them peanuts

If one of the many Cowboys publicists sees/hears/reads something about a cheerleader, she will share with the DCC people.  Lots of eyes was what I meant. 

PBSLover

PBSLover

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On 9/27/2017 at 8:02 AM, Glamourdoll said:

I was thinking the clause about fraternization in the contract was to protect the organization from sexual harassment lawsuits or that sort of thing.  It might not even be a K&J thing, but a lawyer thing.

This clause is in every team sport's cheerleader contract and has been since cheerleaders were brought on to pro teams.  I believe it was more about the cheerleader's reputation/the professionalism of the squad over sexual harassment. Sexual harassment wasn’t even a thing in ’60’s/’70’s.

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HowdeeDo

HowdeeDo

1 minute ago, Cheerio34 said:

Wait sooo are they going to address her getting cut?!? 

Next week

Just now, MelTexGirl said:

Ok so based on that episode - did Jenna throw her under the bus or was she a leader too late? 

Leader too late, but it's odd that her own fraternization wasn't mentioned. :/

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