S07.E01: The Day Will Come When You Won't Be

[Mu Shu]

Daryl's hair looks too filthy to me for lice to live in it.  And that's when he's not Daryl but Norman.   

[Zeditious]

18 hours ago, ghoulina said:

Something needs to drag Morgan out of his, "All Life is Precious" psychosis. 

 

Uh-huh. Psychosis.

The depravity that this show wallows in certainly serves a certain segment. Chicken? or Egg?

Morgan is the only redeeming feature of this shitshow left.

After 6+ seasons of repetitive; ever-dumbing; ever-degenerating; ultimately pointless & pathetic crap... Morgan is all that is left. There is no actual creativity wherein the backstory of causation and the plot-development that would facilitate towards resolution is nowhere.

For the overwhelming most part, all that is left is stupid people on their knees (both literally {literally "literally", btw} and figuratively) watching stupid people do and say stupid things.

 

Something needed to be done to drag this show away from the gutter it has now, finally and fully, oozed it's filthy, mucky way into.

Edited October 27, 2016 by Zeditious

[Juliegirlj]

Jeffrey Dean Morgan lost over 40 pounds for a previous role and has not put the weight back on. I read he weighs 170. His portrayal of Negan would be more believable if he were a bit more imposing physically. At some point in Negan's journey he would have had to be able to back up all that bravado with force. 

We were expected to believe that Rick bit the carotid artery of a big bad guy with a gun, but in a one on one alone with Negan in the RV, he submitted and tried nothing. 

I am not sure why the writers even included the scenes in the RV- they didn't add much to the story and actually jump the shark in my opinion. 

[AngelaHunter]

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 If you think about it, its almost like the rest of CDB and Negan's followers were just in suspended animation while Negan took Rick on a road trip. 

I was thinking about that tableau. Did everyone just stand there in one position and totally silent for the rest of the night and into full daylight? Did CDB kneel there, unmoving, for all those hours? They wouldn't have been able to stand at the end.

[nachomama]

HOLY SMOKES EZEKIEL?!!!!!! Rawwr. geddit? tiger. HEE

[Ocean Chick]

17 hours ago, Timetoread said:

Yes the jacket is unfortunate.  For several years JDM has been my physical ideal.  He's what I like in a man, and I don't like scrawny.  BTW I just saw a shirtless shot of the guy playing Ezekiel.  JDM needs to step aside, I'm with Zeke!

Please tell me that this season will have at least 1 (and possibly more) episode(s) where Ezekiel has a need to take his shirt off.  Or take a shower on screen.  I'll just be over in my bunk until then.

[RustbeltWriter]

15 hours ago, Gobi said:

I've heard grown men have torn their own heads off to avoid listening to Negan.

 

[TigerLynx]

I expect for there to be danger in a ZA, and lots of deaths.  I would also expect a breakdown of society, and for psychos to try to take advantage of the situation.  What I find unbelievable is that apparently there are only three types of people left in the world, Rick's group, psychos, and people to stupid to live, and somehow Rick's group manages to run into every single psycho out there, but none of the psychos ever run into each other.

I think a meeting of the psychos would go like this:

Negan:  "So you keep heads in fish tanks, well I bash peoples heads in with a baseball bat and never shut up."

Governor:  "I killed my own people."

Gareth:  "You guys are wusses.  We eat people."

Joe:  "I was a bad guy until this other guy ripped my juggler out with his teeth.  I don't know why he didn't do that to you."

Also, they took away the impact of Glenn's death with the fake out dumpster death last season.  Gore and violence are not substitutes for good storytelling.

[ganesh]

36 minutes ago, TigerLynx said:

What I find unbelievable is that apparently there are only three types of people left in the world, Rick's group, psychos, and people to stupid to live, and somehow Rick's group manages to run into every single psycho out there, but none of the psychos ever run into each other.

Since I keep harping on strategic thinking, and the lack thereof in the show, I can only infer that those types of people are smart enough to stay away from these raving lunatics, and that's why we never see them. The other thing that bothers me is that no one is wondering what the rest of the country is like, and really hasn't asked anyone they've come across. 

Maybe there's some confederation of fortresses on the coast or something. 

[The Mighty Peanut]

The theme of the chatter I'm seeing on Facebook and other social media is that this episode set an all time gore record, and I'm just not getting it. Yes, it was brutal, but no more than biting a man's throat out in order to get to Carl who was fighting off an attempted rapist, after it was announced that they'd gang rape both Carl and Michonne before killing Rick. Then there was the zombie that ate Lori whole and you could see the strands of her hair in it's teeth...which occurred sometime after Maggie performed an impromptu c section with no anesthesia preceding Carl shooting his own mother. There was the governor's daughter Penny who was super gross. All the bleeding from the eyes people. Abraham having sex. Crazy ass Lizzie killing her sister ("Don't worry...I didn't get her brain!"). Also Hershel's (RIP) zombie head rolling around until Michonne put him out of his misery. Also the human slaughter house/throat slitting at Terminus, the human meat slabs at Terminus...really everything at Terminus. For the love of God they ate Bob. Was the head bashing really a level above all of that? 

Edited October 27, 2016 by The Mighty Peanut

[ghoulina]

I think the head bashing WAS a level of bad, because it went on and on. 

Prior to that, I'd say the throat bite and the Terminus throat slitting were the worst. Hershel's was pretty bad too. But they were all fairly swift. We didn't see Rick just really chowing down, bite after bite after bite. A lot of those other ones you mentioned was a quick shot, and then the rest happened off screen. (Which, is actually often scarier, IMO.) 

But the way this went down, it was hit after hit after hit, on a pile of pulpy brains. It just went on a bit too long, I'm sure. As I've said before, gore doesn't typically bother me. I did cringe and yell during this episode, but I'm fine afterwards. But some people, it stays with them and is really unsettling. 

IDK, I'd never stop watching anyhow, but it wasn't the gore itself that bothered me - more the gimmicky theatrics. 

[Gobi]

The Mighty Peanut - I think you're right, Abraham having sex was the ultimate gross out.

[The Mighty Peanut]

15 minutes ago, Gobi said:

The Mighty Peanut - I think you're right, Abraham having sex was the ultimate gross out.

Glad someone noticed that. @ghoulina, I can see your point. I am so desensitized to tv violence it's ridiculous (unless it's a sad animal in which case I'm crying for days).

[AngelaHunter]

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Also, they took away the impact of Glenn's death with the fake out dumpster death last season.

I kind of thought they totally negated the impact of Abe's death by knocking off Glenn right afterwards. But yeah, the fake out, ridiculous Dumpster Debacle will live forever in the Archive of Cheap Ploys, or maybe in the Jump The Shark Hall of Fame.

[Gobi]

2 minutes ago, AngelaHunter said:

I kind of thought they totally negated the impact of Abe's death by knocking off Glenn right afterwards. But yeah, the fake out, ridiculous Dumpster Debacle will live forever in the Archive of Cheap Ploys, or maybe in the Jump The Shark Hall of Fame.

I sometimes wonder whether the Dumpster Debacle was a test run to see if they could get away with killing Glenn. If so, then despite people being upset about his putative death, they decided "Yeah, we can do it."

[peach]

43 minutes ago, The Mighty Peanut said:

Glad someone noticed that.

I choked on my diet coke.  lol

[J----av]

18 hours ago, Wryly said:

In other news, I'm ready for Carl to get a haircut.

 I'm ready for Carl to get Lucilled

[catrox14]

1 hour ago, The Mighty Peanut said:

Was the head bashing really a level above all of that? 

I think so. Because it went ON and ON and ON and ON and ON..etc (no I don't mean Negan's yammering).

In my opinion, there was no need to hear every smash into the skull or to see Glenn's eyeball popped out or to see his smashed skull and twitching hand.  We got the point without seeing Abraham's skull and hair dripping off the bat. It was just too much. IMO.

[J----av]

8 hours ago, Juliegirlj said:

Jeffrey Dean Morgan lost over 40 pounds for a previous role and has not put the weight back on. I read he weighs 170. His portrayal of Negan would be more believable if he were a bit more imposing physically. At some point in Negan's journey he would have had to be able to back up all that bravado with force. 

We were expected to believe that Rick bit the carotid artery of a big bad guy with a gun, but in a one on one alone with Negan in the RV, he submitted and tried nothing. 

I am not sure why the writers even included the scenes in the RV- they didn't add much to the story and actually jump the shark in my opinion. 

 Yeah because Negan had all Ricks buddies and would have them killed if Rick tried anything

[ParadoxLost]

1 hour ago, Gobi said:

I sometimes wonder whether the Dumpster Debacle was a test run to see if they could get away with killing Glenn. If so, then despite people being upset about his putative death, they decided "Yeah, we can do it."

I think it was a test run.  I also think that the audience told them it was fine by their reaction.  The complaints were grief over Glenn dying.

It was about how it was fake, how it destroyed the pacing, and how they weren't doing a good job showing any aftermath.

No one seems to care all that much that Glenn is dead.  I think they came to the conclusion that he was the most expendable of the Atlanta 5 and I don't think that is wrong.  That has nothing to do with the actor.  It has to do with the writing.

[Jordan27]

On ‎10‎/‎24‎/‎2016 at 7:30 PM, ParadoxLost said:

Actually, given that they killed off two characters they could have killed off Abe at the end of season 6 (ending either with Daryl lashing out and a cliffhanger on what happens next or with Abe getting the last word in) and then surprised the audience with Glenn at the start of season 7.

I wonder how that would have gone over.

Not really that much of a difference.  It's the same outcome.

On ‎10‎/‎24‎/‎2016 at 7:47 PM, ganesh said:

I was bored with Neegan by about 7 minutes in. The actor is great though. Like everyone else on the show I'm just not seeing much strategic thinking. I don't know why I'm surprised though. I get the point about killing someone in the group, but I would think you'd want more able bodies to do your work. So he offed two really valuable people. I could see chopping off a few fingers would still prove the point. At this point though, I feel like we're seeing the same character types over and over. 

Overly talking isn't that bad, but the whole putting on his little show just dragged. It would be interesting if this season someone grew a brain and they plotted to him out. 

I think AL also really brought it in this episode.

It's not fair to the show either, but all the ridiculous, incredulous hype leading up to the season turns me off. 

It's the number one show on cable TV.  It's expected.

[Jel]

For the love of mike, not Glenn! I feel cheated out of the angry, vengeful badassy Glenn we could have had if only it had been Maggie. 

Petition to bring back Glenn via dream sequence/ Rick's-eye-view psychotic break hallucination, or a post episode sub in of Glenn's evil twin, Gord.  But sorry, no ghost Glenn because even I have standards.

[Dr.Jacoby]

5 hours ago, ganesh said:

The other thing that bothers me is that no one is wondering what the rest of the country is like, and really hasn't asked anyone they've come across. 

Maybe there's some confederation of fortresses on the coast or something. 

God yes- I'd like to see them wondering what the rest of the WORLD is like once in a while too, it's like the show focuses on the micro picture, where a small remark/bit of throwaway theorising occasionally would give a real sense of world building and an intruiging tease of a bigger picture (I guess we're still supposed to have erased all memory of the CDC visit, right? ;)

ETA- I agree with the posts about not feeling the emotional connection with Maggie's grief, I'm one of those who ended up surprised at really liking FTWD's last season & think those writers are much better at dialogue,  especially dialogue for emotional scenes (I'm sure lots disagree!)

Edited October 28, 2016 by Dr.Jacoby
Because I cannot spell 'surprised', apparently!

[festivus]

25 minutes ago, Jel said:

For the love of mike, not Glenn! I feel cheated out of the angry, vengeful badassy Glenn we could have had if only it had been Maggie. 

Yeah I'm with ya. My favorites are usually female characters but I have just never connected with Maggie. I do think Steven is the better actor and I think Glenn's story would have had more potential. JMO.

[ParadoxLost]

45 minutes ago, Jordan27 said:

Not really that much of a difference.  It's the same outcome.

Not really that much of a difference.  It's the same outcome.

I don't think I agree.  Most of the moaning and whining (mine included) is not about the outcome.  Its about the execution of the finale and premiere and the weak ass plotting and momentum killing stalling, monologues, and flashbacks/fantasies. 

So let's say that they kill Abraham and go to black on Daryl's outburst in the finale.  The following goes differently

- They just took out the character that is arguably one of the most prominent outside of the Atlanta 5.

- This requires them to cut a chunk of the endless boxing in of the RV and Negan's monologue and some of the gimmicky camera work

- The producers don't end up in a live "your finale sucks" Talking Dead.  And really a finale has to suck a lot for the producers to get enough information during commercial breaks to feel like they must address it live on national television before the West Coast has even seen the whole finale.  They've got a dead/former cast member on the couch.  The air is taken out of the argument that the whole finale is a pointless stall for a Negan introduction, momentum ruining cliffhanger

- Now everyone still probably thinks Glenn would die in the premiere.  But at least the irritation with the finale is tempered by the fact that something happened.  There is likely discussion over the break of  Abraham's last words, some discussion of whether they would really kill another character or maybe more than one more, a little heightened concern that if they killed Abraham then the premiere would have to up the ante to Atlanta 5 or Maggie.

So then we get to the premiere

- And the stall to the reveal is less annoying because they haven't held everything back for months

- The beaten blood pile has more of an emotional impact because maybe that is Abe rather than cheap shock tactic.

-There has to be a limit to the stalling and monologues so maybe moving part of the action to the finale forces them to put in another plot point that turns into something substantial enough that they cut some of the gratuitous fantasies  Or maybe its worse. 

[AngelaHunter]

3 hours ago, The Mighty Peanut said:

The theme of the chatter I'm seeing on Facebook and other social media is that this episode set an all time gore record, and I'm just not getting it. Yes, it was brutal, but no more than biting a man's throat out in order to get to Carl who was fighting off an attempted rapist, after it was announced that they'd gang rape both Carl and Michonne before killing Rick. Then there was the zombie that ate Lori whole and you could see the strands of her hair in it's teeth...which occurred sometime after Maggie performed an impromptu c section with no anesthesia preceding Carl shooting his own mother. There was the governor's daughter Penny who was super gross. All the bleeding from the eyes people. Abraham having sex. Crazy ass Lizzie killing her sister ("Don't worry...I didn't get her brain!"). Also Hershel's (RIP) zombie head rolling around until Michonne put him out of his misery. Also the human slaughter house/throat slitting at Terminus, the human meat slabs at Terminus...really everything at Terminus. For the love of God they ate Bob. Was the head bashing really a level above all of that? 

I'm trying to picture the advertisers (or whoever) reading all those horrific scenarios... "Let's see - we have near-child rape, graphic C-sections with boy blowing his mom's brains out, small girl covered in blood and DEAD, a man watching his leg being eaten, Rick planting an axe in a prisoner's skull, and all those jugulars severed with gouting blood. Oh, and of course, zombies being killed in increasingly gory and graphic ways. The one Rick sliced open and we saw its guts spill out on the ground? Very nice. Now we have skulls smashed and an eyeball popping out of its socket? Yep, sounds just peachy-fine to us. Go ahead. WHAT?? You want Negan to say FUCK?? Absolutely not. We have standards here and need to protect the sensibilities of our viewers, some of whom would be very disturbed by that word. What if a child were watching?"

[jackjill89]

3 hours ago, The Mighty Peanut said:

The theme of the chatter I'm seeing on Facebook and other social media is that this episode set an all time gore record, and I'm just not getting it. Yes, it was brutal, but no more than biting a man's throat out in order to get to Carl who was fighting off an attempted rapist, after it was announced that they'd gang rape both Carl and Michonne before killing Rick. Then there was the zombie that ate Lori whole and you could see the strands of her hair in it's teeth...which occurred sometime after Maggie performed an impromptu c section with no anesthesia preceding Carl shooting his own mother. There was the governor's daughter Penny who was super gross. All the bleeding from the eyes people. Abraham having sex. Crazy ass Lizzie killing her sister ("Don't worry...I didn't get her brain!"). Also Hershel's (RIP) zombie head rolling around until Michonne put him out of his misery. Also the human slaughter house/throat slitting at Terminus, the human meat slabs at Terminus...really everything at Terminus. For the love of God they ate Bob. Was the head bashing really a level above all of that? 

The Terminus scenes were the worst for me. I was physically ill and couldn't watch them. It really, really unsettled me and stayed with me. For some reason, whenever I tune into a marathon, I am right about at that particular episode. 

There have been many times I've looked away watching this show. 

This episode didn't gross me out as much as it made me sad. Even though I knew what was coming, it was heartbreaking to me. Hershel's death was heartbreaking as well. They were horrific, but much of it was because I cared about who died. 

By the way, thanks for the image of the walker who ate Lori. Her hair in his teeth? Didn't notice that. Hope I don't ever see that. Yuck.

[Raven1707]

I'm still making my way through the comments -- I like to read them all! -- but thought this worth noting:

The season premiere of “The Walking Dead” was the biggest thing on cable by far for the week of Oct. 17-23 — and in one measure, the biggest thing on TV, period.

The show tops the combined broadcast and cable rankings among adults 18-49 by a wide margin: Its 8.4 rating in the demographic was 2.4 points ahead of “Sunday Night Football’s” 6.0. How big is that? The 2.4-point gap was the same as the No. 15 shows in the rankings (including, incidentally, a rerun of “The Walking Dead’s” Season 6 finale that aired right before the premiere).

“Sunday Night Football” finished No. 1 in viewers with 17.71 million, a little ahead of “The Walking Dead’s” 17.03 million. The AMC show will take over the top spot when DVR and on-demand viewing is counted, since live sports tend to add only a handful of viewers after the fact.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/weekly-ratings/combined-broadcast-cable-top-25-oct-17-23-2016/

[The Mighty Peanut]

1 hour ago, AngelaHunter said:

I'm trying to picture the advertisers (or whoever) reading all those horrific scenarios... "Let's see - we have near-child rape, graphic C-sections with boy blowing his mom's brains out, small girl covered in blood and DEAD, a man watching his leg being eaten, Rick planting an axe in a prisoner's skull, and all those jugulars severed with gouting blood. Oh, and of course, zombies being killed in increasingly gory and graphic ways. The one Rick sliced open and we saw its guts spill out on the ground? Very nice. Now we have skulls smashed and an eyeball popping out of its socket? Yep, sounds just peachy-fine to us. Go ahead. WHAT?? You want Negan to say FUCK?? Absolutely not. We have standards here and need to protect the sensibilities of our viewers, some of whom would be very disturbed by that word. What if a child were watching?"

*clutches pearls*

My God, what's next? Nipples?! 

[AngelaHunter]

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My God, what's next? Nipples?! 

Don't fear! A man with a shard of glass stuck in his eyeball, gutted human torsos hanging from hooks, yeah -  but never EVER a nip, thank goodness.

ETA: BTW, The Mighty Peanut - I just noticed that in your list of horrors you included Abe having sex. *Giggles*

Edited October 28, 2016 by AngelaHunter

[jackjill89]

Four days later, and one thing sticking in my mind is that there is actually someone in the Zombie Apocalypse that is walking around with a pen, and not only a pen, but a thick-tipped marker, just perfect for drawing a cut line on someone's arm. He really is Negan's gal Friday, ready with everything his evil boss should need. 

[AngelaHunter]

46 minutes ago, jackjill89 said:

Four days later, and one thing sticking in my mind is that there is actually someone in the Zombie Apocalypse that is walking around with a pen, and not only a pen, but a thick-tipped marker, just perfect for drawing a cut line on someone's arm. He really is Negan's gal Friday, ready with everything his evil boss should need. 

Thanks for mentioning that. It was a brief but  real "WTF?" moment for me. I rarely have a pen on me - and never a fully-loaded, fine marker -  and it's not  even an apocalypse here.

[ByTor]

15 hours ago, AngelaHunter said:

I'm trying to picture the advertisers (or whoever) reading all those horrific scenarios... "Let's see - we have near-child rape, graphic C-sections with boy blowing his mom's brains out, small girl covered in blood and DEAD, a man watching his leg being eaten, Rick planting an axe in a prisoner's skull, and all those jugulars severed with gouting blood. Oh, and of course, zombies being killed in increasingly gory and graphic ways. The one Rick sliced open and we saw its guts spill out on the ground? Very nice. Now we have skulls smashed and an eyeball popping out of its socket? Yep, sounds just peachy-fine to us. Go ahead. WHAT?? You want Negan to say FUCK?? Absolutely not. We have standards here and need to protect the sensibilities of our viewers, some of whom would be very disturbed by that word. What if a child were watching?"

I guess the censors' rationale is that saying THEEFFWORD (credit to Stephen King!) is real, whereas the gore is not.  Whatever, I personally wouldn't mind both being included.

I thought the gore was pretty over the top...as others have said, was it really necessary for Negan to continue bashing mushy heads into further mush?  However, what bothered me a lot more was last season when the Alexandria man (can't remember his name) was beaten & tortured and he begged "please!"  Much more disturbing, as far as I'm concerned.

I have to admit, I did like the season 6 finale & couldn't understand the disdain.  Someone brought up that many wouldn't like the "who shot JR" cliffhanger from Dallas, but now that I think about it, I understand what people are saying.  Using the Dallas example, I have a feeling many here would have been ok with that, because something big happened...JR got shot!!!  Then the next season began by us seeing how they were dealing with it & a search for who did it.

[Mattipoo]

I don't care how "charismatic" Negan is supposed to be, but bashing to death 2 of my favorite characters Abraham and Glenn is completely and utterly unforgivable. I hope Negan gets himself "Lucilled" by Maggie, Sasha and Rosita at the end of this season.

On a different note, Ezekiel = yummy. Yes hope he makes many shirtless appearances alongside his knights in the kingdom and TPTB showcases them in several exclusive standalone Negan-less episodes.

[rab01]

16 minutes ago, Mattipoo said:

On a different note, Ezekiel = yummy. Yes hope he makes many shirtless appearances alongside his knights in the kingdom and TPTB showcases them in several exclusive standalone Negan-less episodes.

Sure, the Richonne stuff last season was great but everyone who doesn't read the comics should know that, if Michonne were still available, she partnered up with Ezekiel in the comics.  Y'all can now picture what THOSE scenes would have been like ;)

[AngelaHunter]

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I guess the censors' rationale is that saying THEEFFWORD (credit to Stephen King!) is real, whereas the gore is not.

IMO, the gore is "real" in the sense that people do bleed out when their throats are cut and eyes could (and probably have) popped out from head bashing. It's not like we're seeing something totally unreal and  fantastical, like aliens vaporizing people with poof guns or turning them into frogs,e.g.

THEEFWORD, in this case, isn't even being used in a *gasp* sexual way (and so what if it were? It boggles my mind that plain ol' sex is so much more taboo and obscene than violence on commercial TV?) and from what I've read, it's one of Negan's main trademarks. I'm not saying everyone should be spouting "F" bombs all the time - I don't care either way -  but when it's a main feature of a character, it's just dumb and glaring to cross it out. JMO.

[ChipBach]

On 10/24/2016 at 3:49 PM, bookrat said:

18 hours ago, J----av said:

 I'm ready for Carl to get Lucilled

At least bashed enough to rationalized using a new actor...

[Mu Shu]

20 hours ago, Gobi said:

The Mighty Peanut - I think you're right, Abraham having sex was the ultimate gross out.

The ultimate gross out was Abe having sex while Yoogene watched.   And Dale trying to get with Andrea was pretty bad.

[ghoulina]

20 hours ago, festivus said:

Yeah I'm with ya. My favorites are usually female characters but I have just never connected with Maggie. I do think Steven is the better actor and I think Glenn's story would have had more potential. JMO.

Count me in. Glenn has always had a lot of potential. I liked that he was the brave, selfless one from the start. I liked that Hershel had such a huge impact on him and he continued on as the heart of the group. I liked how clever he was, at finding their way out of tough situations. I feel like his being with Maggie caused a lot of his stories to be about her, getting back to her, etc. Which, I get. I'm not opposed to it. But I would have liked to see other relationships within the group outside of Maggie explored. I feel like we got a little of that with Tara, and were starting to get something real cool with forgiving Nicholas - but then they killed him. So eh. 

Maybe Maggie will suddenly get interesting?

18 hours ago, The Mighty Peanut said:

My God, what's next? Nipples?! 

There will be no more of those now that Abraham is dead. 

[Mu Shu]

21 hours ago, festivus said:

Yeah I'm with ya. My favorites are usually female characters but I have just never connected with Maggie. I do think Steven is the better actor and I think Glenn's story would have had more potential. JMO.

Exactly.  Glenn would have wrung maximum pathos from a Maggie clubbing.   I've always thought the Maggie character dragged the Glenn character down, due to Steven Yuen being a much better actor, and much more appealing character.    Fuck it Maggie, your hair sucks, your accent sucks, and you emote like prince Charles on qualuudes. 

[The Mighty Peanut]

I can understand Negan's constant use of THEEFFWORD isn't allowed, though I think it's dumb and I'm pretty sure not using it means more people got an urban dictionary education of "pegging". Again, though, I understand that the censors couldn't justify giving all those fucks. Maybe they could have allowed one fuck, though. When it's used correctly and sparingly--like "you're fucking with the wrong people" instead of screwing--it's effective, IMO. I believe Breaking Bad just said they'd pay the fine and let a fuck in an episode.

fuck fuck fuck 

Edited October 28, 2016 by The Mighty Peanut

[ganesh]

Is it a fine? I thought they said it on Mad Men. 

[mandolin]

Watched the (shhhh) CDC episode today. I do  appreciate the use of Jenner's line as the title, as I did the titles at the end of season 5 coming from Dale in season 1. They get more call backs in than a lot of shows. 

[Constantinople]

Yesterday I realized the fundamental problem I have with Negan and why he bores me.

Negan is Ramsay Snow.

I'm not sure I'm up for The Walking Dead - Now with Ramsay Snow!

[slf]

On 10/25/2016 at 1:12 AM, J----av said:

 Well if they follow the comic, Negan will show allot more depth then we have seen from him so far. He isn't just some evil guy. People need to give the show more then just 1 episode to develop him

I've read some of the comics and have thoroughly spoiled myself w/r/t Negan and future potential baddies, actually. So I'm well aware of where this could go.

I'd like to point out that a character having depth doesn't make them necessarily any less just some evil guy. I know tv/comic books/judges in Montana don't agree but...

[Enigma X]

25 minutes ago, Constantinople said:

Yesterday I realized the fundamental problem I have with Negan and why he bores me.

Negan is Ramsay Snow.

I'm not sure I'm up for The Walking Dead - Now with Ramsay Snow!

Ramsey Snow had less monologues. 

[J----av]

1 hour ago, Constantinople said:

Yesterday I realized the fundamental problem I have with Negan and why he bores me.

Negan is Ramsay Snow.

I'm not sure I'm up for The Walking Dead - Now with Ramsay Snow!

 Negan and Ramsay don't have that much in common besides being dicks that kill people

Edited October 29, 2016 by J----av

[Gobi]

28 minutes ago, J----av said:

 Negan and Ramsay don't have that much in common besides being dicks that kill people

Wait till Negan gets some dogs.

[AngelaHunter]

2 hours ago, Gobi said:

Wait till Negan gets some dogs.

Dogs? Oh, dear. I hope those weren't his dogs that CDB chowed down on.

[Wryly]

On 10/27/2016 at 1:21 AM, AwesomO4000 said:

Hee. Not me. I like Carl's long hair. I think it suits him. Carl's not gonna care what anyone else thinks about his hair. He can also use it to partially cover his eyepatch.

Oh I dig the hair-in-face thing, and I'm not opposed to long hair on principle, like some kind of... Short Hair Nazi. But I preferred Carl's hair at the more tasteful length it has been in previous seasons. Now it's gotten so long it kinda beggars practicality for me. Even the women in this show mostly cut their hair short or put it up. And what about the discomfort level? I can't stand to have my hair down when I'm hot and sweaty. Carl's hair is regularly stuck to his neck and head from perspiration. That gets uncomfortable fast.