Whoopi Goldberg: EGOT Winner, So Why Is She Here?

[Haleth]

Joy and Whoopi seem to have a very good relationship.  I don't believe she's trying to get Whoopi fired.

[cinsays]

36 minutes ago, Haleth said:

Joy and Whoopi seem to have a very good relationship.  I don't believe she's trying to get Whoopi fired.

yeah, i would be really surprised if Joy is backstabbing Whoopi, maybe raising concerns about her health and ability to run the show (which she really is not good at) as any friend would be.

personally, i would be thrilled if Whoopi resigned - she detracts from the show

[Gemma Violet]

6 hours ago, Haleth said:

Joy and Whoopi seem to have a very good relationship.  I don't believe she's trying to get Whoopi fired.

That was the part of the article that make me think, "Take this with a grain of salt."  I've never pictured Joy as a back-stabber.

[TheGreenKnight]

I don't believe Joy is after Whoopi either, they've always been allies behind-the-scenes. I'm sure Sunny wouldn't mind if Whoopi went though, and I can't blame her for that. Personally, I don't think Whoopi will go. She's always stayed because she wants the $$$. I'm sure there are friends who want her to go because in today's environment it's so easy to be "cancelled" and Whoopi's come close, but I doubt her family are advising her to leave at all. She has had some sciatica problems lately because of the chairs, that's not really because of BTS fighting.

I wouldn't mind if Whoopi did leave even if I don't think she would. It would be interesting to find a new moderator for the panel, but it would be difficult attracting a big name at the same time (and that's what they would need). That said, part of me feels it's better that the show not rock the boat. Whoopi, Joy, Sara, Ana, and Sunny are a panel that's kept them #1 in the ratings for several years now. The 5th chair can be filled by anyone, but messing with those others too much could potentially impact their hot streak.

[lookeyloo]

Watched Ghost again last night. Whoopi was fabulous. And there was a scene where she needed to distract someone and she said "gas. I'm very gassy".  Uh huh. 

[falltime]

 

[sugarbaker design]

Excellent profile of Whoop this past Sunday on CBS Sunday Morning.

https://www.cbs.com/shows/video/XK2kLzjkV8qmxXrRIZTitOmHoTg_8pI8/

[atomic]

Whoopi has been doing a lot of press for her new book. In an interview with Don Lemon he asked if she "loves" doing The View. Has he ever even watched the show to think she loves anything more than the paycheck?  😂

[Medicine Crow]

Of course he knows she's in it for the money, but he was just diggin' for a headline!!!

[maggiemae]

Whoopi has a huge family to support.

I know she has done a lot of charity in the past.

 

But now it is her jewelry, Italian  products, and her new book.

Probably just me...but I don't care.

[atomic]

15 hours ago, maggiemae said:

Whoopi has a huge family to support.

I know she has done a lot of charity in the past.

 

But now it is her jewelry, Italian  products, and her new book.

Probably just me...but I don't care.

Sunny recently said on the Behind the Table podcast that Whoopi sent her family meals for two weeks straight after Manny's parents died. I don't enjoy Whoopi on The View most of the time, but do think she has a generous spirit and caring heart (contrary to what her grouchy on-air persona might suggest).

[Gemma Violet]

Article on how Whoopi prefers the earlier days of The View:

https://www.tmz.com/2024/05/10/whoopi-goldberg-the-view-better-before-people-quick-anger-woke/

[Soapy Goddess]

5 hours ago, Gemma Violet said:

Article on how Whoopi prefers the earlier days of The View:

I, too, prefer the earlier days of The View...without Whoopi!

Bring back Meredith. I'll even put up with Star. Anything to be Whoopi-less.

[maggiemae]

hmmm...seems to me it is Whoopi that dominates hot topics...at the beginning, during and the wrap up...complete with lecturing. 

The others really are intimated by her, imo.

[Gemma Violet]

39 minutes ago, maggiemae said:

complete with lecturing

I was telling my sister the other day that Whoopi can't get through one day without lecturing the audience.  

[buffynut]

I haven't watched The View regularly in years now.  And though I never really had much of an opinion on Whoopi, I did dislike the way she bullied Rosie O when they were on the show at the same time.

However, when I saw the ebook for her memoir on my library website I decided to borrow it, and I really enjoyed reading about her life with her mother and brother.  There was no doubt they meant everything to her, and she is still dealing with the loss of both of them.

One interesting bit, pertaining to The View:

Her mother used to call her to tell her that her face looked like she wasn't interested in/paying attention to the guest.  Now her daughter does the same thing.

It's a short book, only 145 pages on my e-reader, so a quick read, and better than some memoirs I've read with double the pages, but tons of boring stuff.

[bluegirl147]

Outside the View Whoopi is more tolerable.  But when she is sitting at the table she thinks the show is titled Whoopi's View.

[Cementhead]

I came to the conclusion years ago that Whoopi is only likeable when she is playing someone else. 

[Denize]

On 5/20/2024 at 5:47 AM, buffynut said:

Her mother used to call her to tell her that her face looked like she wasn't interested in/paying attention to the guest.  Now her daughter does the same thing.

And Whoopi continues to pay no attention to guests or cohosts who she is tired of and could care less what viewers think.

[bluegirl147]

11 hours ago, Denize said:

And Whoopi continues to pay no attention to guests or cohosts who she is tired of and could care less what viewers think.

It's disrespectful and unprofessional.  I don't watch the View Your Deal segments anymore. Does she still come out and take things?  That used to bug me.  The audience would laugh like it was funny.  I never found it funny.  

[Haleth]

No, she hasn’t done that in a long time.

I don’t think Whoopi disrespects guests, she only gets frustrated with stupid hot topics. Can’t say I blame her. I don’t dislike Whoopi like some of you do. My biggest beef with her is when she refuses to accept that sometimes she is wrong and she gets argumentative. 

[Glitches]

1 hour ago, Haleth said:

My biggest beef with her is when she refuses to accept that sometimes she is wrong and she gets argumentative. 

Sparks make The View better but digging too far into conflict and over-talking can be alienating. It could be beneficial for her to invent a conversation ending phrase for these occasions: 
Agree to disagree.
My thoughts differ.
We will not be changing minds today.
That’s one way to look at it. 

 

[Ellis Bell Lives]

47 minutes ago, Glitches said:

Sparks make The View better but digging too far into conflict and over-talking can be alienating. It could be beneficial for her to invent a conversation ending phrase for these occasions: 
Agree to disagree.
My thoughts differ.
We will not be changing minds today.
That’s one way to look at it. 

 

She does a have a conversation ending phrase.  She looks exasperatedly at Brian and says, "I know we have to go."  Cue the music.

[Shrek]

I have no problem with her as most of the time when she does her "this is boring" act I am in total agreement with her & my eyes are just about to roll so far back in my head it hurts.

[lookeyloo]

I am almost finished listening to her memoir.  It is about 7 hours of listening so not that long.  I have learned a lot about her.  I am not a regular watcher of The View anymore, but, I found her story poignant, sometimes charming, and a lot I didn't know about her.  I think I might understand why all those actors who come on who worked with her are so thrilled to be with her.  She reads it, and she is good at that, maybe because it is her story.  Or maybe I had too much wine and I am totally off base.

[Cementhead]

Whoopi Goldberg Lights Fire Under Cannabis Business With Two Brand Launches

Whoopi Goldberg and daughter Alex Martin at Cannabis line event Saturday night in LA

Logo for Emma & Clyde cannabis brand from WhoopFam:

Edited July 21, 2024 by Cementhead

[sugarbaker design]

FYI, on CBS Sunday Morning there's a report on an Italian sculptor who has a major fan and patron - Whoopi Goldberg.

[Haleth]

I know Clyde was her brother but Emma?  Was that her mother’s name?

[Medicine Crow]

5 hours ago, sugarbaker design said:

FYI, on CBS Sunday Morning there's a report on an Italian sculptor who has a major fan and patron - Whoopi Goldberg.

Yes, I thought this would be another situation where Whoopi is trying to ingratiate herself to Italy, where she now has a residence.

[HerkyJerky]

39 minutes ago, Medicine Crow said:

Whoopi is trying to ingratiate herself to Italy, where she now has a residence.

Obviously, she’s got over her fear of flying🛫

[Medicine Crow]

52 minutes ago, HerkyJerky said:

Obviously, she’s got over her fear of flying🛫

If memory serves, she went to "therapy" for that problem.

[falltime]

WHOOPI GOLDBERG'S PICKS

"Aretha Cool" by Matthew Jordan Smith
See the last decade of Aretha Franklin's iconic life through the eyes of her trusted photographer Matthew Jordan Smith. The book features never-before-seen photographs that highlight Aretha's depth, soul and presence. This rare collection and tribute to her legacy celebrates the Queen of Soul's unparalleled artistry and her unique collaboration with Smith.

"The Fall of Roe: The Rise of a New America" by Elizabeth Dias and Lisa Lerer
Journalists Elizabeth Dias and Lisa Lerer reveal the inside story of the stunning reversal of Roe v. Wade. Their investigation charts the steadfast political and religious movement to take down abortion rights and remake American families, womanhood and the nation itself.

"The Friday Afternoon Club" by Griffin Dunne
Actor, director and producer Griffin Dunne shares his story of growing up among larger-than-life characters in Hollywood and Manhattan – including Sean Connery, Carrie Fisher and his aunt Joan Didion, all amid the tragedy of losing his sister, which changed his family forever.

[Mollywolly555]

On 5/11/2024 at 6:18 PM, maggiemae said:

hmmm...seems to me it is Whoopi that dominates hot topics...at the beginning, during and the wrap up...complete with lecturing.  imo.

Since Whoopi is the moderator, i think the other ladies are not so much intimidated,  as thinking of her like a semi- director of sorts. I wd  use the word, 'deferential' instead, or the  term,  'legally obligated to do' so in their contracts. 

I think Barbara Walter's had a rule that when she talked, the others were quiet, and Whoopi lobbied for that rule at the table also. 

Plus she's well known for her acting bona fides, and respected by big names so who wants to be in the wrong side of that?

[sugarbaker design]

9 hours ago, falltime said:

The Friday Afternoon Club" by Griffin Dunne

Actor, director and producer Griffin Dunne shares his story of growing up among larger-than-life characters in Hollywood and Manhattan – including Sean Connery, Carrie Fisher and his aunt Joan Didion, all amid the tragedy of losing his sister, which changed his family forever.

I'm looking forward to reading this as well.  A couple years ago there was an excellent doc about Joan Didion.

[bluegirl147]

 

 

 

 

9 hours ago, falltime said:

"The Fall of Roe: The Rise of a New America" by Elizabeth Dias and Lisa Lerer
Journalists Elizabeth Dias and Lisa Lerer reveal the inside story of the stunning reversal of Roe v. Wade. Their investigation charts the steadfast political and religious movement to take down abortion rights and remake American families, womanhood and the nation itself.

I read Fall of Roe and there was one particular anti choice activist that was written about throughout the book and she made me want to punch her in the face.  People like her will never stop.

9 hours ago, falltime said:

"The Friday Afternoon Club" by Griffin Dunne
Actor, director and producer Griffin Dunne shares his story of growing up among larger-than-life characters in Hollywood and Manhattan – including Sean Connery, Carrie Fisher and his aunt Joan Didion, all amid the tragedy of losing his sister, which changed his family forever.

I loved his father Dominick.   His reporting on the OJ trial was can't miss.  It was horrific what happened to Griffin's sister.  

[Dimity]

1 hour ago, bluegirl147 said:

I loved his father Dominick.   His reporting on the OJ trial was can't miss.  It was horrific what happened to Griffin's sister.  

If anyone is struggling with a loss (or even if they aren't) I can't recommend Joan Didion's "Year of Magical Thinking" highly enough.  Writing ability clearly runs in this family.

[Blissfool]

On 7/21/2024 at 1:29 PM, Haleth said:

I know Clyde was her brother but Emma?  Was that her mother’s name?

Yes, Emma is her mother.

Someone enlighten me...is having a brand of cannabis named after me an honor?

[Buckeye71034]

been saying this for a few years but hoping this is Whoopi's last season...she takes up a huge portion of the budget and yet contributes the least of the hosts on any given day... and hoping she leaves on her own so it's not an ugly exit.

1) she does not actually moderate. she begins the convo but that usually involves careless mispronunciations or a cringeworthy British/valley accent.

2) 50% of the topics she acts like she is "above" even discussing (sure that makes the producers feel great lol) and often contributes nothing if it's not a political hot topic.

3) IF she does feel like giving her opinion, she will go on a long rant that no one is allowed to counter and everyone else is forced to clap like seals at.

Bring in a journalist who will require 25% the salary to simply moderate the discussions like Meredith did.

Edited September 9, 2024 by Buckeye71034

[SanDiegoInExile]

I have never gotten the impression that The View is financially challenged.  They seem to recoup enough dollars via the twice weekly (?) View Your Deals.

Even after all these decades, Whoopi remains an A-list Hollywood star.  I don't see an America clamoring for shows hosted by some rando ABC News correspondent.  I do think Whoopi helps bring the big name stars to the show.  Would DeNiro show up for The View with JuJu Chang?

The View folks have repeatedly said their current host mix is one of their better incarnations. The show will eventually need a replacement host, since Sara, Sunny, and Alyssa do not seem interested in that role.  

Also, the quality of Joy's Friday moderating has declined significantly in the past year. And I have loved Joy for nearly 30 years. She seems lost or confused much more often. She seems to have re-focused her career/goals/life, so I am not sure how much longer she will even want to do the show. Maybe she wants to make Season Thirty?

The last moderator that The View tried to introduce was Paula Faris, an experiment which ended almost as soon as it started.

 

 

 

 

 

[Soapy Goddess]

3 hours ago, Buckeye71034 said:

been saying this for a few years but hoping this is Whoopi's last season...she takes up a huge portion of the budget and yet contributes the least of the hosts on any given day... and hoping she leaves on her own so it's not an ugly exit.

1) she does not actually moderate. she begins the convo but that usually involves careless mispronunciations or a cringeworthy British/valley accent.

2) 50% of the topics she acts like she is "above" even discussing (sure that makes the producers feel great lol) and often contributes nothing if it's not a political hot topic.

3) IF she does feel like giving her opinion, she will go on a long rant that no one is allowed to counter and everyone else is forced to clap like seals at.

Bring in a journalist who will require 25% the salary to simply moderate the discussions like Meredith did.

I just posted the same sentiment in another topic regarding Whoopi, but you said it ALL...and did it so eloquently. Thank you!

2 hours ago, SanDiegoInExile said:

Even after all these decades, Whoopi remains an A-list Hollywood star.  I don't see an America clamoring for shows hosted by some rando ABC News correspondent.  I do think Whoopi helps bring the big name stars to the show.  Would DeNiro show up for The View with JuJu Chang?

I'd give up a thousand DeNiro's for just ONE Meredith Viera.

[cinsays]

15 hours ago, SanDiegoInExile said:

I have never gotten the impression that The View is financially challenged.  They seem to recoup enough dollars via the twice weekly (?) View Your Deals.

Even after all these decades, Whoopi remains an A-list Hollywood star.  I don't see an America clamoring for shows hosted by some rando ABC News correspondent.  I do think Whoopi helps bring the big name stars to the show.  Would DeNiro show up for The View with JuJu Chang?

The View folks have repeatedly said their current host mix is one of their better incarnations. The show will eventually need a replacement host, since Sara, Sunny, and Alyssa do not seem interested in that role.  

Also, the quality of Joy's Friday moderating has declined significantly in the past year. And I have loved Joy for nearly 30 years. She seems lost or confused much more often. She seems to have re-focused her career/goals/life, so I am not sure how much longer she will even want to do the show. Maybe she wants to make Season Thirty?

The last moderator that The View tried to introduce was Paula Faris, an experiment which ended almost as soon as it started.

 

 

 

 

 

I don't see this at all. Joy is frustrated by the state of our country and that comes thru in her discussions, but I think she is generally as sharp and funny as ever, with an occasional lapse, like we all have.

[Buckeye71034]

 

13 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

I just posted the same sentiment in another topic regarding Whoopi, but you said it ALL...and did it so eloquently. Thank you!

I'd give up a thousand DeNiro's for just ONE Meredith Viera.

I do not doubt Whoopi and Joy personally get a few guests but I do not really believe at this point, she is going out of her way to get guests. Brian and the producers of the View are good at their jobs.

Plus TBH if you notice, they share guests with GMA 75% of the time lol BUT they are going on GMA and the View (and not GMA + Tamron) because the View brings in big ratings... not because Whoopi is there in my opinion..

Also re: JuJu..well Meredith was hardly a superstar before The View either. Sara, Sunny and Ana's profiles have all blown up huge since being on the View.

[KittyQ]

36 minutes ago, Buckeye71034 said:

Also re: JuJu..well Meredith was hardly a superstar before The View either. Sara, Sunny and Ana's profiles have all blown up huge since being on the View.

But Meredith was already known as a well-respected journalist before the View. While she might not have attracted guests because of who she was, she did give the View a degree of class. I think that I've read that Meredith has always prioritized her family over her work, so she's taken jobs that don't require her to be away all the time. That's probably limited her "fame" overall.

[Denize]

Meredith's husband has been battling MS for 50 years, and they have 3 kids so she didn't want jobs that involved a lot of travel.

[lookeyloo]

Hoping this is the right thread - found a 1990 movie starting Whoopi and Sissy Spacek called "The Long walk Home" about the Montgomery bus boycott.  Good movie and Whoopi also very good.

[GHScorpiosRule]

16 minutes ago, lookeyloo said:

Hoping this is the right thread - found a 1990 movie starting Whoopi and Sissy Spacek called "The Long walk Home" about the Montgomery bus boycott.  Good movie and Whoopi also very good.

It is. Yeah, that was good. So was the movie where she played the widow of Medgar Evers, Ghosts of Mississippi. There is no doubt that she is a very talented actress.

[lookeyloo]

31 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

It is. Yeah, that was good. So was the movie where she played the widow of Medgar Evers, Ghosts of Mississippi. There is no doubt that she is a very talented actress.

Thanks.  will look for that too.  Turns out my roku box has a free movie channel called filmrise.

[atomic]

 

[FaginZorro]

Does Whoopi have a financial interest in The View? Why is she still around?

She is a piss poor moderator. This is not due to her dyslexia but to her poor judgment, sour attitude, and her inherent belief that she knows better than others. She is not at all well-spoken; she frequently misspeaks and many of her introductions of guests are cringe-worthy and out and out unprofessional. Her honeymoon with the View and its viewers lasted a long time but she has overstayed her welcome. WG is no longer young, hip, and edgy, but stale and entrenched. Yes, many, including me, share her abhorrence for the president-elect, but this is not enough for her to be a likable daily presence that I elect to spend time with. I prefer Fridays when she takes off (a privilege I do not possess with my jobs.)

I truly welcome contrary views that are intelligent and well-expressed but WG does not provide this. Her comment a few weeks ago about working on The View to pay the bills was worthy of a mutiny for those of us who have to suffer jobs that are far less cushy to provide for our families. Out of touch, much WG? Also, for someone who has been firmly entrenched in the big bucks gigs since circa 1990, this is indicative of poor money management. And we should listen to her because...why?

I do not want to be a force of negativity in getting people axed or set aside, (although WG was happy and eager to smear the Staten Island bakery about a questionable act of discrimination) but my jobs demand continual improvement and I do not see any growth and improvement in WG's performance on The View.

[Gemma Violet]

11 hours ago, FaginZorro said:

Does Whoopi have a financial interest in The View? Why is she still around?

She is a piss poor moderator. This is not due to her dyslexia but to her poor judgment, sour attitude, and her inherent belief that she knows better than others. She is not at all well-spoken; she frequently misspeaks and many of her introductions of guests are cringe-worthy and out and out unprofessional. Her honeymoon with the View and its viewers lasted a long time but she has overstayed her welcome. WG is no longer young, hip, and edgy, but stale and entrenched. Yes, many, including me, share her abhorrence for the president-elect, but this is not enough for her to be a likable daily presence that I elect to spend time with. I prefer Fridays when she takes off (a privilege I do not possess with my jobs.)

I truly welcome contrary views that are intelligent and well-expressed but WG does not provide this. Her comment a few weeks ago about working on The View to pay the bills was worthy of a mutiny for those of us who have to suffer jobs that are far less cushy to provide for our families. Out of touch, much WG? Also, for someone who has been firmly entrenched in the big bucks gigs since circa 1990, this is indicative of poor money management. And we should listen to her because...why?

I do not want to be a force of negativity in getting people axed or set aside, (although WG was happy and eager to smear the Staten Island bakery about a questionable act of discrimination) but my jobs demand continual improvement and I do not see any growth and improvement in WG's performance on The View.

I wish I could like this a dozen times.  There are four main things that irritate me about Whoopi:

1.  Lecturing the audience (studio and at home) on a daily basis.  How about simply facing the other hosts and speaking to them like you're supposed to.  

2.  Spitting out word salads that add nothing to the conversation:  "Ya see, you know what you know and you gotta do what you gotta do."  Sometimes I can't figure out what point she's trying to make or if there is even a point somewhere in there.

3.  Refusing to accept that she could be wrong.  Case in point:  When she said the Holocaust was not about race.  Someone on the panel (Sara or Joy) said "Yes, it was about race," but Whoopi said "No, no, it wasn't."  And that's everyone's signal to shut up because Whoopi is never ever wrong.  Except she got lambasted by the press the next day.  If she would have listened to Sara/Joy and accepted they were right, she wouldn't have gotten so much bad press.

4.  Not hesitating to let us all know she's bored with a topic.  She either does her bored introduction or her silly Valley Girl introduction and then sits there with her head in her palm as the others discuss it.  Yes, Whoopi, we know you don't like frivolous topics about relationships, etc., but you're paid millions per year to at least pretend to be interested.  

And I'm not even getting into the way she dresses like she just rolled out of bed or is getting ready to work in her garden.  I get she wants to be comfortable, but burlap-looking caftans and sandals with white socks on a network talk show?  Really?

And the podcasts.  She's done four or five of them, while the others have done over a hundred each.

I think someone at Disney likes her a lot and has put the word out that she can do what she wants, plus Brian is afraid of her, and so she gets away with stuff the others couldn't.