S11.E07: Something's Fishy

[Tara Ariano]

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Vicki revels in her family's return to Orange County. Meanwhile, Heather struggles to juggle work and life as she anticipates her book launch; Kelly and Vicki connect over shared anger; and a sushi party is spoiled when Kelly crosses a line.

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[Giselle]

This coming episode: Kelly once again crawls outside of Vicki's ass to spew venomous B.S and then crawls back up inside her lair.

[SCS]

  On 8/12/2016 at 5:56 PM, Tara Ariano said:

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Meanwhile, Heather struggles to juggle work and life as she anticipates her book launch

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I had no idea Heather (and Hubby Famewhore) had a book coming out, written for the betterment of all of us. The impending tome:

https://www.amazon.com/Guinea-Present-Guide-Anti-Aging-Treatments/dp/1939457556/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1471198315&sr=1-1&keywords=Heather+Dubrow

 

Interestingly, there's another Heather Dubrow with multiple books out. This is her bio from her Amazon author's page:

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Heather Dubrow, John D. Boyd, SJ, Chair in the Poetic Imagination at Fordham University, is the author of six scholarly books, most recently The Challenges of Orpheus: Lyric Poetry and Early Modern England (Johns Hopkins, 2008). Her other publications include the Evans edition of As You Like It, a co-edited collection of essays, the essay on Twentieth-Century Shakespeare criticism in the second edition of The Riverside Shakespeare, and numerous articles on Shakespeare, lyric poetry, and pedagogy. A poet as well as a literary critic, Heather Dubrow has also published a collection of her own poetry, Forms and Hollows (Cherry Grove Collections, 2011) and two chapbooks of verse; she is director of the Poets Out Loud reading series. Her previous academic appointment include the University of Wisconsin-Madison (where she was Tighe-Evans Professor and also John Bascom Professor) and Carleton College.

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Edited August 14, 2016 by steelcitysister

[Ubiquitous]

Shouldn't this be ep 07?

[ElDosEquis]

  On 8/14/2016 at 6:25 PM, steelcitysister said:

 

I had no idea Heather (and Hubby Famewhore) had a book coming out, written for the betterment of all of us. The impending tome:

https://www.amazon.com/Guinea-Present-Guide-Anti-Aging-Treatments/dp/1939457556/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1471198315&sr=1-1&keywords=Heather+Dubrow

 

 

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Like what beauty secrets could they tell us?

 

Don't stick leeches on your ass?

[Ubiquitous]

Didn't Heather mention that she and Terry were running around testing (quack) beauty treatments?

[b2H]

Cannot wait to find out if this is Kelly's last hurrah. She has no place on this show.

ETA:. The media thread says she will be back.  Signed contract and all.  I am out after this season.

Edited August 15, 2016 by b2H

[bosawks]

My takeaway from this is that Kelly is one blotchy, red-faced drunk and Heather can hand wave Vick every episode.

But more importantly I want some sushi.

[zoeysmom]

  On 8/16/2016 at 2:01 AM, bosawks said:

My takeaway from this is that Kelly is one blotchy, red-faced drunk and Heather can hand wave Vick every episode.

But more importantly I want some sushi.

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I was thinking the same thing

[Sarcastica]

They need to return Kelly to whatever dumpster they found her in. She is just vile. 

I have to admit, I laughed at Heather crying on the phone to Terry. What a mess. 

[tinaw]

Kelly needs to change her name to sybel. There are wayy too many people in there. 

Heather is a bad cryer on camera

[Ubiquitous]

Wow. What the fuck just happened? Kelly is totally mental!

I am glad Heather put her foot down and said "enough with this bullshit!", but her performance in the car with Terry lost me.

OK, I am glad she told off Vicki, too!

[chewycandy]

That gasp from Meghan when Kelly didn't obey Heather's demand to leave. Haha!

[DivaLasVegas82]

I think Kelly may have a drinking problem. Every time she has one of her outbursts, she is seen drinking. I did laugh so hard when she told Shannon to STFU. It was mean and undeserving, but her delivery was hysterical.

I can see why Heather's acting career never went very far. She is a terrible actress. She's been on this show for, what, five seasons, and a woman being called the c-word is the worst thing she has witnessed? PUH-LEAZE. If she was so turned off by mean spirited women, she would have never become friends with Tamra who called Gretchen and Alexis disgusting names for years. Heather had no issue with Tamra being cruel to them. She even joined in on the " I Hate Alexis" brigrade.

Meghan seems like she does want to be friends with Vicki but is too afraid of being outsted by the group for doing so. 

[mbaywife123]

Kelly calling other women c***s was beyond pale.

She is the one who acts like a low class desert rat.

Loved Heather telling her to leave. Who in their right mind would stay at a party after that kind of treatment?

Heather really seemed freaked out in her call to Terry.

Of course Tamra is the one who started this by saying that the woman at the party had said that Kelly was a prositute but no she didn't all she said was at least she didn't suck dick for a "living" which was uncalled for and nasty but I took it as sucking her now husband for the good life.

Tamra  or Vicki must have made some hell of a deal with Andy to have ignorant Kelly come onto this shitfest and be the villan this season.

[ihartcoffee]

Heather,  you won't win an Emmy with that performance.  Nice try though.  

Kelly is torching bridges. 

I want sushi too. 

[WireWrap]

IMO, Kelly is a combination of nasty/vulgar/aggressive Brandi, drunk/high/aggressive KimR and mean nasty Tamra all in 1 trashy person! They need to dump this person, fast and throw Vicki out with her.

[Ubiquitous]

Mmm, sushi!

And b/c it needs to be said, "Shut up, Megan!". I don't CARE about your IVF!

[Straycat80]

I can't see Kelly coming back next season. She doesn't fit in with the other women, I'm not counting Vicki. Most of these women swear a lot but screaming see you next Tuesday  Is never cool. Heather crying about it though was overkill, she's usually tougher than that.

maybe the vagina steaming didn't calm her nerves enough.

I'll be surprised if Megan comes back next season, this whole fertility thing is so boring.

eta: I just read up thread Kelly will be back next season, I'm surprised, I might not watch this one anymore. 

[Bronzedog]

I think I would be afraid to be in the same room with Kelly.  She's scary crazy.  Next week is the kiss of death for David and Shannon's marriage; aka vow renewal.

[DivaLasVegas82]

  On 8/16/2016 at 2:06 AM, ihartcoffee said:

Heather,  you won't win an Emmy with that performance.  Nice try though.  

Kelly is torching bridges. 

I want sushi too. 

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LoL. I totally agree about Heather. If the scene in the cry with her "crying" was suppose to get casting agents interested in her again, I think she failed. She could have at least sprinkled some water on her face. I didn't see one tear.

[Ubiquitous]

  On 8/16/2016 at 2:10 AM, Bronzedog said:

I think I would be afraid to be in the same room with Kelly.  She's scary crazy.  Next week is the kiss of death for David and Shannon's marriage; aka vow renewal.

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Ha ha! That was my first reaction!

 

  On 8/16/2016 at 2:11 AM, DivaLasVegas82 said:

LoL. I totally agree about Heather. If the scene in the cry with her "crying" was suppose to get casting agents interested in her again, I think she failed. She could have at least sprinkled some water on her face. I didn't see one tear.

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Or pulled a nosehair or dab something in her eyes or some Vik's vapor rub.

When did Tamra tell these things to Kelly? Did I nod off and miss it?

[DivaLasVegas82]

  On 8/16/2016 at 2:08 AM, WireWrap said:

IMO, Kelly is a combination of nasty/vulgar/aggressive Brandi, drunk/high/aggressive KimR and mean nasty Tamra all in 1 trashy person! They need to dump this person, fast and throw Vicki out with her.

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I'm not going to say I like Kelly because she has been pretty awful in her short time on the show, but she does bring the entertainment factor. Without her, we would get endless scenes of Meghan talking about or getting IVF shots, Tamra talking about her fitness competition, Vicki talking about how "love tank" being empty (Yuck), Heather complaining about Terry working too much. None of what the other ladies are doing, thus far, makes for exciting TV.

[WireWrap]

  On 8/16/2016 at 2:05 AM, Ubiquitous said:

Wow. What the fuck just happened? Kelly is totally mental!

I am glad Heather put her foot down and said "enough with this bullshit!", but her performance in the car with Terry lost me.

OK, I am glad she told off Vicki, too!

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I think Heather was as shocked as we were but she was there in person! I don't think Heather is use to anyone talking like Kelly did, even at her worst, Tamra never went that low!

  On 8/16/2016 at 2:06 AM, mbaywife123 said:

Kelly calling other women c***s was beyond pale.

She is the one who acts like a low class desert rat.

Loved Heather telling her to leave. Who in their right mind would stay at a party after that kind of treatment?

Heather really seemed freaked out in her call to Terry.

Of course Tamra is the one who started this by saying that the woman at the party had said that Kelly was a prositute but no she didn't all she said was at least she didn't suck dick for a "living" which was uncalled for and nasty but I took it as sucking her now husband for the good life.

Tamra  or Vicki must have made some hell of a deal with Andy to have ignorant Kelly come onto this shitfest and be the villan this season.

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I don't think Heather ever expected any HW on the OC show to be that low class. Kelly makes Tamra look like a soft spoken, generous human being! 

[mbaywife123]

Remember Heather is botoxed to the max in her face but she really seemed freaked like she was processing too many emotions at once and couldn't get control of her normal calm demeanor.

[DivaLasVegas82]

  On 8/16/2016 at 2:14 AM, WireWrap said:

I think Heather was as shocked as we were but she was there in person! I don't think Heather is use to anyone talking like Kelly did, even at her worst, Tamra never went that low!

I don't think Heather ever expected any HW on the OC show to be that low class. Kelly makes Tamra look like a soft spoken, generous human being! 

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I think Tamras' plot to get Gretchen "naked wasted" and the way she treated Alexis was worst than anything Kelly has done at this point, IMO.

[TexasGal]

Kelly needs to lay off the alcohol.  She seems like she has anger issues generally and then just no self control once she's been drinking.  The way her face got so red but the area around her eyes just got all white, like a reverse raccoon, freaked me the eff out.

Heather was probably more upset in the car that Kelly had ignored her edict to leave rather than what happened before that.  And I say that as a (usually) Heather fan.

Edited August 16, 2016 by TexasGal

[WireWrap]

  On 8/16/2016 at 2:16 AM, mbaywife123 said:

Remember Heather is botoxed to the max in her face but she really seemed freaked like she was processing too many emotions at once and couldn't get control of her normal calm demeanor.

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I think Tamra/Vicki are the trashiest people Heather has had to deal with until Kelly and Kelly makes them look normal in comparison!

[Straycat80]

I think the whole crying jag from Heather was all an act. There have been many , many other screaming freak outs and swearfests from the other women in the past *Shannon* and Heather never broke into a weepy mess.

[DivaLasVegas82]

  On 8/16/2016 at 2:19 AM, TexasGal said:

Kelly needs to lay off the alcohol.  She seems like she has anger issues generally and then just no self control once she's been drinking.  The way her face got so red but the area around her eyes just got all white, like a reverse raccoon, freaked me the eff out.

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She has acknowledged that she has anger issues, and I think those issues are magnified by 10 when she's been drinking. I don't want to call her an alcoholic because I don't know her personally and only have an opinion on her based on what is shown on camera, but she and alcohol definitely do not agree with each other.

[ihartcoffee]

  On 8/16/2016 at 2:11 AM, DivaLasVegas82 said:

LoL. I totally agree about Heather. If the scene in the cry with her "crying" was suppose to get casting agents interested in her again, I think she failed. She could have at least sprinkled some water on her face. I didn't see one tear.

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And seriously,  what happened to HER...she want even being attacked... lmao

[rustyspigot]

Tamra: Like the bible says... don't be a bitch. In so many words.

[WireWrap]

  On 8/16/2016 at 2:13 AM, Ubiquitous said:

 

When did Tamra tell these things to Kelly? Did I nod off and miss it?

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They showed it in a flash back when Shannon called Tamra on the phone about the text Kelly sent her about Nina.

  On 8/16/2016 at 2:19 AM, DivaLasVegas82 said:

I think Tamras' plot to get Gretchen "naked wasted" and the way she treated Alexis was worst than anything Kelly has done at this point, IMO.

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Heather wasn't on the show when Tamra did that to Gretchen and I don't think telling Alexis to act normal was all that wrong.

  On 8/16/2016 at 2:19 AM, TexasGal said:

Kelly needs to lay off the alcohol.  She seems like she has anger issues generally and then just no self control once she's been drinking.  The way her face got so red but the area around her eyes just got all white, like a reverse raccoon, freaked me the eff out.

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I don't think Kelly was drunk at the restaurant, she was able to apologize to Tamra/Heather coherently.

[movingtargetgal]

Kelly is definitely acts as if she has low class, white trash, parolee roots.  She is a feral ally cat and does not fit in with the other women or with decent society.  She need rehab, tons of therapy, and at least a year of social training from Prof. Henry Higgens (My Fair Lady) to be fit enough to reenter polite society.

Edited August 16, 2016 by movingtargetgal

[mbaywife123]

  On 8/16/2016 at 2:20 AM, WireWrap said:

I think Tamra/Vicki are the trashiest people Heather has had to deal with until Kelly and Kelly makes them look normal in comparison!

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Kelly makes the unfortunate homeless person who stands at a prominent intersection in my town and yells obscenities at passing motorists look good in comparison.

[DivaLasVegas82]

  On 8/16/2016 at 2:20 AM, WireWrap said:

I think Tamra/Vicki are the trashiest people Heather has had to deal with until Kelly and Kelly makes them look normal in comparison!

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I disagree. Tamra conspired to get Gretchen "naked wasted" and Vicki conspired to help her loser boyfriend pull off a cancer scheme. Kelly says vulgar things, but as far as I know, she hasn't conspired to make another cast member look bad nor has she lied about something as serious as cancer.

[Bronzedog]

Troy, bless his little heart, is as homely as a mud pie.  

[DivaLasVegas82]

  On 8/16/2016 at 2:24 AM, ihartcoffee said:

And seriously,  what happened to HER...she want even being attacked... lmao

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I think she was trying to make that scene about her and show off her "acting" skills. Kelly's behavior was awful, but it's not something that should have caused a grown woman to burst into tears, especially given the fact that Heather is friends with Tamra who has exhibited some very disturbing behavior towards her fellow cast mates over the years.

[enchantingmonkey]

Wow!  I only watch these shows for the manufactured drama but Kelly's display made even me blush a little.  One C U Next Tuesday is usually more than enough, lol.  

Heather's crying did seem a little over the top considering this wasn't her first time at the rodeo.  It made me wonder if Kelly's behavior triggered something or someone from her past that she never fully dealt with.  

[mbaywife123]

  On 8/16/2016 at 2:30 AM, DivaLasVegas82 said:

I think she was trying to make that scene about her and show off her "acting" skills. Kelly's behavior was awful, but it's not something that should have caused a grown woman to burst into tears, especially given the fact that Heather is friends with Tamra who has exhibited some very disturbing behavior towards her fellow cast mates over the years.

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Ever have a day where you are just mentally exhausted and can't take any more nonsense?

[chewycandy]

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low class, white trash, parolee roots

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Kelly is Latina and is taking the Mexican spitfire stereotype waaaay too far.

[lilmarysunshine]

Boy....Kelly and that notrocious (sic) behavior!

[100PercentPain]

I've never been a huge fan, but Heather D. earned some respect from me tonight. These shows have always been ridiculous and trashy, but Kelly is a whole different level and I don't blame Heather for bowing out of that shit. Her breakdown in the limo was weird at first, but then when she said, "I don't want to be associated with this" it suddenly made more sense. She was never a household name but Heather had a legitimate acting career for a time and I know she came on the show hoping to help her get back into the game. That doesn't usually work out well and most of these women end up hawking their own products instead (including the Dubrows), but nothing will permanently dash her hopes of being taken seriously as an actress again like being associated with someone like Kelly Dodd. 

 

I have never quit a RH show before. I will tolerate a lot of bullshit and a lot of terrible people but I won't be back if Kelly is. She is gross. It's hard to take her apology seriously when she's making fun of Heather again 5 minutes later and standing by all of her nonsense in her TH. Girl, bye. Putting aside for a moment the fact that I don't buy Tamra's compassion, Shannon is right that it isn't everyone else's responsibility to fix Kelly's crazy. You can love people and give grace to people and still have boundaries and keep toxic, nasty people who see no problem with their behavior at arms' length. And again, it's hard to take the compassion seriously when Tamra is actively setting Kelly off and stirring shit up again. 

 

Add Vicki to the mix and it gets even worse. Listening to the two of them bitch about Shannon over Kelly's shitty cooking was downright painful, and it seems we're in for more next week when they lament about the other women hating them because they ain't them. Right. 

 

Ugh. I can't even get into the rest of the episode. This fucking show. 

[WireWrap]

  On 8/16/2016 at 2:27 AM, DivaLasVegas82 said:

I disagree. Tamra conspired to get Gretchen "naked wasted" and Vicki conspired to help her loser boyfriend pull off a cancer scheme. Kelly says vulgar things, but as far as I know, she hasn't conspired to make another cast member look bad nor has she lied about something as serious as cancer.

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Heather wasn't on the show when Tamra went after Gretchen/naked wasted and Heather did call out Vicki both last season and this season about the cancer scam. And Heather has never heard any of the HWs, including Tamra, call her or the others names like Kelly just did.

Kelly went from 0 to 100 in 0.01 seconds flat and was nasty to several of Heathers friends in a small confined space.

[mbaywife123]

  On 8/16/2016 at 2:33 AM, lilmarysunshine said:

Boy....Kelly and that notrocious (sic) behavior!

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Ha! I caught that also, is drunken English her second language?

[DivaLasVegas82]

  On 8/16/2016 at 2:10 AM, Straycat80 said:

I can't see Kelly coming back next season. She doesn't fit in with the other women, I'm not counting Vicki. Most of these women swear a lot but screaming see you next Tuesday  Is never cool. Heather crying about it though was overkill, she's usually tougher than that.

maybe the vagina steaming didn't calm her nerves enough.

I'll be surprised if Megan comes back next season, this whole fertility thing is so boring.

eta: I just read up thread Kelly will be back next season, I'm surprised, I might not watch this one anymore. 

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I can totally see Kelly coming back. Love her or hate her, she brings the drama.  As far as Meghan returning? I don't know. She's not bringing the drama this season like she did last year. Children are always a blessing, but they don't make for Must-See-TV. So unless she can find a story next season that doesn't revolve around motherhood, I don't see her being on the show for much longer.

[Ubiquitous]

Ugh, I was cringing at Megan's exaggerated reaction to Shannon's quack homeopathic exercise therapist.

[Bronzedog]

  On 8/16/2016 at 2:36 AM, mbaywife123 said:

Ha! I caught that also, is drunken English her second language?

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I'm pretty sure she uses drunken English much more than sober English.  

[DivaLasVegas82]

  On 8/16/2016 at 2:32 AM, mbaywife123 said:

Ever have a day where you are just mentally exhausted and can't take any more nonsense?

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Sure, but I wouldn't burst into tears (or pretend to since I didn't see any actual tears on Heather's face) over someone else's behavior. Heather should have just left rather than chastising Kelly and the other girls about their behavior.

  On 8/16/2016 at 2:31 AM, enchantingmonkey said:

Wow!  I only watch these shows for the manufactured drama but Kelly's display made even me blush a little.  One C U Next Tuesday is usually more than enough, lol.  

Heather's crying did seem a little over the top considering this wasn't her first time at the rodeo.  It made me wonder if Kelly's behavior triggered something or someone from her past that she never fully dealt with.  

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I definitely think Kelly has some past or present issues that have gone unresolved. Tamra made a good point tonight when she said that when she was married to Simon, she took her anger out at him on other people. Kelly may very well be doing the same thing.

[lilmarysunshine]

Kelly comes across as legit crazy/bad to me - not "wacky."  She is really distasteful. Not sure I can stomach another season if she's in it. Surely there are more interesting women in the OC.

  On 8/16/2016 at 2:36 AM, mbaywife123 said:

Ha! I caught that also, is drunken English her second language?

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And then insisting 20 times over that she's educated and a multi-millionaire. My 14 year old son (who happened to be in the room) said "Wait a minute. Did she just say notrocious? She's so dumb."  I told him I know and the worst part is she has way more money than we'll ever have. lol