Jill, Derick & the Kids: Moving On!!

[AUgirl]

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Can you even IMAGINE the hatred Jill has for Jessa's vagina??????????????????????

Oh she's fuming-especially after making the comment on the show how Jesss had an easy delivery and she hopefully would too. 

She's probably blaming the poor baby for being large.

[Caracoa1]

If Jill did have gestational diabetes would she even share that with the public?  Especially after Izzy's diasterous labor and delivery.

[ginger90]

Strange the announcement doesn't include, Jill and Samuel are doing great, or something similar.

[poopchute]

8 minutes ago, Caracoa1 said:

If Jill did have gestational diabetes would she even share that with the public?  Especially after Izzy's diasterous labor and delivery.

Would she even know if she had it?  I didn't think she had any prenatal care besides her own.

[Guest]

There is no way Jill would know she had GD unless she went to a real doctor, right? Do reputable midwives have their clients go for those tests? We all know she doesn't go to a reputable midwife.

[poopchute]

And that test is done in a lab, I don't think it can be done in someone's house.  That disgusting drink.

[Mountainair]

I had to be induced with my third child at 37 weeks and consider myself to have been in labor for 36 hours. I was contracting and in major pain but nothing was happening. The hospital wanted to send me home to try again another day since my blood pressure issues seemed to have leveled out after the induction.  I refused and they induced me a 2nd time. 36 hours later I had my daughter but I consider all of that time labor since I was contracting the entire time. Most miserable time of my life. I was exhausted both mentally and physically. I was so close to having a c section but lucked out and delivered vaginally. 

Hopefully Mom and Baby are ok but damn she has some big babies! My third was my largest at 8 pounds and some change and she looked HUGE to me. My first two were barely 7 pounds. 

[Annb67]

Good God Jill!!! STOP!!! She is an idiot if she tried to labor at home AGAIN. I hope Samuel is healthy. I hope they secretly tied her tubes.

[Sew Sumi]

Hysterectomy? (wishful thinking so no more Dullard kids are brought into that cult)

Edited July 9, 2017 by Sew Sumi

[doodlebug]

45 minutes ago, heatherrrrz said:

There is no way Jill would know she had GD unless she went to a real doctor, right? Do reputable midwives have their clients go for those tests? We all know she doesn't go to a reputable midwife.

Regular certified nurse midwives would certainly order it.  However, from what we've seen, Jill goes to a lay midwife who isn't even licensed.  Therefore, her midwife wouldn't be able to refer her to a lab that does the test since it would require an order from a licensed practitioner.  Odds are, she didn't have the test.  If she was a gestational diabetic, it would make for a big storyline for the show, which also makes me think she was never tested (or was tested and negative, though I think she would've said something it that were true).

Jill's sort of midwives tend to be 'don't ask, don't tell' about a lot of things.  They ignore the obvious risks and wait for something to go awry.  Not, IMO, the best idea.

[awaken]

1 hour ago, Fuzzysox said:

Time for a thread title change!!

and our new precious addition Sammy might be good to add after Izzy.

Or Bam Bam II (giant white baby)

Ha.  The Dullards and Their Manipulative GWB's

47 minutes ago, heatherrrrz said:

Do reputable midwives have their clients go for those tests? We all know she doesn't go to a reputable midwife.

Yes.  I had all of my babies at home with reputable, qualified, extensively trained and experienced midwives, and had GD testing, blood work, GBS testing, ultrasounds, estimates of fetal size/position, etc, with full informed consent, hour long appointments, in my home (except for the ultrasound).  

[RazzleberryPie]

We have no idea what kind of 'tests' Jill 'passed with flying colors', but they probably involved tying a string to a wedding band and dangling it over the belly to see if spins straight for a boy or in a circle for a girl.

[Guest]

Derelict posted a photo of the GWB, he really is giant

[ginger90]

A picture of Samuel

https://mobile.twitter.com/derick4Him/status/883848078997860352?p=v

[tabloidlover]

Very odd that there was zero mention of the health of either Jill or Samuel.  Simply "thank you for your continued prayers and support."   In other words, keep praying and don't forget to DONATE! 

[Sew Sumi]

[tabloidlover]

Thank you, @Sew Sumi !   I take comfort in the fact he says they are doing well.

[Sew Sumi]

Something didn't go right (?), given all the monitoring that Sammy is undergoing. 

Edited July 9, 2017 by Sew Sumi

[BunnyBlueBrown]

Nope...that's definitely a toddler

[JoanArc]

That's one big baby! Doesn't appear to be a Zika baby, hopefully. I agree something looks off if he's on monitors. 

[cdp73]

Jerick and Dill Dullard:  Two failed homebirths and counting

[tabloidlover]

7 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

Something didn't go right, given all the monitoring that Sammy is undergoing. 

What am I missing?  Where does it say he is being monitored more than a normal C-section baby?

[toodles]

4 minutes ago, JoanArc said:

That's one big baby! Doesn't appear to be a Zika baby, hopefully. I agree something looks off if he's on monitors. 

A bunch of monitors and oxygen.

[SMama]

Is the tiny splint on his arm because of the IV? If answer is obvious pardon my ignorance. 

[Sew Sumi]

7 minutes ago, tabloidlover said:

What am I missing?  Where does it say he is being monitored more than a normal C-section baby?

@doodlebug Is this amount of monitoring normal after a c-section, or would this indicate fetal distress of some sort? 

I honestly do not know, hence my alarm at seeing pulse-ox, heart, and oxygen. 

[JoanArc]

5 minutes ago, toodles said:

A bunch of monitors and oxygen.

I saw that too? I swear if Jill gets out of this fine, but with a birth injured baby, I'll go nuclear.

[Pollypam]

My c section babies had monitors like that, but not the splints and the oxygen

[doodlebug]

16 minutes ago, tabloidlover said:

hat am I missing?  Where does it say he is being monitored more than a normal C-section baby?

Baby Samuel is on an infant warmer.  He has an IV, is wearing cardiac monitors and has a nasal cannula for oxygen in his nose.  None of those are routine or 'normal'.  Most likely, he showed signs of depression at birth perhaps had a fever.  In any event, he probably had a rough start and is needing extra oxygen because his oxygenation wasn't normal on room air.  He also is getting IV fluids, perhaps due to dehydration due to a difficult labor/delivery and I suspect getting antibiotics to treat any possible bacterial infection as newborns who are depressed at birth are prone to them.  I suspect he is going to be in the NICU for at least a few days for monitoring.  Chances are, he will be fine in the long run.

Edited July 9, 2017 by doodlebug

[wilsie]

@doodlebug  Thank you for always answering our questions.  You remind me of my doctor who is really intelligent, patient and kind.  Your patients are lucky to have you to look out for them.  And I hope, so much, that Jill and Derick start to care about Jill and their babies' health as much as we do and act accordingly.  

[AUgirl]

My scheduled c-section breech had issues breathing because he swallowed amniotic fluid.  He was in the NICU for 5 days because he was breathing too fast.  He had an IV and monitors but no oxygen.

Jill--please take this as a sign for you use a real doctor and hospital if you insist on keeping on spitting out babies.  Jana wins bestest brood mare ever.  This is the second time you've gotten extremely lucky-sorry "blessed"- with these birth outcomes.

[Marshmallow Mollie]

When people want to see a picture of a baby, they want to see the face. Weird picture Derrick chose to post, but that is par for course for them.

[Ripley68]

I was just going to ask...what is all that shit hooked up to him?  And the things wrapped around his hands and feet?  Its weird seeing such a big baby with all that crap hooked up to them, usually its a preemie.

[floridamom]

After seeing that photo of Samuel...well, no 0-3month/newborn clothing for him. That baby looks to be about 4 months old already.

[Sew Sumi]

Well, it looks like Jill yet again tried a homebirth that looks to have gone not so well for Baby Sammy. Did she show up at the hospital at the 11th hour yet again looking for relief? All indications appear that that's the case. 

[Patricia07]

7 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

Well, it looks like Jill yet again tried a homebirth that looks to have gone not so well for Baby Sammy. Did she show up at the hospital at the 11th hour yet again looking for relief? All indications appear that that's the case. 

With total disregard for the wellbeing of her unborn child.

[Marigold]

I'm gonna set my snark aside and say:

A failed VBAC will most likely lead to repeat C-sections, which will inhibit her large family plans.  Jill just helped to deliver Jessa's smooth home birth baby and now it seems that Samuel is having a rough start.  

I really hope Jill can handle this emotionally; we suspected she might've suffered from depression after Izzy.  

[BitterApple]

4 minutes ago, Patricia07 said:

With total disregard for the wellbeing of her unborn child.

The safety of the baby comes in third after Mommy's ego and Martyr Complex. 

Edited July 9, 2017 by BitterApple

[Sew Sumi]

One has to wonder what got her to go to the hospital this time? Even meconium didn't do it with Izzy. 

Edited July 9, 2017 by Sew Sumi

[Marigold]

1 minute ago, BitterApple said:

The safety of the baby comes in third after Mommy's ego and Martyr Complex. 

I don't think they really believe bad things can happen.

Michelle has a clue after she lost Jubilee.  But Jill lives in La-la land.  What could possibly go wrong? 

[RazzleberryPie]

1 minute ago, Marigold said:

I'm gonna set my snark aside and say:

A failed VBAC will most likely lead to repeat C-sections, which will inhibit her large family plans.  Jill just helped to deliver Jessa's smooth home birth baby and now it seems that Samuel is having a rough start.  

I really hope Jill can handle this emotionally; we suspected she might've suffered from depression after Izzy.  

I can't help but wonder if Jessa's thinking something like "dang, glad to have healthy babies, but if repeat C-sections = fewer babies, SIGN ME UP NOW." I think Jessa will stop at four or five, if she can figure out how to trick Bin into natural planning.

[drafan]

I hope this doesn't mean that their "pattern" is kids names ending in  "-el".  Gag. Next comes Ezekiel, then Abel.......then the girls.....Ariel, Rachel, and Mabel. The possibilities are endless.

[tabloidlover]

Perhaps this isn't the time to ask, but I wonder if some agency steps in and says WTF at some point?   Clearly her/their decision making sucks.   Who steps in for the child?   This is actually stressing me out.  That poor baby.   I can't even let myself think about poor Izzy once/if they bring Samuel home.

[doodlebug]

1 minute ago, tabloidlover said:

Perhaps this isn't the time to ask, but I wonder if some agency steps in and says WTF at some point?   Clearly her/their decision making sucks.   Who steps in for the child?   This is actually stressing me out.  That poor baby.   I can't even let myself think about poor Izzy once/if they bring Samuel home.

Presuming she had inadequate prenatal care (by our standards), tried to have a homebirth in less than medically ideal circumstances and then came to the hospital; there is nothing there to cause any sort of intervention by the authorities.  Most hospitals would have a social work consult for all NICU babies and I think most doctors/midwives would also ask social services to see any woman who presented in this fashion; but, the fact is, none of this adds up to negligence.  People do dumb stuff with their kids every day.

[tabloidlover]

Thank you for answering. 

[BitterApple]

4 minutes ago, tabloidlover said:

Perhaps this isn't the time to ask, but I wonder if some agency steps in and says WTF at some point?   Clearly her/their decision making sucks.   Who steps in for the child?   This is actually stressing me out.  That poor baby.   I can't even let myself think about poor Izzy once/if they bring Samuel home.

I think as long as Jill stays in Arkansas she can maintain, but if they go back to Danger America she will lose her shit. Whatever's going on down there has her so terrified she's having breakdowns over shower rods, there's no way she can handle the isolation plus two small children. 

[tabloidlover]

 I'm so truly worried for both Samuel and Izzy.  My heart just aches for them.  Derrick is a fucking idiot (being generous on a good day) and Jill is just clueless (and willfully ignorant).  These poor kids just don't stand a chance. 

I fully believe the family doesn't begin labor/delivery at the hospital due to the co-pays involved.  Just because someone has insurance doesn't mean they can afford their portion.  Or is willing to pay their portion.   If these fucknuts would consider the true costs of actually caring for their children, they might just slow the fuck down.   God is full of grace, but at some point you need to carry your own weight.   Only a fool would simply sit around and wait for a miracle birth. 

These fools just set off my anger and I cannot help it.  The hatred is real, ya'll

Edited July 9, 2017 by tabloidlover
slight correction

[JoanArc]

19 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

The safety of the baby comes in third after Mommy's ego and Martyr Complex. 

I'm sure she like totally chanted the right bible verses this time though.

[lascuba]

3 hours ago, farmgal4 said:

In my experience in L&D, no reputable doctor would allow a woman to labor for 40 hours anywhere, home or hospital.  Personally I think Jill is trying to win the "Longest Labor" award and is lying about how long she was in real labor.  Either that or she's so damned dumb that she doesn't know how to tell what real labor is.

Hospitals can't actually force a patient to have a c-section, can they? One's private doctor could refuse to treat her, but I think a hospitalist would be shit out of luck.  So if Jill did show up in labor and insisted on a trial of labor, I don't think there would be anything the hospital staff could do but cajole and attempt to educated the incapable of being educated. That said, until proven otherwise I'm assuming she labored at home until she came to the conclusion that a VBAC wasn't going to happen and went to the hospital.

[Sew Sumi]

I'm just glad that Jill never officially delivered a baby as a licensed midwife. It's like saying that there's a doctor out there practicing who graduated last in his/her class. Look no further than her mentor midwife. OMG. 

If this is the result of two deliveries of her OWN CHILDREN, I can't imagine all the bad decision making with disastrous results that could have happened if she had been practicing on her own. 

[JoanArc]

8 minutes ago, tabloidlover said:

I fully believe the family doesn't begin labor/delivery at the hospital due to the co-pays involved.

A week in the NICU ain't cheap.