Jill, Derick & the Kids: Moving On!!

[JoanArc]

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And good point in that article.  If jilll handles an adoption situation so horribly and without basic common sense and sensitivity, she is the WRONG person to adopt anything. She really is a jerk. i think i hate her now. 

If Jill were smarter (she's not), she could've pulled this stunt to ensure that they'd never be picked as adoptive parents, and she'll 'have to' birth a hoard of children herself.

 

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One thing I do know is it's incredibly messed up for Jill and Co. to hide behind baby Izzy. As if a one year-old really gives a crap about meeting a great grandmother he doesn't even know exists. 

Not to mention he has a 'ggma' already - Mary Duggar.

Edited June 5, 2016 by JoanArc

[Featherhat]

1 hour ago, BitterApple said:

Was this stunt producer-driven because JJCO is a boring shitfest in desperate need of a juicy storyline? 

One thing I do know is it's incredibly messed up for Jill and Co. to hide behind baby Izzy. As if a one year-old really gives a crap about meeting a great grandmother he doesn't even know exists. 

Bit in bold is bingo I suspect. Either Jill was desperately trolling for any kind of storyline or the producers were. Think about it, Dill are "considering adoption" and lo and behold Cathy's long lost birth mother (or her relatives) come out of the wood work and agree to film the reunion for TV and give the juicy story up for the cameras. (Or their version of "juicy" which is "slightly damp".) They'd milk that for a season's worth of storyline. That's why they blasted it out to twitter for maximum impact rather than quietly looking around adopted kids websites or basic google searches.

 

That's especially the case if Blessing #2 is off the cards for now or proving tardy in getting here in time for filming.

[Arwen Evenstar]

Plenty of gossip sites were hinting it was for ratings.  Yesterday, plenty of gossip sites ran headlines with "possible storyline for Jill and Derick".

It's upsetting to me that these bottom feeding websites are just as bad as the Duggars in seeking attention and to some extent, encourage the Duggars and Kardashians and others like them to think that it's newsworthy anytime one of them farts.

It's one thing when the Duggars act the fool to keep themselves relevant, but entirely another when they do it the expense of Miss Cathy.  Can't you just see the Duggars filling the heads of their adopted children with how they saved them from abortion?  None of the Duggars is qualified to adopt a shelter animal as far as I'm concerned, let alone a child. SMDH.

[Micks Picks]

Oh you are so right Arwan.  They would tell them that they had saved them from abortion.  What a horror to tell kids.  What the hell is wrong with these people?  Maybe they can adopt a bunch of Zika babies who are born with half a brain.  I hear they seem to be in pain and scream all the time and are left at orphanages because the parents can't bear it anymore.  Perfect for the Duggars/Dillards/Seewalds.  

[Arwen Evenstar]

39 minutes ago, Micks Picks said:

Oh you are so right Arwan.  They would tell them that they had saved them from abortion.  What a horror to tell kids.  What the hell is wrong with these people?  Maybe they can adopt a bunch of Zika babies who are born with half a brain.  I hear they seem to be in pain and scream all the time and are left at orphanages because the parents can't bear it anymore.  Perfect for the Duggars/Dillards/Seewalds.  

Micks Picks, but think of all the extruh speshul sooper dooper Fundy martyrdom bonus Jeebus house points a Zika baby with microcephaly would bring the Duggars! It would be martyrdom gold! Aaaaaaaaaaand what makes you think Jill or Jessa would be caring for such an unfortunate child--that task would fall to Jana.

That said, Jana would be only one compassionate enough to ensure that poor baby would get the tenderest of care.

Snark aside to the Duggars, seeing those poor babies in agony breaks my heart. No doubt Zika will force many into making that heartbreaking decision to terminate the pregnancy of a very wanted child.  I'm thankful my childbearing years are up, so that I'd never have to deal with such a heart wrenching moral and ethical dilemma. It's hard on most women to terminate a pregnancy they did now want, let alone one they wanted.

[TeeMo]

Unless Cathy's bio mother expressly and cruelly said to her "I wish you were never born and would have aborted you had I had the legal chance" Cathy should shut her mouth about it and just be thankful that the woman went through with the pregnancy and ultimately made sure Cathy ended up somewhere where she was wanted.  Advancing your own poltical agenda by publicly shaming the choice you think someone would have made (but didn't!)  is truly disgusting. 

[ariel]

4 hours ago, Arwen Evenstar said:

None of the Duggars is qualified to adopt a shelter animal as far as I'm concerned, let alone a child. SMDH.

Or a Chia Pet.  They would probably find a way to screw that up that venture too.

Speaking of pets, does anyone know what happened to the countless dogs/kittens that were featured on their show?  What happened to that poor cat that Derrick & the family gleefully tried to run over with a sled?

[kokapetl]

Where would Jill have gotten the birthday for Cathy's mother from?

This is all nuts. Don't dig any further, you might learn that "She's my sister!, she's my mother!, she's my sister and my mother!", or similar. 

[Marigold]

How could this even be a storyline if the bio mother wanted no contact? 

That doesn't make sense to me either.

A story line can only work if there is actually a story to work with. There is no story here. Cathy contacted her mom and the story is over. Now the woman is dead. 

[Sew Sumi]

I can't remember what thread we were talking about the girls and their earrings, but I noted that I hoped that Jill got hers from the locals rather than Wally World. And lookie what Dullard posted! 

PS: LMAO that this post also takes the heat off Jilly and his mother, although Cathy has apparently tweeted that they have the information that they were looking for. 

[JoanArc]

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Jewelry on the display table this weekend made by local women to sell as part of our ministry.

Oh, so Jill got the earring for free.

[Sew Sumi]

She's a true grifting Duggar. I hope these women didn't make those horrible chandelier earrings that every girl over 18 (save Joy, not sure if she has her ears pierced at all) have worn in the past two or so years. They're so, so tacky. I think I wore them in the 80's. 

eta: I tried googling images of Jessa wearing them (and there were tons), but I couldn't even download the ones that were under the KB limit. If anyone else wants to search, have at it, but those earrings could be eponymous with the Duggar name; the girls have worn them THAT much. Yes, I've even seen them on Jana. 

Edited June 6, 2016 by Sew Sumi

[Arwen Evenstar]

We've gotten way too many internet FUs from them for them not to be reading our posts.

Wonder if they'll take it to heart if we tell them to escape from the Cult of Boob!

[DangerousMinds]

hOW exactly can the Dullard "ministry " take any credit for that beautiful jewelry?

[Sew Sumi]

As I noted above, they probably fronted the money for the materials. The question is, are they self-sufficient after one sale, or does SOS keep using them for sales? And to whom exactly are these jewels sold? How much of a tourist trade is there to buy these trinkets?

[satrunrose]

5 hours ago, Marigold said:

How could this even be a storyline if the bio mother wanted no contact? 

That doesn't make sense to me either.

A story line can only work if there is actually a story to work with. There is no story here. Cathy contacted her mom and the story is over. Now the woman is dead. 

I would guess that Jill, who judges everyone by her own standards and doesn't get that other, non satan-fortress inspired ones even exist, assumed that either a. God had shown this lady her error (or could be convinced of said error by the Dillards' mad missionary skills), or b. Jill figured that being the bio grandmother-in-law of the blessed Jill Duggar and getting to be a tv star would be enough of a neat blessing to get her to come out of the woodwork. 

I think it's also possible that Jill/Cathy knew the lady was dead but were hoping for a "surprise" tearful reunion with siblings or cousins. All filmed, of course.

[Lemur]

9 hours ago, satrunrose said:

I would guess that Jill, who judges everyone by her own standards and doesn't get that other, non satan-fortress inspired ones even exist, assumed that either a. God had shown this lady her error (or could be convinced of said error by the Dillards' mad missionary skills), or b. Jill figured that being the bio grandmother-in-law of the blessed Jill Duggar and getting to be a tv star would be enough of a neat blessing to get her to come out of the woodwork. 

I think it's also possible that Jill/Cathy knew the lady was dead but were hoping for a "surprise" tearful reunion with siblings or cousins. All filmed, of course.

You took the words right out of my mouth ...

[Minivanessa]

I also believe they were doing this with the intent of creating a story for their lame TV show. Totally™, as St. Jill the Dullard would say.

[Churchhoney]

33 minutes ago, Jeeves said:

I also believe they were doing this with the intent of creating a story for their lame TV show. Totally™, as St. Jill the Dullard would say.

Now, see, they heard the criticism that all that "life changing moment in the final episode of the season" stuff from last season never got followed up. So they're going to do better this time and really follow up on all the (endless) adoption talk they've done. Next season there will be a real Duggar adoptee and adoptee's story shown on the show! It won't be a child, and it won't be anybody adopted by a Duggar, of course, cause they don't want any of that yucky nobody-knows-whose-it-is blood in their precious family. But they'll have an adoptee -- 60-year-old Cathy. So -- once again -- FU Internetz! The Duggars are serious about adoption.

[sometimesy]

So they knew Cathy had already 'met' her mother, and her mother rejected her, and went ahead with the 'twitter search' anyway. What a lame excuse; Izzy wanted to meet her. Scum.

Even worse, imo, did they provide raw materials for these women, and then take the profits from their free labour to put into their 'ministry'. Is that what happened? If so, there is no defense for that. Or are the women paid for their time making the jewelry and the money after profit goes to their faux ministry. And which ministry, Jill and Derelict or SOS. Who is using these women? Does this mirror any behavior...yep, JB, it's how he runs his family. 

Edited June 6, 2016 by sometimesy

[FakeJoshDuggar]

Good God, the grifting is strong in these people. What a shitty God to serve if he picks and chooses who to cure of cancer. No, I won't be reading any Chriatianese scribes from anyone associated with the Duggars. 

[Aja]

So what, God loves Cathy more than a six year-old who succumbs to leukemia? God loves Cathy more than a young mom who succumbs to breast cancer? God loves Cathy more than Bob Marley, Farrah Fawcett, Patrick Swayze, David Bowie, Steve Jobs, my grandmother, or any of the other billions of people who have lost their lives to cancer? Cathy, when the doc told you "it's a miracle," he was just speaking your language. He would have lost you if he tried to explain the advances in science and technology that actually saved your life.

Edited June 6, 2016 by Aja

[Churchhoney]

9 minutes ago, Aja said:

So what, God loves Cathy more than a six year-old who succumbs to leukemia? God loves Cathy more than a young mom who succumbs to breast cancer? God loves Cathy more than Bob Marley, Farrah Fawcett, Patrick Swayze, David Bowie, Steve Jobs, or any of the other billions of people who have lost their lives to cancer?

Well, Cathy is now a member-by-marriage of the Duggar family. And they are soooo blessed. Wouldn't be surprising at all if Jesus sent this miracle as a sign, now would it? Put this blessed family back on Tee Vee! .... I'm beginning to wonder if Cathy's fallen for all this we're-special-chosen-people-with-a-ministry stuff as much as the idiot sons- and daughter-in-law have.

[bigskygirl]

Sorry for going off topic here. My husband was deathly ill when he was diagnosed. He was given two weeks to live and the doctors and dialysis unit staff said it was a miracle he was still alive because in cases like his the patient would have died. Do I believe in miracles, Guardian Angels, and a Superior Being helping him. Yes, but I also believe the doctors, the dialysis unit staff, the transplant team, and his donor and her family had a major hand in saving him. It was definitely a team of highly trained medical staff who step up to the plate and keep him well enough so one day he could get on the plane and travel to Seattle to receive a new kidney. In Cathy's case, she needs to learn what miracle means because I am bet dollar to donuts, the doctor meant something else.

[yogi2014L]

1 hour ago, bigskygirl said:

Sorry for going off topic here. My husband was deathly ill when he was diagnosed. He was given two weeks to live and the doctors and dialysis unit staff said it was a miracle he was still alive because in cases like his the patient would have died. Do I believe in miracles, Guardian Angels, and a Superior Being helping him. Yes, but I also believe the doctors, the dialysis unit staff, the transplant team, and his donor and her family had a major hand in saving him. It was definitely a team of highly trained medical staff who step up to the plate and keep him well enough so one day he could get on the plane and travel to Seattle to receive a new kidney. In Cathy's case, she needs to learn what miracle means because I am bet dollar to donuts, the doctor meant something else.

+1. I think doctors say that also when they cannot explain why a patient survives when 99.9999% of others die. Doesn't mean that they think God swooped down and saved that person SPECIFICALLY like these speshul snowflake fundies say- but that they maybe got a good combination of being lucky, good genes, great medical care ect ect 

My FIL in law was on deaths doorstep ( septic shock multisystem organ failure, month long coma , dialysis ect) and pulled through. Nobody can explain why or how he survived with a 100% recovery but when I explain it I say it was a miracle cause he really shouldn't have survived. We don't attribute his survival to <only> to God/the Universe/ what have you, but that he had amazing nurses and doctors, apparently very tough organs and probably a lot of luck. ( or maybe bad luck, because it was a surgical complication that led to all this).

 

Sorry for the tangent, but the whole God cured me just makes me stabby. At least we know where Derrick gets his crazy from.

Edited June 6, 2016 by yogi2014L
I don't make sense...:-)

[Sew Sumi]

She's also posted (Insta, I think) that cancer is really just the devil taking hold of one's body. She truly believes she is free of the devil now, which to me, lands her squarely in the land of the fundies. She may have raised Derick and Dan as Christians, but things really seem to have changed for them when Rick died so suddenly. The last one who succumbed was Dan, who was only formally baptized last year. I fully buy that he is convinced God healed his mother, and that he owes something to God for saving her. 

I always wonder what Mr. Byrum thinks of all this. Everytime he's been in a shot, he's looked extremely sour. 

[Arwen Evenstar]

Well if heaven forbid I got so near deaths door and was given little to no chance, I'd most definitely hope people were praying for me and if I made it, I'd be very grateful to both God and the talents He gave the docs to save me from an untimely death. That's just me, but I promise I wouldn't be telling the story in a way that would make any of you stabby, nor would I be all sanctimonious about it.  Cancer is scary.  I lost my dear father to it nearly 2 years ago. 

Like Aja pointed out, not everybody gets spared, and she's right about that.  Luck, good genes, a strong constitution, and a positive mental attitude, and great doctors help as well. I DO believe in miracles when the doctors are stumped as to how or why someone recovers.  I'm an engineer and I'm very much aware how science has been able to dispel and discredit most of the superstition and errant thinking of humanity. I believe faith and science can coexist. 

[bigskygirl]

19 minutes ago, Arwen Evenstar said:

Well if heaven forbid I got so near deaths door and was given little to no chance, I'd most definitely hope people were praying for me and if I made it, I'd be very grateful to both God and the talents He gave the docs to save me from an untimely death. That's just me, but I promise I wouldn't be telling the story in a way that would make any of you stabby, nor would I be all sanctimonious about it.  Cancer is scary.  I lost my dear father to it nearly 2 years ago. 

Like Aja pointed out, not everybody gets spared, and she's right about that.  Luck, good genes, a strong constitution, and a positive mental attitude, and great doctors help as well. I DO believe in miracles when the doctors are stumped as to how or why someone recovers.  I'm an engineer and I'm very much aware how science has been able to dispel and discredit most of the superstition and errant thinking of humanity. I believe faith and science can coexist. 

I definitely understand what you are saying. My problem with Cathy and the Duggars are the way they portray Cathy's recovery. The devil took over her body and was trying to take her soul and body. Really...Did the devil take over my husband's body? No, a nasty infection or bacteria slowly ate up his kidneys for ten to fifteen years. The Duggars including Derick and Cathy drive me crazy when they hide behind the devil is the cause for my illness or in Josh's case, molesting girls, jumping in bed with women while I was married, or looking at internet porn.

Btw, I am sorry to hear about your dad. I also believe praying and turning to God in time of crisis can help, but I do not think God should get all the credit.

[duggarshow]

On 6/2/2016 at 9:20 AM, yogi2014L said:

 

Anyone see Jill asking the internet to find Cathy's birthmom????

I find it really, really shitty of her to put Cathys bio mom ( who seems to be deceased - apparently the leghumpers can google while JillyMuffin can only tweet???) on blast. No consideration for Cathy's biological mom or her biological mom's family. SMDH. What if she had other children who didn't know that she had given up a kid for adoption? Now they find out on twitter...

 

Meh. A lot of people search for birth parents and other family members this way. Since Cathy was tagged in this post, I'm sure she knew Jill was posting it and wasn't offended.

[Aja]

If Cathy did know Jill did that, it's a trifle odd that she would neglect to mention to Jill that she found her birth mother when she was 27 years old, and her birth mother didn't want anything to do with her. All signs point to disingenuous (at best) grab for attention/TV show.

[Sew Sumi]

Yes, I was the first one who acknowledged that Cathy likely sanctioned this twitter blast. But until people did some digging into Cathy's twitter timeline, it became apparent that Cathy had already found this woman when she was 27. So, what's the point now? It seems really selfish, and I say this as an adoptee who could use these same underhanded tactics to try to locate my birth mother. 

[Arwen Evenstar]

Big Sky Girl, I totally get where you're going with all of this, particularly as far as the Duggs and the Dills are concerned.  

The ways that near death experiences actually affect people can actually make some people go off the deep end. It's the whole Duggar affiliation that spoils her story.

Thanks for your condolences about my dad.

[Sew Sumi]

And as for God curing her, I also really resent that. I guess my devoutly Christian parents fell short in the faith department, since they both succumbed to this horrible disease. Hell, my dad even had NHL like Cathy, but unfortunately before the bone marrow transplants (oh HAI! modern medicine) were available. So yeah Cathy, I'm glad that you are cancer-free, but give credit where it's really due. 

[riverblue22]

On a different topic, I was at Starbucks earlier today and saw a poster advertising an "adoption fair."  It was hosted by Lutheran Family Services and another agency and invited people to come learn all about adoption.  They pictured a little girl who seemed to be from India, so I guess there still are international adoptions from some places.

[NewDigs]

So sorry for so much loss. Can sometimes feel like a world of hurt. Peace.

 

 

19 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

I can't remember what thread we were talking about the girls and their earrings, but I noted that I hoped that Jill got hers from the locals rather than Wally World. And lookie what Dullard posted! 

PS: LMAO that this post also takes the heat off Jilly and his mother, although Cathy has apparently tweeted that they have the information that they were looking for. 

Well, that microbusiness would not have taken fifteen duffels to transport and could do so much!

Now it's an "FU interwbez" Instagram.

[JoanArc]

2 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

She's also posted (Insta, I think) that cancer is really just the devil taking hold of one's body. She truly believes she is free of the devil now, which to me, lands her squarely in the land of the fundies. She may have raised Derick and Dan as Christians, but things really seem to have changed for them when Rick died so suddenly. The last one who succumbed was Dan, who was only formally baptized last year. I fully buy that he is convinced God healed his mother, and that he owes something to God for saving her. 

I always wonder what Mr. Byrum thinks of all this. Everytime he's been in a shot, he's looked extremely sour. 

"What happened to your first husband?"

"Satan killed him."

"Oh, that's sad. Satan built a fortress in my husbands heart. He uses it as a BDSM dungeon with hookers."

"Oh, so you understand!"

These people are nuts.

Jill if you're reading, please do an FU explains in of this. If you can't, it makes you look like the tactless, brainless nitwit you are. 

Oh, and I'm a nurse. I see incredible things all the time, kids that should die but don't, kids that should live, but don't. People that would lived if they had better jobs, or more money, or more education, or insurance. You know, things Jilly needs to get cracking on in Danger America. It always amuses me that Cathy types give God all the credit, but still let me put the IV in their arms. Wanna be consistent? Become Christian Scientist types.

[MunichNark]

11 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

She's also posted (Insta, I think) that cancer is really just the devil taking hold of one's body. She truly believes she is free of the devil now, which to me, lands her squarely in the land of the fundies. She may have raised Derick and Dan as Christians, but things really seem to have changed for them when Rick died so suddenly. The last one who succumbed was Dan, who was only formally baptized last year. I fully buy that he is convinced God healed his mother, and that he owes something to God for saving her. 

I always wonder what Mr. Byrum thinks of all this. Everytime he's been in a shot, he's looked extremely sour. 

No!!!! Good grief, what a stupid fucking bitch. I lost my Mum to this when I was just 17, it's not fun. I'd really like to bitch slap her for that.

[Lemur]

I lost my dad four years ago this month to cancer, so both Jill and cancer can go get fucked sideways.  (Pardon my language, but really.)  Satan didn't kill my father, the aggressive and rare cancer that metastasized from his kidney to his spinal cord to his brain did.  That, and the old man's refusal for three years to go get mystery back pain looked at.  Satan my ass.  

[Aja]

I'd also like to know what it means when Cathy finally does die, the way all humans do. Does that mean God's fountain of love for her has dried up? Isn't there a whole afterlife to look forward to? Isn't that the whole point of spitting at everyone on Earth about how superior you are?

[yogi2014L]

17 hours ago, duggarfan said:

Meh. A lot of people search for birth parents and other family members this way. Since Cathy was tagged in this post, I'm sure she knew Jill was posting it and wasn't offended.

I'm less concerned for Cathy than I am the birth moms entire family. Addtionally, JillyMuffin is part of a dsyfunctional reality tv show family that has been all over the media for the better part of the last year with sex/molestation scandals. There were better and more tactful ways to find out the information, but they lack the self awareness to know that. 

[BitterApple]

12 minutes ago, yogi2014L said:

I'm less concerned for Cathy than I am the birth moms entire family. Addtionally, JillyMuffin is part of a dsyfunctional reality tv show family that has been all over the media for the better part of the last year with sex/molestation scandals. There were better and more tactful ways to find out the information, but they lack the self awareness to know that. 

I am as well. We don't know what the bio mom did or didn't tell her family regarding Cathy's birth and subsequent adoption. To be blindsided with that information when your mother has already passed is just cruel, IMO. Not to mention, if Cathy was already turned away once, why go barking up the same tree? I don't fault her for wanting answers, but sometimes it's best to let bygones be bygones.

[auntieminem]

On June 5, 2016 at 11:27 PM, DangerousMinds said:

hOW exactly can the Dullard "ministry " take any credit for that beautiful jewelry?

I don't like the kind of mission work they seem to be doing but I will give them a tiny thumbs up that they are helping facilitate this.  Now if they would do more concrete help vs Jesus blah, blah, blahing.  A snippet from the Dillards' blog a couple of weeks ago.

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As I’ve mentioned before, it’s always been our desire to model our ministry on Jesus Christ, who did not separate the work of physical provision with that of spiritual enlightenment.  Each week, after a time of Bible study lead by a local pastor named Max, there is time devoted to skills development that enables people, who are otherwise unable to produce an income, the means to provide for themselves and their families.  We have partnered with another local believer named Ruth, who is skilled in teaching crafts.  With supplies generously donated from the Church in the US, Ruth is teaching about 20 women how to make a new piece of jewelry each week.  Once these women have completed Ruth’s teaching program, they can then employ their newfound skill to strengthen themselves and their communities. 

[duggarshow]

20 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

Yes, I was the first one who acknowledged that Cathy likely sanctioned this twitter blast. But until people did some digging into Cathy's twitter timeline, it became apparent that Cathy had already found this woman when she was 27. So, what's the point now? It seems really selfish, and I say this as an adoptee who could use these same underhanded tactics to try to locate my birth mother. 

 

Maybe Cathy found her years ago but lost touch again since the reunion seemed to go badly. To the adoptee(s) on this forum, is that possible?

[sometimesy]

Well, the family might relish the idea of appearing on the Duggs. They could be rabid leghumpers. It seems the mother wanted this chapter of her life closed and Cathy and friends did not honor that, (if they really believed she was still living).

[Arwen Evenstar]

I wonder if they were actually trying to find the birth mother's extended family.  If that was the case, they went about it badly.

[satrunrose]

5 hours ago, BitterApple said:

I am as well. We don't know what the bio mom did or didn't tell her family regarding Cathy's birth and subsequent adoption. To be blindsided with that information when your mother has already passed is just cruel, IMO. Not to mention, if Cathy was already turned away once, why go barking up the same tree? I don't fault her for wanting answers, but sometimes it's best to let bygones be bygones.

Exactly. This has been my biggest take-home from family research and genealogy. Sometimes, a lot of times actually, there are no answers to explain an event decades after the fact when many, if not all of the key players are dead. At best you may get a telephone-esque "well, so-and-so told so-and-so twenty years later and they told me..."

[ginger90]

Sounds like Cathy will be writing a book.

[Featherhat]

2 hours ago, Arwen Evenstar said:

I wonder if they were actually trying to find the birth mother's extended family.  If that was the case, they went about it badly.

Probable. But like a lot of people I remain convinced it was so they could drum up publicity and storylines for their show. We're thinking of adopting!" Now by sheer chance here are all of Derek's mother's bio family that have never met each other before except they came together via Duggarism, JOY! Izzy loves his new family. Pics!

There seems unlikely to be a new baby for either J wife so far for whatever reason and any budding courtships suitable for TV titillation have not materialised even if they might have been planned to appear. A season over angsting about a never going to happen adoption complete with long lost bio relatives was the juiciest they could hope for. Otherwise watching the Duggar sisters with one baby each cook very badly and show how awful they are as "helpmeets" (their stated goal not mine) is fantastically boring.

[Marigold]

My mom died of cancer and statements like Cathy's always rub me th wrong way. Like my mom wasn't worth a miracle too?  We prayed and prayed and prayed. She had the best team of doctors in NYC and she still died.  

BTW, I am a Christian but am careful how I word things and what I say because it leaves the other person wondering "well, what the heck happened to me???"

[Arwen Evenstar]

On June 5, 2016 at 5:10 PM, ariel said:

Or a Chia Pet.  They would probably find a way to screw that up that venture too.

Speaking of pets, does anyone know what happened to the countless dogs/kittens that were featured on their show?  What happened to that poor cat that Derrick & the family gleefully tried to run over with a sled?

They posted a picture of one of The Howlers cuddling a kitten recently...no doubt an attempt at the backlash for trying to run over a cat with a sled.