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hoosier80
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New show title: 10 to 20 Years and Counting 

MargeGunderson
MargeGunderson

Someone on Reddit just described Josh’s face as a glistening glazed ham. I am considering divorcing my husband and marrying that poster. 

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doodlebug

Well, for many of us, it's the difference between 'imperfect' and 'non-PC' and being a criminal.  Josh is a child molester and his parents actively intervened in his situation to avoid him being punis

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Churchhoney

Churchhoney

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21 hours ago, BitterApple said:

So Boob's making Josh sell used cars again. If that isn't the ultimate fuck you, then I don't know what it is. Boob was always mad that Josh defied him and went to D.C. against his wishes. Should we set the over/under as to when Josh has a complete meltdown or just walks away and never comes back? I'm going with eight months. Or maybe earlier, if Anna announces she's expecting M#5.

I'm torn. I don't believe he's happy living in the Kingdom of God aka Jim Bob. He certainly doesn't want umpty-ump children, as Anna and, I assume, JB and M want for him. So I can see a meltdown.

On the other hand, selling used cars in rural Arkansas really is his level, in terms of his skill set, cultural background and so on. He doesn't have to spend every day worried that somebody'll call him out as a professional/intellectual fraud, as I expect he worried every day in DC. And he has to know that it's a heckuva lot easier to hold a job supplied by Jism Bob than it is to leave the family compound and seek and land a job from somebody else. And Josh and the Duggars generally are about nothing if they're not about "law of least effort." So while I can see him freaking out over the religion/"morals" aspect, I can also see him contenting himself with the situation based on the employment/paycheck aspect.

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Minivanessa

Minivanessa

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I think that Josh either has the needed dealer credential to sell cars in Arkansas, or he is working through a Duggar business entity that does. He did run that car lot in the past, so he does know something about that stuff. Also, the vehicle is on a trailer and we don't know that it was parked for display illegally, or that other vehicles were. It is possible, or likely, that the Duggs bought the vehicle at auction or wholesale and towed it home on that trailer.

Edit: one or two of the pics in the article looked to me like it was on a trailer and then offloaded. Could have been some kind of display stand, now that I looked again. Either way, I won' t get my shorts in a knot about it.

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At least Smugs gets to be outdoors and wear shorts.
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Lemur

Lemur

2 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

It's so bizarre that they can do that. In my state not only are there laws about how many cars non dealers can sell, there is also laws about how many unregistered vehicles one can have on their property at any given time. And there is no way anyone would be allowed to line up and park cars that are for sale along the highway. And then there are Lemon Laws; in my state only an individual citizen can sell a car "as is", or a car dealer can wholesale a car to another dealer "as is". If anyone of them is a registered used car dealer they have to fix certain things on any car they sell up to 90 days after the sale.

The laws are in place to keep people from running an unregistered business in a residential zone. They don't want folks to avoid paying taxes, avoid following guarantees, and cluttering up neighborhoods with parked cars.

They'd be shut down in my neck of the woods.

Yeah, but isn't Duggar Kingdom on unincorporated land?  If that's the case, they may not have any zoning restrictions about beaters on the lawn.

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Minivanessa

Minivanessa

2 minutes ago, Lemur said:

Yeah, but isn't Duggar Kingdom on unincorporated land?  If that's the case, they may not have any zoning restrictions about beaters on the lawn.

^^That's possible. But, do we know that they actually have any "beaters" - or other vehicles - for sale parked on the lawn? Or is all this an assumption based on a few photos in People magazine? 

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Rabbittron

Rabbittron

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5 minutes ago, Lemur said:

Yeah, but isn't Duggar Kingdom on unincorporated land?  If that's the case, they may not have any zoning restrictions about beaters on the lawn.

Remember only God made laws apply to them. The laws that we follow do not apply in their fundie lifestyle.

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Dog jumped on tablet and submitted it to early.
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Lemur

Lemur

Just now, Jeeves said:

^^That's possible. But, do we know that they actually have any "beaters" - or other vehicles - for sale parked on the lawn? Or is all this an assumption based on a few photos in People magazine? 

Of course not!  Stop ruining the fun.  All they need is a dead washing machine on the front porch and they've attained stereotype bingo.

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bigskygirl

bigskygirl

Reminder: Do not go down the Josh will do something to his kids road. The mods have reminded all of you more than once not to speculate Josh has or will molest his children or other young children. Posts bringing up this sensitive subject will be edited, hidden or deleted at the discretion of the mods. Thank you.

GeeGolly

GeeGolly

3 hours ago, Jeeves said:

^^That's possible. But, do we know that they actually have any "beaters" - or other vehicles - for sale parked on the lawn? Or is all this an assumption based on a few photos in People magazine? 

 

3 hours ago, Lemur said:

Of course not!  Stop ruining the fun.  All they need is a dead washing machine on the front porch and they've attained stereotype bingo.

In the episode where Jinger was dabbling at buying cars at auction, they had cars lined up and for sale, with a highway shown. And I believe other pictures were posted prior to that. I got the impression the cars were parked on land they owned, not necessarily the lawn of their home. No one, including the gossip magazines, has shown a car lot, with the jeep or the red truck that had auction lettering, are ending up, but most the dealerships in my area have paved lots where they display their cars.

With the Duggars however, you never know what is staged or exaggerated though.

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sometimesy

sometimesy

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Josh is insulated and cozy in the family and bible-believing cult. He has been since the Ashley Madison thing had him sent to RU. But, how long can he endure these Orwellian conditions? Even if Anna smiles, it might just make him want to punch a wall when she checks his social media. It works for him right now, but how long will it last. 

At least he is doing something worthwhile to contribute to his family. He probably does some renovations for the house flipping Duggar income stream as well. Funny that he could end up making a living out of a punishment he started as a 'young boy'. 

I really want Josh to leave and get his M&M's out of the cult.

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OpieTaylor

OpieTaylor

On 5/19/2016 at 10:25 AM, GeeGolly said:

 

In the episode where Jinger was dabbling at buying cars at auction, they had cars lined up and for sale, with a highway shown. And I believe other pictures were posted prior to that. I got the impression the cars were parked on land they owned, not necessarily the lawn of their home. No one, including the gossip magazines, has shown a car lot, with the jeep or the red truck that had auction lettering, are ending up, but most the dealerships in my area have paved lots where they display their cars.

With the Duggars however, you never know what is staged or exaggerated though.

I agree - in that episode, I recall one of the Duggars also saying that they were selling cars on a piece of property (land?) that JBoob owns. 

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Churchhoney

Churchhoney

1 hour ago, sometimesy said:

Josh is insulated and cozy in the family and bible-believing cult. He has been since the Ashley Madison thing had him sent to RU. But, how long can he endure these Orwellian conditions? Even if Anna smiles, it might just make him want to punch a wall when she checks his social media. It works for him right now, but how long will it last. 

At least he is doing something worthwhile to contribute to his family. He probably does some renovations for the house flipping Duggar income stream as well. Funny that he could end up making a living out of a punishment he started as a 'young boy'. 

I really want Josh to leave and get his M&M's out of the cult.

 I agree. Somehow I don't see him doing it, though. For some reason he reads as essentially a weakling and a coward to me. I hope he proves that a wrong impression. It'd be better for him and for everybody else if he just walked away from all of them, I think. Anna'll never leave him otherwise, I expect.

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sometimesy

sometimesy

1 minute ago, Ljohnson1987 said:

Boys can't defraud, but GOD forbid if a girl shows her knees or pregnant stomach.

They've really relaxed the skirt length, and although they don't show skin, they have great pride in their preggo tummies and squeeze into clothing to focus on their 'accomplishment'. (Usually framed by their husbands hands). Modesty standards have changed for males and females, yay. I think Josh looks fine in shorts and t-shirt and glad he now has that option. Hope we never see him swimming in pants again. 

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Muffyn

Muffyn

On ‎5‎/‎20‎/‎2016 at 7:05 PM, Arwen Evenstar said:

PPS. Please no more goofy selfies of the two of you sharing a malt or a soda.  Not cute.

 

On ‎5‎/‎18‎/‎2016 at 7:23 AM, Rabbittron said:

The boys are allowed to wear shorts as only the girls defraud males. Males do not defraud females. 

To be fair, even Naked Josh would have a hard time defrauding someone.  He is imminently punchable and everything about him shuts down all ovaries except for Anna's.  Josh is birth control.

 

On ‎5‎/‎19‎/‎2016 at 6:31 AM, Lemur said:

Of course not!  Stop ruining the fun.  All they need is a dead washing machine on the front porch and they've attained stereotype bingo.

Add a broken Big Wheel and a Trans Am up on blocks and you've got the trifecta! 

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SometimesBites

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6 hours ago, Muffyn said:

 

To be fair, even Naked Josh would have a hard time defrauding someone.  He is imminently punchable and everything about him shuts down all ovaries except for Anna's.  Josh is birth control.

 

Add a broken Big Wheel and a Trans Am up on blocks and you've got the trifecta! 

In my part of the world it's also pretty important to include at least one piece of upholstered furniture, vintage circa 1982.

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bigskygirl

bigskygirl

I think a reason behind the changes in the lot locations were due to the bank closing the leases on the lot. Knowing Josh, he probably was too lazy to properly run the car lots his daddy owned. I bet he is not working too hard now either. He probably is expecting another political based job because people will forgive him for his cheating on his wife and watching porn one day.

Sew Sumi

Sew Sumi

38 minutes ago, bigskygirl said:

I think a reason behind the changes in the lot locations were due to the bank closing the leases on the lot. Knowing Josh, he probably was too lazy to properly run the car lots his daddy owned. I bet he is not working too hard now either. He probably is expecting another political based job because people will forgive him for his cheating on his wife and watching porn one day.

Well, we know that no business currently operates under the name of Duggar Automotive, but could they be operating a lot under a different name that goes beyond the cars we were shown lined up on that grassy strip of land (owned by Boob) beside a highway? Is there any way to look up Boob's name to see if he operates any businesses in his county (the name of which I can't recall) or Benton County, which I believe is the neighboring county containing Bentonville and Rogers? 

Because you KNOW that Boob has set something up for his Prodigal Son. He may resent Josh for ruining 19 Kids, but he can't admit failure, because that would mean his entire lifestyle is rubbish. For that reason, Boob will prop up his sons in "business" ventures, just to prove to the world that his belief in Gothard and the Gothard-sponsored Financial Freedom seminars aren't complete bullshit. 

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GeeGolly

GeeGolly

5 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

Well, we know that no business currently operates under the name of Duggar Automotive, but could they be operating a lot under a different name that goes beyond the cars we were shown lined up on that grassy strip of land (owned by Boob) beside a highway? Is there any way to look up Boob's name to see if he operates any businesses in his county (the name of which I can't recall) or Benton County, which I believe is the neighboring county containing Bentonville and Rogers? 

Because you KNOW that Boob has set something up for his Prodigal Son. He may resent Josh for ruining 19 Kids, but he can't admit failure, because that would mean his entire lifestyle is rubbish. For that reason, Boob will prop up his sons in "business" ventures, just to prove to the world that his belief in Gothard and the Gothard-sponsored Financial Freedom seminars aren't complete bullshit. 

It wasn't Josh, it was that pesky devil. ;)

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kokapetl

kokapetl

Anna's grandma was Catholic!

DeLores J. Keller

Born: November 26, 1925
Died: May 15, 2016

DeLores Joan Keller of Lauderdale Lakes passed away May 15, 2016.

Delores is a mother of five, Terry, Sharon, Tom, Michael and Patrick, 18 grandchildren and 21 great grandchildren.

A Mass of Christian Burial will be celebrated Thursday, May 19, 2016 at St Paul The Apostle Catholic Church 2700 NE 36th St. Lighthouse Point, FL. Entombement will follow at Our Lady Queen Of Heaven Cemetery North Lauderdale, FL. In lieu of flowers donations can be made to St. Paul Catholic Church. 

 

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Sew Sumi

Sew Sumi

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Koka, just wondering where you got the pic of the Kellers, because Prissy did NOT post it (I thought that's where I saw it on Thursday, but apparently it wasn't). If Suze's IG is private, shouldn't it be taken down, even if someone like Pickles publicized it elsewhere?

Mods, where do we draw the line here? I'm not quite sure. I thought Suze's IG was public since I can view it, but TBH, I've never checked. She must have gone dark after I started following her? Maybe someone who doesn't follow on IG can check her page? Since I follow her, it doesn't give me that status since I'm already in. :)

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Churchhoney

Churchhoney

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7 hours ago, bigskygirl said:

One scary looking picture.

Really? Why? I think they look way closer to normal in that picture than in just about any other picture of these families that I've seen. If I didn't know who they were, I wouldn't think they even looked strange, let alone scary! What am I missing?

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I keep accidentally deleting words from these posts! What the heck?
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Aethera

Aethera

7 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

I have a PM to the mods. We may need to take the funeral pics (and pics of Noelle) down. 

Our general policy is that users should not re-post images from private social media accounts here. I know it's hard to tell whether someone's account is private if you follow them - the best thing to do is log out of that social media site (or just open a private window) and then try to access the link, to check.  This isn't something the mods will do on all images - we ask that you guys police yourselves on this. In this case, yes, we'd ask that those images get edited out, but I'm not going to go back and hide all the posts - I'll give people the chance to edit.  Thanks for respecting the privacy of the Duggar-related folks!

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Arwen Evenstar

Arwen Evenstar

I'm actually surprised Smuggs is welcome among the Kellers. No doubt Pa Keller sat him down and gave him a stern talking to. He's had to humble himself beyond recognition to reattach himself to the Duggar gravy train as well as being accountable to his FIL about how he treated his daughter.

Anna is either a nincompoop or eligible for sainthood. From her POV, Smuggs was her first,last, and only boyfriend and the only man she'd ever slept with. No doubt emotional ties are very strong and it must be tough for her to think there's going to be anyone else for her since she was brought up to believe that there was only to be one person for you and divorce under any circumstance was such a big no-no in her world.

sometimesy

sometimesy

7 hours ago, Arwen Evenstar said:

I'm actually surprised Smuggs is welcome among the Kellers. No doubt Pa Keller sat him down and gave him a stern talking to. He's had to humble himself beyond recognition to reattach himself to the Duggar gravy train as well as being accountable to his FIL about how he treated his daughter.

Anna is either a nincompoop or eligible for sainthood. From her POV, Smuggs was her first,last, and only boyfriend and the only man she'd ever slept with. No doubt emotional ties are very strong and it must be tough for her to think there's going to be anyone else for her since she was brought up to believe that there was only to be one person for you and divorce under any circumstance was such a big no-no in her world.

He's already done this before, he knows the magic spell, pray, ask for forgiveness, then like magic his sin is gone because Jebus, everyone has to let it go. Transgender and public schools are bad, Josh Duggar is good. Poof. 

Anna is a nincompoop.  

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