Small Talk: 1, 2, 3 Non-Cheerleader Conversation

[LadyMsJay]

On 9/24/2018 at 12:49 PM, PBSLover said:

Whoever said Dak was a one and done was correct. I want to think otherwise, but this team is playing poorly. Bad plays executed badly. 

I wasn’t a fan of Romo but he became pretty great when he wasn’t injured. Big mistake to let Dez go.

Dak was one and done because teams didn't have tape on him for his rookie year. Now that they do, they know what to expect and how he plays. It's clear he had Romo in his ear, but that wasn't enough.

Romo was good following through with a play that seemed to be over. While he did tend to choke in December, overall, he was a great QB to have when you needed a play.

As a Redskins fan, I don't care either way...lol

[RedDelicious]

Carrying over from Finals, Training Camp and Social Media, where I said re: DB: Honestly I'll be surprised if she makes it through the entire 9 month contract.  That's a long time to be in other parts of the world, if you've never lived away from your parents' home for any extended period time.  Sure there are all these things that seem so great, but at the end of the day it is a DRASTIC lifestyle change.  I'm still surprised that's what she chose to do.

Yes it's true that kids do it all the time and thrive, but DB is a 21 year old who has never lived away from home and never done anything without her mother.  So I really feel for her, because she seems extremely sheltered and very young.  Leaving for 9 months and not being able to come back at all is pretty extreme.  She has absolutely NO idea what's coming, and for that, I feel badly.  Homesickness is a horrible feeling.  I've lived on my own for 20+ years and travel a lot for work and I get homesick for my own house and my own bedroom/bathroom after a week on the road.  I can't imagine having to live in a tiny cabin with a roommate and no window for 9 months.  I know people who've done it, and it ain't pretty.

VK is a slightly different story; she only just graduated from high school.  But kudos to her for having enough college credits to qualify as a sophomore.  It's nice to hear she did well in school.  It will be interesting to see what she does.

[scorpio1031]

20 minutes ago, RedDelicious said:

Carrying over from Finals, Training Camp and Social Media, where I said re: DB: Honestly I'll be surprised if she makes it through the entire 9 month contract.  That's a long time to be in other parts of the world, if you've never lived away from your parents' home for any extended period time.  Sure there are all these things that seem so great, but at the end of the day it is a DRASTIC lifestyle change.  I'm still surprised that's what she chose to do.

Yes it's true that kids do it all the time and thrive, but DB is a 21 year old who has never lived away from home and never done anything without her mother.  So I really feel for her, because she seems extremely sheltered and very young.  Leaving for 9 months and not being able to come back at all is pretty extreme.  She has absolutely NO idea what's coming, and for that, I feel badly.  Homesickness is a horrible feeling.  I've lived on my own for 20+ years and travel a lot for work and I get homesick for my own house and my own bedroom/bathroom after a week on the road.  I can't imagine having to live in a tiny cabin with a roommate and no window for 9 months.  I know people who've done it, and it ain't pretty.

Several of her mother's students have done this, so she has some idea of what to expect.  Her parents plan on taking cruises, and with social media, she can FaceTime, Skype, whatever.  On her Insta-stories the other night, she sounded so excited.  This will be good for her.  As a dancer, you have to do this kind of stuff while you are young and your body can handle it.  Plus, she will be going to 27 countries, perform in three shows and will make so many friends, she will hopefully have no time to be homesick. 

[RedDelicious]

I totally get it and I know there are exciting aspects to it, but I also think reality is going to set in pretty quick :*(  If someone has never been away from home, I can imagine something so drastically different would be a pretty traumatizing first experience.  Skype and FaceTime are great, if one person is consistently up in the middle of the night to do it.  Holidays are going to be particularly difficult.  I'll think positive thoughts for her though, and I hope it goes well for her.  I've been homesick and had to work on long trips and miss a lot of family stuff, and it feels like sh*t.  I remember planning my friends entire bachelorette party and crying my eyes out in the airport because my work trip was extended and I couldn't come home to host it like I was supposed to.  I had to let my friend down.  I missed some graduations and I think a couple birthdays as well.  I once spent Valentine's Day at White Castle in a snow storm in Buffalo freaking New York, when I had a boyfriend for the first time in years on actual Valentine's Day.  Having to be away kind of left a mark on me, and that's why I feel the way I do.  So if it didn't work out, I sure as hell wouldn't blame her for peace-ing out.

Edited September 27, 2018 by RedDelicious

[ShellyB]

1 hour ago, scorpio1031 said:

Several of her mother's students have done this, so she has some idea of what to expect.  Her parents plan on taking cruises, and with social media, she can FaceTime, Skype, whatever.  On her Insta-stories the other night, she sounded so excited.  This will be good for her.  As a dancer, you have to do this kind of stuff while you are young and your body can handle it.  Plus, she will be going to 27 countries, perform in three shows and will make so many friends, she will hopefully have no time to be homesick. 

 

1 hour ago, RedDelicious said:

Carrying over from Finals, Training Camp and Social Media, where I said re: DB: Honestly I'll be surprised if she makes it through the entire 9 month contract.  That's a long time to be in other parts of the world, if you've never lived away from your parents' home for any extended period time.  Sure there are all these things that seem so great, but at the end of the day it is a DRASTIC lifestyle change.  I'm still surprised that's what she chose to do.

Yes it's true that kids do it all the time and thrive, but DB is a 21 year old who has never lived away from home and never done anything without her mother.  So I really feel for her, because she seems extremely sheltered and very young.  Leaving for 9 months and not being able to come back at all is pretty extreme.  She has absolutely NO idea what's coming, and for that, I feel badly.  Homesickness is a horrible feeling.  I've lived on my own for 20+ years and travel a lot for work and I get homesick for my own house and my own bedroom/bathroom after a week on the road.  I can't imagine having to live in a tiny cabin with a roommate and no window for 9 months.  I know people who've done it, and it ain't pretty.

VK is a slightly different story; she only just graduated from high school.  But kudos to her for having enough college credits to qualify as a sophomore.  It's nice to hear she did well in school.  It will be interesting to see what she does.

Dayton has been away plenty and isn’t sheltered. Since the age of 11, she has been attending Ballet Intensives all over the US during the summer months, without me, for up to 6 weeks at a time. If I didn’t know people personally that have worked for RCL, we probably would be hesitant. She’s got a pretty good head on her shoulders. And for the record, the audition wasn’t a trigger reaction. It has been on her list of things to do, and it was the last on listed on their website at that time, so we jumped on it. 

[Montana99]

@bigskygirl - I vaguely recall you mentioning being a lawyer or did I make that up?  I haven’t had a chance to make it to a Griz game this year but I’m crossing my fingers we get some UM Dance squad members (sugar bears in my day) to try out for DCC now that Megan C. is coaching. 

[bigskygirl]

4 minutes ago, Montana99 said:

@bigskygirl - I vaguely recall you mentioning being a lawyer or did I make that up?  I haven’t had a chance to make it to a Griz game this year but I’m crossing my fingers we get some UM Dance squad members (sugar bears in my day) to try out for DCC now that Megan C. is coaching. 

@Montana99 I am not a lawyer. I have a cousin who works for the U of M Security Office. I would love to meet Megan myself. I know former Cowboys standout Pat Donovan went to Helena High for two years. It would be nice to have a girl from Montana try out and make the squad.

Edited September 28, 2018 by bigskygirl

[PBSLover]

Okay, so The Girls Next Door. I didn’t watch the show nor did I pay much attention but this is what I remember my friend telling me.

Holly was brought in as someone’s (Kendra or Bridget - not sure which) friend. She was one of those girls who just stays in the house but is not on the magazine people’s radar to be considered a Playmate. Maybe just a website girl? I can’t remember. Anywho, she was in the house and I guess from wherever she came, she didn’t want to go back, so Holly decided to make the most of an opportunity and initiated sex with Hef. I believe both Bridget and Kendra were fine with it (got them off the hook - mostly) but some rivalry did occur, which is normal for young pretty girls who have nothing to do all day but tan, get their nails done and shop. I believe the relationship between Holly and Hef was intensely sexual, which Hef loved, and he became enchanted with her. She was just using Hef; he was a stepping stone to the next, bigger opportunity. Hef fell in love and wanted to marry Holly, thinking this was all real. Holly considered getting pregnant for all the wrong reasons but then realized Hef wanted a life with her. She decided she was in over her head and left. He was heartbroken. He truly loved her and didn’t understand, I guess at some point he came to realize, that she had been using him.  I’m not sure he ever got over it.  

Edited October 3, 2018 by PBSLover

[tinabee1967]

Well, that's just really sad. I always though Hef was nothing more than a very unattractive dirty old man with only his wallet to offer, but even so, he did not deserve to be used like that. I am sure Holly is not the first girl who used him. A few of his exes wrote tell all books, and then Crystal Harris broke off her engagement to him, used their break up time for shameless self promotion, then married him later on.

Edited October 3, 2018 by tinabee1967

[PBSLover]

I think I saw her at the animal hospital near me a few weeks ago. This girl I was speaking with and I both thought it was her. She had on large sunglasses so we couldn’t really see her face  but after she left, I asked the gal if she thought it was her and she agreed that it was.

[PrincessLeia]

5 hours ago, PBSLover said:

Okay, so The Girls Next Door. I didn’t watch the show nor did I pay much attention but this is what I remember my friend telling me.

Holly was brought in as someone’s (Kendra or Bridget - not sure which) friend. She was one of those girls who just stays in the house but is not on the magazine people’s radar to be considered a Playmate. Maybe just a website girl? I can’t remember. Anywho, she was in the house and I guess from wherever she came, she didn’t want to go back, so Holly decided to make the most of an opportunity and initiated sex with Hef. I believe both Bridget and Kendra were fine with it (got them off the hook - mostly) but some rivalry did occur, which is normal for young pretty girls who have nothing to do all day but tan, get their nails done and shop. I believe the relationship between Holly and Hef was intensely sexual, which Hef loved, and he became enchanted with her. She was just using Hef; he was a stepping stone to the next, bigger opportunity. Hef fell in love and wanted to marry Holly, thinking this was all real. Holly considered getting pregnant for all the wrong reasons but then realized Hef wanted a life with her. She decided she was in over her head and left. He was heartbroken. He truly loved her and didn’t understand, I guess at some point he came to realize, that she had been using him.  I’m not sure he ever got over it.  

Kendra went to the mansion about a year after Holly. Holly got there when Hef still had 7 girlfriends. Bridget was already there, so I bet she was Holly’s friend. 

 

Don’t feel sorry for Hef. He used the girls just as much as they used him. I have a friend who is close to Kim Conrad, his ex wife. They defend Hef like crazy, but it’s easy to see he had major issues, and from what I heard, he loved to create drama between the girls. Once the show became a massive hit, everything got better, but then it was over. I just don’t buy the story that Hef is this innocent victim taken advantage of by all of these girls!!!! 

[nittanyvolleyball]

From what I've read in Holly's book, she came first when he had like an insane amount of "girlfriends" and they were bitches to her. I highly recommend reading Down the Rabbit Hole. It's wayy better written than Kendra's book, even if some things probably aren't true.

[parrotfeathers]

I guess I'll never understand the attraction some women had for Hefner (excepts perhaps the money).  Same as that sister wives guy--at least he could wash his hair.  He must be really good at something though.

[tinabee1967]

2 hours ago, parrotfeathers said:

I guess I'll never understand the attraction some women had for Hefner (excepts perhaps the money).  Same as that sister wives guy--at least he could wash his hair.  He must be really good at something though.

What is his name, Kody?? Yeah.....if he was hitting on me at a bar, I would throw a drink in his face immediately. He sure ain't Bradley Cooper.

[Kayce]

2 hours ago, parrotfeathers said:

I guess I'll never understand the attraction some women had for Hefner (excepts perhaps the money).  Same as that sister wives guy--at least he could wash his hair.  He must be really good at something though.

Same here...he just seemed nasty to me.  

2 minutes ago, tinabee1967 said:

What is his name, Kody?? Yeah.....if he was hitting on me at a bar, I would throw a drink in his face immediately. He sure ain't Bradley Cooper.

Oh he makes me want to throw up in my mouth a little bit....gag!!!

[tinabee1967]

2 hours ago, parrotfeathers said:

I guess I'll never understand the attraction some women had for Hefner (excepts perhaps the money).  

Rumor had it, Hef had pretty serious financial issues once internet porn became much more popular. Why pay for his stuff when you can download whatever for gratis? So, the $$$ stuff within the last several years, anyway, did not hold much water. It was all fame for his harem. 

[tinabee1967]

6 minutes ago, Kayce said:

Same here...he just seemed nasty to me.  

Oh he makes me want to throw up in my mouth a little bit....gag!!!

 

[parrotfeathers]

TInabee that was funny!

[PBSLover]

6 hours ago, PrincessLeia said:

Don’t feel sorry for Hef. He used the girls just as much as they used him.

I don’t. I just told what I knew, though the timeline is incorrect. Hef totally used all the girls at the Mansion but this one time, he got screwed over. Literally. 

[tinabee1967]

15 minutes ago, PBSLover said:

I don’t. I just told what I knew, though the timeline is incorrect. Hef totally used all the girls at the Mansion but this one time, he got screwed over. Literally. 

Crystal said he did not even last two minutes. ?

[Kayce]

31 minutes ago, tinabee1967 said:

 

 

OMG...that's hilarious!  I still want to throw up a tad though!

[PBSLover]

40 minutes ago, tinabee1967 said:

Crystal said he did not even last two minutes. ?

She’s another one who used Hef. The last wife, yes? She left Hef, started dating Dr. Phil’s son, who wants a music career, as I believe Crystal did. Then she decided marrying Hef was a better deal for her and went back to Hef. He married her but it was a contract marriage.

Edited October 3, 2018 by PBSLover

[PrincessLeia]

1 hour ago, PBSLover said:

I don’t. I just told what I knew, though the timeline is incorrect. Hef totally used all the girls at the Mansion but this one time, he got screwed over. Literally. 

Oh I wasn’t talking directly to you! Just a general statement. 

9 minutes ago, PBSLover said:

She’s another one who used Hef. The last wife, yes? She left Hef, started dating Dr. Phil’s son, who wants a music career, as I believe Crystal did. Then she decided marrying Hef was a better deal for her and went back to Hef. He married her but it was a contract marriage.

I’ve always wondered about the last few years with Crystal. She kept her head down and from what I’ve heard stayed devoted when his health really deteriorated. But I wonder....there just isn’t much info out there because so many people were let go at the mansion in those final years.

[PBSLover]

3 hours ago, PrincessLeia said:

I’ve always wondered about the last few years with Crystal. She kept her head down and from what I’ve heard stayed devoted when his health really deteriorated. But I wonder....there just isn’t much info out there because so many people were let go at the mansion in those final years.

My friend was gone by the time Crystal went back to the mansion but she was kept informed. Crystal wanted the $1 million dollars she was to get in the marriage and anything else Hef would leave her. 

[PBSLover]

Hef was a bad at business. For all the groundbreaking he achieved in his youth, he never kept control of the brand. He just sold and sold it until the name was in the toilet. Many companies have come in and tried to revive Playboy, but it’s not working. His daughter really ruined the company and it never gained back the fame it had.

They are bringing back Playboy Clubs, like they had in the ’60’s and ’70’s. The New York and Chicago clubs stayed open through the ’80’s but those closed as well. Not sure if it will work but they sure were glamorous back in the day.

Edited October 3, 2018 by PBSLover

[PrincessLeia]

44 minutes ago, PBSLover said:

My friend was gone by the time Crystal went back to the mansion but she was kept informed. Crystal wanted the $1 million dollars she was to get in the marriage and anything else Hef would leave her. 

I can’t believe she settled for only $1 million. ? He bought her a house too.... as of spring it was on the market for maybe $7 million? Can’t remember. She was not in his will, so I wonder what else he gave her if anything before he died.

[PBSLover]

43 minutes ago, PrincessLeia said:

I can’t believe she settled for only $1 million. ? He bought her a house too.... as of spring it was on the market for maybe $7 million? Can’t remember. She was not in his will, so I wonder what else he gave her if anything before he died.

The prenup was $1 million. I don’t know the rest of the details. I do remember hearing something about a house. 

She seemed rather lost in life. I don’t know her background. She wasn’t particularly nice. I had drinks with her and Dr. Phil's son and my friend one night. I found her to be a bit odd. Having a conversation was difficult for her.

[PBSLover]

In the Vanity Fair article that was posted on another board, there is a reference to a are documentary, Daughters of the Sexual Revolution: The Untold Story of the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders.

It screened in April in Dallas at the USA Film Fest and it is screening at the Tallgrass Film Festival (no idea what city it is in) on October 20th. If it goes directly to dvd/on demand I will let everyone know. I can’t imagine a distributor will pick up but you never know.

Edited October 9, 2018 by PBSLover

[PBSLover]

I found this...doesn’t look great but.

https://film.avclub.com/what-was-it-like-to-be-a-dallas-cowboys-cheerleader-in-1829629763

Last comment about this, then I’ll stop.

It did get a distributor. Comes out on November 2nd for a Oscar-qualifying release and will be available on VOD on the same day.

Side comment: Won’t You Be My Neighbor will win best doc this year so I doubt this will go far.

[hypeman]

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Edited October 10, 2018 by hypeman

[qtpye]

On 8/18/2018 at 3:12 AM, Law Mom said:

The bottom line is that I don't live in a rural area in the 1950s, where welcoming salespeople into my home was the most convenient way to buy cleaning products and I had to go to a party to buy food storage containers. Walmart, Target, and Ulta are five minutes away. There is a great selection and no one nags me when I go there. Amazon Prime ships in two days. Wayfair has just what I need.

 

 

On 8/18/2018 at 6:39 PM, PBSLover said:

Did anyone see this? The outgoing Miss America is spilling the tea!

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/17/style/miss-america-cara-mund-gretchen-carlson.html

 

On 8/19/2018 at 7:55 AM, PrincessLeia said:

I can’t imagine how being in pageants could be healthy for anyone. 

 

On 8/19/2018 at 9:08 AM, parrotfeathers said:

If you watch her DCC TC intro, she intimated that the Miss America pageant people controlled everything they did and said.  

Dccfan thanks for answering on the year!

 

On 8/19/2018 at 2:04 PM, scorpio1031 said:

I like the ones who admit they used the pageants to get scholarship money.  They got their degree and never looked back.

 

On 8/20/2018 at 9:29 PM, Loves2Dance said:

“Miss America is fragile right now,” Ms. Mund concluded. “She needs all of us if she is going to survive.”

Maybe 'she' shouldn't survive. I think it's time to let Miss America become a thing of the past. 

 

On 8/20/2018 at 10:51 PM, scorpio1031 said:

Like anything else, it needs to move forward with the times, and it also needs to be run by supportive women if all of this is true.  All I'm seeing is a bunch of "Mean Girls" as @PBSLover says.  Women need to be able to choose their cause and be supported in that, as well as in all other opinions, thoughts, actions, etc.

And don't throw fruit, I've never seen "Mean Girls."  

These statements have shown that Amercian Women have gotten past the "beauty pageant" mentality that really was originally awarding the woman who most met the traditional applications of feminine beauty and achievement. I have nothing against feminine beauty but am happy that many women are getting out of this mindset. I used to read this article from a journalist who would do wild and crazy things and then write about them (like joining a competitive eating contest). One time she decided on a fluke that she would enter the Mrs. DC contest (Omarosa was a title holder) even though she really was not "pageant" material. On the day of the contest, she shows up in her swimsuit and was shocked to find that she was the only contestant and therefore wins by default!  This particular pageant stream fed into a national Mrs. America pageant and this meant that she would be representing DC on the national stage. The pageant coordinators were panicking and replaced the lady with someone else (the lady was relieved because she was only doing this for her article and had no interest in competing on the national stage). After reading that article I realized that beauty pageants were dying and truthfully, it might not be a bad thing. There are many other opportunities these days for women to win scholarships.

I was watching a documentary on competitive cheerleading at the Junior High level. Someone was asking the coach why the parents were devoting so much time and money for a sport that will really "go nowhere" when compared to things like tennis, soccer, and gymnastics. The coach actually let out a mean girl sigh (he was a man by the way) and said that CHEERLEADING WAS SPECIAL. because no one cared about those other types of female athletes and cheerleaders were queens of the schools.

These queens of the school things kind of reminded me of DCC. I know we have heard a lot about how horribly NFL cheerleaders are paid and many women have said they will do this job for free in order to get the chance to perform. I know many of the girls are dancers ( I was a dancer myself many ages ago) but I do think there is a "beauty queen" mentality among this particular group of cheerleaders. The demure little girl attitude combined with the barely-there costume (Yes, I know dance costumes tend to be skimpy to show off lines) screams of women who are going to let their youth and good looks be exploited for pennies, while others rake in millions because they buy into a particular type of feminine mystique. 

Edited October 16, 2018 by qtpye

[PrincessLeia]

I just don’t see a place for beauty pageants in today’s world. They initially gave women opportunities when they had limited options, but women today don’t really need beauty pageants to earn scholarship money etc. I’m no feminist, but I personally wouldn’t want to see my girls in the pageant world. 

[parrotfeathers]

10 hours ago, PrincessLeia said:

I just don’t see a place for beauty pageants in today’s world. They initially gave women opportunities when they had limited options, but women today don’t really need beauty pageants to earn scholarship money etc. I’m no feminist, but I personally wouldn’t want to see my girls in the pageant world. 

No one here is probably old enough to remember "Queen for a Day."

[PBSLover]

20 hours ago, parrotfeathers said:

No one here is probably old enough to remember "Queen for a Day."

Meeeeee!!!!!  It was on tv and I remember the hype. I don’t remember watching any episodes though.

[CrazyInAlabama]

When I was little we would drive up to L.A. for the day, and I saw the set for Queen for a Day.   It was tiny, very unlike what it looked like on TV.   And a family friend knew someone who went on it and was Queen.   The stove she received was a tiny apartment size, and everything else was equally underwhelming, and was nothing like the gift packages they showed on TV, and you still had to pay income tax on the full retail price.   

[parrotfeathers]

57 minutes ago, CrazyInAlabama said:

When I was little we would drive up to L.A. for the day, and I saw the set for Queen for a Day.   It was tiny, very unlike what it looked like on TV.   And a family friend knew someone who went on it and was Queen.   The stove she received was a tiny apartment size, and everything else was equally underwhelming, and was nothing like the gift packages they showed on TV, and you still had to pay income tax on the full retail price.   

Well that's a jip.  Good thing there was no internet back then.

[raindancer]

I can't imagine anyone is going to see this or necessarily be able to help if they do, but can anyone in the Dallas area tell me anything about the Stay Alfred, or the area surrounding it?  I've never heard of it, but my best friend's daughter is stuck there right now - she is just 18, and went on her first road trip with her best girlfriend, who ended up having a meltdown and kicking her out of her room.  The people there have been really wonderful to her and helped her get her own room, so she's safe for now (and she was able to get a plane ticket home for tomorrow), but my heart is absolutely aching for both her and for my best friend.  She was already worried about her daughter being on her own and to have this happen is just so hard on them both.  If there's anything anyone can tell me that I can pass on to either of them, please let me know - I'm so worried about them both ?

[Kayce]

12 hours ago, raindancer said:

I can't imagine anyone is going to see this or necessarily be able to help if they do, but can anyone in the Dallas area tell me anything about the Stay Alfred, or the area surrounding it?  I've never heard of it, but my best friend's daughter is stuck there right now - she is just 18, and went on her first road trip with her best girlfriend, who ended up having a meltdown and kicking her out of her room.  The people there have been really wonderful to her and helped her get her own room, so she's safe for now (and she was able to get a plane ticket home for tomorrow), but my heart is absolutely aching for both her and for my best friend.  She was already worried about her daughter being on her own and to have this happen is just so hard on them both.  If there's anything anyone can tell me that I can pass on to either of them, please let me know - I'm so worried about them both ?

How awful for that young lady and her mom....I hope that friendship is now severed.  I hope she has a safe flight home tomorrow.  

[raindancer]

16 hours ago, Kayce said:

How awful for that young lady and her mom....I hope that friendship is now severed.  I hope she has a safe flight home tomorrow.  

thank you so much, she is home and safe now....I'm just really grateful, it could have been such a very different situation had the staff at the hotel not been as helpful as they were.  I was hoping so hard to be able to reassure my bestie but there is just nothing you can do that will even begin to touch that kind of mama fear, even though she was holding it together incredibly well.  Her daughter is brilliant and insightful, but she is also just 18 years old, and doesn't have the experience or emotional maturity to handle those kinds of problems without help.  It makes my heart ache for her that this happened - I know this was supposed to be one of her absolute closest friends, but I'm very much with you in hoping she will stay no-contact.  She had blocked her from everything once she had a safe place to be, but I know how hard it is to cut people off sometimes, even when you know you should.  Hopefully she'll stay firm about it though, the whole situation is appalling and sad ?

[EricaShadows]

I'm sorry she had to go through that, especially with someone she was so close to.  At least your best friend's daughter made it home safely and can get the support she needs from her family and people like you.

[Kayce]

4 hours ago, raindancer said:

thank you so much, she is home and safe now....I'm just really grateful, it could have been such a very different situation had the staff at the hotel not been as helpful as they were.  I was hoping so hard to be able to reassure my bestie but there is just nothing you can do that will even begin to touch that kind of mama fear, even though she was holding it together incredibly well.  Her daughter is brilliant and insightful, but she is also just 18 years old, and doesn't have the experience or emotional maturity to handle those kinds of problems without help.  It makes my heart ache for her that this happened - I know this was supposed to be one of her absolute closest friends, but I'm very much with you in hoping she will stay no-contact.  She had blocked her from everything once she had a safe place to be, but I know how hard it is to cut people off sometimes, even when you know you should.  Hopefully she'll stay firm about it though, the whole situation is appalling and sad ?

So glad to hear she is home safe and sound.  This was a very sad situation for this young lady...when a "friend" shows true colors and turns out to not be the person she thought she was.  

[PBSLover]

On the road in a strange place is a bad time to have a meltdown and shove your best friend out of the hotel room. I hope the friend gets a talking to and realizes how dangerous her actions were. How would she feel if her friend had done that to her? 

Happy that all is well. That kid was scary irresponsible.

[jlc]

On 10/16/2018 at 10:25 PM, parrotfeathers said:

No one here is probably old enough to remember "Queen for a Day."

I remember that show! I was a kid, but I used to watch it and I wanted to be "Queen for a Day" so bad! I still wouldn't mind being a queen for a day!

[PBSLover]

@Christineelgene posted:

Not sure if this is the right forum, but the documentary “Daughters of the Sexual Revolution: The Untold Story of the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders” is now available on Amazon Video, for rent or sale.  Since I doubt the movie will hit the theatres in semi-rural Minnesota, I bought it and it was very good.

I brought this to the non-show thread.

I saw some clips of the doc and I thought it looked kind of bad. Like why in the world is the filmmaker sitting next to the interviewee? Why? He wasn’t asking her questions. It looked low rent to me but I am interested in seeing so I might just rent it.

[scorpio1031]

58 minutes ago, PBSLover said:

@Christineelgene posted:

Not sure if this is the right forum, but the documentary “Daughters of the Sexual Revolution: The Untold Story of the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders” is now available on Amazon Video, for rent or sale.  Since I doubt the movie will hit the theatres in semi-rural Minnesota, I bought it and it was very good.

I brought this to the non-show thread.

I saw some clips of the doc and I thought it looked kind of bad. Like why in the world is the filmmaker sitting next to the interviewee? Why? He wasn’t asking her questions. It looked low rent to me but I am interested in seeing so I might just rent it.

They showed some clips on the Today show and interviewed some former DCC.  It was interesting that Suzanne Mitchell insisted that the girls were either students or had a job, in addition, to being a DCC.  She wanted them to have a life outside the organization.  I sometimes think that K&J don't consider that important anymore.

[raindancer]

13 hours ago, Kayce said:

So glad to hear she is home safe and sound.  This was a very sad situation for this young lady...when a "friend" shows true colors and turns out to not be the person she thought she was. 

 

6 hours ago, PBSLover said:

On the road in a strange place is a bad time to have a meltdown and shove your best friend out of the hotel room. I hope the friend gets a talking to and realizes how dangerous her actions were. How would she feel if her friend had done that to her? 

Happy that all is well. That kid was scary irresponsible.

 

14 hours ago, EricaShadows said:

I'm sorry she had to go through that, especially with someone she was so close to. 

Yeah it's just so appallingly selfish and nasty....I think this young lady clearly has issues but I just can't imagine how she could do something like that.  The only thing I can think of is that she just didn't understand the magnitude of what she was doing....neither she nor my friend's daughter have ever lived anywhere outside of a very small, very safe town (just over 15,000 people, and it is the biggest "city" for three hours in any direction).  Neither one of the girls have the kind of context for what can happen when you're abandoned with no resources in a major city you have never been to before.  Then again, typing that out, it just made me mad all over again, because it should still be completely apparent (and quite apart from the relative danger, it was just plain nasty).  Just glad my bestie has the kind of mama skills she does, and hoping that having had this experience might save her daughter more grief down the line.

On a lighter note, I'll have to check out the Daughters of the Sexual Revolution movie.  I actually just watched the Jane Seymour movie on DCC for the first time on YouTube not too long ago, and I really liked it.  I know this is constantly brought up on the boards here, but I am wishing so hard I could see the one-hour special.  I never have, and I can't find even clips of it on YouTube, and I've always been so curious.  I get such a kick out of how much things have changed over the years, in pretty much every way.  Microblading gets some serious hate, but it is a million times better than the Cruella deVille brows and Cheeto-worthy spray tans everyone seemed to rock back in the day.  I know I had some questionable brow tweezing (probably an 8 on the scale of 1 to Cruella), and although I desperately wanted to rock a spray tan, the only time I ever tried was a hard fail (spray tan drips are far more obvious when you could generally probably guide air traffic by the intensity of your paleness).  My attempts were def not DCC-worthy ?

[EricaShadows]

1 hour ago, raindancer said:

Yeah it's just so appallingly selfish and nasty....I think this young lady clearly has issues but I just can't imagine how she could do something like that.  The only thing I can think of is that she just didn't understand the magnitude of what she was doing....neither she nor my friend's daughter have ever lived anywhere outside of a very small, very safe town (just over 15,000 people, and it is the biggest "city" for three hours in any direction).  Neither one of the girls have the kind of context for what can happen when you're abandoned with no resources in a major city you have never been to before.  Then again, typing that out, it just made me mad all over again, because it should still be completely apparent (and quite apart from the relative danger, it was just plain nasty).  Just glad my bestie has the kind of mama skills she does, and hoping that having had this experience might save her daughter more grief down the line.

On a lighter note, I'll have to check out the Daughters of the Sexual Revolution movie.  I actually just watched the Jane Seymour movie on DCC for the first time on YouTube not too long ago, and I really liked it.  I know this is constantly brought up on the boards here, but I am wishing so hard I could see the one-hour special.  I never have, and I can't find even clips of it on YouTube, and I've always been so curious.  I get such a kick out of how much things have changed over the years, in pretty much every way.  Microblading gets some serious hate, but it is a million times better than the Cruella deVille brows and Cheeto-worthy spray tans everyone seemed to rock back in the day.  I know I had some questionable brow tweezing (probably an 8 on the scale of 1 to Cruella), and although I desperately wanted to rock a spray tan, the only time I ever tried was a hard fail (spray tan drips are far more obvious when you could generally probably guide air traffic by the intensity of your paleness).  My attempts were def not DCC-worthy ?

Oh, I know about the pale (though I'm not pasty white).  One of my coworkers was teased about sparkling when he went outside in the sun and he replied with something like "As long as no one calls me Edward." 

I'm REALLY glad your bestie's daughter got home safe.  I can only wish I could have done something to help.  At least the girl's got a good head on her shoulders and hopefully that BFF of hers is now an EX-longtime-best-friend.  Frankly, I'd have been a blubbering mess at that age so good for her that she got herself another room and got home, hopefully with all the stuff she went there with (except the friend who caused all the drama).

Edited November 3, 2018 by EricaShadows

[PBSLover]

18 hours ago, raindancer said:

Microblading gets some serious hate

I want to get microblading!!!!

[PBSLover]

Brought this over from another thread.

Look at the mascot in this one. Plus, I love that the squad is all about the dance synchronicity - it’s a faith-based school:

[ElenaFR]

They look great! And their uniform looks comfy.