Black Panther (2018)

[wingster55]

1 hour ago, Apprentice79 said:

Cool, I am sure that some of those deleted scenes would explain W'Kabi's  nonsensical devotion to Erik and trying to kill T'Challa, after his return, when he was still the King. The challenge was ongoing.   It still does not make any sense to me and it hurts W'Kabi's viability, as a character. That was the weakest plot in the movie.

I don't know if this will explain everything but http://www.denofgeek.com/us/movies/black-panther/271682/black-panther-dvdblu-ray-release-date-bonus-features-and-deleted-scenes

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These are the Black Panther deleted scenes we can expect...

U.N. Meet and Greet

Okoye And W’Kabi Discuss the Future of Wakanda

T’Challa Remembers His Father

Voices from the Past

[Dee]

Apparently only Kings are allowed to go on bloodthirsty revenge driven vigilante murder sprees and not have their 'viability' compromised.

[ChelseaNH]

Well, the king wasn't targeting any of his fellow Wakandans, which might make a difference to some people.

[Spartan Girl]

Not to mention the king didn't sell out any of his friends in the process.

[wingster55]

In W'Kabi's eyes, T'Challa betrayed him. Broke the promise. 

And did he even know the reason Klaue escaped was because of Killmonger?

[Dee]

It doesn't matter whether or not, T'Challa targeted other Wakandans or sold out any of his friends.

Through his actions he betrayed the ideals of his people, his father's expressed wishes, and his own morals but he still gets to be viewed as a "good" man.

[Katsullivan]

No, he did not. 

16 hours ago, Dee said:

bloodthirsty revenge driven vigilante murder sprees

It wasn't a blood-thirsty "murder" spree because T'Challa wasn't running around the world murdering people who got in his way. He was hunting down not just his father's murderer, but the murderer of the sovereign ruler of Wakanda. Bucky was supposed to be remanded into Wakanda custody after his capture. There wasn't anything particularly blood-thirsty or murderous spree-ish about any of T'Challa's actions in Civil War, moreso since the realization that Bucky while technically his father's murderer, was a pawn, and even the real perpetrator was just another victim. 

This statement is not just an over-simplification, it's a straight-up distortion of facts.

[Jazzy24]

On 4/8/2018 at 8:00 AM, Spartan Girl said:

Seriously, that was a dick move on Kilmonger's part. And a dumbass move as well. The herb doesn't make you immortal, so who is going to be Black Panther and keep Wakanda in power when you die?

Killmonger burned the flowers that gave the Black Panther power cause he said that the sun would never shine on Wakanda again. I think he was going to make it where Wakanda wasn’t so powerful anymore. 

[Dee]

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No, he did not.

It wasn't a blood-thirsty "murder" spree because T'Challa wasn't running around the world murdering people who got in his way. He was hunting down not just his father's murderer, but the murderer of the sovereign ruler of Wakanda. Bucky was supposed to be remanded into Wakanda custody after his capture. There wasn't anything particularly blood-thirsty or murderous spree-ish about any of T'Challa's actions in Civil War, moreso since the realization that Bucky while technically his father's murderer, was a pawn, and even the real perpetrator was just another victim. 

This statement is not just an over-simplification, it's a straight-up distortion of facts.

 

Yes he did.

Prince or not, T'Challa was not allowed to hunt down his father's murderer nor the sovereign ruler of Wakanda. The whole point of the Accords, which both he and his father supported wholeheartedly, was that superheroes were to work through proper channels instead of acting like lawless vigilantes, which is exactly what T'Challa did because he believed himself above the law until almost the very last minute.

Also, it was a bloodthirsty murder spree. Because Ross states that people died during Bucky's escape.

The only opportunities for people to have died during his escape were in the building, in the helicopter and under the bridge. The film went through great pains to show Steve chastening Bucky for responding roughly to the soldiers attempting to capture him and Sam is only shown kicking the helicopter off target, without it crashing. So, by elimination the people who died had to have happened during the bridge chase, which was driven in large part by T'Challa's illegal pursuit of Bucky.  

T'Challa was happy to work through any channel, legal or illegal, to kill Bucky until he was confronted, after following Tony & thus skirting the law once again, with incontrovertible evidence of Bucky's innocence.

So, no the statement was neither an "oversimplification" nor a "straight up distortion of facts."

Edited April 18, 2018 by Dee

[Katsullivan]

2 hours ago, Dee said:

Prince or not, T'Challa was not allowed to hunt down his father's murderer nor the sovereign ruler of Wakanda. The whole point of the Accords, which both he and his father supported wholeheartedly, was that superheroes were to work through proper channels instead of acting like lawless vigilantes, which is exactly what T'Challa did because he believed himself above the law until almost the very last minute.

You should re-watch the  movie. The only superheroes who were not working through proper channels were Team Captain America. That was the whole point of "Civil War". Team Captain America going against Iron Man to help the Winter Soldier escape justice. And I think it's illogical to blame deaths caused in the wake of Bucky's escape on anyone but Bucky himself (at face-value, although of course, the Main Villain who was controlling him was ultimately to blame). Also everyone was chasing Bucky - Team Captain America, the police force and T'Challa. Singling T'Challa out as solely responsible for the casualties caused - again by Bucky's escape - is illogical. 

 

2 hours ago, Dee said:

So, no the statement was neither an "oversimplification" nor a "straight up distortion of facts."

At this point, I feel that I'm having a conversation with someone who's grasping straws to demonize T'Challa, something I'm not interested in encouraging or participating in so I'm backing out. 

Edited April 18, 2018 by Katsullivan

[Dee]

1 hour ago, Katsullivan said:

You should re-watch the  movie.

 

No. You should re-watch the film.

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The only superheroes who were not working through proper channels were Team Captain America. That was the whole point of "Civil War".

Actually they weren't the only superheroes not working through proper channels. Team Iron Man was just as guilty of making illegal moves and breaking the law.

Recruiting a high school kid, under ridiculously false pretenses, to fight super-powered adults in a war that was initially motivated in large part by the death of another teenager? Stalking & repeatedly attempting to murder a man who hadn't served due process? Unilaterally confining innocent people to indefinite internment "for their own safety?" Visiting a supermax prison, under false pretenses, to illegally interrogate inmates for the express purpose of interfering with an ongoing investigation? All illegal.

And the fact that Natasha helped Bucky escape and Tony attempted to carry out his own extrajudicial murder of Bucky certainly doesn't make Team Iron Man any sort of paragons of justice.

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Team Captain America going against Iron Man to help the Winter Soldier escape justice.

Except Team Cap was content to deal with their initial restrictions and allow Bucky to serve due process until Zemo interfered. Sam & Steve also considered consulting Tony even after Zemo's interference, until they rightfully concluded that neither the Accords, nor Tony, would be willing to grant Bucky the benefit of the doubt.

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And I think it's illogical to blame deaths caused in the wake of Bucky's escape on anyone but Bucky himself (at face-value, although of course, the Main Villain who was controlling him was ultimately to blame).

It's not illogical. In the least.

Bucky was willing to defend himself because he knew he was innocent.

It was T'Challa's reckless actions that unnecessarily escalated the situation.

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Also everyone was chasing Bucky - Team Captain America, the police force and T'Challa. Singling T'Challa out as solely responsible for the casualties caused - again by Bucky's escape - is illogical.

Again, it's not illogical.

Bucky was racing away from everyone, but T'Challa specifically.

His super speed, along with Sam & Steve's interference, allowed him to essentially evade the police altogether.

It was T'Challa's interference, and dogged illegal pursuit of an innocent man, that caused Bucky to rightfully act in self defense.  

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At this point, I feel that I'm having a conversation with someone who's grasping straws to demonize T'Challa, something I'm not interested in encouraging or participating in so I'm backing out. 

That's great because I have no desire to further engage with someone who resorts to unnecessary personal attacks when they have their erroneous assertions disproved.

Edited April 18, 2018 by Dee

[Browncoat]

13 hours ago, Jazzy24 said:

Killmonger burned the flowers that gave the Black Panther power cause he said that the sun would never shine on Wakanda again. I think he was going to make it where Wakanda wasn’t so powerful anymore. 

Quite the opposite -- Killmonger said the sun would never SET on Wakanda (much like the British Empire at one time), meaning he and Wakanda would rule/own the world. 

[ChelseaNH]

16 hours ago, Dee said:

Also, it was a bloodthirsty murder spree. Because Ross states that people died during Bucky's escape.

Unless T'Challa killed them, that would be a bloodthirsty felony murder spree.  Which is not where people's minds tend to go when they hear "murder."

[DollEyes]

My verdict: WOW!! I loved this movie so much! When I first heard that Black Panther would get his own movie after Captain America: Civil War, I was happy. When I saw who was involved on & off-screen, I was cautiously optimistic, tbh. Despite the track records by most of the people connected to it, I feared that if it flopped, the chances of another solo, big-budget Black superhero movie being made would be slim to none. Fortunately, Black Panther has turned out to be an endangered species: a movie that IMO not only lives up to its hype, it exceeds it. There have been Black superhero movies before, but Black Panther is the first one with a predominantly Black cast, a Black director (who co-wrote the script) & funded by a major studio. The soundtrack is on a Black record label & is Executive Produced by Grammy & now Pulitzer Prize winning rapper Kendrick Lamar-and if "All the Stars" & "Pray For Me" are any indication, I can see him winning a Best Original Song Oscar in his future.  Some parts of Black Panther were shot in Tyler Perry Studios, which is owned by Tyler Perry, which is historical in & of itself, but given the prospect of a "Madea In Wakanda" movie, the less said about that, the better. Like Superman the Movie, Superman II, Batman, Batman Returns, Spider-Man, Iron Man, X-Men, X-Man: First Class, X-Men: Days of Future Past, Captain America: The First Avenger, Captain America: the Winter Soldier, Captain America: Civil War, The Dark Knight, Deadpool,  Logan & Wonder Woman, before it, Black Panther has changed the game for superhero movies for the better.it's not just a movie; it's a full-fledged pop culture phenomenon. Theaters were rented out for underprivileged kids to see it.  Families saw it. People went in costumes to see it. People of all races have embraced it, which is wonderful, but is especially gratifying for me , as a dark-skinned Black woman, to see other dark-skinned sisters gain instant acceptance is beautiful, to say the least. For centuries, dark-skinned women, myself included, were called "ugly" & not just by White people-which is bad enough-but by my own people, which is even worse, but now there's a movie which not only acknowledges our beauty; it celebrates it. 

 

  While Black Panther is not "perfect (some of the visual effects in the finale were a little cheesy), the great far exceeds the bad. Acting-wise, Chadwick Boseman is Black Panther. He's even better here than he was in CA:CW. Like all great rulers, T'Challa is regal, smart, strong, humble, fair, loyal and kind. That T'Challa is also a superhero is even better.  Boseman perfectly captured both sides of both characters and their struggles. Both T'Challa & Black Panther are devoted to protecting his nation & its people. Speaking of which, to call Wakanda incredible would be an understatement. That an African country would not only survive but thrive without being noticed or exploited by the outside world is amazing. However, it couldn't last forever & it shouldn't have, IMO. Thanos wants the Infinity Stones & he'll destroy everything, everyone & everywhere to get them including Wakanda & when he arrives, hiding won't be an option anymore.  Michael B. Jordan's Erik Killmonger is equally flawless. Jordan's Killmonger belongs with Loki, Hela & Doc Ock among the great Marvel villains. Given how Erik saw his father N'Jobu killed by his own uncle King T'Chaka, who abandoned him, I felt sorry for Erik at first, until he became a homicidal bully who treats women like servants, targets or victims. Killmonger was right about history, but his solution was wrong, to put it mildly. Arming militants to kill any of the White citizens of countries who participated in slavery isn't justice; it's genocide. Killing millions of innocent people for something that's not their fault would have made Killmonger worse than his enemies, not better, as T'Challa knew. While Killmonger is ultimately responsible for his crimes, I believe that there's two more people to blame: N'Jobu & T'Chaka. If N'Jobu hadn't betrayed his people & corrupted his son, T'Chaka wouldn't have busted him in the first place. As for T'Chaka, Erik was family & he should have protected him after N'Jobu's death, not let him fend for himself. T'Chaka owed Erik that much. If T'Chaka had done right by Erik, he might have still had problems, but he probably wouldn't have become a merc/dictator.  However, as arrogant, selfish & delusional as Erik was, damn if his final wish wasn't heartbreaking. In the end, Erik just wanted to belong somewhere, especially in his homeland, but he went about it all wrong, whether it was robbery, trying to use the throne as a weapon to punish his enemies, desecrating Wakandan tradition, disrespecting women or committing cold-blooded murder. It was T'Chaka's cruelty to Erik that turned him into Killmonger If T'Chaka had seen Erik as as asset & not a liability, it might have made all the difference in the world. To quote an African proverb, "If a child is ignored by the village, he will take pride in burning it down." 

It was T'Chaka's mistakes that made T'Challa become the king he was meant to be, not the one his father used to be, hence his revealing Wakanda to the outside world. T'Challa's faith in the outside world may be somewhat naïve, but he won't make the same mistakes T'Chaka did.

  As for Andy Serkis & Martin Freeman, they stayed out of the way & kept me awake. They were just there; OTOH, Winston Duke's M'Baku was compelling from the moment he stepped out of the waterfall to challenge T'Challa. If only all African warriors were as strong, funny & sexy as M'Baku. 

  And the women! "Badass" doesn't even begin to describe them nor the women who play them. Lupita Nyong'o's Nakia is wonderful. Nakia's not just the "love interest;" she's strong in her own right. Nakia loves T'Challa but doesn't need him to define her. Angela Bassett is royalty personified. T'Challa may have inherited Wakanda from his daddy, but he got his wisdom, dignity & compassion from his mama. Danai Guirira's Okoye is a warrior through & through. She's so loyal to Wakanda that she'll let no man,no rhino -and, as the casino fight proved, no bad wig- get in her way. She's that fierce. Letitia Wright is fabulous. Her Shuri is brilliant & hilarious. In other words, she's a true Disney princess.

In other BP news, Chadwick Boseman, Ryan Coogler & Sterling K.Brown are part of TIME magazine's "100 Most Influential" of 2018.

Edited April 21, 2018 by DollEyes

[AimingforYoko]

On 4/17/2018 at 8:37 PM, Jazzy24 said:

Killmonger burned the flowers that gave the Black Panther power cause he said that the sun would never shine on Wakanda again.

No, he said the sun would never set on the Wakandan Empire. He was going to colonize the colonizers, as it were.

[Cobalt Stargazer]

On 2/17/2018 at 9:18 AM, Spartan Girl said:

I agree that MBJ was fantastic, especially in those last moments. But while I did feel empathy for what happened to him as a child, I had no trouble hating him. I mean, this guy was proudly declaring he was going to murder children just for whatever their parents did. Not to mention killing all those other people, including his girlfriend/cohort. Like Loki, he played the victim to justify being an asshole. Okoye and T'Challa were right: he was no different than the people he hated, and someone with that much hate inside doesn't deserve to be a leader. 

Sorry, had to get that off my chest.

Yeah, this was me. Erik's anger over his father's murder and his abandonment were justified, but he was his own undoing. If he'd managed to kill T'Challa, there wouldn't be a world for Thanos to invade, Killmonger would have already watched it burn. Gotta say I was surprised to see him pull the dagger out of his chest so he could die quickly, though.

 

On 2/18/2018 at 1:00 AM, healthnut said:

Does anyone know what was with the bumps (or whatever they were) on Killmonger’s body?

Ritual scars, basically. When he and T'Challa were getting ready for the challenge, Erik removed his shirt and said that he'd given himself one mark for each kill he'd made, that every death was "training" for the day when he would try and take the throne.

Still need to unpack a bunch, so might come back after I decompress.

[Dee]

Black Panther is roughly 10 million shy from passing The Last Jedi on the all time highest grossing films list.

[AimingforYoko]

1 hour ago, Dee said:

Black Panther is roughly 10 million shy from passing The Last Jedi on the all time highest grossing films list.

Worldwide, I'm assuming. 'Cause it passed it domestically a while ago.

[anna0852]

I feel like I should go see it again to help the cause

[Apprentice79]

On ‎4‎/‎21‎/‎2018 at 3:04 PM, DollEyes said:

It was T'Chaka's mistakes that made T'Challa become the king he was meant to be, not the one his father used to be, hence his revealing Wakanda to the outside world. T'Challa's faith in the outside world may be somewhat naïve, but he won't make the same mistakes T'Chaka did.

Amen! I think that T'Challa became a true King, after he came back, from the ancestral plane, for the second time.  He became his own man and decided to follow his own instincts. Instead of following, the status quo that created Killmonger and a disillusioned N'Jobu.  He had already exhibited that trait, of helping outsiders, when he brought Bucky, to Wakanda, to be healed, after civil war. He also did that with the Martin Freeman character,  in the movie. 

In the second fight, with Killmonger, there was no hesitation, on his part, like before, at warrior falls.  He was going to kill Killmonger, to take back his throne.  I hear that we will see a different T'challa, in Infinity war, due to the events, that transpired in Black Panther.  Even though, T'Challa has revealed Wakanda to the world, I could still see him being fiercely protective of his kingdom. I don't think people could just walk into Wakanda like that.  There will be a rigorous vetting process, for those, that seek to come and live in Wakanda.  

[Dee]

4 hours ago, AimingforYoko said:

Worldwide, I'm assuming. 'Cause it passed it domestically a while ago.

Yep. And if it continues performing the way it has, in the same timeframe, it'll jump Harry Potter & The Deathly Hallows Pt. 2, to take the Top 8 position too.

[Bruinsfan]

I suspect it's going to end up at #7 all-time worldwide by the end of its run, but I don't see it having the legs to out-earn Furious 7.

[VCRTracking]

[hjmugillecuty]

I'm late to the thread, but I loved Black Panther. The story, the humor, the acting. Everything. I lived in what is now Democratic Republic of the Congo from age 8 to 13, and there were moments in the movie where I just felt "this is Africa, this is the continent". Oddly enough, it was the baskets in the marketplace that brought that feeling the strongest, so even the set decoration was perfect. I'm excited to see what comes next.

[Katsullivan]

21 hours ago, hjmugillecuty said:

I lived in what is now Democratic Republic of the Congo from age 8 to 13, and there were moments in the movie where I just felt "this is Africa, this is the continent".

Congo was the inspiration for Wakanda, interesting enough. 

[Dee]

The mythical deleted W'Kabi/Okoye scene has finally arrived!

[JessePinkman]

Shouldn't have cut that scene. They're both fantastic in it, in particular Daniel Kaluuya is phenomenal, it strengthens both characters arguments and gives W'kabi a very clear motivation. They could have cut Ross' VR plane fight by 2 minutes for this.

[Spartan Girl]

Fuck you, W'Kabi.  Okoye deserved better.

[VCRTracking]

W'kabi must have had those thoughts for a long time. It didn't just show up when Killmonger arrived.

Edited May 3, 2018 by VCRTracking

[stealinghome]

Okoye, DTMFA. You can do soooooooo much better!

[Apprentice79]

1 hour ago, VCRTracking said:

W'kabi must have had those thoughts for a long time. It didn't just show up when Killmonger arrived.

Exactly, Okoye told him that T'Challa had gotten Klaw, as promised, but, Killmonger took him away. He said that he did not care.. The scene above makes him look even worst than before.

Okoye, as usual, was awesome. Her grief for her king T'Challa and her sense of duty to serve the new king gives her so many layers.  I love her joy, upon, seeing that T'Challa was still alive..

[Cobalt Stargazer]

11 minutes ago, Apprentice79 said:

Exactly, Okoye told him that T'Challa had gotten Klaw, as promised, but, Killmonger took him away. He said that he did not care.. The scene above makes him look even worst than before.

Okoye, as usual, was awesome. Her grief for her king T'Challa and her sense of duty to serve the new king gives her so many layers.  I love her joy, upon, seeing that T'Challa was still alive..

Okoye's first loyalties are to her country and her king, and the only reason she doesn't agree to move against Killmonger is because he won the challenge fight as far as everyone knew. She may well love W'kabi very much, though why I have no idea after watching that scene, but she a warrior and a loyal Wakandan first.

[Perfect Xero]

We already knew that W'kabi favored being conquerors to hiding and isolationism from his earlier conversation with T'Challa in the movie and that his parents had been killed by Klaue who escaped justice for 25 years.

So I can kind of  see why the scene was cut, in that it didn't really provide much new information, just sort of restated his motivation. It's a really good scene though, and only 2 minutes, so it's kind of strange that they cut it.

The only real new bit here is that he knew Killmonger was the one who freed Klaue and that he blames T'Challa for letting this happen because he was playing nice with Ross and the CIA at the time, and Erik only sprung Klaue to kill him, so W'kabi just sees it as him expediting the thing that T'Challa was delaying/putting in jeopardy by involving outsiders.

[LydiaMoon1]

I loved, loved, loved this movie, but that doesn't stop me from saying this:

I would have gladly traded 2 minutes of the crappy-looking BP/Killmonger CGI fight at the end of the movie, along with Everett Ross' extended fighter plane flight of fancy for the two minutes of raw emotion displayed by W'Kabi and Okoye in that deleted scene, but that's just me. 

On a completely different note, I just wanted to comment on Killmonger burning the heart-shaped herb. I disapproved of the villain burning the flower beds, of course, but it never really bothered me in the sense that I figured it was like a forest fire. Entire forests can burn to the ground and spring back in no time. I guessing that's how they'll get around the repercussions of that scene.

Edited May 3, 2018 by LydiaMoon1

[Dee]

Another deleted scene. This time between Zuri & T'Challa.

[anna0852]

 I don't care if it would have ended up being a four-hour movie, I really wish they left in these scenes.

[Apprentice79]

They should have kept this scene above, in the movie,  to show T'Challa's love and admiration for his dad, it would have made his disillusion, even more impactful, when he found out that his dad, despite, his superpowers, was still an imperfect man. Plus, we would have seen more of Forrest Whitaker's Zuri.   The Zuri/T'Challa  bond needed to be shown more. I hope we see him in BP2. Perhaps, T'challa has to commune with Bast, for some reason and sees Zuri.

Edited May 4, 2018 by Apprentice79

[ursula]

2 hours ago, Apprentice79 said:

The Zuri/T'Challa  bond needed to be shown more.

I agree. I believed the devastation T'Challa felt when Killmonger murdered Zuri --- but this scene would have allowed me to share that devastation, not just feel it. Here's hoping that one day, they release a Director's cut with all these scenes put in. (Or that some enterprising Youtuber will splice it together). 

[Dee]

Ryan Coogler Reveals What Happened to Killmonger's Mother

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Erik Killmonger's story is a sad one, even more so now that it has been revealed what happened to his mother. 

On the commentary track for the Black Panther Blu-ray, director Ryan Coogler talks about what happened to the off-screen character. 

Before the events of Black Panther, N'Jobu (Sterling K. Brown), the brother of the king of Wakanda, falls in love with a woman in Oakland and they have a child, who grows up to be Erik "Killmonger" Stevens (Michael B. Jordan). It is through his love for Erik's mother that N'Jobu changes his mind about the world outside of Wakanda, and decides he must help its people. 

At the start of Black Panther, the audience sees N'Jobu and a young version of Forest Whitaker's character, Zuri (Denzel Whitaker in the flashbacks), formulating a plan in an Oakland apartment.

"The idea was when you see those guys talking over the paperwork in the beginning of the film, they're talking about a way to break her out of jail," Coogler explains. "The idea was they never got her out, and she passed away in prison, so Killmonger didn't come up with a mom either."

Edited May 5, 2018 by Dee

[ursula]

9 minutes ago, Dee said:

"The idea was when you see those guys talking over the paperwork in the beginning of the film, they're talking about a way to break her out of jail," Coogler explains. "The idea was they never got her out, and she passed away in prison, so Killmonger didn't come up with a mom either."

Someone needs to write the fanfiction. :D

[Dejana]

On 5/1/2018 at 5:32 PM, Dee said:

The mythical deleted W'Kabi/Okoye scene has finally arrived!

 

This definitely should have been in the actual film!

Edited May 6, 2018 by Dejana

[Dee]

A third deleted scene. This time T'Challa/Nakia/Okoye/Ayo & Ross.

[ursula]

OMG, just how many deleted scenes are there? I thought Coogler was exaggerating, as directors are wont to do, about a 4-hour movie, but it looks like that might even be an understatement.

[Apprentice79]

1 hour ago, ursula said:

OMG, just how many deleted scenes are there? I thought Coogler was exaggerating, as directors are wont to do, about a 4-hour movie, but it looks like that might even be an understatement.

I am sure that there was so much more left on the cutting room floor. I need them to release the director's cut, stat!  I have a feeling that they may do that, in the future..

[stealinghome]

6 hours ago, Apprentice79 said:

I am sure that there was so much more left on the cutting room floor. I need them to release the director's cut, stat!  I have a feeling that they may do that, in the future..

Oh, they absolutely will. Disney doesn’t miss an opportunity to make money (unless it’s underestimating merchandise demand for non-straight white male characters, heh). I’m sure a director’s cut will be released eventually, maybe even in a box set with all the Marvel movies’ directors cuts—which will cost an arm and a leg, of course.

[Apprentice79]

51 minutes ago, stealinghome said:

Oh, they absolutely will. Disney doesn’t miss an opportunity to make money (unless it’s underestimating merchandise demand for non-straight white male characters, heh). I’m sure a director’s cut will be released eventually, maybe even in a box set with all the Marvel movies’ directors cuts—which will cost an arm and a leg, of course.

I think with the unprecedented success of Black Panther, they will do it, sooner, rather, than later.  People all over social media are clamoring for it. There are a lot of people who are now fans of the genre because of Black Panther.  I will spend money to see Ryan's whole vision of Black Panther, unedited. The man is so damn talented. Fruitvale Station that starred Michael B. Jordan,  haunted me for days... I will be so happy, the day, he wins an Oscar  in the future.. I expect Black Panther2 will be just as awesome. Chadwick has said that he, Ryan and the writers have plans in mind for the sequel. but, Ryan needs a break, to recharge, his creative juices..

Edited May 7, 2018 by Apprentice79

[xaxat]

Another behind the scenes disclosure from the director's commentary track. This Black Panther Clip Reveals One of M'Baku's Best Moments Was Improvised (I can't figure out how to embed the clip.)

That's pretty impressive. Not only is a a great moment, it was the absolutely perfect response. 

[Spartan Girl]

Ha!  M'Baku rules.

[Apprentice79]

4 hours ago, xaxat said:

Another behind the scenes disclosure from the director's commentary track. This Black Panther Clip Reveals One of M'Baku's Best Moments Was Improvised (I can't figure out how to embed the clip.)

That's pretty impressive. Not only is a a great moment, it was the absolutely perfect response. 

All of the actors praised  Ryan Coogler, for letting them, be a part of  the process in creating their characters. He always invited input from them. 

[ursula]

23 hours ago, Apprentice79 said:

All of the actors praised  Ryan Coogler, for letting them, be a part of  the process in creating their characters. He always invited input from them. 

I'm positive he'll get at least a Best Director nomination. Maybe not a win, but not because he doesn't deserve it.