Flip Or Flop - General Discussion

[millennium]

Messier and messier.

‘Flip or Flop’ Host Reveals Second Cancer Diagnosis, Says Illness Contributed to Split From Cohost/Wife

Who knows what really went down, or the timing of it all, but the addition of Tarek combatting testicular cancer to the already-established narrative of Christina flirting with the help doesn't do the couple any favors.

Edited May 8, 2017 by millennium

[MaryMitch]

On 4/2/2017 at 6:42 PM, Eeksquire said:

I'd love to see the "afters" WITHOUT the staging and then WITH the staging (and then, in a perfect world, with the actual belongings of the people who move into and live in the house instead of the furniture chosen by the designers unless they choose to buy it*, although I grant that that's unlikely).  Of course, I wouldn't mind a whole show about the stagers and how they do what they do (do they have warehouses full of furniture and home accessories? What's their inventory control system like?), but maybe that's just me.

That would be pretty interesting; I'd like to see that too!

[tessaforever]

Well, I took the plunge! My husband asked me what I wanted for Mother's Day, and I told him I wanted a lip pencil and lip gloss from Pink Dust Cosmetics, the brand that Christina promotes on Instagram. I don't plan on spackling my face with make-up, but I do like the lip colors Christina wears and they are supposed to be very long-lasting. 

It was funny because during checkout at the Pink Dust website, Christina's face was filling the entire screen behind the boxes where you enter your name, address, etc. My daughter was like, what are you buying?? Anyway, I'm excited!

[AngelKitty]

So I was just at the grocery store and saw a headline on one of the magazines that they are getting back together.  The headline was something like "Why I'm taking Tarak back." 

Anyone hearing anything about that?

[millennium]

On 5/11/2017 at 3:58 PM, AngelKitty said:

 The headline was something like "Why I'm taking Tarak back." 

For a refund, probably.

[chessiegal]

I used to follow them on FB, even after the split, but their posts lately are so blatantly trying to save the brand and promote their seminars, I unfollowed them. They had me fooled for while, but no more.

[ShellSeeker]

On 5/9/2017 at 1:31 PM, MaryMitch said:

That would be pretty interesting; I'd like to see that too!

There used to be a show on A&E called "Sell This House" which was exactly that. It was pretty interesting, and the whole premise was to help sellers stage their homes without spending a ton of money. Some of the stuff they came up with was really creative.

[topanga]

On 4/2/2017 at 6:42 PM, Eeksquire said:

I'd love to see the "afters" WITHOUT the staging and then WITH the staging (and then, in a perfect world, with the actual belongings of the people who move into and live in the house instead of the furniture chosen by the designers unless they choose to buy it*, although I grant that that's unlikely).  Of course, I wouldn't mind a whole show about the stagers and how they do what they do (do they have warehouses full of furniture and home accessories? What's their inventory control system like?), but maybe that's just me.

*I also want to know what all the furniture costs - I know with Fixer Upper and Love It Or List It the families are offered a discount if they decide to buy any of the staged furniture, but I want to know how much it is and where it comes from!

I liked the Follow Up episodes for that very reason. Although I usually hated the 'real' furniture. There was just too much of it. Those small homes were always jam-packed with stuff. 

[kalibean]

On 4/28/2017 at 9:04 PM, Chai said:

I hope they seek counseling if it's needed.

I think any time you find the solution to your problems as waving a gun in the air, counseling can't be a bad thing.  Especially when you need to co-parent.  

I didn't watch this show until earlier this year, and it was by accident.  I just needed some background noise while working on a sewing project, so flipped on HGTV.  I think they're both ridiculous and kind of deserve each other, but I like the show itself.  Maybe it's just the contractors, Pete, etc., but I find that I like (and agree) with Christina's design choices, no matter how bland.  I tend to fast forward through the family crap because I frankly don't care.  I also fast forward through the awkward negotiation part.  Really, I just want to see some of these crazy ass train wreck houses transformed.  It's the same reason I watch Fixer Upper.  The houses are just SO BAD most of the time, and I love a good before and after.

[azshadowwalker]

On 4/10/2017 at 8:27 AM, iMonrey said:

Alcohol is legal too but it's never cool to be drunk at your job.

And the evidence that she's stoned at work is Internet gossip and diagnosis-over-television? I think I will just walk away from that, since that is something I will never consider cool.

[Ringthane]

On 5/26/2017 at 1:17 AM, azshadowwalker said:

And the evidence that she's stoned at work is Internet gossip and diagnosis-over-television? I think I will just walk away from that, since that is something I will never consider cool.

Well, people are giving just as much credence to the idea that Tarek was throwing a gun around like a drum major at a homecoming game last year, when he was merely wearing it for protection from wild animals, so what do you really expect?

[iMonrey]

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And the evidence that she's stoned at work is Internet gossip and diagnosis-over-television?

Any stoner (or former stoner) worth his or her salt can spot someone stoned a mile away :-)

After having watched several of the Flip or Flop Vegas episodes I have a new appreciation for Christina's understated (if repetitive) designs. I look forward to the new episodes starting next week. For all their faults, at least Tarek and Christina have some personality, which is sorely lacking in the Vegas hosts I'm sorry to say.

[sue450]

saw an article today with pics christina dating some new guy and she looked really happy....I was disappointed with fliporflop las vegas...every time that guy says in the opening "I love my  life" I just want to slap him, it;s  so annoying

 

  just saw a commercial today for the new season of flip or flop stars next thursday

[Hotel Diva]

New Season Flip or Flop Thursday 9/8c

[sue450]

the guy christina is dating is someone she knew and dated before tarek..new season starts thursday..goingto be interesting

[kalibean]

On 5/28/2017 at 7:22 PM, Ringthane said:

Well, people are giving just as much credence to the idea that Tarek was throwing a gun around like a drum major at a homecoming game last year, when he was merely wearing it for protection from wild animals, so what do you really expect?

Well, the difference being that police were actually called amid several witness reports and Tarek agreed to voluntarily relinquish all of his firearms for safekeeping for 30 days. Deputies removed five guns from the safe in their house, and Tarek signed the property release form. That's all actually documented.

What I want to know is if he was wearing flip flops, because if the trail is dangerous enough to require a gun, it might also need actual hiking boots. If he was wearing flips, then maybe he did flip out. 

Either way, if they brought out the worst in each other, hopefully splitting corrects all that and they can be decent co-parents. 

[doodlebug]

7 hours ago, kalibean said:

Well, the difference being that police were actually called amid several witness reports and Tarek agreed to voluntarily relinquish all of his firearms for safekeeping for 30 days. Deputies removed five guns from the safe in their house, and Tarek signed the property release form. That's all actually documented.

What I want to know is if he was wearing flip flops, because if the trail is dangerous enough to require a gun, it might also need actual hiking boots. If he was wearing flips, then maybe he did flip out. 

Either way, if they brought out the worst in each other, hopefully splitting corrects all that and they can be decent co-parents. 

Yep, and the fact that it was his own wife who called the cops because she was concerned about his intentions.  If the incident was no big deal, just Tarek carrying a weapon for a hike in the woods (in a park where weapons are specifically outlawed); Christina wouldn't have called the cops in the first place and there would've never been multiple police reports documenting it.

[Zoe]

Is it just me or was the tile work really bad in this episode?

And hey, I just recognized the couple in Vintage Flip as the couple that teamed up with T&C way back when. So, when will Izzy get a show?

[Maharincess]

On 6/9/2017 at 9:43 AM, iMonrey said:

Any stoner (or former stoner) worth his or her salt can spot someone stoned a mile away :-)

After having watched several of the Flip or Flop Vegas episodes I have a new appreciation for Christina's understated (if repetitive) designs. I look forward to the new episodes starting next week. For all their faults, at least Tarek and Christina have some personality, which is sorely lacking in the Vegas hosts I'm sorry to say.

I'm the exact opposite.  I think Christina's "designs" are all the same in every episode and she has no design skills at all.  They do the same tile all throughout the house and its always the same color of tile. Everything is gray and white.  I prefer Vegas Flip's designs, at least they have color and personality. 

Speaking of personality, I'm the opposite in that area too. I've always thought Tarek and Christina were bland and stick-up-the-butt boring. The only personality I see from Christina is all fake,  her fake screams when she sees something "gross".  Everything about her seems fake to me.  

It looks like Christina has added another pound of makeup to her face.  I noticed they were both still wearing rings on their ring fingers. are they trying to fake us out? 

@Zoe, yes, the tile work was really bad. Tarek must have done it. 

[Hotel Diva]

Ewwww, this was a really gross house. All the designs, the rotten "turkey" that was left out for 20+ years, the master bedroom, everything was spot-on disgusting. At least they found a way to actually handle that mess.

[sistersledge]

Agreed- I'm not a fan of T&C's work (I actually like the vegas couple a lot more... their work is "bold" but I figure it's the market) but the tile in both the kitchen and bath was terrible! Would look dated fast. They should really stick to subway tile, I think. White usually makes small spaces look bigger.*

 

 

*reason #185739 of why I wouldn't live in California (overpriced and tiny homes)

[ByaNose]

I.did.not.like.the.tile.in.the.kitchen.or.bathroom.at.all. That said, while the house was small it turned out rather nicely. I just didn't care for the color & cuts of the tile.. Too many raised edges. It thought widening the door and opening up the breakfast bar really made the please a little more spacious. I'll give it a 7 out of 10. Also, those prices in California still shock me. What am I still shocked after all of these years? LOL!!!

[jquitar]

10 hours ago, Maharincess said:

I'm the exact opposite.  I think Christina's "designs" are all the same in every episode and she has no design skills at all.  They do the same tile all throughout the house and its always the same color of tile. Everything is gray and white.  I prefer Vegas Flip's designs, at least they have color and personality. 

Speaking of personality, I'm the opposite in that area too. I've always thought Tarek and Christina were bland and stick-up-the-butt boring. The only personality I see from Christina is all fake,  her fake screams when she sees something "gross".  Everything about her seems fake to me.  

It looks like Christina has added another pound of makeup to her face.  I noticed they were both still wearing rings on their ring fingers. are they trying to fake us out? 

@Zoe, yes, the tile work was really bad. Tarek must have done it. 

In the beginning they both had rings but when she was showing the tile selections  she covered her left hand with her sleeve (it looked like her arm was in a cast) and then at the end of the show neither were wearing rings.

[ByaNose]

Also, you can really tell Tarek is working out. He was all jacked by the end of the episode.

[sue450]

in the police report it showed that christina was shaking and crying when the police got there...that doesn't sound like her husband just grabbed a gun to protect from wild animals on the trail..and people living in that neighborhood there really aren't dangerous animals  in that area

[iMonrey]

They did exactly what I thought they would - no mention whatsoever of their relationship status. No "happy family" moments - we only saw the kids with Christina. It appears they aren't going to address the issue at all. I can't decide if that's the best option or not. It might be interesting if they just deal with it and say "Hey, we're divorced, but we're working together in business and raising our kids." 

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Is it just me or was the tile work really bad in this episode?

Yeah, it was. I didn't like any of it. I mean, they acknowledged that the floor tile turned out terrible - one piece of it looked OK but when they started putting them all together they didn't match up. But I didn't like the accent tile in the showers either, nor the back splash in the kitchen.

Also, there was no way in hell they didn't know up front they needed a new roof. Masses of shingles just scattered around on the roof? I don't think so.

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 I think Christina's "designs" are all the same in every episode and she has no design skills at all.  They do the same tile all throughout the house and its always the same color of tile. Everything is gray and white.  I prefer Vegas Flip's designs, at least they have color and personality. 

There has to be a happy medium. I agree Christina's "designs" are all the same: gray and white. But the houses always show really nice in the end, and you see the house, rather than the decor. So the consistently neutral choices have broad appeal and do not distract from the remodeling work they have done. Aubrey's designs are just too damn busy, she crams the house full of so much crap you don't even see the house. The decor is just too overwhelming.

I also think it's kind of funny Tarek and Christina always wind up with houses that are rotten and littered with trash and smell awful. Bristol and Aubrey just get plain, ordinary houses that are empty and need some cosmetic updating.

[Zoe]

5 hours ago, ByaNose said:

I.did.not.like.the.tile.in.the.kitchen.or.bathroom.at.all. That said, while the house was small it turned out rather nicely. I just didn't care for the color & cuts of the tile.. Too many raised edges. It thought widening the door and opening up the breakfast bar really made the please a little more spacious. I'll give it a 7 out of 10. Also, those prices in California still shock me. What am I still shocked after all of these years? LOL!!!

I think it could have looked okay, but it was not installed well. The grout was uneven in the kitchen, and they chose some bad cuts in the bathroom.

[WildPlum]

14 hours ago, iMonrey said:

They did exactly what I thought they would - no mention whatsoever of their relationship status. No "happy family" moments - we only saw the kids with Christina. It appears they aren't going to address the issue at all. I can't decide if that's the best option or not. It might be interesting if they just deal with it and say "Hey, we're divorced, but we're working together in business and raising our kids." 

Yeah, it was. I didn't like any of it. I mean, they acknowledged that the floor tile turned out terrible - one piece of it looked OK but when they started putting them all together they didn't match up. But I didn't like the accent tile in the showers either, nor the back splash in the kitchen.

Also, there was no way in hell they didn't know up front they needed a new roof. Masses of shingles just scattered around on the roof? I don't think so.

There has to be a happy medium. I agree Christina's "designs" are all the same: gray and white. But the houses always show really nice in the end, and you see the house, rather than the decor. So the consistently neutral choices have broad appeal and do not distract from the remodeling work they have done. Aubrey's designs are just too damn busy, she crams the house full of so much crap you don't even see the house. The decor is just too overwhelming.

I also think it's kind of funny Tarek and Christina always wind up with houses that are rotten and littered with trash and smell awful. Bristol and Aubrey just get plain, ordinary houses that are empty and need some cosmetic updating.

I thought that avoiding the whole issue of their relationship was a good idea. Anything they say could be regarded in a poor light, so saying nothing was probably best. They seemed to be getting along as well as they ever did - Christina slightly overspends and Tarek rolls his eyes and goes along, which is pretty much the status quo.

 

Remember that we have come to grey and white via dark cabinets and dark floors and as soon as something else becomes popular, we'll move that well as well. The advantage of grey and white is that it is very neutral, can go with ANY accents colors and particularly allows the "pop of color" items to shine.

Didn't care for the backsplash tiles, but since they put them up right over drywall without any surface prep, they'll come off fairly easily. The all-grey-tile shower is a different story, that will be an expensive fix. Didn't like it and I thought it made the shower stall look like a tiny freight elevator. On the other hand, what do I know, there was a bidding war for this house. These people can't be getting regular mortgages as I doubt the house would appraise that much higher than the comps, complete reno or no - I think the limit on a jumbo mortgage is $625,000 (it is $417,000 in most of the US except about 18 high-cost housing markets), so you'd think there would be a sweet spot right below that.

 

Agreed about Christina's stagers, they make the house look attractive and clean and even if you don't like the exact furniture and colors, it's easy to see the layout and flow of the space. Less is more in staging and the Vegas gal - who seems to design houses for singles who love the casino life and AirBnB owners who want Vegas kitsch - hasn't figured out that her staging makes the houses look tiny and cramped. At least if I bought the house in this episode, I'd only have to change out the one shower and the backsplash tile in the kitchen, everything else can stay (even if marble is not my favorite, waaay too slick for bathroom floors and easy to stain or markup as as a kitchen counter, although if you do a lot of baking, a marble surface is great). Most of the houses on the Vegas show, the flooring, counters, tile, sinks, brass crap and light fixtures would ALL have to go.

I've seen multiple episodes of T&C's show where the trash in the house - and particularly the graffiti - looked staged to me. But, yes, in general the houses are in poor shape, which is why they should never be surprised by cracked foundations, bad wiring, bad plumbing, dead HVAC, bad roofs, serious code violations, unpermitted additions, etc etc. I think it is part of the TV drama when they are, with a couple exceptions here and there that are things you could not catch by taking a very careful look at the property.

I think the difference in the amount of work needed is that the houses that T&C flip are purchased in the price range where you can do a new roof and  gut the kitchen and bathrooms and still make a tidy profit. A basic complete kitchen (cabinets, tile floor, countertops, appliances) is $15,000-$30,000 in both locations. If you buy a house for $370,000 and expect to sell it for $500,000 (a 35% increase), there is room to do all that work. If you buy a house for $175,000 and expect to flip it for $220,000 (a 25% increase) your costs are such that a new kitchen and a new roof are out of the question. The Vegas couple like to claim they "do the work" themselves, but if you look at mistakes on the shows, they are always blaming it on someone else while they were either out of town or on another site, no different than T&C. And there are always lots of people in the background in both shows, like the competent tiler workers that Tarek should let set all the tile instead of doing a sloppy job himself for the TV closeup.

Edited June 17, 2017 by WildPlum
added and typos

[ByaNose]

16 hours ago, WildPlum said:

I thought that avoiding the whole issue of their relationship was a good idea. Anything they say could be regarded in a poor light, so saying nothing was probably best. They seemed to be getting along as well as they ever did - Christina slightly overspends and Tarek rolls his eyes and goes along, which is pretty much the status quo.

 

Remember that we have come to grey and white via dark cabinets and dark floors and as soon as something else becomes popular, we'll move that well as well. The advantage of grey and white is that it is very neutral, can go with ANY accents colors and particularly allows the "pop of color" items to shine.

Didn't care for the backsplash tiles, but since they put them up right over drywall without any surface prep, they'll come off fairly easily. The all-grey-tile shower is a different story, that will be an expensive fix. Didn't like it and I thought it made the shower stall look like a tiny freight elevator. On the other hand, what do I know, there was a bidding war for this house. These people can't be getting regular mortgages as I doubt the house would appraise that much higher than the comps, complete reno or no - I think the limit on a jumbo mortgage is $625,000 (it is $417,000 in most of the US except about 18 high-cost housing markets), so you'd think there would be a sweet spot right below that.

 

Agreed about Christina's stagers, they make the house look attractive and clean and even if you don't like the exact furniture and colors, it's easy to see the layout and flow of the space. Less is more in staging and the Vegas gal - who seems to design houses for singles who love the casino life and AirBnB owners who want Vegas kitsch - hasn't figured out that her staging makes the houses look tiny and cramped. At least if I bought the house in this episode, I'd only have to change out the one shower and the backsplash tile in the kitchen, everything else can stay (even if marble is not my favorite, waaay too slick for bathroom floors and easy to stain or markup as as a kitchen counter, although if you do a lot of baking, a marble surface is great). Most of the houses on the Vegas show, the flooring, counters, tile, sinks, brass crap and light fixtures would ALL have to go.

I've seen multiple episodes of T&C's show where the trash in the house - and particularly the graffiti - looked staged to me. But, yes, in general the houses are in poor shape, which is why they should never be surprised by cracked foundations, bad wiring, bad plumbing, dead HVAC, bad roofs, serious code violations, unpermitted additions, etc etc. I think it is part of the TV drama when they are, with a couple exceptions here and there that are things you could not catch by taking a very careful look at the property.

I think the difference in the amount of work needed is that the houses that T&C flip are purchased in the price range where you can do a new roof and  gut the kitchen and bathrooms and still make a tidy profit. A basic complete kitchen (cabinets, tile floor, countertops, appliances) is $15,000-$30,000 in both locations. If you buy a house for $370,000 and expect to sell it for $500,000 (a 35% increase), there is room to do all that work. If you buy a house for $175,000 and expect to flip it for $220,000 (a 25% increase) your costs are such that a new kitchen and a new roof are out of the question. The Vegas couple like to claim they "do the work" themselves, but if you look at mistakes on the shows, they are always blaming it on someone else while they were either out of town or on another site, no different than T&C. And there are always lots of people in the background in both shows, like the competent tiler workers that Tarek should let set all the tile instead of doing a sloppy job himself for the TV closeup.

The shower totally looked like a freight elevator. There was so much tile and they were small rectangles which he set side by side. Christina mentioned how she liked it instead of it being staggered. So I guess we can blame her. LOL!!!  If they had done most of it in white subway tile with an accent of the blue rectangles it might have been nicer looking and not as over powering. 

[kalibean]

On 6/16/2017 at 11:29 AM, iMonrey said:

They did exactly what I thought they would - no mention whatsoever of their relationship status. No "happy family" moments - we only saw the kids with Christina. It appears they aren't going to address the issue at all. I can't decide if that's the best option or not. It might be interesting if they just deal with it and say "Hey, we're divorced, but we're working together in business and raising our kids." 

Yeah, it was. I didn't like any of it. I mean, they acknowledged that the floor tile turned out terrible - one piece of it looked OK but when they started putting them all together they didn't match up. But I didn't like the accent tile in the showers either, nor the back splash in the kitchen.

Also, there was no way in hell they didn't know up front they needed a new roof. Masses of shingles just scattered around on the roof? I don't think so.

There has to be a happy medium. I agree Christina's "designs" are all the same: gray and white. But the houses always show really nice in the end, and you see the house, rather than the decor. So the consistently neutral choices have broad appeal and do not distract from the remodeling work they have done. Aubrey's designs are just too damn busy, she crams the house full of so much crap you don't even see the house. The decor is just too overwhelming.

I also think it's kind of funny Tarek and Christina always wind up with houses that are rotten and littered with trash and smell awful. Bristol and Aubrey just get plain, ordinary houses that are empty and need some cosmetic updating.

I was thinking a difference might be that Vegas got a glut of generic McMansions during the housing boom that need cosmetics/foreclosure repairs, and LA is full of giant shitholes that offer maximum profit because their market has never really been down. The amount of illegal apartments and such that they pull apart is fascinating. Sad too, thinking of that artist warehouse/illegal housing that caught fire last year and people died. 

I don't mind the grey and white - it's not exciting decoration, but the win to me is the overall before and after and profit made. They'd be foolish to make renovations too specialized, even if it would make for a more visually interesting show. I love the horror show houses they see!

[Hotel Diva]

I agree with everyone else, it was not ugly, but it was just the same tile over and over again. The kitchen was great, it's just that T & C turn old, disgusting homes into new fixer uppers.

[Guest]

I hated the shower tile, loved the floor tile in the bathroom though. That marble is pretty.

[iMonrey]

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The shower totally looked like a freight elevator. There was so much tile and they were small rectangles which he set side by side. Christina mentioned how she liked it instead of it being staggered. So I guess we can blame her. LOL!!!  If they had done most of it in white subway tile with an accent of the blue rectangles it might have been nicer looking and not as over powering. 

Plus it was so dark, and that made it seem even smaller. I don't even know how people can use those tiny showers that are square like closets. 

[dleighg]

How on earth does a house get left in that condition? (Turkey on the counter, I'm talking to you)

I mean, I get that a renter can skip out in the middle of the night, but wouldn't the owner at least check it out? That the water hadn't been left running, or the stove left on?

And I personally think that marble in a kitchen is stupid. It's high maintenance.

And yes, the tile work in the shower was hideous. And the ever-present niche didn't even have the rectangular tiles centered. He was lazy so he started with a whole tile then added a cut tile to the right. And since they aren't staggered, it's ridiculously obvious. Fire the guy!

Edited June 19, 2017 by dleighg

[Finagler]

I thought the shower tile made it look like a jail cell.  Too much color for such a small space.  And DARK.  yuck.

[sue450]

that contractor was never on the show...but he worked on tarek and christinas back yard

[iMonrey]

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How on earth does a house get left in that condition? (Turkey on the counter, I'm talking to you)

The sheer number of houses they find that are left like that is mind-boggling. Assuming the owner has any interest in selling whatsoever you'd think they'd at least clear out the trash. I guess it speaks to the housing market in the LA area that people assume they can sell for big bucks in any condition. And hey, so far they've been proven right. A disgusting mess has yet to prevent T&C from buying a property, so why should the seller waste any money paying someone to clean out the house first? Sad.

[saylubee]

A lot of those "messy" houses are estate properties.  My in-laws flip houses in Dallas and they had a very similar house to this one.  Owner was a hoarder.  One night he was taken to the hospital and he spent three months there before he died.  The only heir was some cousin that didn't live in state.  It took three years to get the property through probate because they were looking for closer heirs.  The cousin never set foot in the house and sold it to my in-laws without even traveling to Dallas.  The house wasn't touched in almost four years.  The before pics look almost worse then some of T&C's finds.

[Maharincess]

A lot of those messy houses are probably fake just like everything else on this show. I'm sure they have some PAs messing everything up to make the fix up look even better. 

Nothing about this show seems real. Especially Christina and Tarek. 

[topanga]

Glad to see Izzy, but he wasn't his usual jovial self. But who can blame him? Working with Tarek and Christina has got to be awkward. I noticed that the scene with Christina and the kids didn't include Tarek.   Was that purposeful? I hate that I over-analyze every interaction as it relates to their (pending?) divorce. 

Tarek is a bad actor. Of course he knew the original 4th bedroom wasn't permitted. His reactions to the 'surprises' used to be slightly more convincing. I suppose he has no more f*cks to give when it comes to pretending on this show. 

Oh, and Tarek needs to stop designing bathrooms. Every one he's done has been awful. The master bathroom did look nice in the end, but I did not like that round, glass tile. 

And what was the material used in the backyard under the pergola? It wasn't concrete, but something biodegradable? Is it usable? Christina mentioned you might not be able to keep a grill on it. 

[doodlebug]

6 hours ago, topanga said:

 

And what was the material used in the backyard under the pergola? It wasn't concrete, but something biodegradable? Is it usable? Christina mentioned you might not be able to keep a grill on it. 

It was deconstructed/decomposed granite, essentially small rocks not unlike gravel.  Ugly and not very practical.  Putting any sort of furniture or grill on it would be problematic in that it would be virtually impossible to  keep them level on the uneven surface.  No way to slide chairs in and out around a table, either.  Kids wouldn't be able to play on it, let alone use bikes or wagons, etc. 

The entire backyard was a disaster and an embarrassment. 

Edited June 23, 2017 by doodlebug

[iMonrey]

Actually, I'm sure someone would be glad enough to snatch it up just based on the sheer size of the lot. There was room for a pool back there, if you have the money. The couple that said they didn't have the budget to fix the back yard was full of crap. A bag of grass seed costs about $50.

For once I actually thought they did everything right. I still can't believe such a tiny house goes for $600K but there you go. And for once the house wasn't littered with trash.

Notice when T&C pull up to the house for the Open House they arrive in separate cars. I do think at some point they need to acknowledge that they are separated. It strikes me a somewhat misleading not to. If you were just tuning in for the first time, you would obviously assume they are married because of the children. 

[mojito]

I liked when Tarek said to Christina, after he made  suggestions for the bathroom tile that she didn't approve of, "You need to open up your design mind, some new things."

I'm guessing that the conversation that followed was edited out. 

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Glad to see Izzy, but he wasn't his usual jovial self. But who can blame him? Working with Tarek and Christina has got to be awkward. I noticed that the scene with Christina and the kids didn't include Tarek.   Was that purposeful?

Never noticed Izzy being jovial. His relationship with the El Moussas just seemed professional to me.  I would imagine that all he cares about is  getting work and getting paid and more people on this forum care about the T&C breakup than he does.

A scene with Christina and the kids that included Tarek would've been silly and forced, and since they've been featuring their kids on the show all along, there was no reason not to now.

[LazyToaster]

When they got out of the separate cars they asked each other something like "how are you"?  It was a not-in-your-face way to announce they don't live together I think.  Anyway, they were pretty cordial considering. 

[vesperholly]

On 6/15/2017 at 11:38 PM, Zoe said:

Is it just me or was the tile work really bad in this episode?

I rarely see them using spacers and the tiles often look super close together. Some of Tarek's "I can tile too!" projects look awful.

[iMonrey]

I assume that Tarek never actually does any of the tile work (or anything else). He steps into the shot for the show to film the scene then steps away when the cameras are off and professionals do the actual work.

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Glad to see Izzy, but he wasn't his usual jovial self. But who can blame him? Working with Tarek and Christina has got to be awkward. 

T&C pull up to the house, Tarek says to Izzie "Did you miss us?" Loooooooooooooong pause. Izzy: "Uh, always." LOL.

[topanga]

On 6/23/2017 at 4:15 PM, mojito said:

Never noticed Izzy being jovial. His relationship with the El Moussas just seemed professional to me.  I would imagine that all he cares about is  getting work and getting paid and more people on this forum care about the T&C breakup than he does.

Izzy isn't bubbly, but he has a subtle, dry sense of humor that cracks me up. Like if Tarek says they can remodel a kitchen for $8000, Izzy might say, "Uh. Not if you want people to use it."

 

Is anyone going to watch Flip or Flop Atlanta? I think I'll check it out just for the new location & new houses. 

[dleighg]

On 6/23/2017 at 11:54 AM, iMonrey said:

The couple that said they didn't have the budget to fix the back yard was full of crap. A bag of grass seed costs about $50.

 

That made NO sense. They'd put the irrigation in right? So there is nothing left to do other than sprinkle some seed!

[iMonrey]

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Is anyone going to watch Flip or Flop Atlanta? I think I'll check it out just for the new location & new houses. 

I'll certainly check it out. Here's a link to the hosts. They look like they just might be a refreshing change of pace from T&C and Bristol & Aubrey (older, not blonde, not West Coast). We'll see. 

[saylubee]

The Corsini's had a show called Flipping the South.  I couldn't watch it because Anita was so bad on camera.  It'll be interesting to see if she's had any classes between now and then.