Season 6 Discussion

[betsyboo]

Danny and Baez being cute together, and discussing Baez's love life was so great! Danny turning on his big brother vibe there was really endearing. And that was a nice character moment for Maria.

 

Agreed. I like that there was no judgment from him re: previous relationship while the guy was married. He was just worried about her. But when she said she wanted to try, he was on board. He was ready to support her no matter what.

 

The enjoyment from this moment was tarnished before it even happened by Danny's immediate dick-ish dismissal of Detective Boyfriend at the hospital. "yeah, we're good. see ya."  Altho to be somewhat fair to Danny, I think any cop would have reacted same.

 

 

Jamie & the tourist is more of what I would like to see for him. One off fun here & there with the Miss Out of Town of the week. Longterm love interests for leading men are such a pickle for shows. The actress has to click just right like Amy's Linda did, who also had the been there from the beginning thing going for her. 

 

I have been unable to warm up to Linda since Day 1. I fully admit this is leftover hatred from her character on Third Watch more than a decade ago. So I have never believed them together. Yes, I do know I'm a crazy person. (This also works in reverse - I loved Paul Adelstein in Prison Break, so no matter how ridic his characters on Private Practice and Scandal were/are, I will always give him the benefit of the doubt. #shame)

I was shocked by Jamie's "building a wall" line. Maybe they left that scene out of Tom's copy of the script?

I laughed right out loud!

Edited April 12, 2016 by betsyboo

[ComeWhatMay]

I liked this one & the final showdown with DW's Danny & Thomas was intense.

Erin was softer, which was nice, & I really liked her vibe with the Irish Commissioner -- too bad he's headed back across the pond -- & her continued collegial relationship with Bobby. The ceremony at the end was nice.

The Reagan Family is a tough nut to crack. Nicky's awareness of it whereas Jamie thought nothing of it with regard to another & in this case Nicky, is not surprising. Nicky had a front row seat to her dad's troubles with her grandpas & has seen others introduced to that dinner table, like Jamie's ex-fiancée, take their leave too over the years. Tough room on which perspective seems to be lost when you are not the member in the hot seat. I was also glad to hear Jamie articulate the special status Nicky has enjoyed that makes this season's more mature iteration of Nicky so refreshing.

Was not a fan of Danny leaving Erin, armed or not, & traumatized Nicky & taking after Thomas on his own without back-up. Story-wise, the way he is should really catch up with him at some point.

I liked Nicky's young cop boyfriend & his respect for "patient" Jamie. The writers having Nicky date a young cop makes sense. Dating your value system is smarter than looking to fix people from the other side like defense attorneys & cat burglars. Nicky would have learned that at home too.

[CooperTV]

When a key eyewitness in a murder trial flees out of fear of retaliation, Erin and Anthony spearhead their own two-person manhunt to find him and convince him to testify. Also, Garrett tries to convince Frank to attend the Police Union party, and Danny and Baez take a closer look at a suspicious convenience store robbery.

 

[wknt3]

This episode was really Jekyll and Hyde. I loved just about every scene without Danny and hated just about every scene with him. About the only good thing I can say about the serial killer plot is that I liked the actor playing the profiler and it made me appreciate the lack of Danny centric episodes this season.

[Brian Cronin]

There was a lot to like about tonight's episode, but goodness me, Danny was a special kind of stupid tonight. "Let me taunt him into going after my family, but then somehow not put protective details on my family because....ummm...because....ummmm....I guess I'm just really stupid?"

[mtlchick]

Considering that Marisa Ramirez is due any day now and this was filmed a month ago, I do wonder how much of the last 2 episodes we're going to see of her.  

 

Wilder's loooong talk of "if you kill me when I'm not holding a gun, it's not self defense" was an eye rolling moment which was still LESS dumb than "You make comments about my family, I'll come after yours."  Dude, you BLEW UP YOUR OWN MOTHER.  And there is video of you kidnapping someone and stuffing them in a back of a car.  Not the time to be boastful.

[mojito]

 

Was not a fan of Danny leaving Erin, armed or not, & traumatized Nicky & taking after Thomas on his own without back-up. Story-wise, the way he is should really catch up with him at some point.

Much too realistic for this show, but I when Nikki was kidnapped, I thought that it would be the ultimate comeuppance for the arrogant and stupid Danny if he got his niece killed. 

[shdigu01]

I am getting so tired of the overbearing, I am always right, bad tempered dick head Danny

[wonderwoman]

"I am getting so tired of the overbearing, I am always right, bad tempered dick head Danny"

And never, ever any meaningful consequences. As mojito suggested above, his actions resulting in Nicki's death would have been the perfect counterpoint to his arrogance. But, never going to happen... Not on this show.

[Artsda]

I was sad about the lack of Baez, especially when she and Danny did this case together. I guess they wanted to show Danny worse than normal, so they needed a partner that would piss him off. 

 

It was clear from day one this guy would go after Nikki. Him not killing her was too out of his MO though. I guess Danny is going to be have some issues with the killer in his head and all. 

 

I like the addition of Nikki's boyfriend.

[wknt3]

I was sad about the lack of Baez, especially when she and Danny did this case together. I guess they wanted to show Danny worse than normal, so they needed a partner that would piss him off.

 

Baez not being there was almost certainly more about Marisa Ramirez being quite pregnant. Steve Schirripa, Jamie, the rest of the NYPD, etc. not being around was about plot contrivances. And I don't think this was intentionally about Danny being worse than normal. That was a combination of bad writing and us no longer being used to Danny focused action heavy episodes.

[roomtorome]

Ugh - Danny is a brutish cretin - as usual; I will never understand why this show chose to make this character such a dick - He's rude to everyone right from the first second - I realized when I was watching that I would actually kinda like this show if he was not in it - as it is, I fast forward through his awful scenes if I can still follow the story without his scenes.  

 

I agree with above poster - I liked everything without him in it.  

 

I think this stunt of his should get him suspended or booted altogether from the force - it is up there with the most disturbing irresponsible thing the character has ever done on this show.  And, if it was the main character's niece - the killer would have murdered her, not left her alive.

Edited April 16, 2016 by roomtorome

[CooperTV]

This episode needed more the Reagan family group hugs. Danny hugging Linda and then kind of hugging Nikki counts?

 

I saw the irony in the fact that all Reagans were so concerned about Nikki dating a cop and going overprotective about that, and then Nikki ended up being kidnapped by Porno Star Serial Killer . The rookie cop boyfriend is clearly a rookie, BTW, because he was absolutely clueless to the fact Nikki's Grandpa is the Police Comiisioner (and her Grand Grandpa is a former Police Commissioner, and her uncle is a badass detective, and her mom is a ADA...). I guess, Jamie was the safest choice out of all Nikki's family members to talk about on a date. Glad that poor boy figured out what kind of family he decided to date into, at last.

 

Eddie, you're not fooling anyone with your "Do you think there's such thing as soulmates?" line to Jamie. We all know you want to be his "soulmate". "Soulmate" is, of course, an euphemism here, isn't it? I liked how Jamie was all "Wha...?" about that. Besides the pointless romantic banter Eddie and Jamie were great at dealing with the crazy perp with a machete.

 

The Erin part with the Irish Chief of Police was nice but nothing remarkable comparing to her storyline with Danny and Nikki.

 

The Danny part of the episode was a cliche but the cinematography and the direction for this was superb. I noticed that in the previous episode that dealt with Porno Star Serial Killer. Close-ups that create tension and claustrophobic feeling, wide shots on the ground, amazing finale scene in the fields. Just great. I'd wish they were doing their regular episodes like that. Donnie Wahlberg and Michael Beach played well off each other, even though both Beach and Wahlberg were doing their best "very intense and really angry" impressions.

[spunky]

I'm hoping for an episode where someone tells Danny to shut up and sit down, preferably Jamie. The man is entirely disrespectful to everyone around him. I wish the FBI agent informed Frank, that no one wants to work with his, obnoxious, loud mouth, arrogant, idiotic, petulant, tantrum throwing son.

[Brian Cronin]

The episode definitely was filmed really well. Danny was just beyond dumb. Although I guess I have to give the show credit for not doing this episode during Sweeps Month. 

 

Also, shouldn't Danny be a LITTLE hung up based on his shooting in this episode? Not, like, kicked off the force or anything like that, but at least on desk duty for a little while. Hmmm...then again, I don't recall seeing him in the clip for next episode, so maybe he WILL be hung up. So my bad, Blue Bloods writers, I shouldn't prejudge you ,you might actually have consequences to Danny's actions (you probably won't, but you MIGHT!). 

[CaptainCranky]

I just started watching this show this year and have been watching this seasons new episodes plus catching up on reruns. Several observations about this show.

1. Casting on this show is absurd. Not one family member looks like they are even remotely related. I guess if most fans of the show buy into this premise fine but for me it detracts from the reality of the show.

2. For an established actor, Tom Selleck can only grimace and frown. What a waste of talent. I do like the person who is his PCI.

3. The way the PC is portrayed you would think he is God. Powerful yes but omnipotent, I don't think so.

4. The youngest son is a wuss. I do like his cute blond partner.

5. The ADA daughter needs to get laid.

6.Last but not least I agree with most of the comments on Danny. The character is out of control.

[mtlchick]

 

The episode definitely was filmed really well. Danny was just beyond dumb. Although I guess I have to give the show credit for not doing this episode during Sweeps Month.

 

 

Oddly enough, this was meant to be the season finale. https://twitter.com/DonnieWahlberg/status/708017954961629185 Which given the final scene of the entire family at the pier and Frank waxing poetic about family and cops, etc ties into their MO of how they normally end a season.  But there were two other episodes filmed after this one and I guess CBS said "screw it we're going to keep things in order?"

[ComeWhatMay]

Oddly enough, this was meant to be the season finale. https://twitter.com/DonnieWahlberg/status/708017954961629185 Which given the final scene of the entire family at the pier and Frank waxing poetic about family and cops, etc ties into their MO of how they normally end a season.  But there were two other episodes filmed after this one and I guess CBS said "screw it we're going to keep things in order?"

Makes me wonder what the actual finale will be like. Stop dead like a filler episode or some cliffhanger that breaks the pattern? This episode fit the mold of finales for sure & it's funny that they would not just leave it where it was unless there was some reason.

[Brian Cronin]

Oddly enough, this was meant to be the season finale. https://twitter.com/DonnieWahlberg/status/708017954961629185 Which given the final scene of the entire family at the pier and Frank waxing poetic about family and cops, etc ties into their MO of how they normally end a season.  But there were two other episodes filmed after this one and I guess CBS said "screw it we're going to keep things in order?"

Fascinating. Thanks for the head's up!

 

Yeah, that's really kind of weird now, knowing that. Because now it seems even LESS likely that they'll address any of the issues brought up in this episode (Nikki's kidnapping, Nikki's new boyfriend, Danny possibly being in trouble for shooting the killer, etc.) 

[spunky]

This episode needed more the Reagan family group hugs. Danny hugging Linda and then kind of hugging Nikki counts?

 

I saw the irony in the fact that all Reagans were so concerned about Nikki dating a cop and going overprotective about that, and then Nikki ended up being kidnapped by Porno Star Serial Killer . The rookie cop boyfriend is clearly a rookie, BTW, because he was absolutely clueless to the fact Nikki's Grandpa is the Police Comiisioner (and her Grand Grandpa is a former Police Commissioner, and her uncle is a badass detective, and her mom is a ADA...). I guess, Jamie was the safest choice out of all Nikki's family members to talk about on a date. Glad that poor boy figured out what kind of family he decided to date into, at last.

 

Eddie, you're not fooling anyone with your "Do you think there's such thing as soulmates?" line to Jamie. We all know you want to be his "soulmate". "Soulmate" is, of course, an euphemism here, isn't it? I liked how Jamie was all "Wha...?" about that. Besides the pointless romantic banter Eddie and Jamie were great at dealing with the crazy perp with a machete.

 

The Erin part with the Irish Chief of Police was nice but nothing remarkable comparing to her storyline with Danny and Nikki.

 

The Danny part of the episode was a cliche but the cinematography and the direction for this was superb. I noticed that in the previous episode that dealt with Porno Star Serial Killer. Close-ups that create tension and claustrophobic feeling, wide shots on the ground, amazing finale scene in the fields. Just great. I'd wish they were doing their regular episodes like that. Donnie Wahlberg and Michael Beach played well off each other, even though both Beach and Wahlberg were doing their best "very intense and really angry" impressions.

This episode needed more the Reagan family group hugs. Danny hugging Linda and then kind of hugging Nikki counts?

 

I saw the irony in the fact that all Reagans were so concerned about Nikki dating a cop and going overprotective about that, and then Nikki ended up being kidnapped by Porno Star Serial Killer . The rookie cop boyfriend is clearly a rookie, BTW, because he was absolutely clueless to the fact Nikki's Grandpa is the Police Comiisioner (and her Grand Grandpa is a former Police Commissioner, and her uncle is a badass detective, and her mom is a ADA...). I guess, Jamie was the safest choice out of all Nikki's family members to talk about on a date. Glad that poor boy figured out what kind of family he decided to date into, at last.

 

Eddie, you're not fooling anyone with your "Do you think there's such thing as soulmates?" line to Jamie. We all know you want to be his "soulmate". "Soulmate" is, of course, an euphemism here, isn't it? I liked how Jamie was all "Wha...?" about that. Besides the pointless romantic banter Eddie and Jamie were great at dealing with the crazy perp with a machete.

 

The Erin part with the Irish Chief of Police was nice but nothing remarkable comparing to her storyline with Danny and Nikki.

 

The Danny part of the episode was a cliche but the cinematography and the direction for this was superb. I noticed that in the previous episode that dealt with Porno Star Serial Killer. Close-ups that create tension and claustrophobic feeling, wide shots on the ground, amazing finale scene in the fields. Just great. I'd wish they were doing their regular episodes like that. Donnie Wahlberg and Michael Beach played well off each other, even though both Beach and Wahlberg were doing their best "very intense and really angry" impressions.

Can Eddie please just disappear, and take Danny with her.

[betsyboo]

There was a lot to like about tonight's episode, but goodness me, Danny was a special kind of stupid tonight. "Let me taunt him into going after my family, but then somehow not put protective details on my family because....ummm...because....ummmm....I guess I'm just really stupid?"

If I was Erin, I don't know that I could ever forgive him for not foreseeing this outcome.

 

I love Anthony: "My father *was* a ganster!"

 

Hey Erin - maybe next time you have to deliver debilitating, life-altering, shocking news - ease into it a bit, eh? "I looked into your father's case. He's alive. The end."

I saw the irony in the fact that all Reagans were so concerned about Nikki dating a cop and going overprotective about that, and then Nikki ended up being kidnapped by Porno Star Serial Killer . The rookie cop boyfriend is clearly a rookie, BTW, because he was absolutely clueless to the fact Nikki's Grandpa is the Police Comiisioner (and her Grand Grandpa is a former Police Commissioner, and her uncle is a badass detective, and her mom is a ADA...). I guess, Jamie was the safest choice out of all Nikki's family members to talk about on a date. Glad that poor boy figured out what kind of family he decided to date into, at last.

 

. Besides the pointless romantic banter Eddie and Jamie were great at dealing with the crazy perp with a machete.

I thought for sure the rookie was going to be pissed Jamie waltzed in and took over his scene and his collar. If the kid had asked - fine. And he may have not had the matter fully in hand - but doesn't "cop courtesy" dictate that Jamie at least give the guy a "can I try?" look??  Or did the callout on the radio ask for a more senior patrolman to respond? I didn't hear the exchange other than them responding they were en route.

[Brian Cronin]

I think the look on the kid's face was enough for Jamie. He looked petrified. So I think Jamie was confident that he would be okay with a more senior officer taking over.

[betsyboo]

I think the look on the kid's face was enough for Jamie. He looked petrified. So I think Jamie was confident that he would be okay with a more senior officer taking over.

valid - the double hand pistol grip with your arms at your shoulders *does* scream "IMMABOUT TO LOSE IT HERE"

[torqy]

All I can add to everything above is, I'm so glad they didn't "William Lewis" the story line with Porn Star Serial Killer (kudos to CooperTV; great nickname!)

[spunky]

All I can add to everything above is, I'm so glad they didn't "William Lewis" the story line with Porn Star Serial Killer (kudos to CooperTV; great nickname!)

Me too that "William Lewis" storyline was the most disgusting thing ever written. I just wished he went after Danny and left Nikki out of it.

[CooperTV]

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In the Season 6 finale, public outrage erupts when a cop isn't indicted for shooting a teenager, and the fallout affects Frank, the mayor and Erin's office. Later, an officer gets shot in a possible case of retaliation, so Danny searches for the shooter.

 

[DrScottie]

Wow, Erin, I don't care if that confession means her witness didn't have to testify in open court, but he's likely still a dead man when his gang sees their boss went to jail for that murder. Erin admitted in court that Willis testified to a grand jury saying he saw his cousin's execution and certainly some of the crew was there for that or would find out what happened. Is she that naive to believe that her little scheme to get Tariq to incriminate himself in jail would give Willis a free pass because he didn't actually point to him in court? There's retaliation that's coming for him and she should have told him that he needs to relocate anyway so at least put Tariq behind bars before doing so. 

[EtheltoTillie]

I agree. Terrible plot line. 

Robbery plot: it was obvious the victim was the robber from the beginning. 

Party plot: just silly. They thought they were being clever by having the theme parallel Erin's plot.

No Jamie plot. :(  

[CaptainCranky]

I DVR'ed the episode and haven't watched it yet but I have a question. Is Danny the only detective on a 34,000 man police force that can solve crimes ?????

[CooperTV]

1 hour ago, CaptainCranky said:

I DVR'ed the episode and haven't watched it yet but I have a question. Is Danny the only detective on a 34,000 man police force that can solve crimes ?????

But he's the only detective we would expect to start soap-boxing out of the blue about racial profiling this episode! And yet he did!

I liked his comedic moment with Baez with "I like to think we're smart cops" bit, though.

[wetmoregal]

I love to read the comments on all of my favorite tv shows, but rarely do I comment.  After watching last night's episode, I just had to comment.  Actually said "Wow" out loud when Danny was chasing the bank robbery suspect out of the tap room/brewery and knocked an unsuspecting citizen right off the stool and onto the pavement as the poor guy was minding his own business drinking a beer.  I thought that would be a lawsuit for sure.   What a jerk!

Also, couldn't stand Erin this episode.  Win, win, win.  That's all she cares about.  I wanted to smack her.  Of course it was her plan all along to get the criminal to confess.  Terrible plan and so many things could have gone wrong.

Did like Frank's plan to make Sid look good to the rank and file.

[Fostersmom]

6 hours ago, CaptainCranky said:

I DVR'ed the episode and haven't watched it yet but I have a question. Is Danny the only detective on a 34,000 man police force that can solve crimes ?????

 

aHe's the only one who takes random citizens out in a random run by on the regular and no one manages to ever catch that on video or file a police brutality complaint.

 

1 minute ago, wetmoregal said:

I love to read the comments on all of my favorite tv shows, but rarely do I comment.  After watching last night's episode, I just had to comment.  Actually said "Wow" out loud when Danny was chasing the bank robbery suspect out of the tap room/brewery and knocked an unsuspecting citizen right off the stool and onto the pavement as the poor guy was minding his own business drinking a beer.  I thought that would be a lawsuit for sure.   What a jerk!

Also, couldn't stand Erin this episode.  Win, win, win.  That's all she cares about.  I wanted to smack her.  Of course it was her plan all along to get the criminal to confess.  Terrible plan and so many things could have gone wrong.

Did like Frank's plan to make Sid look good to the rank and file.

I just came to comment on him taking the poor guy at the coffee shop completely out. How is it none of the random people he plows over never complain or get hurt. In real life, beer guy would have ended up with his head bouncing off the pavement, a broken arm, or worse. 

[CaptainCranky]

My God what a horseshit episode. Erin was a stone cold bitch who got lucky, Danny is a dirtbag who'll do anything to win and Frank is a know it all asshole.

Did I miss anyone.

Edited May 1, 2016 by CaptainCranky

[CaptainCranky]

Does it look like the actress that plays Baez is pregnant.

[MissLucas]

Marisa Ramirez is pregnant. I wonder if Danny will get another partner during her baby-break.

I always hate 'let's force someone to testify' stories - this one was no exception. In true Reagan style Erin was allowed to pontificate and be self-righteous without having to face any consequences. The poor kid's life is ruined but at least she got her conviction.

[mtlchick]

This was just bad.  And that was one long con for Erin to pull off in the HOPES that it would work.  

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Marisa Ramirez is pregnant. I wonder if Danny will get another partner during her baby-break.

She's due to give birth sometime this month. http://celebritybabies.people.com/2016/04/27/marisa-ramirez-pregnant-expecting-girl-baby-shower/?xid=socialflow_twitter_peoplemag  Blue Bloods normally goes back to work 2nd week of July so it's possible she may sit out the premiere or two.  

[Crs97]

 The "force him to testify" storyline was just clunky, but I had no sympathy for the mother who  acted like it was Erin's and Anthony's fault that her son witnessed the murder.  You don't get to complain about the DA not getting the bad guy when you withhold from them the only piece of evidence they have.  

Listening to Frank tell Gormley to get over himself because he didn't want to go to a party for the exact same reason Frank didn't want to go to the party? Stupid.

However, the biggest break from reality in the whole show was Danny having any sort of self-awareness that he might have been biased in solving his case.

[wonderwoman]

"In true Reagan style Erin was allowed to pontificate and be self-righteous without having to face any consequences"

Yup -- that's the Reagan legacy, which is why I've always hate-watched BB

[kwnyc]

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I just came to comment on him taking the poor guy at the coffee shop completely out. How is it none of the random people he plows over never complain or get hurt.

Maybe that's why Jamie wasn't in the episode much: he took that hotshot rookie to task for knocking down the little girl. (And Danny had one of his rare moments of good sense, and admitted that's why he asked Jamie to mentor the kid).

[betsyboo]

POOR ANTHONY. He so lurves Erin. My heart broke for him when he agreed to stay and he grasped her hand. Poor guy. We need to find him someone better to pine for!!!!

Pontificate is such the perfect verb in this case.

[mtlchick]

For those interested, Will Estes FINALLY joined Twitter when he swore for years he wouldn't.  (@willestes101.)

This was...ok.  I knew that the token DA that we've never seen before would be the one that leaked the tape.  But once again, Staten Island?  The cop couldn't go to the Bronx or any other borough? 

At least the final scene had the 5 core cast members where 4 of them were drinking so that "sort of" fits of their MO for their season finale that I wrote about 2 weeks ago.  However the one that aired on April 22nd did fit the tone more as a season finale especially when that was originally marked for it. Overall the season wasn't bad because hey!  Will got to do more stuff!  But there were several really bad episodes.

 

Finally...my word, the sons have grown A LOT this season.  I figure both will be towering over Danny by this time next year. 

[Artsda]

It was a good episode. 

The mayor was really stupid making his statement like that, attacking his own police force. He was riling the hate up.

The ADA that leaked the tape is going to be charged, fired and disbarred after coming from nothing in that neighborhood she throws it all away like that and has still isn't sorry? 

You would think that Nikki after being abducted by a serial killer would be a little less angry on force by the PD. She is showing no signs of trauma or PTSD from that, she just bounced back like nothing.

[wknt3]

Boy this was a clunker. I can't believe they switiched this with the serial killer ep as the season finale (as previous posts here have indicated). At least that was half a good episode and ended on an inspiring note. This was just a steaming turd like most attempts BB makes at addressing social issues. The case did a great job with what they had, and the technical aspects were excellent as always, but it just couldn't be polished.

I mean seriously they just came right out and said that if you question the use of force by police you get cops killed. And that politicians that attempt to address the issue are putting politics over people. Meanwhile St. Frank can let loose with a Trumpian blast of outrage and he's not wrong at all. Gregory Jbara did do a great job with the facial expressions of conveying what anyone with a remote grasp of reality would recognize, but we all know Garrett is a liberal sellout anyways. And we have to beware of body cameras because no matter what they show the media will bash cops and "those people" are such savages they will seek violent revenge.

I felt sorry for the poor actress playing the jr. ADA had to spend the whole episode dragging around the giant sign around her neck "I am the leak". I was so hoping that maybe, just maybe it was a red herring and it would be a cop trying to prove the officer's innocence or some other twist, but no they really did mean to drop an anvil on our heads. And I was so rooting for Erin to just start punching people when they were giving her crap for not dispensing summary judgement based on the whims of her family. You know it's bad when I'm actually rooting for Nikki. Erin should just come out and tell Frank that she is arrogant asshole who thinks she knows everything because she is half Reagan afterall. Ugh.

Edited May 7, 2016 by wknt3

[Lee4U]

It mirrored a tiny bit an incident here in NYC when Mayor deBlasio went off a bit on the police - of course, nothing so dramatic occurred as in this but it did create quite a big brouhaha that forced him to utter a mea culpa.  

I hate that Frank is supposedly this all knowing sage of morality that he could convinced the mayor to not step down and also to wind up making such an apology - I so want this show to knock him down a few pegs - not incinerate his character or anything but make him behave like an actual human  - our PC here has made his share of gaffes, he's not perfect (not by a long shot) but this placing Frank on such a pedestal is just stupid and insulting to the intelligence of viewers - (in my opinion, anyway) - 

[wonderwoman]

2 hours ago, Lee4U said:

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I so want this show to knock him down a few pegs - not incinerate his character or anything but make him behave like an actual human  - our PC here has made his share of gaffes, he's not perfect (not by a long shot) but this placing Frank on such a pedestal is just stupid and insulting to the intelligence of viewers - (in my opinion, anyway) - 

And mine, as well. And, as for Danny....

[Crs97]

I saw an interview with Wahlberg, and he said he really likes how Danny has reflected and grown this season; I am assuming there must be a lot of scenes on the cutting room floor.  He also enjoys when they can take an issue and show all sides of it.  I thought, "You mean Frank's side and the wrong side?"  Because I have never seen a show less nuanced than this one in dealing with complex stories.

[wknt3]

6 hours ago, Lee4U said:

I hate that Frank is supposedly this all knowing sage of morality that he could convinced the mayor to not step down and also to wind up making such an apology - I so want this show to knock him down a few pegs - not incinerate his character or anything but make him behave like an actual human  - our PC here has made his share of gaffes, he's not perfect (not by a long shot) but this placing Frank on such a pedestal is just stupid and insulting to the intelligence of viewers - (in my opinion, anyway) - 

Sometimes I wonder about what goes on behind the scenes at this show. It occasionally seems like the first draft of the script shows a noble, but flawed hero and then Tom Selleck takes out his red pen and starts crossing out where it's made explicit. I mean there are plenty of star turns, Mary Sues, and wish fulfillment fantasies of various sorts out there, but it's just basic storytelling competence to give your protagonist some weaknesses. And I can't believe a successful network series can't find writers with a grasp of Screenwriting 101.

 

41 minutes ago, Crs97 said:

I saw an interview with Wahlberg, and he said he really likes how Danny has reflected and grown this season; I am assuming there must be a lot of scenes on the cutting room floor.  He also enjoys when they can take an issue and show all sides of it.  I thought, "You mean Frank's side and the wrong side?"  Because I have never seen a show less nuanced than this one in dealing with complex stories.

What are you talking about? There was all sorts of nuance here. There was that debate over whether cops should outright lie even when it's not necessary. And it turned out it wasn't the charismatic black politician that leaked the video, but the vaguely ethnic young lawyer who suggested that they might present all the facts to the grand jury instead of rigging the system for a no bill. And of course that was presented as compromise with just letting the police do what they want. They give the other side of the debate a voice all the time, usually the out DCPI suggesting that we might acknowledge reality and then do what the police want, or the obnoxious teenage girl, or the cynical politician/minority activist.

[Bazinga]

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It mirrored a tiny bit an incident here in NYC when Mayor deBlasio went off a bit on the police - of course, nothing so dramatic occurred as in this but it did create quite a big brouhaha that forced him to utter a mea culpa.

Officers Liu and Ramos were killed.  NYC Mayor de Blasio's anti police rhetoric following the Eric Garner death was cited by some as a cause of the shooting.  Think that is the real-life incident that inspired the situation in this episode.  At least this is what I thought of.

Here are the details: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_killings_of_NYPD_officers

Edited May 7, 2016 by Bazinga

[Texasmom1970]

I had no clue this was the season finale until I came here. That bring said it was pretty much business as usual. I don't necessarily need a huge season finale cliffhanger but this to me was just kind of meh.

[mtlchick]

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I saw an interview with Wahlberg, and he said he really likes how Danny has reflected and grown this season; I am assuming there must be a lot of scenes on the cutting room floor.

I had to laugh at that because ever since he moved to Chicago last summer, he's appearing in the show a lot LESS.  Where exactly was there room for growth if he's not on as much?  The best we got was the repercussions of when Linda got shot and even with that it was pretty minimal.  I think the last time we actually saw growth from him in any way was when he finally went to counseling and started to deal with his PTSD issues.  And then...gone. 

 

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You would think that Nikki after being abducted by a serial killer would be a little less angry on force by the PD. She is showing no signs of trauma or PTSD from that, she just bounced back like nothing.

All the more reason I would like to know why this episode was set for the finale instead of the one you referred to which was originally marked as such.