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  1. In the show? Rafael is the one who Jane said directly, for the first time ever, that she sees herself as a writer. It's right there, in the pilot: This, right there, is why Raf is the one who supports and encourages her to be a writer, not supports her writing (which is a different thing). That's why. It is in the text. I've no idea why try to dispute the fact that it was constructed that way in the show that Rafael is the biggest Jane's supporter for being a writer.
  2. Rafael, a handsome and charming man, a caring father, a friend to women (figuratively and literally), who supports women's shelters, who knows what he wants in life, with stable job and career perspectives, wouldn't ever be a popular viable option to anyone on any dating app. Now I've heard everything. I don't think people with psychological problems, such as depression and abandonment issues, don't deserve to seek and find happiness and family. But your post seems to imply that, albeit unintentionally (for the sake of a fictional shipping rival argument).
  3. To be fair, Michael and Jane were together for two years, and she dumped him for his bad behavior and immediately got together with that guy she kissed once five years ago. And after that they were on and off, got married, then Michael was in hospital, then they had a couple months all to themselves (while they were fighting and Jane obviously was hang up on Rafael dating other women, while repressing that like crazy), and then Michael died. I think fans were always way over-invested in Jane/Michael when the show itself never was, that's why where all of those 1) "Rafael is just hot muscular guy, also he's boring" (this is super subjective, and building any theories of one pairing being better than the other on that alone will lead nowhere) 2) "Jane and Rafael are not built enough/badly". (That's called confirmation bias, and by default is subjective). Jafael has the strongest support in-the show and in the BHS interviews alike. It was called the definite endgame in season 3 scripts. 3) "But Jane and Rafael always fight!" (compared to Michael being Jane's doormat and lying to her about his feelings) opinions I keep on seeing. All of that reminds me a lot of any fandom ship war, when fans are trying to spin a narrative by blatantly erasing events and connections between couple they don't like. It works better in movies/tv shows where there's a up-in-the-air love triangle, though (like Damon vs Stefan, Pacey vs Dawson, Jack vs Sawyer). When any engdame is obvious from the start (like Ron/Hermione, Jane/Rafael, Jane/Rochester, Elizabeth/Darcy, etc), then it gets complicated for opposing shippers. I also don't think I want to recap all five seasons of the show to prove the endgame ship's legitimacy that was obvious from the first episode. I'd rather watch it for my enjoyment. Mostly because I don't have to prove anything, Jane (female lead) and Rafael (male lead) are married and endgame.
  4. They never made a mistake, they wanted Michael dead for a telenovela trope (back from the dead/has amnesia combo, like in The Passions of Santos plot, that is played out on screen on this very show). I think by killing him off the EP did Jane as a character a huge favor, as otherwise Jane would be forced (by the writers, of course) to cheat on her "perfect" man she thought was her "soulmate". The fact that Michael was shot on their wedding day, the fact that Jane was more invested in Rafael's love life in general and in particular while being married to Michael, the fact that Michael/Jane first sex was terrible (even though they did bunch of stuff before that), the fact that Michael and Jane had petty financial squabbles all the way to his "death", the fact that Michael lied to Jane about his job, the fact he was jealous of Rafael while happily married to Jane and being his first sexual partner... All of that was on screen for a long, long time. Everyone just refused to see what;s in front of them, and were pretending Michael was there to stay and was there to be a viable option for Jane and also thought this relationship was in any way or form "perfect". It wasn't. The writers knew that, Jane in the end knew that. Jafael was inevitable and was never going to go away.
  5. His mother left him when he was a child, his father was emotionally abusive, his sister is addict that put him through hell (there's actually an episode in season 1 where Raf is so done with Luisa's behavior the only way the person who'd lived with an addict whole their lives would be), he has abandonment issues which colored his life for many many years, because he was convinced no one would love him the way he is (so he has to be successful, to have money to provide to his family, to prove himself in some way). Hell, even his work-out routine is explained by his post-cancer attempt to control his own body that had failed him already. He went to prison to became a better father for his kids, even if it cost him psychologically (Zen!Raf was damaged). His struggles to find his own path, to find a family, to be a better version of himself is what's half the show is about. I mean, he's a male lead of the show, a complex, flawed, beautiful character that had beautiful journey.
  6. Not that it isn't offtopic in this thread but. That's some high kevel misinformation. Lysenko studied selection and the methods of agriculture that were successful for thirty years straight. Vavilov (who wasn't a Jew, by the way, unlike other people who actually made the Revolution happen and created USSR) did the same (selection and other things) but he wasn't getting any immediate results with his work at the time. Which was a fact, as any important results genetic science got for agriculture were made way after WWII.
  7. At this point of my binge-watching I'm actually struggling to continue. Karl Urban is super hot, and his accent is even more so... But when the show only has exactly one genuinely good person so far, of the entire cast of psychos, sociopaths, creeps, murderers and hypocrites (not all of them the Seven!), it's hard to care about anything. I mean, I hate Hughie most of them all. The themes and the writing are not that good (actually, this episode everything was just cliche and bad), and I want the Seven and the Boys just to kill each other, so people could live in peace without those horrible monsters.
  8. That is the matter of opinion, clearly. Many professional critics consider season 5 was no lesser than other seasons and actually praise the writing the same way they did before. The thing is about Jane the Virgin is that it never was a bait and switch kind of show, or a show where endgame was up in air for a time and then some executive producer decided to make one couple happen over the other (like Vampire Diaries, Dawson's Creek and many others). We knew Jane and Rafael were the main characters, we knew they were going to have obstacles, issues and challenges along the way, to become better people and better partners for each other. And in the end, Jane/Rafael became what the show promised it'd deliver at the beginning. Remember how Jane's unsuccessful first book Snow Falling was criticized? "There is a sense here of promise unfulfilled". Jafael becoming a couple, the endgame, finally fulfills that promise of growth, love, passion and HEA we, as viewers, were waiting for. (The same way her second book, the one about her family and love for Rafael is huge success). The writing did Jane/Rafael justice because it was the story about them.
  9. Or everything Jane/Rafael was given to Jane/Michael instead, because they needed to stall the endgame. I could even say that Rafael hurt Jane so badly that she ran away in another direction and shut down an important part of herself to be with Michael. She wanted desperately to be brave and to do what she liked (writing, traveling), but she was too afraid to live her full potential until Michael (who was the plan for her and who was "safe") "died". She would never ley go of her plan, to become a writer, to let herself to fall in love with Rafael again (who is the representation of all Jane ever wanted and was too scared to get), if Michael was "alive". She would never come back to Michael after such a drastic change, as well.
  10. The entire premise of the show, where Jane finds herself pregnant with her crush's child points towards it. What's more is that Jane and Rafael were introduced as two parts of the story in the first episode, while Michael didn't even have a mention in a scene when Jane and he kiss on the porch. It goes like that from there, and Jane clearly has feelings for Rafael even when she's married to her "true love". I mean, Rafael's rejection hurt Jane so badly she closed her heart for him until her editor says he's not sure Josephine even loved Rake, and Jane has a breakthrough and opens her heart to Raf again in season 3. The EP wanted Michael dead at the end of season 2 (and I'm assuming, "resurrection" at the beginning of season 4), to create an obstacle to established Jafael. They just prolonged Michael being alive for half a season, but in the end the result would be always the same -- Jane and Rafael finding their way back to each other and getting married.
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