16 And Pregnant - General Discussion

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There will be a new season coming up.  I don't know if this might be a sub-forum on the Teen Mom thread. FYI Teen Mom 2 will be cancelled after the current season is over. Teen Mom is likely not to return. Teen Mom 3 is definitely a dud that won't come back.

[Ljohnson1987]

I am excited to see this new season of 16 And Pregnant. I think the 11:00 time slot was not a good choice. 

[Birdee]

I was thinking that was kinda late myself. It's only 10:00 Central Time, but I still don't think I'll be staying up to watch it. I'll just DVR it and watch the next day.

[Rhondinella]

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[SpaghettiTuesdays]

Does anyone know when they'll be announcing the lineup? I know the new season premieres on the 29th (at 11?!? what?!?!) but I was wondering what order they will be presenting the girls.

[Ladystardust]

Actually, the premiere was pushed up to this Monday (the 14th) for some reason. Just saw a commercial for it yesterday. This website has a breakdown of some of the girls:

http://starcasm.net/archives/268232?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=photos-all-twelve-16-and-pregnant-season-5-girls

Oh, and according to my Tivo, it's back in the 10pm time slot as well.

Edited April 12, 2014 by Ladystardust

[SpaghettiTuesdays]

Thanks. I feel like maybe they haven't been pushing this season? I know I haven't heard an awful lot about it. I'll have to watch it tomorrow On Demand.

[SpaghettiTuesdays]

I was just doing some reading up on the show and can't believe how many girls have more children! I know that once a teenager has a child, there is a higher chance of them having more, but still! I counted at least 6 girls who have had more kids.

Will MTV be doing updates? Has anyone heard anything about that?

[ShaNaeNae]

I know this isn't exactly top quality photography, but looking at this picture of all the girls this season, they all look like shit. I mean that in the nicest way possible. They seem like no one owns a hair brush between them and they all own either a trashed/stretched hoodie or tank.

[RedKoolAide]

I think most of these moms from the first season until the most recent have been basketcases. It's hard to feel sympathy for them when there is so much education on safe sex. Even if they are taught abstinence most of these girls have smart phones to Google safe sex practices. These girls are not smart. It goes beyond making a mistake. These girls lack common sense and basic life skills.

I hope they don't make a Teen Mom 4 because it'd be awful to watch them continue to make bad choices and get paid for those bad choices.

[ShaNaeNae]

I know it RedKoolAide. I see their social media accounts and so many young girls asking them, just like this, "r u gonna b on Teen Mom 4? I hope so, cuz ur so prettyyyyy!" It's crazy they think being on TV is their meal ticket.  When going through the part of the episode where their friends ask them how they got pregnant, almost every one of these girls just kind of laughs about it with the stupidest excuse. "Well, we done it before with no per-tection and nothing happened so we just assumed I couldn't get preg-net." These parents also need to take the responsibility on educating their child, boy or girl.

 

When I was 17 and had been with my boyfriend (who is now my ex-husband) for a few months, we decided we were going to have sex for the first time. I was too afraid to tell my mom, but I knew if I got pregnant, I'd be even more afraid to tell her that. I didn't have a car or drivers license. Still no excuse there. I got on a bus and took it to my local Planned Parenthood and got myself on the pill. I couldn't use my medical insurance and didn't have money, but again, no excuses. This was in the 80's. How do girls still not know this? And I'll tell you for sure if I had gotten pregnant, I wouldn't be going on TV. Hell no, my mom would have never agreed to that.

[wrestlesflamingos]

You were lucky to live within a bus ride to planned parenthood.

[RedKoolAide]

And I'll tell you for sure if I had gotten pregnant, I wouldn't be going on TV. Hell no, my mom would have never agreed to that.

Yes. They're pretty much being rewarded for making bad choices. That's like getting a tv show for crashing your parents' car or failing senior year or something else that's completely avoidable. Yes, we watch the shows but I watch it to see how incredibly stupid these girls/boys are and if they'll mature at all.

[ShaNaeNae]

 

You were lucky to live within a bus ride to planned parenthood.

 

The point is I did what I had to do to protect myself. You see these girls riding with friends to go get their nails done. Ask a friend for a ride to a free clinic. Check a bus schedule. It's a lot less complicated than a baby.

[Fosca]

There isn't a Planned Parenthood within 100 miles of me.  I don't know of any free clinics either, so if girls want to go on the pill or other prescription method, they have to go to their family doctor (assuming they have insurance), and there's no guarantee of confidentiality.  That's why so many rely on condoms, which are readily available.  Of course, from what I understand, most males don't like wearing them, particularly the more immature ones (like we see on the show), and thus we have a lot of pregnant teens. 

 

I live in the South, like many of these girls.  I suspect that's not a coincidence.

[StatisticalOutlier]

The point is I did what I had to do to protect myself. You see these girls riding with friends to go get their nails done. Ask a friend for a ride to a free clinic. Check a bus schedule. It's a lot less complicated than a baby.

 

Very true, but nobody on this show, certainly, has ever given one thought about how complicated a baby will be, much less compared that to anything else. 

 

And the landscape has really changed in the last couple of decades.  I just checked in Texas, and was shocked at the number of Planned Parenthood locations that have closed, especially in the wake of the anti-abortion bill that was passed.  El Paso, Amarillo, Lubbock, Midland/Odessa--all closed.  Texas is 750 miles wide, from Louisiana to El Paso.  Every remaining PP location is on the north-south line from Oklahoma City down, or east of there.  Nothing whatsoever in the panhandle, west Texas, or El Paso.

 

The closest PP to someone in El Paso (population over 1,000,000) is in Albuquerque, about 250 miles away.  Same for Amarillo, except you can choose to go 250 miles to Albuquerque or 250 miles to Oklahoma City.  The closest PP to Midland/Odessa is 300 miles away, in either San Antonio or Dallas.

 

I'm sure there are free clinics, but the thing about PP was that they actively wanted you to be on birth control, and a few years ago I noticed they had started dropping the requirements for a physical exam before getting it.  I don't think free clinics (which from my experience are pretty dismal places, especially compared to PP locations) would have that same focus.  All of which can be pretty intimidating to a teenager sneaking around.  To me, PP = welcoming arms.  A free clinic = somewhere you can get birth control, probably.

 

Yeah, condoms abound, but I would never consider myself to be protecting myself from unwanted pregnancy by using one, since it's not 100% in my control (I can insist on it, but I can't know what's happening with it every single second), and the failure rate is quite high compared to prescription methods for me.

 

Not that any of these idiots even remotely think along these lines, but you know how people are always pleading, "If even ONE life can be saved by [insert inconvenience to many many others]" -- it's a shame that someone who might have been inclined to get a reliable form of birth control is thwarted to this degree.  So yeah, we thwart that behavior, but sometimes reward the bad behavior with TV stardom. 

[Brooklynista]

What makes me saddest about the lack of birth control is how these girls don't feel important enough to themselves to make the guys wear condoms. How are we not teaching our girls that if a guy doesn't want to wear a condom, it cool. Let him take his unwrapped cock elsewhere. It seems most of these girls just leave the condom use or non- use up to th guy. It's as if they take no control over their own bodies.

He doesn't like em, so we don't use em. Huh?? I am in charge of Miss Kitty. I run this. There are rules to this. And my mother equipped me with the confidence to be able to tell any guy the rules and make sure MY rules were followed. You don't want to follow the rules? Well then see ya. High school is full of stupid boys and I always knew I get get another one...or not, who cares?

These girls act as is they will just DIE if they are without a boyfriend for ten minutes. Why aren't these girls being taught that they are more important than some horny boy's erection?

[Ladystardust]

@Brooklynista - I completely agree! Even if they were on birth control, they are TEENAGERS. They should be using a condom regardless for STD/STI protection.

 

And I just can't even wrap my head around the whole "we've had sex before and didn't get pregnant, so I didn't think I could!! Hehe!". It's worth noting that probably 95% of these pregnancies could have been prevented with SOME sort of birth control. Very few were the result of a birth control method that failed. 

[IvySpice]

Yeah, and the ones that were supposedly about failed birth control -- "No one told me that antibiotics can make the pill less effective!" -- were never convincing. Come on. You thought that would be a convenient excuse after the fact.

[Ladystardust]

Or the "I thought I could miss a few pills/my next depo shot and be fine!!!" excuses. I think Leah was the one who was a month or two late for her depo shot and thought she would be okay. 

[WhitneyWhit]

It scares me that these girls only talk about birth control in relation to pregnancy, as that's the only thing can happen as a result of unprotected sex.  They think nothing of jumping into bed with guys they barely know, I'm honestly surprised we haven't heard of one, or more, catching something.

[Brooklynista]

Right! Is AIDS not a thing anymore? Has Herpes been eradicated? What about The Clap? That's over too?

It boggles the mind because ths generation we are watching have come up in world with HIV, so it drives me nuts that the don't even acknowledge the threat of STDs.

[FairyDusted]

Yup. And I'm sure not a one of them would consider regular blood work. The worst thing resulting in unprotected sex is not babies. It's dying. 

[Brooklynista]

Very true. Looking at some of these girls sexual habits , they're lucky the only thing they got was pregnant. Having sex with a guy within hours of meeting him on Facebook, rebound sex, sex with a boyfriend knowing he's a junkie.

Wise choices ladies. I don't see how all of them don't have crotch rot.

[RedKoolAide]

It wouldn't surprise me if a lot of these girls contracted STDs and MTV just didn't air it. STDs aren't "glamorous" but having a baby as teen because you "forgot" to take your BC is.

[CaughtOnTape]

Over and above the birth control issue....or lack thereof...is what these girls consider for boyfriend material.  I think the only one who was worth a shit was the kid who wasn't the father and was going to college....and Savon (was it her?) ran him out the door after having her kid and realizing it was a lot more work then she expected.

 

None of these boys can string together a coherent sentence, all of them seem to be insulting assholes when backed into a corner, and at least 2 or 3 of them have made some of THE most sexist degrading remarks ever to their girlfriend while ON CAMERA.  Which makes me shudder to know what they're saying when they're not on camera.

Is this what girls these days think is passable for a boyfriend?  I mean, I wasn't exactly trolling for Harvard grads when I was 16 either, but damn if my boyfriends weren't able to coherently speak to my parents.

 

This is why men will never change....the women in their lives don't hold them to a higher standard.  You teach people how to treat you and these girls seem to think it's a-ok and acceptable for a man to tell you that he can leave whenever the fuck he feels like it.  About the only thing we HAVE NOT seen yet this season in terms of abusive relationships is someone get smacked.  And even then I'm not so sure any of these girls would take off.

[Ljohnson1987]

When is the reunion?

[MitaJo]

When is the reunion?

Good question. I just came here to see if I missed it. It wasn't on this week and its not showing up for next week either.

[Ljohnson1987]

The reunion and unseen moments air on Tuesday. 

[fliptopbox]

Anyone know if this season is on demand? I missed a bunch of the episodes and wanted to see em....and at the unpredictable rate MTV reruns shows that aren't Catfish and Ridiculousness I may never see them..

[Guest]

They aren't on Comcrap's OnDemand.

[bref]

Most episodes can be seen here if you can put up with the commercials.

[FairyDusted]

No one is watching ? 

[Maharincess]

I just started watching the reunion. The first chick's eyebrows are killing me. I don't remember any of their names but Eyebrows kids dad talking about how much his shoes and watch cost made me want to punch him.

His feet on the table and his incoherent mumbles made me want to punch him as well.

Seriously....what is with those damn eyebrows?!

I'm so glad my adult children are literate, functioning members of society. If my kids were like these kids, especially the first punk, I'd go jump off the Golden Gate.

Edited July 2, 2014 by Maharincess

[Brooklynista]

Did Mr Nike Foam Posite (the sneakers) really toss $20 in singles up in the air like he was ballin'?? My hubby happened to be in the room and couldn't stop laughing at that. He had to have rehearsed that with his boys for weeks! If that wasnt bad enough, I couldn't understand a damn word he was saying. Only that he had $500 that he felt should go to those ugly ass sneakers and not his child.

And seriously....what was up with her eyebrows?? They looked like dirty caterpillars.

[IvySpice]

I love it that in the deleted scenes episode, Abstinence Chick is all over her man for looking at porn on his phone -- he can't even look at other girls. What?!? That's a stupid and unrealistic requirement even if you ARE attempting to meet your man's needs. But if you aren't, who the hell are you to tell him he can't even jerk off? Why don't you just require him to cut his dick off and put it in a jar until you decide he's permitted to have access to it?

[FozzyBear]

What's strange to me is the reoccurring motif of "we need more money for the baby! Don't take that well paying job out of town!" What do these girls expect? Most of them live in areas with no jobs and have boyfriends with few skills, but half of them freak out when the father wants to move to get a job. I don't think the girls are stupid because they got pregnant, hell I've got 40 year old friends who know better who have found themselves knocked up by the wrong guy. I think they're stupid because of things like that!

[kathybgd]

What season are Kail, Janelle, Leah and Chelsea? Are they all from the same season of 16 and preg? I would like to go back and see what all the back stories are (especially Janelle and Barb). I went through the link up thread but can,t really find anything much on these guys, only reunions and interviews. Would their be anything on Netflix or you tube? Gee! Maybe I should look!

Edited October 3, 2014 by kathybgd

[wrestlesflamingos]

2nd season season, I believe. Available on amazon prime, I think mtv's site, and sometimes youtube. Unsure about netflix.

[PlanetSassy]

What season are Kail, Janelle, Leah and Chelsea? Are they all from the same season of 16 and preg? I would like to go back and see what all the back stories are ...

 

Have some tissues ready, for Chelsea's episode.  It was really upsetting to me.

[kathybgd]

Thank you!

[FozzyBear]

I would be down for a research thread.

[hunneytot]

I just watched them on amazon prime! Not sure if Netflix has them.

[SunnyBeBe]

Can anyone tell the name of the mother on this show who had the following:  She kept waiting for the baby's father to come after the birth, but, he lied about buying a ticket. He did eventually show up and helped take care of the baby while she returned to school.  On her first day returning to school, her sister leaves school and moves out of the house.  She's very upset about this.  I missed the first part and I don't know what the relationships were.  She continues to live in the house with her mom and the baby's daddy.  Oh, the baby stopped breathing right after birth and they kept it in the hospital for a couple of days after birth, but was okay.  

[Christina]

23 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said:

Can anyone tell the name of the mother on this show who had the following:  

Since I just rewatched that episode the other morning, I think I found it on Wikipedia:

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Sabrina Solares (now Rosario) is 16-years-old and a cheerleader from Los Angeles, California, pregnant by her boyfriend, Iman Williams. After getting pregnant, she moves to Franklin, Tennessee to be near her mother and the episode's focus is on Williams' promises to move to Tennessee and his lack of follow through on those promises. Due to complications, Solares is induced and Audrey Animi Solares is born on August 21, 2011 rushed to NICU, while Williams is still in California. Shortly thereafter, Williams shows up unannounced to live in Tennessee. The remainder of the episode focuses on Solares' building of her relationship with Williams while her relationship with the rest of her family suffers. Solares and Williams would go on to break up.

As of 2016, she is married to Albert Rosario

Aired: May 15 2012

[SunnyBeBe]

Thanks.  I also read that she had a cancer diagnosis.  Anyone know if she's okay?

[FairyDusted]

Wow. Recently I read about a Teen Dad in intensive care( he lived with grams and they moved into a small guest house on her property( Miranda and Eric maybe), Val? that OD'ed and now this. 

[Maharincess]

I know this thread is pretty much dead and I'm probably talking to myself. I just re watched Katie's episode and it pissed me the hell off.  From the start, Katie said she did not want an epidural. Every damn time she said that she didnt want one, people laughed at her!  She told her nurse that she didnt want one and the nurse laughed at her and said she would change her mind.   I had two kids naturally, yes it hurt like hell but it doesn't last forever and women have been giving birth naturally for a very, very long time.   I just thought it was so wrong that the so called medical professionals laughed at her when she said she wanted to do it naturally.  

And, she was a trooper and didnt get the epidural. 

[BrianJ1962]

I read somewhere Myranda lost custody of her children, is this true?

[Christina]

A new batch of episodes will soon air. It looks like they are planning on producing it like the Teen Mom shows as opposed to one episode per mother.

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The Wrap reports that the new episodes of “16 and Pregnant” will still follow teens who find themselves knocked up unexpectedly; however, the new episodes will not focus as much on the pregnant girl but rather all of those who will be affected by the pregnancy.“The 2020 reiteration…will follow the unexpected pregnancy journey from multiple perspectives, not just from the young mother, according to MTV’s description,” the site reports. “Video confessionals from members of each family aim to allow the series to more substantively explore the lives of those impacted by the experience.”

The Ashley Reality Roundup also has the information on the six girls.