Salem International: Casting Notes: Arrivals & Departures

[Irlandesa]

1 hour ago, Snapplefire said:

Can someone confirm if Stefan is really gone. I have been reading this forum for the past hour and this seems to be where that rumor came from. If the 7/8 months tapping schedule is true, shouldn't bb have been gone already?

If I recall correctly, I think initially it was believed that Tyler would only be gone temporarily but then we learned he was gone for good. 

[Snapplefire]

13 minutes ago, Irlandesa said:

If I recall correctly, I think initially it was believed that Tyler would only be gone temporarily but then we learned he was gone for good. 

I figured that, but now all of a sudden I'm seeing people on Twitter saying sefan dies and bb is gone.

[Jaded]

19 minutes ago, Snapplefire said:

I figured that, but now all of a sudden I'm seeing people on Twitter saying sefan dies and bb is gone.

I misplaced this song recently in relation to something else.

[howmanywords]

48 minutes ago, Snapplefire said:

I figured that, but now all of a sudden I'm seeing people on Twitter saying sefan dies and bb is gone.

If this turns out to be true I will be parked in the bitterness thread, probably endlessly bitching about this. If I haven't made my fangirling obvious I'm a huge BB/Stabi fan. Why are we still stuck with Rafe and Eric who I want to always bitch slap?

[Snapplefire]

13 hours ago, howmanywords said:

If this turns out to be true I will be parked in the bitterness thread, probably endlessly bitching about this. If I haven't made my fangirling obvious I'm a huge BB/Stabi fan. Why are we still stuck with Rafe and Eric who I want to always bitch slap?

After investigating it I'm beginning to think the person who made this claim probably confused Stefan's jail time as a departure. This comment and Camilla posting the ring spoiler in January (which the episode will air this week) , gives the impression Ted's trial might be a short exit for bb. Right now it all depends on what Vivian's and chabi's arrival storylines are..... It's strange there hasn't been anything official released, since  his departure should be within the month.

[DaphneCat]

3 hours ago, Snapplefire said:

It's strange there hasn't been anything official released, since  his departure should be within the month.

Did we know Ted was out?

[CanaryFan98]

4 hours ago, DaphneCat said:

Did we know Ted was out?

Yes that was announced months ago.

[Happytobehere]

Does anyone know when Stephen Nichols will be returning as Steve?

[mariah23]

1 minute ago, Happytobehere said:

Does anyone know when Stephen Nichols will be returning as Steve?

Sometime in the fall.

[QueenSerena]

15 minutes ago, Happytobehere said:

Does anyone know when Stephen Nichols will be returning as Steve?

The popular theory is November sweeps, which lines up with his reported return to filming.

[Happytobehere]

6 minutes ago, QueenSerena said:

The popular theory is November sweeps, which lines up with his reported return to filming.

Thanks.

[TenaciousWarrior]

According to DR, JJ and Haley are out.

[YupItsMe]

Just now, TenaciousWarrior said:

According to DR, JJ and Haley are out.

Okay for Haley, but I hope not JJ!

[WendyCR72]

6 minutes ago, YupItsMe said:

Okay for Haley, but I hope not JJ!

Maybe he wanted to leave? But yeah, if true, it sucks where JJ is concerned. Don't give a rat's ass about Haley.

[boes]

16 minutes ago, TenaciousWarrior said:

According to DR, JJ and Haley are out.

I'd help her pack, but not JJ.  Show has really wasted him, IMO.  I hope Casey Moss goes on to bigger and better things.

[TenaciousWarrior]

2 hours ago, YupItsMe said:

Okay for Haley, but I hope not JJ!

I say bye JJ! He’s been boring since he’s been neutered. 

[CanaryFan98]

2 hours ago, TenaciousWarrior said:

According to DR, JJ and Haley are out.

I wonder if they get an HEA  or that Chabby return full time I always thought the show only kept JJ around because he gives Jennifer a storyline but if Abby were to return for good they won't need JJ. 

Regardless I'm ok with this I mean I hope Casey finds something else so I can enjoy him.

I'll miss JJ with his family though but if he leaves with a happy ending I couldn't ask for anything more. Its bad enough they made the character a nice guy loser sticking around would only get worse for him. They don't know how to write for him either. I mean if this story is the best they can do for him Casey is better off leaving.

I think its a blessing in disguise for him.

2 hours ago, WendyCR72 said:

Maybe he wanted to leave? But yeah, if true, it sucks where JJ is concerned. Don't give a rat's ass about Haley.

I'd be surprised if he chose to leave considering he's taken the crap material he's been given and could've left earlier if he wanted to. Maybe he got a better gig here's hoping.

Edited August 15, 2019 by CanaryFan98

[DisneyBoy]

😞 Like him. And his character has yet to be run into the ground.

(Please don't leave with Haley!)

[CanaryFan98]

9 minutes ago, DisneyBoy said:

😞 Like him. And his character has yet to be run into the ground.

(Please don't leave with Haley!)

Except he has not because of being overexposed like other characters but because they have emasculated him completely.  I'm pretty sure he's leaving with Haley if both are out at the same time.  Then again does the show really care about JJ/Haley enough to give them a HEA? I could see where Haley dies and JJ leaves to start over(that would be my ideal scenario honestly). I'd say the flip side but this show doesn't give Haley any spine or pulse to do anything by herself.  I wonder who's taking their place on the show? I wouldn't be surprised if Chabby stuck around FT then the show can write for the J&J spawn they always cared about instead of the spare(who I always found more preferable). I always figured that would be the only way they'd get rid of JJ(unless Casey chose to leave).

[DisneyBoy]

As a guy, I find it kinda gross to say they've "emasculated him" just because he's been all about helping his girlfriends (Theresa wasn't technically a GF, but you know what I mean). I know folks would rather he were a bad boy or tough guy again, but it doesn't make him less of a man to be nice.

Would we say Ciara has been "defeminized" because she's all about Ben?

I really find Haley to be weak tea....the ideal situation would be she breaks up with JJ and leaves with her mama. Let JJ take a cruise or a trip to LA to visit Theresa or something.

[boes]

2 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

As a guy, I find it kinda gross to say they've "emasculated him" just because he's been all about helping his girlfriends (Theresa wasn't technically a GF, but you know what I mean). I know folks would rather he were a bad boy or tough guy again, but it doesn't make him less of a man to be nice.

Would we say Ciara has been "defeminized" because she's all about Ben?

I really find Haley to be weak tea....the ideal situation would be she breaks up with JJ and leaves with her mama. Let JJ take a cruise or a trip to LA to visit Theresa or something.

I agree, 1000%. I like JJ even more as a white hat character.  All these villains have gotten far more boring, for me, anyway.  If I wanted to watch wall to wall asshats, all I have to do is watch the news.

[CanaryFan98]

11 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

As a guy, I find it kinda gross to say they've "emasculated him" just because he's been all about helping his girlfriends (Theresa wasn't technically a GF, but you know what I mean). I know folks would rather he were a bad boy or tough guy again, but it doesn't make him less of a man to be nice.

Would we say Ciara has been "defeminized" because she's all about Ben?

I really find Haley to be weak tea....the ideal situation would be she breaks up with JJ and leaves with her mama. Let JJ take a cruise or a trip to LA to visit Theresa or something.

In RL? No but on soaps it does because that's how they see nice guys is my point. I mean really name a nice guy on soaps  that is a focal point and its ok for him to be nice.  No the leading men on soaps are the villains or reformed serial killers etc. The nice guys are timid or doormats for the women in their lives. Once upon a time soaps used to write for nice characters and they used to lead the show and drive stories and actually be characters that mattered. Those days are long gone. At this point if you're bad stay that way. Being good is a ticket to irrelevancy/off the show.

I mean really JJ should've told Haley to get bent after she started saying she wanted him but had to marry someone else's boyfriend. Then try and bang someone else. He would at least have a spine but no because he's nice he's a complete doormat. That's how soaps see nice guys (look at Eric with Nicole) . Ever since they made JJ nice he's been shoved into the background unless a lame social justice issue storyline is involved. At least when he was a terrible person he got storylines/airtime. That's how anyone gets airtime on this show. I mean Claire was ignored for how long until she went crazy... 

I really wish people would stop putting JJ with Theresa I rather see him killed off than that. Especially since you think Haley is ungrateful Theresa is worse. I mean this chick tried to send him to jail a few years back JJ being nice to her was just ridiculous. If it was Eve or Gabi it would make sense past history and all. Theresa? Not so much. At least Haley appears attracted to him.

I don't mind Melinda though she has potential she didn't need to be related to Haley (although I don't get why they were related to begin with unless it leads to something else like who her father is etc) However since JJ is leaving I rather he leave after she dies to deal with his grief and if he returns for J&J's wedding he has Bev/Roxanne right beside him.

As for Ciara yes I think she's be defeminized because she's a blowup doll/appendage for Ben and not much else. It will only get worse for her because she's staying.

Edited August 16, 2019 by CanaryFan98

[DisneyBoy]

In spite of everything, I do like that Eric and JJ are good guys. Heck, so is John. I don't find him boring. Could the writing overall be more nuanced? Absolutely. But I'm glad there are still a couple of male characters not swaggering around in leather.

[Silver Raven]

Dr. Rolf is back in September.  I wonder if it's part of the Vivian storyline.

[enchantingmonkey]

I didn't know Dr Rolf was still alive, although that means just about nothing on this show.  But if the show insists on keeping it stupid, I do enjoy the mad scientist aspect of the character.  

[DisneyBoy]

Yay. Maybe now we can find out what on Earth he saw in Susan.

[JBC344]

36 minutes ago, DisneyBoy said:

Yay. Maybe now we can find out what on Earth he saw in Susan.

Ha ha, Susan may be the epitome of odd, but the woman has never had a problem pulling a man!!

Roger is good looking, and Edmund was sexy as hell. 

When Susan wants too she can put on the charm. He'll, she duped Kristen twice and married John. 

Ironically Dr. Rolf (the character) is the least attractive man that's been in Susan's orbit. 

[CanaryFan98]

12 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

In spite of everything, I do like that Eric and JJ are good guys. Heck, so is John. I don't find him boring. Could the writing overall be more nuanced? Absolutely. But I'm glad there are still a couple of male characters not swaggering around in leather.

Well John lucked out on having past reputation to fall back on but other than lately how often do we see him? For the nice guys in the 20-40 range well it sucks for them story wise they get no real action. I know people don't like Eric/Sarah(neither do I really) however I rather see that then Eric moping about Nicole which is what his existence is reduced to(if no her Sarah.) Look how far JJ has fallen he had such potential and the show destroyed it and now he's off the show because of it.

[MsTree]

11 hours ago, Silver Raven said:

Dr. Rolf is back in September.  I wonder if it's part of the Vivian storyline.

Great! Now he can make more of his magic potion so Jack can regain his memory.

[Kitty Redstone]

I'm still not watching but checking in every so often to see if there are changes for the better.  Apparently not.  So they're letting go of Casey Moss, a very good actor who can play a broad range of material ... and bringing back Kate Mansi, a horrible actor who only knows how to play smug?  WTF is wrong with the people who run this show?

[CanaryFan98]

KM's Abby is part of a popular pairing that has a following and she does have a fanbase. Plus this show has always coveted Abby as the J&J spawn they want to write for even if I find JJ far superior. 

None of these things Casey/JJ has going for him even if I think he's a way more talented actor.

I think he's better off and if I thought Days was going to last past Sept 2020 I'd be more bothered but strangely am not. I just hope he pops up in something else that I can actually enjoy him in.

[CanaryFan98]

Well at least we'll have a last airdate for JJ/Casey Moss

Edited August 19, 2019 by CanaryFan98

[DisneyBoy]

Please don't leave with Haley *crosses fingers*

Edited August 19, 2019 by DisneyBoy

[CanaryFan98]

I could see the show being cruel enough to give JJ brief happiness only for them to kill off Haley and JJ leaves town to deal with his grief(I would prefer that ending). That being said  since they seem to think Haley is wonderful etc I think they will actually get married and leave the show much like Chabby did a year earlier except outside of J&J getting remarried I don't see them returning long term like Chabby.

[TenaciousWarrior]

I read on DR that Matthew Ashford might have been bumped to recurring. They never called him to renew his contract. Also, he might have been just given an extension to wrap up the current story and then he’ll be on his way out. 

Ill be pissed if this happened. Why does this show keep shitting on JnJ fans?

[boes]

11 minutes ago, TenaciousWarrior said:

I read on DR that Matthew Ashford might have been bumped to recurring. They never called him to renew his contract. Also, he might have been just given an extension to wrap up the current story and then he’ll be on his way out. 

Ill be pissed if this happened. Why does this show keep shitting on JnJ fans?

So will I.  As far as I'm concerned, their storyline hasn't even really started.

[Lastwaltz]

1 hour ago, TenaciousWarrior said:

Why does this show keep shitting on JnJ fans?

1 hour ago, boes said:

So will I.  As far as I'm concerned, their storyline hasn't even really started.

For crying out loud, show, why?? Is DR always reliable? 

[Irlandesa]

If that's true, I'm free again.  

But once Steve came back, I feel I could have predicted this. It's like they can never be on the show at the same time.

[DisneyBoy]

Budgets? Sigh.

Man that'd be so stupid. Bringing Jack back from the dead and giving him amnesia for the better part of a year only to wrap it up super quick and push him off canvas again. The only consolation would be if he took Jennifer with him. I'm done with her.

[WendyCR72]

4 hours ago, TenaciousWarrior said:

I read on DR that Matthew Ashford might have been bumped to recurring. They never called him to renew his contract. Also, he might have been just given an extension to wrap up the current story and then he’ll be on his way out. 

Ill be pissed if this happened. Why does this show keep shitting on JnJ fans?

Flush this turd of a show. I guess for Ron, if Jack can't prop his pet actor, he can go. Fuck Ron.

[CanaryFan98]

5 hours ago, TenaciousWarrior said:

I read on DR that Matthew Ashford might have been bumped to recurring. They never called him to renew his contract. Also, he might have been just given an extension to wrap up the current story and then he’ll be on his way out. 

Ill be pissed if this happened. Why does this show keep shitting on JnJ fans?

Isn't MR's contract up in September? Makes me think that they don't believe Days will last much longer and are writing the endings of certain characters I could see them give J&J a HEA before they go off the air. If that's the case it works(although it fits in with how the show can't write for couples together and just do it to send them off the show).

So who's going to rep the Hortons if Jennifer is gone? Hope? Julie? Jennifer is one that actually relishes being the maternal one and has the Horton Xmas. Hope/Julie not so much. Its why the Jennifer/JJ/Abby branch of the family tree has worked this decade because their bonds seem more authentic than the others.

However I really should've seen this coming Kate doesn't want to stick around full time (strangely if she did then they might've kept the rest of the family). The show doesn't care for JJ/Casey that much (as if that wasn't obvious) and so without their kids where does that leave J&J.

Plus with SN's return it usually means MA is gone that being said we're actually going to get Steve/Jack scenes this time around.

[WendyCR72]

I'm not as confident Days is done. Yeah, ratings aren't good, but NBC really has nothing to replace it with, not to mention the ratings would likely be comparable. Time will tell. But I think it is just the show's usual FU to Matt Ashford. I get a pay check is a pay check, but I would have still paid attention if I were Ashford in terms of the show's behavioral history towards him in the past.

[CanaryFan98]

There are talk show pilots out there with Drew Barrymore, Kelly Clarkson etc. I mean AMC and OLTL were replaced by The Chew and The Revolution both are gone. 

As long as its cheap and fills the airwaves that's all they care about . If these networks really cared about quality they would've done more to keep these soaps afloat rather than tread water the past 20 years.

[WendyCR72]

Just now, CanaryFan98 said:

There are talk show pilots out there with Drew Barrymore, Kelly Clarkson etc. I mean AMC and OLTL were replaced by The Chew and The Revolution both are gone. 

As long as its cheap and fills the airwaves that's all they care about . If these networks really cared about quality they would've done more to keep these soaps afloat rather than tread water the past 20 years.

True, but Days is an NBC property whereas these cheap talk shows are syndicated and can air on any network, any station. While Sony and Corday get whatever cash there is, I have to assume NBC still benefits somehow.

[howmanywords]

Even if NBC continues to see some value I have to wonder how long the downward trajectory will go.  The ratings suck and I'm seeing more and more people who I know who have watched for years now not bothering. I myself I'm at the point where I check to see who's on and I decide if I want to bother watching. This shit about MA, if its true, its just pushing me a little further out the door.  Ron can just keep propping up his pets 🤮

[Irlandesa]

"DOOL will be cancelled" has become the next "Matthew Broderick and Sarah Jessica Parker are getting a divorce."  I've been hearing it for years and while one day it might true (probably true in the case of DOOL), I'm not putting money down at the track that anyone can really know or predict.

6 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

Bringing Jack back from the dead and giving him amnesia for the better part of a year only to wrap it up super quick and push him off canvas again.

That's what's even more frustrating.  The show wasted about 7 or 8 months with this Eve story.  That's the kind of story you throw in when you want to draw out a story because they haven't really gotten into the meat of it or what people who want Jack back expected to see (i.e. J&J.) At this point, if he's really gone, they may as well keep him with amnesia.  It'd prevent another death/back-from-dead story when the show finally wraps for good. It'd explain why he's not with Jennifer. 

But it'll rush through him regaining his memory/reunion and then either kill him again or come up with another ridiculous excuse like taking over for wherever Steve was.

Edited August 21, 2019 by Irlandesa

[CanaryFan98]

2 hours ago, howmanywords said:

Even if NBC continues to see some value I have to wonder how long the downward trajectory will go.  The ratings suck and I'm seeing more and more people who I know who have watched for years now not bothering. I myself I'm at the point where I check to see who's on and I decide if I want to bother watching. This shit about MA, if its true, its just pushing me a little further out the door.  Ron can just keep propping up his pets 🤮

At some point something will break I mean its not as if they're going to get a bigger budget with each renewal the budget gets smaller. At some point it won't be sustainable to put out a soap. That's how GL met its demise.

Unless J&J leave together they should've just let Jack stay dead honestly. His return would end up being pointless otherwise.

Edited August 21, 2019 by CanaryFan98

[SueB]

Sure seems to me they are testing their streaming show as an alternative.  Don't know what that means in terms of cohesive story -- because it's very dribs and drabs so far, I think retaining an audience requires consistency.

[mariah23]

Hey, the people at DR found out the person who tweeted about MA's contract status was lying to get a rise of out of Jack fans.  It's on DR's social media thread.

[Lastwaltz]

13 minutes ago, mariah23 said:

Hey, the people at DR found out the person who tweeted about MA's contract status was lying to get a rise of out of Jack fans.  It's on DR's social media thread.

And it worked like a charm, lol. Glad to hear this news, thanks!