S06.E10: The Next World

[Cobalt Stargazer]

This right here. connection from the beginning, and when I dared to speak of it, I was dismissed, ridiculed, condescended to, called a "shipper" which I am not, lectured to about the difference between fiction and reality, lectured to about how the ultimate and most respected form of male/female interaction is a platonic friendship, and became embroiled in several deep, deep talks about race.  All because I saw what was actually written into the material and acted out by the actors.  I ended up retreating to Tumblr and unwittingly starting my own blog. LOL.  I don't know how to make Gifs so I started my blog so that I could reblog the posts that I liked for my own reference and amusement and could show my friends exactly what I was talking about when I referred to the chemistry between these two actors and how them as a couple should be endgame.  I looked up one day and realized I had about 80 followers.  LOL.  Vindication is nice, I guess, but mostly this has reinforced that I need to trust my own instincts, regardless of how much push back I get.  That it is indeed possible to be right when everybody else says you're wrong.

 

Just as a note, there is absolutely nothing wrong with being a shipper. :-)

 

I've watched a shameful amount of television in my life, seen connections between characters who stood no chance of going there, at least in canon, for a variety of reasons that are too off-topic for this thread. I've discovered that pairings I thought were happening actually did happen, but only off-screen, so I never actually witnessed it. So to see the slow unfolding of Michonne's relationship with Rick finally reach the next step (because as others have said, in the zombie apocalypse people* would more than likely be screwing left, right, and sideways just out of pure relief that they were alive once it was safe enough to do so) isn't just vindicating for me, it's joyous. And proof that I don't always have to turn to fanfiction to see my favorite couples together.

 

*Except for Daryl the Unwashed, who looks like he escaped from the old Carnivale set. XD

Edited February 24, 2016 by Cobalt Stargazer

[Scaeva]

If someone had spoiled this episode for me and told me that a hipster was going to show up to epically ruin Rick and Darryl's day, I'd be thinking I'm going to want that person to die painfully.

 

...but I couldn't help but be amused by Jesus' antics. He seems like he could be an interesting character, so I hope the writers have him become part of the team rather than a Negan mole who brings Alexandria crashing down. 

 

In Australia we call it soft drink. Imagine my confusion as a kid reading American books and watching American TV, I wondered why people kept wanting 'pop' - Pop was my grandfather! And 'soda' to us is soda water as in 'I'll have a vodka, lime and soda'.

 

Pop is confusing for a lot of Americans as well. It's just a regional thing with certain parts of the Midwest. The first time I heard someone use it I had the same reaction as Darryl. To my Northeastern ear, it also sounds ridiculously quaint. 

[lulee]

Correct me if I am wrong that Judith is 10 months old? so she still can't walk

I don't think they've ever specified her age on the show. As a result, the show can be vague about where she might be at developmentally. But you're right that if she's 10 mos, she shouldn't be expected to walk yet... unless the acorns gave her superpowers.

[piequinn35]

I don't think they've ever specified her age on the show. As a result, the show can be vague about where she might be at developmentally. But you're right that if she's 10 mos, she shouldn't be expected to walk yet... unless the acorns gave her superpowers.

I calculated based on the timeline on wikia :) my daughter who is 14 months is still not walking on her own, just with a walker or me holding her

[maystone]

Like most of you, I really enjoyed this ep. I'm also someone who was hoping that Richonne would not happen because I'm a big fan of showing platonic, close friendships between men and women. But, yeah, the way it played out worked for me. Good job, show.

 

Mostly, though, I've been thinking about Carl. I wonder if the show is going to address how he's adjusting physically and emotionally to having his eye shot out of his head (pretty much). He seemed fine in the opening scene, cheerfully annoying the adults by bouncing the ball off the wall, but out in the woods with Enid he seemed snappish and remote - both of which seem completely normal considering the circumstances. I don't expect the writers to devote a whole episode to it, but I wonder if there's going to be something more overt. I mean he's been a badass for a few years now, but he's still just past being a kid.

 

I think I'm in the minority for liking Enid, and I really liked her in her scene with Carl. Her time with Glenn seems to have settled her down; she doesn't want to be hanging out in the woods with the walkers anymore, but she also was going to support Carl. I think that she could end up being a good friend to him, the way Michonne is to Rick. Maybe without sex part, though :) How old are they supposed to be now?

 

ETA: I lived most of my life in southern New England where it was soda. I'm living in southern Ontario now, and I hear both soda and pop.

Edited February 24, 2016 by maystone

[lulee]

I calculated based on the timeline on wikia :) my daughter who is 14 months is still not walking on her own, just with a walker or me holding her

I just returned from the wikia. By their approximation, she should be about 306 days - so you're right - about 10 mos. it's really crazy how much has happened in those months.

[catrox14]

I feel like I need to weigh in on the pop/soda discussion.

 

I'm a transplanted Coloradan living in SoCal for umpteen years. I have always called any soft drink a Coke (which might be my southern born parents influence) or soda.  Never used pop ever. Still don't.  I'm weird though.

[Save Yourself]

Correct me if I am wrong that Judith is 10 months old? so she still can't walk

I'm in childcare and I had a 10 month old last year who could walk - and quite well! It looked really odd to see such a little thing walking.

ETA - the baby who plays Judith looks about 14 months but it's hard getting the right age babies in showbiz as the need for the right temperament etc and Judith is so damn cute I'm not too worried who they use. It is frustrating not knowing the TWD timeline.

Edited February 24, 2016 by Save Yourself

[Save Yourself]

Daryl always looks like he's about to keel over from hard living to me.

On the other hand, man, I love watching Rick run. I think it's the slight bowleggedness that does it for me. The man is hella sexy.

Yes NR has aged really rapidly since the first season, the difference is quie startling.

[lulee]

I'm in childcare and I had a 10 month old last year who could walk - and quite well! It looked really odd to see such a little thing walking.

ETA - the baby who plays Judith looks about 14 months but it's hard getting the right age babies in showbiz as the need for the right temperament etc and Judith is so damn cute I'm not too worried who they use. It is frustrating not knowing the TWD timeline.

I feel quite irrationally sad that they may not know when Judith's birthday is. Hopefully she'll live to see it and have a cake decorated with acorn designs.

All birthdays have probably fallen by the wayside, but the first is most special.

[Save Yourself]

I feel quite irrationally sad that they may not know when Judith's birthday is. Hopefully she'll live to see it and have a cake decorated with acorn designs.

All birthdays have probably fallen by the wayside, but the first is most special.

That IS sad! I hadn't thought of that before. It is a very big deal to turn one, especially when your first 12 months in this life you've had people and monsters trying to kill you.

[Rosiejuliemom]

I calculated based on the timeline on wikia :) my daughter who is 14 months is still not walking on her own, just with a walker or me holding her

 

That moment when you know you've been watching this show too much lately: When you read this and picture a baby with a walker pet on a leash instead of an actual baby walker. 

[bosawks]

If someone had spoiled this episode for me and told me that a hipster was going to show up to epically ruin Rick and Darryl's day, I'd be thinking I'm going to want that person to die painfully.

...but I couldn't help but be amused by Jesus' antics. He seems like he could be an interesting character, so I hope the writers have him become part of the team rather than a Negan mole who brings Alexandria crashing down.

Pop is confusing for a lot of Americans as well. It's just a regional thing with certain parts of the Midwest. The first time I heard someone use it I had the same reaction as Darryl. To my Northeastern ear, it also sounds ridiculously quaint.

I love regional colloquialisms. I'm from the NE and went to school in Wisconsin and it took until my senior year to realize "the bubbler" was in fact a water fountain.....

[peach]

God yes- this 'moral quandary' has been milked for YEARS with characters switching sides as suits, I can't believe they're still rehashing it. Also whoever posted the Big Lebowski video, yes! Every time Jesus outwitted them I thought "don't fuck with the Jesus!"

 

Yeah, but to be fair to Daryl, he tried to help those jerks in the woods recently, and they stole his motorcycle AND HIS CROSSBOW.  So I can see why he's like, you know, RIck was right.  Screw finding more people.  HIS CROSSBOW!

[AngelaHunter]

I love watching Rick run. I think it's the slight bowleggedness that does it for me.

 

Great! I was always too embarassed to admit I like a man with slightly bowed legs. No idea why.

[mandolin]

Yeah, but to be fair to Daryl, he tried to help those jerks in the woods recently, and they stole his motorcycle AND HIS CROSSBOW.  So I can see why he's like, you know, RIck was right.  Screw finding more people.  HIS CROSSBOW!

Daryl missing his crossbow isn't as jarring for me as Michonne was without her katana, but I hope he gets another one soon.

[EllenC]

 

Yes NR has aged really rapidly since the first season, the difference is quie startling.

I think part of it, in his case, is the overly long, unnaturally dark and dirty hair. But I'm always quite startled when I see seasons 1 and 2 and think, wow, they've all really aged/weathered. (The few who are still here.)

 

Then I think, duh, it's the 6th season -- and crap, how much have I AGED in that time? UGH! (And I'm not working as hard as they are. NR's schedule/travel schedule seems brutal, on top of running about in the sun for months.) 

Edited February 24, 2016 by EllenC

[mandolin]

 I ended up retreating to Tumblr and unwittingly starting my own blog. LOL.  I don't know how to make Gifs so I started my blog so that I could reblog the posts that I liked for my own reference and amusement and could show my friends exactly what I was talking about when I referred to the chemistry between these two actors and how them as a couple should be endgame. 

I'd love to see your blog! Would you share it or PM it to me?

[ParadoxLost]

Yeah, but to be fair to Daryl, he tried to help those jerks in the woods recently, and they stole his motorcycle AND HIS CROSSBOW.  So I can see why he's like, you know, RIck was right.  Screw finding more people.  HIS CROSSBOW!

 

Daryl switching back kind of makes sense when you remember the screwy actual order of events in the longest two days ever.  Daryl helps jerks in woods, Daryl blows up motorcycle gang with RPG, Daryl goes home to find the horde overrunning Alexandria, Daryl finds out horde was drawn to Alexandria by Wolves, Daryl finds out Wolves killed a bunch of people, Daryl finds out Wolves found Alexandria because of his first trip to find people, and finally Carol complains to Daryl about Morgan's dumb philosophy and someone tells Daryl Morgan knocked Carol unconscious.  So one trip to find people set off a crap ton of trouble.

[nachomama]

Morgankobi likes mooshy peanuts and cilantro! Dun dun dun...close the blankets cousin morgankobi needs his priv a-see!

Did Jesus have a hipster beard or just bad beard decoy? I'd be more insulted to be called a hipster than Jesus. What does he want to talk about with Rick? Does he have advice for the boudoir? Or is he in Alexandria like Rick and them who has much to teach them about the flying ninja Jesus moves?

[CarpeDiem54]

RE: Judith's age. I'm watching a rerun now (S3, Ep 5) where Daryl and Maggie come back from a run to the prison with formula (Daryl calls her Li'l Asskicker for the first time!) and Carl looks to be about 10 or 11 (he now looks 16 or 17), Daryl looks 40 (he now looks like a rode hard and put away wet 50) and Judith is supposed to be a newborn (but looks about 4 months old), so I'm guessing she should be 5 by now. ;-)

[ACW]

Rick, as sexual predator. Funny.

At the time, Rick really was in full-on predator mode (wolf-like, one might say); and when his interests turned to sex, his methodology was to fight (and eventually kill) another male and take their mate. Not a "sexual predator" in the current usage, but a predator seeking sex.

He even got all her previous children killed, which is symbolically wolf-like. As is removing a limb to escape a trap.

Edited February 24, 2016 by ACW

[TattleTeeny]

Really? But wasn't Jessie a "slut"? Or maybe I'm thinking of Andrea. Or Lori. What brings forth the appelation of slut from so many righteous viewers of this show? It can't be a woman who has sex with a man not her husband because I don't think I've seen Rosita or Maggie or now Michonne being so labelled. So that narrows it down to woman who has sex with a man when she believes herself to be a widow (Lori) OR who has sex with *gasp* TWO men (Andrea). Those sluts! How dare they?

Thank you. Precisely why I don't even get the term "slut" (though as a word, it's kind of a funny one).

[catrox14]

At the time, Rick really was in full-on predator mode (wolf-like, one might say); and when his interests turned to sex, his methodology was to fight (and eventually kill) another male and take their mate. Not a "sexual predator" in the current usage, but a predator seeking sex.

He even got all her previous children killed, which is symbolically wolf-like. As is removing a limb to escape a trap.

 

 

What? No. He didn't go after the husband to have Jessie for himself.   Rick killed him because her husband was an abusive fuckstick who Deanna did nothing about before Rick got to town.  Correlation is not causation. 

[ACW]

I grant that Rick probably wouldn't have gone after the husband without cause (though, remember that he was actively preparing to take over the town at gunpoint, so I'm not positive).

However, if you think that Rick didn't act on that cause primarily to have Jessie to himself, then we'll have to disagree.

[Cobalt Stargazer]

Rick killed him because her husband was an abusive fuckstick who Deanna did nothing about before Rick got to town.  Correlation is not causation. 

 

Nothing to do with anything, but 'fuckstick' is an amazing word.

 

However, if you think that Rick didn't act on that cause primarily to have Jessie to himself, then we'll have to disagree.

 

But doesn't that just beg the question of WTF Rick even saw in Jessie, who as noted upthread he knew for like a minute before deciding he liked her?

[Dodginblue]

At the time, Rick really was in full-on predator mode (wolf-like, one might say); and when his interests turned to sex, his methodology was to fight (and eventually kill) another male and take their mate. Not a "sexual predator" in the current usage, but a predator seeking sex.

He even got all her previous children killed, which is symbolically wolf-like. As is removing a limb to escape a trap.

[catrox14]

I grant that Rick probably wouldn't have gone after the husband without cause (though, remember that he was actively preparing to take over the town at gunpoint, so I'm not positive).

However, if you think that Rick didn't act on that cause primarily to have Jessie to himself, then we'll have to disagree.

 

Yeah we definitely disagree on that point big time because Rick didn't have to kill Jessie's husband to get with Jessie if that is truly what he wanted. That is much more akin to Shane behavior.  But I'll take any further discussion to the all season thread.

 

Nothing to do with anything, but 'fuckstick' is an amazing word.

 

LOL it's one of my favorites. Like to me it's much more harsh than "dick" LOL

[TattleTeeny]

Also, am I just tired and grumpy, or is anyone else sick of the constant waffling on taking people in?

 

Right?! Just ask Aaron how he went about that kind of decision!

 

I love regional colloquialisms. I'm from the NE and went to school in Wisconsin and it took until my senior year to realize "the bubbler" was in fact a water fountain.....

 

I love them too--and all kinds of dialect stuff too. It's probably why, even as a copy editor, I tend to be very forgiving here on these forums about TV people (particularly reality-show folk) saying things "wrongly." (Example: Kyle Richards's "I'm born and raised in Beverly Hills." OK, the tense is odd to my ear, but she's far from the first person I've heard say something like that.)

Edited February 24, 2016 by TattleTeeny

[Dodginblue]

Nothing to do with anything, but 'fuckstick' is an amazing word.

 

 

But doesn't that just beg the question of WTF Rick even saw in Jessie, who as noted upthread he knew for like a minute before deciding he liked her?

She was attractive and pleasant to him and she had a certain vulnerable neediness that probably appealed to the cop-protector in him.  What will be interesting to see, if the show goes there, is how that need to be the protector will play out in his relationship with Michonne who I think is much more his equal than Jessie could ever be.   

 

I think Rick does best with people who don't actually need that much from him, who can stand on their own or meet him half-way.  Daryl as his running buddy in this episode worked perfectly because Daryl can take care of himself.  I was imagining how it would have gone if Eugene, for example, had come along so that he could help find the sorghum or something.   

[Rosiejuliemom]

I grant that Rick probably wouldn't have gone after the husband without cause (though, remember that he was actively preparing to take over the town at gunpoint, so I'm not positive).

However, if you think that Rick didn't act on that cause primarily to have Jessie to himself, then we'll have to disagree.

 

Rick pulled the trigger on Pete, but Deanna gave the order after porchdick killed Reg. Maybe Jessie was an underlying cause, but not the only one.

 

   I think Rick does best with people who don't actually need that much from him, who can stand on their own or meet him half-way.  Daryl as his running buddy in this episode worked perfectly because Daryl can take care of himself.  I was imagining how it would have gone if Eugene, for example, had come along so that he could help find the sorghum or something.   

 

They should have brought Eugene along. Either his commentary alone would have been worth it, and/or they would have had a wheel man and not lost the truck.

[Dodginblue]

Rick pulled the trigger on Pete, but Deanna gave the order after porchdick killed Reg. Maybe Jessie was an underlying cause, but not the only one.

 

 

They should have brought Eugene along. Either his commentary alone would have been worth it, and/or they would have had a wheel man and not lost the truck.

I find Eugene a great character and wish we could see more of him.  Maybe it would get old after awhile if we did see more of him but I thought that scene at the gate with him advising Rick and Daryl in that sincere, serious way he has about the virtues of sorghum was a highlight of the episode for me.  And the way they just sat there looking at him, instant classic.

[TattleTeeny]

He's like the calmer, gentler, less nuts Dwight Schrute of TWD.

Edited February 24, 2016 by TattleTeeny

[apollonia666]

Michonne had a towel on her head in the morning like she'd washed her hair. But it looked filthy later on. I guess it's because it's dreads now instead of the sleek and pretty braids she started out with. I wish she'd chop that crap off. The actress is beautiful with her short hair.

Michonne has only ever had dreadlocks with possibly one or two braids but ALWAYS and forever long, thick, awesome dreadlocks. Compared to Daryl's or Rick's nasty heads, Michonne's hair has always looked clean.

THIS.  One can do an image search for Michonne and Andrea or Michonne and Woodbury to see lots of photos of her first full season on the show and it's always been locks.

 

And "that crap" has deep religious and cultural significance for many black people so can we not, please?

 

(Edited: I may have messed up the quoting thing above. Apologies if I did.)

Edited February 24, 2016 by apollonia666

[Dodginblue]

To me he's this nerdy bookworm version of McGuyver.  

 

I was glad to see him on the gate, that he's got a responsible role, he's doing his part.  Which he made that decision last episode, to not just be the guy who's cowering in the corner somewhere.   Here's hoping that doesn't get him killed.

 

As to watching certain characters run, Eugene's my personal favorite.  And he probably knows all about carbonated beverages and what they're commonly known as in various parts of the country.

[Nashville]

For me, South Georgia/Florida Panhandle. Many chain gas stations (Tom Thumb, 7-11 type) even have them inside to buy, often in warm pots that look like small cauldrons. The very best place to get them are from random pick-up trucks on the side of the road or produce stands (just like you would peaches).

Oh, I've had boiled peanuts before, and I like them muchly - just never tried them in beverage.

And you're right - the best boiled peanuts I ever got were from a good ol' boy on the side of the road just outside Florala. :)

Edited February 24, 2016 by Nashville

[kelslamu]

Truck goes under and I'm thinking how quickly I would be diving in if chocolate were involved.  Oh and ninja on the roof...hmmmm.  I know Rick sat there for a sec or two before starting the truck with the guy tied on the side of the road, but still.  I did like this episode even though it was mostly light-hearted.  Swerving the car to knock the guy into darrel was funny.    I did think jesus was in another house when they laid him down.  So, he managed to leave it undetected and get into Rick's bedroom?  Can you imagine two armed naked people jumping out of bed at you, though?    I didn't understand not taking the black car with them when they found the food.  

 

Off-note, Rick shut the door on the food truck, but darrell left his open.  I wonder how long in the apocalypse it would take for me to NOT shut a car door and not worry about it.

Oh and as someone else said, "Where is Maggie's baby bump?"   I guess I'm glad about the Richonne thing, but not a big deal to me either way.  What the breakups must be like in the AZ.  You stay on that side of town from now on!    Crazy people today would find a zombie and set it in someone's house. lol

Oh yeah, I'm from Ohio as well and it's POP,people. lol  I know. I know.

[kelslamu]

Why didn't they handcuff jesus at the house or something?  They didn't know him any better and it didn't make sense to not restrain him at all.  Whether he could get out of it or not, they still should have.  Then again, it goes with the rest of the mistakes throughout this episode.

Edited February 24, 2016 by kelslamu

[CarpeDiem54]

Why didn't they handcuff jesus at the house or something?  They didn't know him any better and it didn't make sense to not restrain him at all.  Whether he could get out of it or not, they still should have.  Then again, it goes with the rest of the mistakes throughout this episode.

They had him tied up and Daryl was left guarding him. That's why it's so ludicrous.

[Dr.Jacoby]

Yeah, but to be fair to Daryl, he tried to help those jerks in the woods recently, and they stole his motorcycle AND HIS CROSSBOW. So I can see why he's like, you know, RIck was right. Screw finding more people. HIS CROSSBOW!

True, true- I'd just wish they'd have developed a policy by now so we don't retread the very same debate every time they meet someone new and the writers could get get their teeth (heh) into some new moral issues instead of this kind of Randall 2.0 situation. Though if I were Rick, having been through Terminus and the wolves recently if I saw someone who looked like a hipster AND kept his forehead covered I'd be 'fuck, no!'-ing my way out if there back to my children

[kj4ever]

On alternating days they are going to have to put a naked woman, a naked man, a bottle of moonshine, some gears for a motorcycle, or Judith in a cute little frilly suit and her solo cups and find out which one gets him to stay put in the bathtub long enough to clean him off.  Toddlers love having something to play with in the tub.

When I saw Judith with the solo cup I couldn't help but wonder why they can't find that poor little girl some different toys!

[Pixiebomb]

I am fixated on that truck of goodies. If they were willing to walk into a walker filled swampy food pantry for a few measly canned goods why aren't they getting that truck out. Get Abraham to grab some of that farm equipment and get on it. Or maybe Jesus can magically levitate it like Yoda on Dagobah.

[GodsBeloved]

I grant that Rick probably wouldn't have gone after the husband without cause (though, remember that he was actively preparing to take over the town at gunpoint, so I'm not positive).

However, if you think that Rick didn't act on that cause primarily to have Jessie to himself, then we'll have to disagree.

Didn't Rick in so many words say he would kill Jessie's husband and he would only do something like that for her? It was bad enough  he was planning to take over the town and when he said that to Jessie I was so disguested with him.

 

OT

 

I like Jesus

Edited February 24, 2016 by GodsBeloved

[GodsBeloved]

As to watching certain characters run, Eugene's my personal favorite. 

Yes!

[nachomama]

I'm so glad I'm on the correct side of the fence knowing it's "coke" and just "coke", there is no "pop" there is no "soda". "Soda" is Darrie's brother in "The Outsiders" and they hate the Soshe (?) so the Soshe's must call it "pop". 

 

Did Rick only kiss Jessie? Not that it necessarily matters, I don't think Michonne needs any clarification. I'm sure they'll figure out how their relationship will unfold. I know that Glenn or Maggie really, planned ahead with condoms but I don't think Rick's been running around with that in his pocket. I really pissed off a high school boyfriend once when I found a condom in his wallet and I joked that I'll buy him a new one when the expiration date passed, I think it was 7 years in the future. :D

[CarpeDiem54]

When I saw Judith with the solo cup I couldn't help but wonder why they can't find that poor little girl some different toys!

She probably loves them. Haven't you ever seen a little kid play with Christmas wrapping paper and boxes totally ignoring the toys?

[AngelaHunter]

(Rick) even got all her previous children killed, which is symbolically wolf-like.

 

Actually, wolves never kill cubs.They don't have that kind of social structure.

 

It's more apt to compare him to a lion. Males will kill ALL the cubs of a pride when they take over and drive off or kill the resident male.

[ACW]

Rick pulled the trigger on Pete, but Deanna gave the order after porchdick killed Reg. Maybe Jessie was an underlying cause, but not the only one.

 

  To clarify:  I think that, like most male animals, predator-Rick was okay with just driving off his rival.  He needed stronger cause to actually kill Pete.

 

Actually, wolves never kill cubs.They don't have that kind of social structure.

 

It's more apt to compare him to a lion. Males will kill ALL the cubs of a pride when they take over and drive off or kill the resident male.

 

  I sit corrected; thanks!

[Nashville]

When I saw Judith with the solo cup I couldn't help but wonder why they can't find that poor little girl some different toys!

Immediate mental picture: Judith toddling down the street pushing one of those rolling gumball-popcorn-machine-on-a-stick toys, and a walker horde drawn by the racket right behind her....

  

I am fixated on that truck of goodies. If they were willing to walk into a walker filled swampy food pantry for a few measly canned goods why aren't they getting that truck out. Get Abraham to grab some of that farm equipment and get on it. Or maybe Jesus can magically levitate it like Yoda on Dagobah.

 

Hell, there was a tractor sitting RIGHT THERE, and we know they have Magic Batteries™ and Magic Gas™ on this planet. Why didn't they just hook a chain from the tractor to the truck and pull it out?

 

I'm so glad I'm on the correct side of the fence knowing it's "coke" and just "coke", there is no "pop" there is no "soda". "Soda" is Darrie's brother in "The Outsiders" and they hate the Soshe (?) so the Soshe's must call it "pop". 

 

Coke is Coke. Soda is a kind of cracker.

[marceline]

When I saw Judith with the solo cup I couldn't help but wonder why they can't find that poor little girl some different toys!

 

When my nieces were toddlers, I'd get them toys and they'd play with the boxes or my key ring or my hair clip. I suspect they could find a whole intact Babies-R-Us and Judith would still be happily playing with her solo cups.